Imperium vs Xenos campaign, no ayyLmaos allowed. Edition

They aren't a faction. They are just new SM squads.

So do more than two pairs of scything talons do anything? Why do Trygons have 3 pairs?

Swap the lascannon for a mortar so you can hide and not get shot up on turn one while still returning fire.

I second this Their vehicles will be a game changer

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Worse than Cruddace.

>But you'll never hear a socialist/communist admit to that because "oh that wasn't true socialism/communism".
Man, are you retarded? I'm talking about academic definition problematics and you went "hurr durr muh bad commies". Sure it is a shit but it's not the topic of the conversation. You can not separate emotions and discourse? Are you from Poland or what?

Chaos with Chaos, Imperium with Imperium, Eldar with Eldar variants, Nids with Genecults and Genecults with Imperial Guard, T'au and Orks with no one else.

Maybe you're more of an undivided kind of guy?

I'm on board with that.

T-the Emperor's light shall keep me pure.

M-memes are not helping me user

People who intentionally carry off-topic discussions into new threads should be thrown from helicopters tbqh

Tfw pretending to play apocalypse against myself

I should to get back to painting...

>primaris are a faction
why do i keep hearing this? they are just more space marine squads

New genestealer breeders when?

>Same shit but with more diseases, anger issues, and retarded babbling.

It is truly funny that you find such things tempting.

Listen up you little shit you are actually right, sorry

do you want to shoot things with big guns and be tacticool/honorabu
or do you want to move up field as an unconquerable horde eating everything ?

So, now that everyone has gotten a chance to take a look at the 40k 8th Edition rules/indexes, I have to ask: How do you feel about the changes to your army?

As a Skitarii player thats now burgeoning into a full Admech player, I cant help but have mixed feelings. The loss of Doctrines, and the unit stacking of Canticles kind of takes the flavour out of the army, along with the reworking of Radium weapons, loss of FNP in exchange for a 5++, etc.

The ability to run full Admech however, is awesome. No more messing around with allies, seperate books, or formations.

So, thoughts?

I have no interest in your misbegotten kind.

Are the Primaris at all good for competitive play?

Can some leak user post 8th ed fluff?

>tfw 3/4 games i played a month for 7th were against myself.
its my own fault for moving out in the woods, but i do miss having a flgs

Thoughts on the following DEldar list?

>Haemonculus - Hexrifle
>Haemonculus - Hexrifle
>Archon

>10x Wracks - 2x Ossefactors, Hexrifle
>10x Wracks - 2x Ossefactors, Hexrifle
>10x Wracks - 2x Ossefactors, Hexrifle
>20x Warriors - 2x Dark Lances
>20x Wyches - Agnoiser

>5x Scourges - 4x Blaster
>5x Scourges - 4x Blaster

>3x Talos - Macroscalpels, Stingerpods
>Ravager - 3x Disentegrator Cannons
>Ravager - 3x Dark Lances

195 burger dollars for a warhound from Chinaman. I'm not going to lie guys, I'm really fucking tempted. Has anyone ever got a warhound from Z?

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Most likely not.

How are deathwatch in 8ed. So far?

Alright.

POST
SOURCE
NOW
please

Time to shelf them user and buy some chadmarines. You got fucked hard.

putting chaos marines with daemons.

Two detachments, business as usual?

These indices are just placeholders to let people play their armies. Note how none of the Space Marine chapters have any specific rules, or that there's no artifacts and little customization for most units.

That's the spirit! With or without a cock? Oh who am I kidding you're just going to need to guess.

Purity is over rated. But you might want to stay clear of the Nergal cultists.

Yay! Heresy!

That's cute, let me get my can opener

They can be one detachment, if you want.

A lot of flavour has been removed. I'm desperately hoping that codices will expand this

I really wish we had the biomorph range of 4th edition back as nids

I've got a Taurox that I haven't open yet from the last time I played. I already have one built, should I sell the boxed on or build it?

Read through some of it yesterday at my FLGS. Few things I remember.

After Cadia falls Khorne invades Terra with 88 daemon cohorts. They make it to the Gates of the Palace before being destroyed. Khorne gets angry at them and obliterates the 8 Bloodthirsters in charge of the attack.

