What is my alignment?

CE. He thought he was NG, but turns out he was wrong about that, and his new role fit him like a glove.

>Chaotic
>Not Neutral

It really is about his ego in the end. He was never smart enough business or criminally to be the big cheese, but he didn't wander around killing people for the power trip of it, he did it because they stood in his way and it was the path of least resistance to kill them.

>buhbeje
hurrrrrr

Knocking.

>hurrrrrr
cringe

>Would have been fine in any country with public healthcare/10
Did you watch the show? The cost of his care wasn't the primary concern. Walter wanted to leave his family with enough money to get by after he was gone and couldn't provide for them. I hate this meme.

>Expecting someone who comments on Veeky Forums to actually know anything about what they are commenting on...

life insurance m8

Chaotic evil only looking out for himself and for keeping an annoying wife around.

Not even that great of a show btw.

>"Hello there friendly life insurance broker! I want you to give my family a lot of money if I die. Oh, you want me to pay into my policy? Well, turns out I'm going to be dead within a year or so, so I won't be able to pay!"
Not how it works

Can you point to a life insurance company that'll actually insure someone with a fucking terminal illness
be fucking reasonable

Either way, skyler was your typical soul sucking high maintenance harpy with a corrupted retard factory womb. No man would be sane or good after dealing with a marriage like that.

>retard factory womb
Not to split hairs but the kid's head is fine, it's his motor neurons that're defective

Lawful Evil. He was pretty good at improvised planning, although not in every case.

He would have died waiting for a gallium scan because the waiting lists for basic diagnostic procedures are years-long in any country with public healthcare.

>...

He really wasn't cut out at all to be the top of the pyramid. Superlab was the best time for him by far.
Unfortunately, Hank Schrader is just a really good cop. That entire sequence where Hank lays out his ridiculous evidence that makes no sense then shows the final piece that turns it from chaos into a clear pattern is gold.

That complete lack of ass in the right

More than any other board, honestly
Average age seems to be higher here, more parents, more well-read

Started TN (just wants himself and his family to survive) but turns NE (never quits while he's ahead even when he's rich and the cancer is in remission because what he really wants is to be respected and feared for a change after spending most of his live as a doormat.)

I had a thought the other day.
1) Walter let Skyler in on it on Saul's advice that he couldn't just keep a secret, he needed to tell somebody or he'd explode. A gun moll.
2) Saul is secretly a criminal. Who does he tell?
3) Kim Wexler is nowhere to be seen, but we don't see Saul's home life at all.
I'm betting that during BB, he's living with Kim, and when he gets shunted to the Oklahoma Cinnabon that's her cue p bail.

Agreed.

Chaotic Badass.

>just wants himself and his family to survive

He had rich friends he could ask for help at anytime, but he was never willing to swallow his pride.

>I did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it.
Chaotic Evil by the end of the series, probably started out True Neutral though.

I guess he's the one who stats

He certainly thinks so.

Bryan plays Walter like he thinks he's the most devious character in the party. It's a perfect counterpart to Giancarlo and Jonathan's characters, who really are the most devious.
Aaron's a little naive about the whole process, but dammit he's learning.

Watch The Wire, its a much better show about the drug trade

t. le Republican Memer

That doesn't make him evil

In fact, not seeking help from others do to purely personal reasons is a pretty neutral thing to do

Try a fucking leaf whose mother would've died if she hadn't gone to Burgerstan for healthcare.

>cringe
lol

CN
because Chaotic Neutral is the alignment of mental disorders
and he clearly had more than a few.

He should have already had term life insurance. Even if only for estate planning and tax purposes, let alone the actual risk of terminal illness. Most companies offer this cheap as part of the benefits package, but public educators in New Mexico get an incredible deal.

Once you sign up a term life policy, the premium is locked in for that year and all future renewals. They also can't cancel it just because it's likely that you'll soon benefit from it. Same as health insurance.

Walt went from neutral to neutral evil. His belief about his alignment was always self-delusion.

Gus Fring was lawful evil. Tuco Salamanca was chaotic evil. Saul Goodman was chaotic evil (having started in BCS as just chaotic). Hank was Lawful Good.

A more interesting question is Mike. I'd say he was Lawful. Not good or evil, and didn't follow written laws, but lawful within his own code.

Lawful Evil. Even before breaking bad, Walter was close to the line.
His big sin was pride though, and without that he likely would have been better off.

His other big problem was viewing a Chaotic Stupid burnout as an adoptive child. Without whom, he probably wouldn't have been able to get anywhere in the meth business, and at who's feet almost every downturn in the business lies.

