The Godhand

>By her post-game "reward" stats she's an infernal demigoddess with her own planar realm, but enslaved to the far weaker yet infinitely more experienced devil she sold her soul to, but they'd likely be the one giving her orders anyway.

so she's one of them?

>no le olam
>all the other words are out of order
weak

God or demon, what am I?
Its time for to choose my path!
The power of my GOD HAND,
No evildoer will get past.

Hand to hand or fist to fist,
Kicking nuts or twist your wrist.
God power keeps my pimp hand strong
So trust me or you wont last very long!

Dragon Kick your ass into the Milky Way! (Milky Way!)
Don’t act like you don’t like the Ballbuster! (Ballbuster!)

My arm, my arm, my arm, my arm, my arm, my arm, I’ll summon up the power of the GOD HAND!!!

Godhand?! Ha! They're just posers.

HEY! YOU! What the hell are you doing? That's my god damn line!

There's no way to be sure, since we haven't seen the extent of their abilities. We can only assume based on what little they've decided to show. Not once have we ever seen an Angel of the Godhand truly injured or strained. Even when Slan was impaled, it felt as though she'd been simply shoved away rather than wounded.

All right. Molecule Man. I can't be sure, but considering Galactus has gone on record saying that Owen Reece can destroy him with a thought I'm inclined to go with a yes.

Weavers of fate, you say?

Let's introduce a little chaos to the system!

I honestly have no idea how their relative power levels compare, but it'd probably be fun to find out!

Would Scarlet Witch be able to? I forget if her power was probability manipulation or reality warping.

Proteus could fight them at their own game, most likely.

>I'm still at the point where I have no fucking clue what the godhand is (other than that they fulfill the role of gods and demons simultaneously)
That's really as much as anyone really knows, but feel free to join the ever widening chorus of those on Veeky Forums that take that vague description and act like they know everything. Shit, half the people that'll reply to this thread rolling their eyes have never even read one chapter of Berserk and probably never will.

>I'll use a nuke to blow up this breadcrumb, just to be sure!

Can one who is fateless oppose those who are fate itself? Can a man who has unmade his own mortality unmake the fate of the world?

Ah good. I wanted another dlc.

I think this is one of the most direct descriptions of the five that we've gotten, straight from Plot Exposition Skeleton himself.

Might be. Do the Godhand grant spells to worshippers?

If that is one of the great desires of the darkness in their soul, and they make a sacrifice- yes. Emperor Ganishka(a major antagonist) is a lightning wizard who can enter ball lightning form and zap people because of a deal he made with them.

No, they're mostly hyperbole and fanwank. They make glorified mutants. They do have certain dimensional and destiny manipulation abilities, soul manipulation and maybe a hint of reality warping, but everything is fairly low tier when compared to other stuff that deals with that. The reason for their hype is that they're from a low tier verse (basically medieval times with a hint of low-tier magic added) so they look like invincible gods (for now).

Ganishka was a MAJOR exception, not a rule.
>by far strongest Apostle, treated Zodd like a bitch
>has actual abilities outside of mutations
>doesn't serve Godhand and in fact rebels against them
Ganishka was anything but your average apostle.

>Low-tier

After the Branding, the world went full high-fantasy.

I hope Griffith likes getting fucked. He's alright with old men at least.

Yes, with difficultly. A LOT of it.
But I'm playing a superhero setting and my character is sort of Doctor Strange, so fighting otherdimensuonal beings with a lot more power then him is kind of his whole job.

Does your character have a girlfriend? Better hope he can keep her safe, you know what they say about Griffith...

Sounds like a start, a bit limited in selection but jumping to better than just starter spells.

If that's case then even a mid-level PF caster could likely wipe the floor with them. As always, a system with BS magic users who outclass entire classical pantheons by endgame.

The PC in question would like this guy.

a worthy challenge for us

Daedra are probably equal to the Godhand, in their own realm.

But Daedra are markedly weaker in the mortal realm then in their own. Godhand can manipulate a ton of shit on earth.

So if the Godhand fought in a deadric realm it would be a tough fight, but if they fought on Nirn's surface I think the Godhand would win out of sheer brutality.

Yeah, those with the undead curse would overcome. They sorta have the exact same curse and abilities as Guts, except one big advantage being immortality.

FUCK no, he couldn't take even one of them.

I see. How are they a lateral thinking though? Sheogorath isn't just LOLrandom insanity; he's very cunning, and unlikely to fight fair. See story for reference: en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:16_Accords_of_Madness,_v._VI

>>doesn't serve Godhand and in fact rebels against them

He didn't serve them directly, but his whole "rebellion" thin worked towards their interests still. Wasn't Ganishka's death the whole thing that allowed Griffith to get his own damn empire, and caused him to become branded as the world's new god?