On Armageddon a massive warp storm blankets the whole planet and there's a gigantic invasion of daemons. Slaanesh and Khorne daemons fight each other whilst Orks and Imperium team up to fight Daemons. In the end a ritual is disrupted which prevents Angron from being summoned. Armageddon's whole surface is warped and changed by Chaos. Ghaz nowhere to be seen.

Blood Crusade is Khorne yelling really loud when Cadia falls which prompts a giant daemon invasion of various worlds. They're heading for Octavius currently.

Can't remember much else, was looking for Ork stuff mainly.

(elysian) guard here (so not entirely sure about the full effect)
but i love the amount of options we have when it comes to building and playing an infantry list now
the orders especially look really good and with the rending system i finally have a decent use for some of the awesome but ap4 so totally useless weapons since it's all spacemarines, we had in our arsenal
on the other hand blast weapons , the previous mainstay of most guard armies took a serious hit in effectiveness , i don't like randomness when it comes to big guns and with dx hits and dx damage everywhere on bs4+ vehicles you're bound to have really shitty shooting fases when you need them the most

i'm really happy i can bring a flying circus and not be cheesy either

Why pretend? Why not play a game of 8th against yourself to test out the rules?

Why is Slaanesh so perfect?

Damn i bought the battleforce back in january but i had some good games with them. Time to preorder dark imperium :^)

Well, I'm playing the second option right now with my skavens and I like it but I'm open to new play-styles. For me it's all about usefulness of units. I know that with Tau start collecting I'm okay to play Kill Team and with Optimised Patfinder Team I can also play SW:A.
On the other hand Tyranids box gives me warriors for both KT and SW:A and Tervigon Brood Progenitor gives me gants - never enough of gants. The point is I know little about Tau and even less about Nids so I don't know if these two boxes of bugs are okay for formats I want to play

Foul being my purity is what keeps me close to The Emperor. His strength will guide me to destroy you and your sex- i mean horrific body.

Why would anyone think that more "shapeless gunblob-itis" was a good idea. Seriously I like a lot of the stuff in 8th but the death of positioning is really annoying.

Owner choosing death sucks and its only saving grace is that flamers aren't completely vulnerable anymore.

Vehicles losing relentless sucks too. I can understand the manned weapons having -1 hit but automated weapons getting it too sucks. The loss of armor values could be remedied by "+1 to wound against vehicles attacked from the back and sides" or "-1 to wound from the front".

Character rules are shit as is and would work better if they treated other units like cover as in "can only be targeted if not 25% obscured by another enemy unit" also, the monster rule should make them targetable, Hive Tyrants are pretty fucking huge and many characters are way bigger than troops even without 10 wounds.

And unless they're constantly updating battle slates which, if their game is well made, they wouldn't have to do, the elimination of universal special rules is retarded. It only makes sense if they expect to update unit starts with special exceptions e.g. "place this unit anywhere on the table at least 9" away from another unit. But only on turns where night fighting is in effect" then calling it "Convert Deployment" instead of just calling everything "Deep Strike" would make sense.

Can't think of anything else I dislike that isn't just bitching about changes to my army.

>Yay! Heresy!
Lord Commander Regent would like to enlighten you on definitions of heresy and his Aeldari allies.

Don't field Deff Dreads, they're still crap.

Not yet at least.

Me, too. My small town had a lgs in the 90s. 30 years later I'm the only player.

thats a good idea

played a game with them at my local store today and i destroyed the nurgle guy
the hellblasters + captain + lieutenant is an awesome combo and the extra rapid fire range , attacks and wounds really helps you get an edge

the goofy looking jetpack marines proved invaluable when it come to creating a diversion and their ability to fall back and shoot is great coupled with their 6 heavy bolter shots per dude

they might do worse against a shootier army though

I'm having flashbacks of my CSM right now.

Thanks.
Can you post some photos of timeline and new warzones?

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Talked me into it.

What if you're a trap

Aren't they going to get more rules and support soon?

>whole surface
i thought i remembered reading that it was about half
also there is the whole plague wars where nurgle takes over 5 systems on the edge of ultramar

Eh, they seem okay.

Didn't take photos. Just posting what I remembered.

