Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>might get Ork vs Tyranid octarius-esque tourney fun
8th is looking great

>average of 5 mortal wounds on an infantry blob
Slowpoke here, but I just noticed how good most bombers are.

Nth for cover rules are dumb now.
>No cover saves for being obscured outside optional terrain rules.
>Infantry NEVER gets cover for being obscured, only thing close are the barricade rules

Does anyone have page 125 of Imperial Index II? All the leaks I've seen don't have it.

Well done, brother!

O-)-c

someone give me proof orks arent bad

Give me the fucking proof

>previous taufag
>trying to get into nids probably cause he heard they might be good in 8th
>this is the new face of tyranids,
>a netlisting WAACfag who "doesnt want to get swept" convert from fucking tau
old nidfags weep

Wait, sitting in ruins doesn't add anything?

ENUFF MESSIN' ABOUT, GIV IT TO ME STRAIGHT

AZ N EVIL SUNZ PLAYA

WOT FIELDS DAKKAJETZ, BIKERS, STORMBOYZ, BUGGIES, WAGONS AND HEROZ ON WARBIKEZ

OUTTA 1-10 JUST 'OW KRUMPED AM I GONNA GET?

>optional terrain rules
Stop with this fucking meme, no one is going to opt out of using terrain rules if they're playing Matched Play.

Points values are "optional" to if you want to be technical.

SW look pretty good in 8th, jump pack changes helped get a turn one charge with skyclaws. TWC are still scary too. Only thing thats really changed is CotW and it got a little nerfed.

Does anyone have the "BINARIC REEEEEE" pic of Cawl? seem to have lost mine

You'z gonna be foin.

>20 hormagants with devours
>20 hormagants with fleshborers
I want to smack this faggot.

>20 gargoyles

Infantry gets cover just by standing in most terrain. They dont have to worry about being obscured or not. Vehicles and monsters have to actually be 50% covered.

>DAKKAJETZ
Unknown, but I hear the bommerz are really good
>BIKERS
Got better
>STORMBOYZ
Got way better
>BUGGIES
Better I believe
>WAGONS
Not bad but expensive now
>HEROZ ON WARBIKEZ
Still good

Focus on boyz over toyz and you'll do a lot better this edition

Raiders get Dizzy Cannons or Lances now?

So how are Chaos vehicles now like their Predator?

Also, can Havocs put enough damage on a walker or monstrous creature to incapacitate it in a single volley?

For that matter, how much better is the Defiler now?

This is 100% of the core cover rules.

Even if everyone agrees to use them, infantry still only receive cover by being inside it. Not by being obscured in any form.

I got you fellow Magos.

I'm working on a bunch of math for orks, I'll post it within the next few days, keep an eye on these threads.
In the mean time, go back and read all the detailed posts about how much better they are from the last thread.

Yes.

>hormaganys with devours

There is so much wrong with that I weep

Dakkajetz are also pretty good, but nothing to write to gork about.

The power scourge got a nice buff.

The one between Jokaero and Custodian Guard? I haven't seen it either.

>horma-gants with guns
>20 gargoyles

I think the Defiler is generally improved. while it's more expensive, it's also a lot more durable thanks to the vehicle changes, and having the Battle Cannon not be Ordnance makes all of its other equipment more valuable to have.

I'm upset you can't give it double-havoc launchers anymore, but it is nice to have the default gun not make the rest of the loadout pointless

So when does Guardsman Marbo get rules?

NOICE

Y'know Dakkajetz impress me the most, i like the sound of 18 shots hitting on 4's with s5 and -1 AP, they don't cost that much and will help thin down the hoards of bodies people will put in front of their characters

>Getting back in with 8th.
>Going to do a 'seige' marine chapter.

Time to use whirlwinds.

Codex!

>Dakkajets & Stormboyz
Pic related

IG artillery would have fun at least.

That's intentional.

Weapons like Bolters, Shuriken Catapults and Pulse Rifles that used to completely blow away 5+ saves no longer do, so now cover isn't as necessary for light armoured troops. Likewise, AP 3 weapons that used to melt MEQs are now AP -2, so they still get 5+ saves against those as well.

On the other hand, MEQ in cover are now at a 2+ save, so it would be ridiculous if they got that anytime their foot was partially obscured by the corner of a building.

If you want to take cover now, you can very easily, just get inside the terrain feature. There's no more difficult terrain slowing you down.

shadow war

How much use will it be if the Defiler charges something like a Knight or a Naut?

Huh. Weird. I guess I'll have actual cover now despite most of my group's terrain being tupperware.

Thankz boi.

I reckon Zagstruk will be a lot more useful now, making Stormboyz fearless and being pretty strong in a fight too. finally get to use his model again.

even though he's a Goff. Ah well Klan rules ain't real yet

It's more expensive and has less options, can't load it with dccws for attacks anymore. Because of the changes to shooting it is now much better as a gun plataform

Dakkajetz are still pretty solid, but they have to stick around on the tabletop for a few turns to make their points back reliably
Blitza Bommers, on the other hand, now instantly delete a squad on the first turn
Bikers a lil more expensive, but significantly tougher and shootier than before
Stormboyz are actually priced perfectly for once, they're a great choice if you like your boyz to be reliable
Buggies have become better, too, thanks to reliable outflanking, better shooting, tougher profiles, and the ability to charge and do okay in melee (at least against typically squishy backfield units)
Wagons are a little pricy now, but have a boatload of wounds. Keep them cheap and they'll still serve you well.
Heroes on warbikes, especially a big mek w/ kff, will make a fine escort for your vehicles
I'd say you'll do fine

Not very, considering it's got 3 attacks only.

