Cyberpunk thread, the non-magical Shadowrun one

Cyberpunk thread, the non-magical Shadowrun one.

What's happening in your Cyberpunk 2020 campaign?

Ever tried playing

>Interface Zero
>Wyred
>Underground
>Remember Tomorrow
>The Veil
>Vurt
>SLA Industries
>Zaibatsu

Does eclipse phase count or is that too future?

I'd consider it too future since you're flying around in spaceships and habitats in the solar system. Cyberpunk generally takes place on Earth.

So, cars in cyberpunk settings, how do you prefer them? Wheels or hover? Autonomous or regular driving? Regular consumer cars can only drive on the corp sponsored roads? No roads at all because the megacities are too densely packed so regular people don't bother?

Villa Straylight.

ie Just don't overdo it and go full space opera. Unless that's what the whole group wants/enjoys.

>Villa Straylight.
A short excursion to Earth orbit. Not the same thing as planet hopping across the solar system, although I know that it's not a hard rule. One of my favorite proto-cyberpunk novels is The Stars My Destination (first instance of wired reflexes, megacorporations ruling the worlds), which has a lot of solar system action. So there are exceptions, but like you said it shouldn't be space opera and space shouldn't be the focus.

Well, it could be the focus in the same way hacking or transhumanism can be the focus in cyberpunk. It's just a way to highlight the whole High Tech-Low Life disparity in the setting.

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Here's The Veil if anyone wants it. It has some neat rule ideas but I find games without settings to be deeply unsatisfying. The Sprawl had the same problem.

EP is what I refer to as "post cyberpunk" as it doesn't fit many of the usual tropes (prosthetics, pollution, crushing poverty, a shadow government that runs the world through a corpocracy).

>X-Card
lol no

im trying to get into this game, but i have no place no whom to play it, what can i do?

Wheels and manual for the poor, hover auto flight for the rich

Cyberpunk waifu

use Roll20

Hoo baby... I'll be in my bunk.

Are there any good cyberpunk communities anymore? 8ch's /cyber/ is pretty much dead, and I heard the dedicated chans are too. I'm working on a cyberpunk-ish novel and getting back into Nick Land's stuff, so the general community being dead is kind of depressing.

I think this is just a lull. There are some things coming up that I think will give cyberpunk as a genre and the Cyberpunk game line in particular a boost in popularity.

Outside of Urbit slowly starting to roll out, I'm not really sure what you could be thinking of.

maybe cyberpunk 2077
hopefully...

Views From The Edge is pretty much the only alive forum out there, and it's also pretty slow. But there are a lot of old-timers there at least...

You'd have thought the new movie would have brought new blood, but I haven't seen it.

Given how the movie was pretty much a flop like I predicted, the lack of new blood makes perfect sense to me.

>Not a girl with armblades and cyberpsychosis
Why even bother?

I'm sold to Cyberpunk 2020 and absolutely don't feel the need to DM an other cyberpunk game.

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My party is literal murderhobos at the moment. Granted, they're killing other murderhobos under a misguided desire to make things better, but it's still the combat zone.

Depends how closely the setting is positioned to IRL and now - in the Android setting, for example, flying cars work because it's something like the 2170s or 80s at a minimum, but in settings more closely linked to here and now, where there's at least a couple of brands you'd recognise (there's a word for when you namedrop brands in literature to create quick and easy verisimilitude, but I forget what it's called) I'd say go for wheels

Autonomous for richer, cleaner stable places with nice weather - anywhere where there's a shit-ton of roadworks, lots of crime or not much money will be much worse places to operate autonomous cars.

Maybe going to play Sprawl except it'll be used for Overwatch

I really like the system. The class playsheets got pretty good flavor (as usual).

I'm curious of people's experience using a class system in a modern/sci-fi setting - do you prefer the solidity it gives archetypes?

Existing or new characters? How are you dealing with some of the more esoteric abilities?

Well, the classes are really just the basic stuff; you can more or less go from there any direction you want. The Sprawl lets you "multiclass" rather freely, but I made the houserule that they can do that at creation to make a bit more complex characters.

Original characters. Basically everything is 'ware, and the characters aren't as high powered as the main cast, so it's okay. Also, Driver works great for Mechs and power armor.

Bumping with a good book

>I'd consider it too future since you're flying around in spaceships and habitats in the solar system.
Even Neuromancer goes into space.

Personally I don't like classes but I'm ok with using them as a base that can be customized.

How does your DM describe the combat zone?

