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I don't mind. Chult is pretty cool.

Rules for adventuring in the jungle, rules for parasites and diseases, haunted and creepy locations, ruined sites, terrifying monsters.

Anywhere outside the Sword Coast is :thumbsup: at this point

Boy do I hope they massively improve the UA content if that's true, because otherwise, there is no point to buying that book.

Why buy a book when you can just get all the content for free, officially, online?

>parasites and diseases
yes please

>Group plans out a larger than usual session to introduce some friends to the game
>8 fucking players + DM
>Supposed to fit into a 700sq.ft. apartment that has virtually zero air circulation, a loud as fuck pet bird, and air so thick you can taste it on your tongue
>Normally play just 2 players + DM into that same space and it's still stuffy and crowded
>NOPE.jpg
What are the worst circumstances you've ever played under anons?

>party encounters a rooster in a single room
>it's secretly a white rabbit

Why don't you try playing outside you sweaty nerds.

I've come up with some fun character concepts based off the limited information about the setting i've found. It's different enough to be refreshing. Would have preferred non FR though.

Why are the 8 players all fucking? That's fucking disgusting.

Yeah, I agree, I wish this campaign was set in Sword Coast, such an undeveloped place on this edition.

I would agree. But I think it'd be more along the lines of disgusting fucking. They are tabletop gamers after all.

Arizona. We play outside in the winter but it doesn't do much for us in the summer.

>he's never been to a tabletop fuck session before

Missing out, man

>mfw the new adventure isn't in the sword coast

When's Eberron.

His damage was so-so but not horrid. It was reliable. 2d6 cantrip ain't bad when it's an AoE.

The real power was his being able to pass around essentially free healing potions, cheese the environment with Acid Flask (since it does automatic, maximized damage to objects and structures), and keep Shield up on three people at once if he wanted. The magic-items-for-free were great, too. Clockwork Bird Scout was useful.

I, on the other hand, did 1d8 damage every round which quickly petered out in usefulness and my only useful combat power was Occluded Mind, which got used to make enemies disarm themselves or otherwise waste a turn doing nothing because my DM isn't a dummy who'd let me have enemies kill each other every turn

Hardest module in 5e?

If they're all like pic related I'm goddamn there.

The only place I'd want to go more than Chult that's part of mainland Faerun (so not Maztica or anything) is Damara so we could fuck up Castle Perilous again.

But Chult is actually way cooler than Damara. I just like Castle Perilous and Zhengyi.

Because all the UA content they've put out has been very explicitly "test content", so if it's reprinted for the new book chances are some of it is going to be changed due to feedback.

HotDQ because it's a dumpsterfire of an adventure.

They didn't change Swashbuckler

HotDQ because HA HA DRAGONS FALL YOU DIE
SKT if your DM plays the giants with an Int higher than 6
Toughest legitimate module is probably PotA. It's got a lot of long dungeons and none of it is particularly bullshit, but you'll get surprised by a few things since it has such a large enemy variety and can get mobbed down. The main enemy groups are also intelligent and can adapt to your bullshit.

A new Cold Lands adventure where you try to remove the Damaran usurper Yarin Frostmantle and restore the Dragonbane dynasty as well as try to thwart the plans of the Warlock Knights of Vaasa and it all finally ends up raiding Castle Perilous again and another showdown with the Witch-King WOULD be rad.

How do you guys play your enemies?

How smart are they? What tactics do they take? Do they ever go for grapples? Do they take hostages? What about downed players? Do they disregard them? If they see a Cleric bring someone back from being downed, do they start targeting downed people?

What is the smartest you are willing to make a character before you draw the line?

In the dining area of a supermarket at 2 AM

>complaining about playing in a 63m2 apartment

Listen here you little shit, our group plays in a 20m2 apartment and I've held parties of way over 9 people in my 45m2 apartment, where we stayed in one room. You go play that and be thankful for the group and game.

This actually depends on the Int of the enemy in question and if he's an NPC his personality; I never make them smarter then their stats say they are and sometimes they have other priorities.

If a druid takes levels in monk, can he be a bear/wolf/whatever that knows martial arts?

Sounds perfect for a post-apocalyptic game

Close.
It was Shadowrun

Oh, anyone notice the similarities between these two?

No because animals don't have unarmed strikes.

RAW yes. A lot of DMs will say no. Personally I would only allow it if the animal is at least vaguely humanoid in terms of limbs (so ape is fine, bear is questionable, mouse is a no).

And

MY GIGANIGGA
>call it Siege Perilous
>double meanings ahoy
youtube.com/watch?v=Omz4pHuM5zU#t=1m05

Claws count as melee weapon strikes?

Yes, but it would be a standard monk unarmed strike, not their standard attacks. See
>sageadvice.eu/2016/03/21/how-do-wild-shape-attacks-interact-with-unarmed-strikes/
>but a Druid/Monk in Wild Shape can still perform a head-butt type attack as an unarmed strike, right?
>Any creature can make an unarmed strike, as defined in the Player's Handbook.

They do, you just can't use their base beast attacks as unarmed strikes.

Yeah.
>they don't know about Crane Style, Snake Fist, Eagle Claw, etc.