Curses. I really want to know if there's any keywords for Custodes that let them Deep Strike. Its loss is a pretty huge blow considering our transports are well over 300 points.

In 7th we rolled a single die to scatter and even our Contemptors could DS. Now our mobility is pretty crippled if we can't do so.

>Love all the chaos gods equally
>Hate chaos undivided though
>Can't decide which army to build in 8e

Send help

Because Cawl was around when the Emperor was alive, was programmed and or given the knowledge and told to keep it? We know Ad Mech can do a form of Necron immortality, where if they die their conscious is sent to another body. He revived Girlyman only because the Eldar made a deal with the Emperor 10,000 years ago to do it. As for new Dreads; simple. Hereteks who upgraded Dreads in their spare time and were killed for it had their shit stored and Cawl had access to it?

I hope its easy to remove the purity seals/other stuff from the Primaris models. I want the new big boys to look fresh and clean.

One of each! You don't want to miss all the fun playing only one army, do you?

t. GW sales rep

Is there nowhere to get White Dwarf on this thread anymore? The link where it used to be has been dead for a few weeks now.

Power fist is worse than a thunder hammer for the same points for non characters is there really any reason not to tool up for a thunder hammer unless you can't take it? For some reason a Stern guard veteran sarge can't take one.

Evicerator is also on the same tier

go godless

So how did Guilliman make it through the Cicatrix to Baal, and back? Isn't the northern half of the galaxy cut off? How does the Cicatrix interact with the Tyranids' shadow in the warp?

I really don't get the Baal story works.

why do you hate undivided user?

not even the writes does, user. just accept it

The only answer is one army of each

>Zagstruk
Yeah, but in your list you have to have them be Goffs. Luckily when it comes to Klans it's not WYSIWYG, so your sunz can be painted however as long as on your list they're given the Goff keyword.

*writer
Hello, fellow GW sales rep! Have you converted many people to the hobby with this new edition?

What the fuck did this guy not even read the difference between units? Fucking god dammit i aint even an old nid fag i started last year and this still pisses me off.

Lads; are special characters being killed off and replaced with Primaris Special Characters or are they being 'upgraded' to Primaris Marines; which I heard is an ability now?

>Freebooters aren't a thing

Hard to put in words honestly

I prefer a specialized army rather than a balanced one? If you know what I mean.

>Iron Hands don't get a single mention in the Imperium books
>Their home world is gone from the map
squatted

I hope that old sculpts like Dante and He'Stan get updates to be truescale when they in lore get "Primarisified" so they don't look like manlets next to chadmarines.

based slanny

I hope Guilliman can make it back to Ultramar in time.

I think it's said Nurgle has sent three of his chosen commanders to lay siege to that realm.

Of those three, I wonder does that mean it's Typhus, Mortarian and that Great Unclean One character whose name escapes me right now.

>Just found out recaster is making his own Kasrkin using plastic Scions and FW Cadian Hostile Environment Upgrade Kits.
Holy shit it's the answer to my prayers, thank you based Chinaman.

Dante getting killed off and reborn would make more sense. Ala the prophecy. I dunno what's fucking going on with this edition. So it IS a thing that Space Marines can be turned into Primaris Marines via SCIENCE?

I heard someone say their name is Ka'gash but the only one I know is Ku'gath

>cannot field a full custodes detachment
>custodes cannot deep strike anymore
>custodes cannot parry anymore
>custodes are not fearless anymore
why even live

I have it and it's all mine!!!!
can't post it from work, it doesn't have any rules about deep striking.

What do Dozer Blades do in 8e?

Oh fuck they've made Custodians worse than Primaris Marines, have they? Fucking hell GW.

>we lost liber heresius, book of st. lucius, blessed weapon (blade of admonition), mantle of ophelia, the armor etc.
GIVE ME MY FUCKING SARISSAS

Does the Jump Pack keyword grant the ability to come in from Reserves, like what the Jump Pack Assault Marines says?
Or are Jump Packs just better on Marines?
Or do we just not know?

Predator has a pretty good autocannon (48 heavy 2d3 S7 AP-1 3D), costs 151 barebones. Tri-las is good but expensive.

Depends entirely on your rolling and the MC/walker in question. A quad-lascannon squad might be able to pull it off.

Defiler is...eh. More durable but less flexible and a lot more expensive.

There are two routes through it on the galaxy map. The "Temporary Rift Corridor" in the southeast and the "Nachmund Gauntlet" in the northwest.

maybe boost the melee attack?

Anons I am confused. Can I bring these plague dudes from the box set with my army?

Specifically the pox walkers, blight drone, and the three characters.

Or do I have to be playing ?

What do reinforced rams do?

Nurgle is going to have the most support in the next few months

jump/jet pack do exactly 0 stuff for now. maybe the codex will give us more info

Give me tier lists so I can be champion WAAC

>Lord of Skulls/Khorne things getting more attacks when wounded
>about to die
>24 Str 5 attacks
>firing gore cannon into combat

Yeah, but IIRC it's super expensive and is going to be reserved for making existing characters better.

Nope.
Maybe when they get a dex, but currently it doesn't do anything.

fuck off /pol/

Where were you when 40k stopped being a setting about your dudes ?

500 Conscripts

I'm sad destroyer blades aren't a thing.

How are Dark Angels, my fellas? I've heard Ravenwing took the boot, but what about the rest?
Are they fun to play and not a punching bag?