Show and Tell is fine. Yes, It's a busted combo piece, but its not overly powerful against the meta as a whole. For instance Grixis Delver and D&T shit all over Sneak and Show. It's really no different than any other spell based combo deck in legacy. It's also not overly ubiquitous, Sneak and Show has ~5% meta game share and Omnitell has ~0.5% online, those seem like fine healthy numbers to me user.
Ethan Stewart
I guess I dislike SnT strats because of how little "play" there is in their strats, it's just assemble cards and pray your opponent doesn't flip a hate card. That strat isn't particulaly busted, just numbingly linear, to me that is.
Isaiah Turner
There is a card that almost every deck runs in 4 copies, it's Wasteland. WASTALANDU DING DONG BANNU
Gabriel Howard
Wasteland keeps some decks in check, though.
Christian Sanchez
Brainstorm and force of will are far more common 4 ofs than wasteland
Ethan Lewis
plz wizards no
just leave legacy alone
go back to focusing on "cultivating" modern with bans
Nicholas Allen
Wasteland is the 5h most common card, brainstorm, ponder, FoW, and polluted delta are all more played than it.
Ethan Reyes
Ok so OP is dumb and SnT has no reason to be banned, but what is everyone playing?
UW Stoneblade here
Robert Morris
I've been all over the place brewing since the SDT ban. I've been playing/testing: Big Red, TES, and U/W Landstill. Been pretty impressed with the Landstill list, it feels pretty good against most the meta with the exception of Burn and ANT.
Anthony Wright
Whats the landstill list?
James Hall
My very own shitty goblin welder brew. How shitty? I play blue without FoW or brainstrom.
Mason Walker
I've been testing this list, some of the numbers are still a little rough, I'm not sure on the Elspeth, Path to Exile, or Misdirection (It's conditionally either awesome or useless).
MB: 1x Batterskull 2x Engineered Explosives 1x Umezawa's Jitte 2x Snapcaster Mage 3x Stoneforge Mystic 1x True-Name Nemesis 4x Standstill 4x Brainstorm 2x Counterspell 1x Flusterstorm 4x Force of Will 1x Misdirection 1x Path to Exile 1x Spell Pierce 1x Spell Snare 4x Swords to Plowshares 1x Faerie Conclave 4x Flooded Strand 3x Island 1x Karakas 3x Plains 3x Polluted Delta 2x Tundra 1x Underground Sea 4x Wasteland 1x Elspeth, Knight Errant 2x Jace, The Mind Sculptor 1x Council's Judgement 1x Supreme Verdict SB: 1x Containment Priest 3x Dread of Night 4x Leyline of Sanctity 1x Moat 1x Rest in Peace 2x Disenchant 1x Flusterstorm 2x Surgical Extraction
The SB is pretty weird too, It's build for my LGS' screwed up meta, lots of D&T, Burn, and Storm
Thomas Hernandez
Playing UBr Tezzeret Control, feels good to have so many powerful bombs and niche answers. Sometimes the deck just comes together and I get to play Chalice on turn 1 into Dack Crucible and get a Wasteland Engine online or start beating with 5/5 artifacts on turn 2 after slamming a Tezz. Welder is crazy sweet, I tried to find room in a Tezz build for some, but dropped it after experiencing true jank.
Joshua Scott
What does everyone think are the odds flusterstorm will be in iconic masters?
Grayson Bennett
Hope it is, It's absurd they cost ~$80 when wizards has had several chances to print them and bring down their price. I figured it would have been a lock for printing in Eternal Masters.
Jose Watson
So ban polluted delta?
Michael Scott
The formats just so stale recently. It feels dull. It felt dull with Miracles around yes but now it feels even more stale. I just want them to unban Mind Twist and ban Deathrite Shaman.
Charles Diaz
Still love maverick after all these years, has been my favorite deck forever and I plan on playing it forever.
I built dnt too though since that deck is number 2.
Any excuse to cast my waifu.
Blake Evans
>Lands Derp. Should be -1x delta, -1x wasteland, -1x plains, +3x Mishra's Factory
Cooper Gray
Playing TES to some success, currently in the lead of our local league. Last weekly I did the mistake of greedily not going for 8 Goblins T1, aiming for AdN T2... Only match I lost. Also got tilted to shit from a player new to our meta.