He was, however, doing it all to fulfill the provider role proscribed by humanity. Even at the very end, when he tells his wife he wasn't, he is likely doing it to put her mind at ease that any of it was her fault.
His final few acts in the series were to:
A) Provide for his kids in a way that the Feds can't link back.
B) Ease his wife's mind about the events that happened to her family, and reveal the location of his brother-in-law's body so she can be better off and his BiL can get a decent burial.
C) Take out the people who betrayed him and killed his BiL, and when he finds out what happened to his Screw-Up Adoptive child, save that little fucker's life and set him free.
Jessie should have died.

You'll have to forgive them. The Leftists don't care about results, they care about perception.

If the healthcare is free, obviously everyone is getting it.
Doesn't matter if it turns healthcare into the worst vision of the DMV ever, it matters that we can say that healthcare is free.

Even though the reason American Healthcare is as expensive as it is, is government intervention in the market to increase prices.

>Most developed countries are healthier than America
>Most developed countries spend far less on healthcare per capita
>Most developed countries have a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality rates

Really makes you think

>Even though the reason American Healthcare is as expensive as it is, is government intervention in the market to increase prices.

It's cute that you think the prices going up is from anything but running Healthcare as a for-profit industry.

It's cute that you think that, considering that pure for-profit hospitals that only take cash are cheaper than those that take part in the insurance racket.

It's cute that you don't know what you're talking about, but think you do.

One of the big things was WW2, where the government decided that companies couldn't give their employees direct raises for the duration.
This led to the benefit packages everyone is currently still mourning the loss of.

However, these benefit packages put more of the spending in the hands of insurance companies. Who proceeded to gouge and nickle & dime providers, who had to start over-charging for things.

The GI bill also led to an increase in college prices as the government took over the handling of college loans. As the loan could no longer be defaulted on if it wasn't worth while.

This, coupled with the schools deciding that medicine needed to go from a 4-year technical degree to an 8-year general degree reduced the supply of doctors and specialist practitioners.

And the list goes well on from there.

t. someone who has no idea what they're talking about but read it once in some fake news

You all might want to look into the Liverpool Care Pathway.

Nigger, are you retarded? My dad was diagnosed with cancer and in full treatment literally within three hours. THREE FUCKING HOURS. He got surgery two days later and went own to therapy from there. From a basic blood test to surgery in two days. Don't you dare spout shit about proper public healthcare systems you fucking baboon.

neutral dead.

Neutral Evil. Providing for his family was really just an excuse, in one of the first few episodes he gets the opportunity to be financially solvent but rejects it out of ego and spite.
I'm from a country with public healthcare and I know you're full of shit. The issue was his egomania and desire for control. When given an opportunity to become financially solvent in the beginning episodes, he rejected it because that would involve accepting help from an old friend and even when he had multiple opportunities to get out, he would either stay because he loved cooking meth for the control it gave him.

>lol
XD

>criminal whose chosen crime is illegal addictive narcotics
>not chaotic evil

Fake news?
You mean like the guy whose mom turned out not to have died because of the travel ban after all?

user here to tell you you're making me want to kill myself.

Neutral Good into Chaotic Neutral into Chaotic Evil and finally into Neutral Evil. And then dead.

>What Americans actually believe.

>Mom get's diagnosed with cancer
>Treatment starts the next day

It's been six years now and it hasn't returned thank god.

>mfw I see people saying he did it to provide for his family/to cover expenses
One of the last things, if not the last thing, he says to Skyler is that he did not do it for the family, like he always said.
He says he did it because he felt alive cooking meth, being a criminal big shot and all that

Which was one of his last acts for his family.

It let her move on, and blame him for everything.

>talking about leaf land healthcare
>user wants us to read about britbong healthcare
No, I'm not going to do that.

It is the best example of what comes of nationalized healthcare once the resources start to get stretched.

Not saying he didn't care for his family, but ultimately the reason why he went as far as he did was his ego and the fact that he enjoyed it
He did care for his family though
>Trying his best to not get Hank killed, but still win
>Taking the full blame, 'berating' Skyler so that she got out of investigation
>Even going as far to free Jesse

In his own eyes he was Good or Neutral at least but if you think of his protectiveness towards immediate family as fueled by selfishness, then he would count as Evil.
Now when it comes to Lawful vs Chaotic this becomes more tricky. It's obvious he didn't follow actual laws, but did he have any rules code that he adhered to? At the beginning he did have 'em, but by the end he was going down a slippery slope at breakneck speed. I'll err on the side of caution and say he is neutral at that front.
So to combine those two axis, I'd say he was ether TN or NE.