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In 2020, we elected to mess with the drug system:
We had a self proclaimed "pharmaceutical artist".
Artist makes a happy pill called Joy.
Daycrew at the Midnight Snhack, eating fried starch & soyrritos.
Artist hires an ATT 10 hooker to promote her new drug.
ATT 10 Hooker is actually an undercover vice cop.
We ally with a Joy addicted Fixer, who quickly dropped 2k in Joy.
Vice Cop accidentally makes a sexy advertisement while eating fried starch.
The mob, running the midnight snhack blackmails our boxer to fight at the Rising Sun Blood Sporting Arena.
Vice Cop realizes Joy isn't illegal yet.
Fixer selling drugs with borged war-vet to anti-borgers, stand off, anti-borgs buy the drugs anyway & fixer gets a free cyber arm they were using as a club, it still works!
Attach new cyber arm to our war-vet, because we could.
Artist gets forced to make a "side-effect free" synth-coke for Petrochem Exects, enough to "last the whole night", they bring in 3 solos & a full conversion into her shitty Studio apartment.
Not having a choice, she does it, but misunderstood the "enough to last the whole night" part.
Nova Coke is born.
Nova Coke lasts 2-11 hours per dose.
Vice cop attends this little coke party, undercover, the Butler samples the Nova Coke.
Says "that's not any coke I've ever had".
Butler immediately jumps out the window.
Vice Cop drags the butler back in, butler wants to fly really baddly.
This doesn't bode ill or anything.
Later that night vice cop finds out the artist she's "working for" is being targeted by Petrochem for retaliation.
She hops onto a pedicab operated by the happiest Bantu nomad and friend of the artist.
They take turns peddling to the apartment.
Barely warn the artist about the attack as a punknaught crashes through her window.
ESCAPE!
Money, lab equipment and fried starch goes everywhere.
Punknaught opens fire with mounted guns, the apartment complex is Swiss cheesed.

I've been considering getting The Sprawl, but I've also read bad feedback about the PbtA system, and that it's a bit adaptated in each game that uses it.
How is it in the Sprawl?

Anyway, since it's been a day and the thread is still around, plus since Veeky Forums lets you upload .pdfs, would anyone want to see the first three chapters of the novel I'm working on? It's about a disaffected laid-off metalworker in an Chinese-built African megalopolis becoming a solipsistic vigilante serial killer.

Yes, it uses PbtA.

If you don't like PbtA systems, it's probably not going to be your favorite.

It does a few things I dislike I changed for myself, but aside from that It's a pretty OK game. Give it a read.

The Shaper/Machinist universe is considered classic cyberpunk and that shit's all over the solar system, including some parts that get pretty close to space opera with aliens and visits to other star systems.

Shaper novels start cyberpunk but become space opera later on.

Sure. Post it, man.

K, been a while since I uploaded it, but I've gotten pretty good feedback. I just finished Chapter 23 out of 33 (I spent all last year outlining the story to avoid writers block) and I figure I'll spend the fall and winter editing it, drafting notes for a sequel, and shopping around for agents/publishers.

Thanks! Will read it this weekend.

Just watched Johny Mnemonic.
Hell, I was expecting a movie with some cyberpunks elements. Not a movie with ALL cyberpunk elements and more.

What a ride.

great, now I gotta keep the thread alive to get that review...

Anyone willing to explain in which order I should watch Ghost in the SHell anime? Or it is better to read the manga?

anyone play SLA Industries? I own all the books but cant find anyone interested in it.

It doesn't make any real difference far as I think. I started with Standalone Complex, then the movie, then finally read the manga.

Manga, anime and movies are each sort of their own thing, with the latter two rehashing and referencing parts of the manga while doing new stuff. They're all good.

Except the second volume of the manga. I think it was right aroudn the time Shirow was deciding he liked drawing porn more and it really shows.

Am I meant to dislike the guy after the first chapter? He seems like an ass.

Also I found one error already (his where it should be this)

I'm definitely finding the style very dull and a bit plodding - "I did X. I feel Y. I did X" - it's low on description, but you say too many inconsequential things for it to be minimalist.
Is the focus on the mundane because he is (or was) a nutcase and thus actively thinks about all those things?

The way he judges a guy while robbing him is amusing though. At least before the last bit

He's definitely an unsavory individual, I'd kind of consider him the "anti-Rorschach" in that he's driven more by his own whims and desires than any deeply entrenched principles. It leads to the same thing in the end- psychopathic vigilantism, but he takes a much different moral route.

And yes, he is mentally imbalanced to some degree, but not in any easy way for me to pin down. If I'd have to pick one specific disorder, I'd just say he's autistic to some degree.

Yeah, he definitely comes off as a sperg.
I still think there's too much extraneous detail that says nothing though

Have you read When Gravity Fails? - the protagonist is nothing like your guy, but it's an excellent story

No, but I've heard it mentioned before. Why'd you ask?