Sheogorath only superficially represents madness, he's the god of non-deterministic freewill. Part of becoming him in Shivering Isles is eschewing a hitherto flawlessly accurate prophecy of every minute event that would occur from an undisclosed past time to the present based on a deterministic model and deific knowledge, which should sound familiar in the context of Berserk. He also has more raw power than almost any other being in his own setting, except maybe Hunding (the god of I Win, Deal With It). Also, the Princes follow similar rules to the God Hand with regards to corporeal manifestation in the mundane world, except Sheogorath frequently bends or breaks all of the rules regarding that and saunters down to Nirn.

Sheogorath is pretty much the TES version of the Skull Knight except he's also a god of immeasurable power (the resemblance is even closer if you consider his role near the end of Daggerfall). Considering the Skull Knight is a threat to the god hand and he's not even a god in his own right, I'd say Sheo could body them no fucking problem, and that's assuming it's not in his own realm where his power is absolute.

Nope.

No. He was the world's new God because he was the answer to everyone's prayers. Everyone in the world wished to be saved, and as a result Femto was allowed into the world as "the hawk of light." This was all established during the Tower of Conviction arc.

Ganishka's death allowed the other four Godhand as well as the full extent of the astral plane to manifest in the mundane physical world. Thats why shit like sea serpents and genies and dragons are suddenly normal.

You are right about Ganishka's little kerfuffle all being within the flow of causality though. The Godhand are great at understanding people, setting things in motion and taking advantage of the result without having to remove free will. The Godhand up until now have been very subtle in their methods. Even Griffith raised an army and went through tons of unnecessary steps to rule Falconia rather than doing everything on his own, which he seems more than capable of.

fun fact, Ganishka also unironically owned a daemonculaba

If I reach over and punch the GM, would that count as a win for me?

If they can pass as demon prince equivalents, my small aspiring chaos cultist is dead, period.

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He's either unbelievably fucked, or will manage to bullshit the situation to his advantage.

>Conviction arc was the last good part of Berserk
>mfw reading this shounen idolmaster wannabe bullshit that Berserk has become

Elf island full of loli witches and lead by a "king" that's actually a queen in a teenage girl's body. Fucking loli mermaid in the party too.

I wanna die.

I got this

Horatio will remake the Shadow Realm in his image too.

I wonder what's on that peak they carry the doggo on. Eclipse Night, most probably.
The latest Berserk chapters are too good. I live in constant fear of it all shattering like cheap glass.

Thank you anons

There is no kill like overkill

It would be very painful

Would be entertaining as fuck.

Dont worry user. Its only a matter of time. Befor they are all brutaly murder raped when casca becomes the new godhand.

But user, my favorite character's mission is to kill the godhand.

Assuming I'm not flat-out cheating and picking something from super robot-hood as one of my favorites, I feel like this magnificent fucker would have a pretty good shot.

>reincarnation of Wizard Jesus
>the only Wizard in a setting full of psychics
>like Gandalf but the kind of Gandalf who will talk about his old friend's measurements just to fuck with the MC and then transition into being a wise motherfucker
>helps kill the literal incarnation of Evil in the universe

He'd probably need to grind some levels though.

It kind of has to be lighthearted right now, since Miura's own mental health is at stake here. Writing what is effectively one of, if not the darkest setting to date right now has taken a major toll on his mental stability, and that's pretty much the reason things have been so cheery for a while now. Miura NEEDS to write something lighthearted after all of the constant grimdarkness or he might very well suffer a full blown psychological break.

>it's not edgy anymore
>so it's shit

The lighthearted and heroic was always there, but it has buried under the grim. Now the heroes have a chance to fix something and do the heroics and you run off sobbing that the tone shifted. No shit, it's the third act. When the hero rises up out of the darkness.

Berserk is still just as good as it was. People that think this way depress me, because I feel like you always treated the story and characters as secondary to the specific events going on at the time. It's easy to trace the line of each character, they have all progressed logically with the plot as each new aspect is added to the mix, but its like trying to take everything as a whole is too much effort. So we focus on this one cool page or that one crazy cool thing that happened.

It's like people want to see grimdark or their favorite Golden Age character and don't pay attention to how any of it has factored into the story as a whole. They just ran into Not!Innsmouth, and it is implied shit like that is happening everywhere across the world. Guts has allies again and the parallels between this time and when he joined the Hawks couldn't be more obvious. The cute has been a major aspect of this story since Puck. He literally spells it out during Lost Children.

That has more to do with the properties of the Astral Plane then them. They used a complex ritual and a loophole, they didn't just will it into being.