Jesse did nothing wrong.

I think that in his head, he said it to make sure Skyler didn't have any hard feelings afterwards.
To him it was a selfless act but in reality it was him subconsciously admitting what he really felt towards the end.

OP, your alignment is True Faggot.

Also best example what happens when political party in power kept draining the resources out from the medical system forcing it to be stretched.

Which is why healthcare shouldn't be under the control of the government.

Seriously, do Americans REALLY believe this crap?

I lived in multiple countries. I'd rather deal with the american system anything day than the NHS or canadian system.

So you are saying that muricans cannot have free things because everyone at the top are greedy old fucks?

You're a stupid cunt, then. Die poor.

Given the fate of every Communist or Socialist Nation, it's pretty much a universal truth.

It goes fine for a while, but then things start going downhill, and eventually the nation is in ruins and more people are murdered each year than are killed in an active war zone.

For all of America's healthcare system's failings (and they are many), we are miles ahead at keeping cancer patients alive. Probably because it's pretty profitable, but cancer is one disease that our shitty healthcare system really works against. Maybe kidney disease too, but I'm not sure

>Given the fate of every Communist or Socialist Nation, it's pretty much a universal truth.
>When previous statement was apparently too mysterious to imply that shit was fucked because UK conservatives and their care for their own pockets over people.

Doesn't change the fact that money runs out, and people are only provided the bare minimum at the slowest possible rate.

If you think the "Liberals" not turning to faucet off until the reservoir is drained completely is better, well enjoy your imported millions to try and prop up the system that is quickly running out of money.

Canada, Italy, Spain, Norway, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden and Finland all have lower cancer mortality rates than the US.

Even Mexico has lower rates, but that is probably because people die younger there.

Australia, NZ Japan and Greece as well

Well, I was talking cancer survival rates. Don't know exactly why the mortality rates are not correlating.

The only reason why Americans are better at keeping cancer patients alive is because the USA hardly has any regulations on therapies, which means that American cancer patients can get experimental treatments like 5 years before people in Europe can get them.

Of course, that's offset by the fact that Europeans ingest far fewer carcinogen substances than Americans, thanks to strict regulations.

To put things in perspective, the FDA only began looking into carcinogens in some kind of popcorn butter used in the USA after a doctor noticed a connection between the higher cancer rates in the factory that made the popcorn and the higher cancer rates among people addicted to THAT SPECIFIC brand of popcorn.

user dear let me explain the actual problem because you seem to think that there are only 2 sides in this Zocchihedron of a coin.

Social security / health care systems = high taxes.
The biggest tax payers do not want to pay high taxes.
This leads to tax evasion and outsourcing to 3rd world to cut in costs causing uneployment and lost tax revenue.
The money from those companies will not flow back into the system causing dept and eventual emptiness for the coffers.

Big tax payers care only for short-term profit over returning the benefit back to the system that would in kind provide with higher education and other benefits.

They would keep making more money in long term since the competetive edge in the global competition would be the educated workers and who especially now matter a lot since we are moving more and more towards development based businesses and leaving producing to robots.

Unfortunately we face the good old greed.

This leads to political parties whose primary intrest is to lobby their own intrest as "benefits of the country" or "Greater good"
"Benefits" are privatization to gain the money back which they should have been paid in taxes to keep system rolling.
Not suprising to eventually find out that the political leaders have hands in the pockets of the companies that now privately own previously public systems.
Since the focus is on short-term profits to private individuals and organizations their only care is the bottom line of the profits now and not in 10 years.

We eventually will reach two very similar situations since globalization is the name of the game we wanted it or not.
In preferred situation corporations would compete with their competense and with their workforce that would eventually pay back to the system and providing steady growth for both country and the corporation.
In more likely situation corporations will compete who can exploit the systems for the biggest fastest profit.

cont.

Walter the Grey

cont.

Naturally social security and shit have their problems in your average people exploiting the systems and getting free money for doing nothing.
For example here if you have been working in a job for a while and ending up unempoyed you would get higher welfare tied to your previous pay.
This has lead to a money draining whirlpool where it is for them more profitable to not to work costing more money to the system and it is a problem.

The grand scale problem is that from that money quite a lot will end up in large private businesses which as I stated in block 1 of this "why the fuck am I politics now" text and that money will not go back to the system that would at least in relatively neutral manner support itself if 95% what country pays you would end up back to the coffers.

The point is there are not easy "lol libtards" answers to this situation but is more driven by economics and the greed to the major players of the system.