Then you should play x-wing

Slaanesh demons

then suicide because you'll never be a real girl

Octavius? You mean Octarius?

Orks vs Nids vs Daemons?

All part of the gig

The Emperor eh? How about we pull out the captured sister of battle and do lines of warp dust off her ass. That might loosen you up a bit.

Excellent! Get this user a cultist!

Don't worry you'll be reuniting with your bother soon so he can finish the job

And by CSM I meant Command Sergeant Major

Yeah that one. Seems GW figured it wasn't right to have a conflict occurring without Chaos getting involved.

In my opinion, Deathwatch remained about the same (which is to say, not that amazing but playable), or even got better.

The frag Cannon continues to be amazing, and are even more devastating than before on overwatch, where you get a full 2d6 automatic hits.

We keep our special issue ammunition (and we're the ONLY ones who have it now), and wounding on a 2+ is way rarer now as it's only done at x2 toughness.

Veterans actually went down by 3 ppm, watch masters dropped by 45 pts and actually got better.

Now that everyone has infinite splitfire, our schtick of having ultra customizable squads becomes more effective

The Corvus is amazing now. It puts out a huge number of shots and is more effective as a personnel carrier than it was before.

I think we did bretty good.

>playing against oneself
people actually do this?

Are you actually female?

Because if so that user's joke is fucking uncanny.
(There's three women here who play 40k, all of them run nids)

So this is my understanding of Quantum Shielding:

>I shoot at Necron vehicle
>I hit
>I do 2 wounds
>Necron rolls saves
>Necron fails both
>Now Necron player has to roll a D6 and on a number lower than the number of wounds, and if he rolls it then all wounds are discarded
>If he fails this wounds go through
>If the wounds do multiples damage per wound then you still only roll lower than the initial number of wounds dealt. (e.g 2 dice do d6 damge but he has to roll less than 2 rather than less 2xd6 result)

Correct?

Do you have a problem with someone testing out armies against them self and maybe trying to develop strategies for different attacks that an enemy could pull?

S-Sisters are pure they would never let us do such things off their bodies.W-Would they?

It's retarded and pointless

Look at mr. Fancy pants with friends.

Nope - male. And all female players I know (5) run Deldar/Clowns and Crons

No, it only works on multi damage not wounds. If an attack would do more then one damage you roll a D6 and if it's less than the damage you don't lose any wounds.

The closest thing to this I've ever done is do some math for which one of units 1, 2, 3 or 4 are the most effective at destroying enemy unit X

He said PRETENDING to play against himself, dumbass. He just posed his dudes for a photo.

this
the fact that you know what you're planning defeats the whole point

You'd be surprised the things they'll let you do if your real nice to them.

He also seems to mostly just be posing the armies not actually rolling dice and shit

No. Try this:
>necron vehicle suffers 3 unsaved wounds from a multishot gun which does D3 damage
>attacking player rolls 1, 2, and 3 damage
>damage 1 attack cannot be stopped by quantum shielding
>damage 2 attack stopped if necron player rolls a 1
>damage 3 attack stopped if necron player rolls a 1 or 2

Did they fix the retarded weapons options, I just want a termie chaplain

I'm thinking of getting into them. How do you manage without predators? And why do Terminators not get special ammunition? Seems a little silly that they're denied it unless they're in a kill team.

Ah ok, so it has a really good chance to ignore high rolls on damage but is susceptible to glances.

That's cool.

>tfw hypocritical loyalists who always act so damn high and mighty callin' a nigga 'traitors to mankind' are literally dangling with xeno bitches n' shit
Smh desu famalam. Horus was right.

Others replying to him confessed to playing against themselves, though
so it's a valid statement

Moap, don't troll people, you already have an army.
Also post tummy

But you foul heretics aren't nice all you do is tempt and befoul the good in man kind.

>are literally dangling with xeno bitches n' shit
Emperor never said that we can not be friends with xenos and fuck their females mate

Only so long as it's mutation free.

>be Legionnaire during the Great Crusade
>wonder what will happen to us when the war ends
>revolt against the uncaring Emperor who uses us only as tools and discards us when he finds something better
>Like Primaris Marines

Horus literally did nothing wrong.