Apparently DNT is my most frequent matchup, sucks to be them I guess. Also my win% in g2 have now dropped to ~49.7%, compared to the over 60% in g1 & g3...
Eww. I don't want my waifus to be women of strong character, hindering others in their way. Olivia or go home.
Jack Perry
Everyone knows the best waifus are made of Etherium, no horse cock included.
Owen Gonzalez
Been a bit lost after the top ban. Still trying DDFT, including some off-the-wall lists but haven't been thrilled with any. Played Burning ANT which performed well but wasn't super fun. Been brewing some trash piles including an OmniTell/DDay hybrid.
Owen Price
Same my dude, you running b2b main?
Leo Morales
Any BG depths players here? Has anyone tried summer bloom in the deck? Or is manabond just way better
Brandon Garcia
the jankest brew of all
Elijah Lopez
this picture hurts me
Joseph Richardson
Is Maverick just bant creatures? I don't really see another gameplan.
Grayson Nguyen
Pretty much. Hatebears, value creatures, Green Sun's Zenith, and KoTR.
Nathan Rogers
yeah, it's junk, naya, or bant goodstuff with hatebear and toolbox themes.
Good creatures with a disruptive gameplan.
Wasteland+KotR, Wasteland+Life from the loam, and generally strong creatures like gaddock Teeg and Thalia and Deathrite shaman go a long way.
Then you have KotR, Green Sun's, Stoneforge Mystic, and enlightened/whatever tutor to get what you need.
It's a classic deck in the format, but isn't super popular now or the past few years since it's not fancy. You can cast good creatures in any format.
But I love it since a deck that just wants to cast g/w creature spells is an underdog, and I'll always play decks that have this wonderful woman.
Alexander Clark
Dega, reanimator, janky as fuck, I like it.
Elijah Johnson
Why the fuck is show and tell so expensive on mtgo
Hudson Fisher
>plays Storm >doesnt like women >is gay No surprises here
Levi Cruz
pretty simple imo.
popular, powerful, high play rate, and high win rate deck gets banned.
people who played that deck move on to another popular, powerful, high play rate, and high win rate deck.
Prices reflect surges in people buying into those cards.
Aaron Reed
Honestly it was more of a rhetorical, whiny sort of question but I'm sure you're right. Also limited online print run.
Blake Flores
Dredge boiii
patrician taste though
Jack Ramirez
I'm playing esper stoneblade atm and I feel like it durdles too much. I also don't fight against combo very often
should I go Esper Deathblade or do I go full WUBG
Bentley James
What's your list look like? Maybe we can help cut some durdle for gas.
Noah Lopez
Fuck wizards and their shifty format management. Dig through time is a fine card.
Gabriel Cruz
>Also limited online print run. This really boggles my mind. I hear daze used to be pretty expensive, as well as Ports.
Isaac Fisher
They still are. Some older commons/uncommons that actually see play are ridiculously expensive just because nobody opened any online packs of that set. Which really doesn't make sense to me. Wizards has an online card game, why would they stop me from buying a nemesis or masques pack? It's just them being greedy jews trying to impose the same restrictions they impose on paper magic, and its horrible for mtgo.
I was playing around with this at work the other day and it felt cute.
Gavin Johnson
Playing miracles sans top. Haven't tested it yet but I think it's solidly tier 2
Jackson Cox
are you running that new nissa?
Nicholas Parker
I think you've got some questionable choices in there but I had been thinking about cutting some fatties from my list and just going all-in on Omni for the SnT plan. I also toyed around with the idea of white, because you could play a couple Terminus and use LDV to set it up. In an SCG Worcester side event I played against someone playing an Esper SnT list like that and it seemd like it worked pretty well
Connor Gonzalez
How the fuck thes this shit even works?
Julian Robinson
You use doomsday to win with labman. You can eaither do it au naturale if you have the mana (lots of mana) or you can SnT in Omniscience and make all your spells free which makes it easy. But I think that list has a lot of weird one-ofs that you don't really need, and maybe a couple cards conspicuously missing.
Adam Nelson
No I'm on an esper build,if it fails I'll try green out or just go straight U/W