Claws are natural weapons.

>Kung Fu Panda xDD
>but he can only do headbutts

So would their be any actual benefit from doing this or would I just be memeing?

Nobody said anything about Kung Fu Panda. The original poster asked if a wild shaped druid-monk know martial arts, and the answer is yes.

Several double-meanings there.

Starting off the humanoid enemies won't be too smart and will simply attack before easing into more advanced things. I want to give my players a chance to wise up by stating what's around.

Maybe viable at very low levels when the animals have more hp than you.

If you're a wolf/dire wolf you'd benefit from pack tactics, I guess. Otherwise you'd pretty much just be memeing.

It's Acererak. He's been in several pieces of 5E art.

You're attacking with your claws, not attacking with your Claws. Does that make sense?

It works like this:
You can either play entirely like you're a Monk who just happens to be a bear today, making normal unarmed strikes and using your Dexterity instead of Strength if you want and having all that sweet unarmed progression die according to the Martial Arts table, the bonus action unarmed attack, Flurry of Blows, etc.
Or you can take what is essentially a weapon attack using your beast form's weapon as any normal Druid would, ignoring any benefits that MA might give like Dex-as-AB/Dam or triggering your bonus action unarmed hit.

The ideal way to balance this is to say that you pick either or for a round. None of that "I attack with my giant elk's Antlers and deal 3d12+Str and knock prone on a DC15 strength check, then as my Extra Attack I make an unarmed strike with my hoof for 1d6+Dex, and then bonus action attack again for 1d6+Dex". Don't mix and match. You are either entirely kungfu-ing that turn or you're not.

for what purpose?

The title alone makes it deserve a module.

How was Mike Mearls as a DM?

Zhengyi is kind of the most stereotypical "dark lord" sort of guy in Faerun.
Seems a lot of the others are more into conspiracies rather then massing huge armies of orcs and shit to take over everything.

He seems fun.

>It's Acererak. He's been in several pieces of 5E art.
Does this mean all artwork that Wizards have included in their works to date will give us a clue as to what will come out in future products?

Which dragonborn color would you pick for a lawful good paladin?

Are convoluted rules questions allowed here?

If so, how does one determine the speed in which a player can fall from a great height?

The scenario is that my character was picked up by a Roc and carried away. I was able to break free and I want to know how many turns it takes me to fall to the ground from a height of 240 feet.

Which is why he's awesome. All those other guys never get anywhere. Zhengyi just made a fucking of zombies and monsters when no one was looking and rolled over everything in his way. No muss, no fuss. He's a practical lich. What the fuck are the rest of the liches doing? Just sitting in their holes studying magic and jerking off. Acererak isn't even going to get to have any fun before a party of level appropriate adventurers knock down his door and ruin his day. At least Zhengyi got to murder tens of thousands of people and strike fear into several countries.

Good question.
I'd say "no" or "unlikely", personally.

>Oath of the Ancients Paladin
>Personality of a tree hugging Darwinist who has a hard on for the 2nd Amendment, RULES OF NATURE ABOVE ALL ELSE type nature fanatic
>While exploring to eliminate a lycanthrope (disgusting hybrid of nature, humanity, and dark magic), find out that this lycanthrope uses his time as a human to care for a number of injured wolf pups whose mother died recently
>"Sorry Mr. Werewolf, it's nice that you're keeping these pups alive here but you're still an abomination. Time to die."
>After killing werewolf, DM asks what we do with the wolf pups
>peta pally responds, "Leave them there."
>Bleeding heart party member responds: "...But before we fought, you assured the werewolf that the pups would be taken care of no matter what happened. You can't just leave them there, that breaks your oath."
>"Yeah I said the pups would be taken care of, not that WE would take care of them. Nature takes care itself. If the pups are meant to live then they will fight and find a way. If they are not, then another predator will come by and consume them. That is how nature works. Through human interference to keep animals alive longer than they should be, you are only creating a stunted animal reliant upon humans. To you it may seem barbaric, but understand that nature does not operate by human standards of morality."
>Other party member: "You still can't just leave them here. By choosing to abandon these injured pups, you are choosing death for them. You know a young, injured animal like this cannot survive no matter what. You are killing these pups by abandoning them."
Who was in the right here? The PETA pally who wanted to let nature handle nature, or the party members who said that abandoning the pups is breaking the oath of someone sworn to protect nature?

>"Feather Fall allows one to fall at 60 ft. per round (6 sec.), or at a speed of 10 fps without suffering damage. Free-fall, which is injurious, should be faster than that. A little high-school physics will tell us that a body falling freely (assuming g=32 ft/s2) for 10 ft. will attain a final speed of ~25 fps"

According to google it's give or take 25 feet per second.

Gold, obviously.

4 seconds depending on your weight.

Silver. Make him prone to boasting as a flaw and claim he's actually platinum.

Ruty "the Railmaster" Rutenberg

Wait what's in Xanathars? UA?

He also kind of got killed straight off while those other guys are still kicking around, so there IS a logical reason for them to play the longer game. It's not like they're at a lack for time or anything.
He seems to be one of the few liches who ego overruled his intelligence, though honestly how much of what he did was what he wanted to do and how much was Orcus pulling his strings is unknown.