>what is effectively one of, if not the darkest setting to date
>mfw you could literally just say it's a random 40k world attacked by a gang of Greater Daemons and nothing would change
Not trying to push 40k or anything, just making an observation how the personal connection we have with the characters and the detailed account of their ordeals makes it so much darker then most of the stuff in 40k despite a lot of it being worse. Seeing all of Guts' suffering is a lot harder then reading about random imperial world #454958 being attacked by The Emperor's Children or Dark Eldar and a short, vague description of the horrors they committed upon the helpless populace, despite the unknown folks' fate objectively being far worse.

>mfw Puck is literally solely responsible for Guts staying alive, let alone sane during the absolute darkest period of his life
>mfw there are people who actually hate on him
Fucking faggots, the lot of them.

Yeah, I personally consider Berserk as doing a far better job of grimdark than 40k ever has. 40k tries to push its grimdarkness as being the end all be all of everything dark and edgy, and then GW and the children that flock to it get triggered and asshurt when people DON'T find the one thousandth random ass imperial world being destroyed by Chaos as being "cool", or "dark", and instead just find it silly and stupid, because of how meaningless it makes everything. How are we supposed to get attached to characters if they are just killed off mere moments later? How are we supposed to make an investment into the worlds and their backgrounds within the setting when they are just destroyed by random xenos, or a Chaos attack? How are we supposed to find anything any of the characters do awe-inspiring, or epic when those very same actions are rendered moot by the very nature of the setting? 40k in my personal opinion, is a massive terribly written clusterfuck that tries to hard to promote this aura of grimdarkness and horror, so much so that it just becomes satire. Whereas in Berserk I can find meaning in the characters and their struggles against Evil without feeling like it is all just pointless, and nothing matters at all. I mean there are some hints of that, but they aren't what the entire story revolves around or anything like that. What IS important in Berserk are the connections and friendships made along the way, and how this journey tempers and strengthens the characters. It also helps that the Godhand are villains I can actually be invested in, unlike the Chaos Gods.

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Yea, ironically 40k can be really dark and depressing when it takes that same route, focusing on small places/people at a time and writing fleshed out, detailed stories of their struggles. 40k as a setting is great, and i love the huge, mythical backstory of HH, but a lot of investment is lost when i read the umpteenth report of a world overrun by Chaos/Orks/Tyranids. Whereas reading about a particular character(s) living on one of those planets, and how they deal with all of that, those stories are great.

Lets assume the usual power game Kensai/mage, or the even better berserker/mage, level 9/30 and decided to take up goodhood.
The Godhand is going down.

The bit where someone as strong and supernatural as Skull Knight could not hit Femto even with a dimension-warping sword created specifically to kill him was pretty impressive.

...that he's still mad he can't get guts pantsless?

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about do you?

Isn't that kind of a strawman? He's not bitching about lighthearted heroics, he's bitching about generic anime shoujo shit where everyone is a loli but actually theyre just thousand year old magical all powerful elves in child bodies so it would be ok if u wanted to fuck them xDDDddd

Femto alone has top tier gravity control powers.

He can literally bend space around him and can compress a giant demon into the size of a drop of water.

>Not being blackswordman!Casca
>Not playing a girl that was becomes posessed by maximum RED RAEG after her best friend fuck her boyfriend to death

>being blackswordman!Casca

>everyone is a loli but actually theyre just thousand year old magical all powerful elves
Name one from Berserk. Just one. And no, Schierke is neither all powerful nor any older than she looks. Her powers are limited and Guts would sooner hatefuck Slan than lay a finger on Schierke. She's like a daughter to him.

The closest you're going to get to a powerful magic loli is Rosine here, and she's not much older than she appears. Two or three years at most. She's horrifically strong, but not so strong that Guts didn't cut her damn near in half. She bled out and died crying for her mom and dad, whom she murdered. Yeahhh, what a fun magical girl story. Wooooo.

Young girls have been featured as prominent characters in Berserk since Volume 1 or 2. Shit, since the damn prototype. So no, there was nothing "straw man" about that user's reply. And while the tone has shifted since Guts began escorting Casca, it's moved the characters forward. If you want a stagnant grimdark setting go read 40K fluff.

And the ruler of the Elves is no more a loli than Slan or Casca or Farnese. And we have no idea how powerful she is. And no one has made any attempt to have sex with her, or even flirt with her. She's a lot more like a fairy godmother than an anime stereotype.

Can't say it about the others but one of the last characters I played would have a pretty good chance against him.

But then, her thing was gravity control and being immune to the effects of it (A very needed secondary trick when you are using it around yourself) so Magical Girl Granzon have type advantage on that front.