....wait a minute, what was Orcus doing during Out of the Abyss? We never saw him, did we? Where was he?

Orcus was supposed to be part of a novel with Drizzt but that deal on that fell through.

>If so, how does one determine the speed in which a player can fall from a great height?
High School physics. Terminal velocity for a human is around 53 m/s. The distance required to reach that is
53/2/9.81=2.7 meters, which is negligible.
240 feet is ~73 meters, so you should hit the ground in roughly 3 seconds.

How many DMs here allow homebrew things in their game? How many players use Homebrew races/classes?

Ruty "The Train Doesn't Go There" Rutenberg
Ruty "I Only Wrote a Boat Fight" Rutenberg
Ruty "Cancell the Books" Rutenberg
Ruty "Shut it down!" Rutenberg
Ruty "No Pee Breaks on this Train" Rutenberg

Rounds take 6 seconds each, so by DnD rules, you would fall for... 40 rounds? It's best not to apply real life logic.

Human body reaches terminal velocity in only 2.7 meters? Why does a 10 meter fall hurt way more than a 2.7 meter fall then?

From PHB on Oath of the Ancients
>This oath emphasizes the principles of good above any concerns of law or chaos
Would imply that you should do the good thing and keep the pups alive, rather than just saying survival of the fittest and letting things die.
In the end though it's your character, do whatever the fuck you want.

The Paladin is right, but the rest of the party is also correct. Both options are moral in their own way.

Animals die in nature all the time. We can help those we see but ultimately nature will be nature.

I would have sided with the paladin.

Wat.

>berg
Every time.

No, I'm just really shit at math. I just realized I fucked up, a lot.

Thanks lads, seems like this should be something covered in the players handbook. I really appreciate the help.

I am a cleric with death ward active. My plan was to turn myself into a missle and crash into a Stone Giant, steering myself with the wings granted from radiant soul. Unfortunately my scumbag party killed him.

The DM wanted me to fall at 30ft/turn. I was thinking this made no sense.

Hmmm....I might be able to do something with that then....

PETA paladin followed his oath, because I'm assuming he protects the "rule/order" that nature follows, something the werewolf violated both with his existence and his adoption of the pups. You protect the sanctity and purity of nature itself, not necessarily its denizens.

That said, no one's in the wrong or right here. Bleeding heart party member can adopt the pups or whatever, who gives a shit.

Oath of Ancients seems like it is heavily based on the Green Knight from Arthurian legend. It seems like the Paladin is going for a more druidic approach. Personally I find his interpretation to be more interesting than what the books says but yes, if you wanted to be a rules lawyer then technically the Paladin is misguided.

Hey, let's not say that Zhengyi just kicked the bucket like any other old lich. He got stomped by a party of guys who were strong enough to CHUMP HALF AN UNDEAD ARMY, BEAT UP A LICH, GO TO HELL, JACK ORCUS' WAND, GO TO HEAVEN, HAVE A PERSONAL CHAT WITH BAHAMUT, AND KILL AN AVATAR OF TIAMAT.

Everyone in this party was palling around with legit Gods on the regular, and Zhengyi's STILL probably "around" in some way in the crumbling not-even-ruins-for-some-reason of Castle Perilous.

>weight affecting fall speed
It's like he failed high school physics.

He had at least two moments of sperging out in in Stream of Annihilation of essentially "No you don't, you do this!" And I really hope someone has a gif of him yelling to WotC to "Cancel the book! Cancel the book!" Because his players were trying to flee into the jungle and all he had planned was popping the Zombie vomiting Dinosaur set piece before going back to his grinding boat fight.

Some research tells me a human would reach terminal velocity after falling about 573 meters, which would take 10-15 seconds. They would be moving about 54 meters per second.

his answer is actually roughly correct, though. 3.85s or so.

^ I was the guy who wrote this. I think I somewhat changed my mind about the Paladin being right. I think what he did was morally correct and I would have done what he did but I also believe that he did not act according to the principals of the Oath of the Ancients as written.

After reading this, and the Oath of the Ancients description, I actually think that it would be more "in-class" to save the pups.

>"The Oath of the Ancients is as old as the race of elves and the rituals of the druids. Sometimes called fey knights, green knights, or horned knights, paladins who swear this oath cast their lot with the side of the light in the cosmic struggle against darkness because they love the beautiful and life-giving things of the world, not necessarily because they believe in principals of honor, courage, and justice. They adorn their armor and clothing with images of growing things - leaves, antlers, or flowers - to reflect their commitment to preserving life and light in the world."

Someone who took the Oath of the Ancients would probably be inclined to saving the wolf pups because they have taken a "commitment to preserving life and light in the world." A Druid which is more neutral would be more likely to have the response of leaving the pups to nature. That said flaws exist, and this ancient oath paladin's darwinism could be considered one.

Weight does in fact have an effect on your falling speed, although it is very minute. Dropping a bowling ball and a golf ball from the same height will net different results do to wind resistance.

That's not weight, that's surface area and volume.

Started Storm King's Thunder with some friends tonight, first session was fun. What are we in for?