Infinity General: Feelings of Inadequacy Edition

Aleph Girls are perfection. Aleph is the future. Embrace AIs.

Haven't painted in maybe 5 years or so. Working on this so I can git gud before I dive into my PanO MO.

Thank you CB for making such sexy models.

Like sticking your dick in a toaster.

Hot but ultimately regrettable.

Okay, I know nothing about Infinity, but as far as
I can tell, you're telling me the AI that directs humanity from behind the scenes is helping people find love with continuously better humans, through genetic modification and subtle social engineering nudging you towards the perfect partner?

Kindly tell me why in the ever-living fuck I would ever support literally any other faction? I'm in!

>Aleph independent subroutine has been helping humans find love for generations
>Can't help you; everything it's (she?) tried has failed
>Finally decides "Fuckit" and takes a gynoid frame to flat-out ask what your problem is
>"Well see, the thing is... I kinda like you."
>Who knew a gynoid could blush?
>tfw you will never have a slightly tsundere robot girlfriend

>nomads
haqq bioscience makes the best titties, obviously

الثديين أكبر

...

مرحبا

As much as Lupe likes to tease Thrasymedes, they are not really robot, they are more like bioroids. Sometimes one mind in several bodies.

Wait, that's ACTUALLY A THING?! I was shitposting!

Infinity confirmed for greatest sci-fi setting ever!

I'm not Arabic, it's all Google Translated.

Tell them not to be assholes and change play stile.

Assume I am late to the android meme game and want to make 2B and 9S as proxies for Ajax and Thamyris, what models would be a good basis?

Why, so you can return to the glory days of kurwaspam?

I'm not sure Ajax would be a good fit for either of them, he's huge. Even 2B's butt isn't quite big enough for that.

Eh, there's a happy medium between limited insertion and 20 order faggotry. 14 dudes is hardly kurwa.

I've been thinking about a 2b conversion too. I was thinking I maybe start with a Moira body. The thong leotard is already sculpted on, and you'd just have to sculpt her dress on. Then a Proxy Mk1 head with blindfold. I'm just not sure of where to get the swords

Limited insertion isn't the solution, many armyes lose lots of profiles and play same lists if they want to have a chance.

Fuck sistematically someone to avoid someone else being fuked sistematically is the same problem with diferent face.

Split icestorm with a friend. What are some good first buys for PanO?

Ajax, despite being xbox hueg, is Aleph's only real evasive melee model. Kinematika, big melee weapon and massive robot cleaving power made him seem the best rules fit for 2B

yeah, because I have to play with 10 dudes, when the other dudes are runing around with their bots that don't count, for LI , proxies that don't count for LI etc. also the so called kurwaspam is a myth. no store would even have enough boxs of models to make someone play a 30 order list.

No, that's what being an Aleph recreation does.
Those tits are as real as the rest of her; meaning not at all.

Good enough to grant I-Kohl level 3

ALTAIR! HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE TENETS, OUR CREED!?!

remove kebab

Auxilia, Croc Man, HMG Nisse.

>also the so called kurwaspam is a myth
Warszawa here. It's more than real.

What about Achilles?

any help for 150p 3swc SAA list? :C

Radzymin here. Your bullshit talking.

Posthumans are a shit to deal with in LI, I'll give you that. They're already undercosted in normal games, but in LI they're basically cheating.

Spam is definitely not a myth though. 20+ order lists are a cancer I've personally had to deal with. They're not too hard to beat, but you have to tailor your list so they limit the lists you can take and they just make games go on so long. Trust me, I'm no fan of limited insertion but it exists for a reason.

Regular link, Naga KHD, dronbots.

Thanks. Auxilia are pretty uggo tho. Bots are still cool.

Regular link, trauma, bots and a bulleteer.
Let the bulleteer do his job first, if possible with a buff from Regular hacker and then send the link team to clean house.
10 orders full of efficiency.

16-24 is basically the ideal operating range for a Vet Kazak with AP HMG. You're good as gravy for acting going on the offensive, and you're ready to drop into Suppression and become a goddamn rock that's very difficult to dislodge. -3 from cover, -3 from Mimetism, -3 from Suppression, and 7 ARM makes the Vet a real pain in the ass to deal with, especially slinging an AP HMG whose range-bands have changed to benefit them up close.

And again, I also used to strongly believe that Paramedics were just a trash-meme that exists mostly just to clear slots for Combat Group transfers. But after several games with that bastard, I will honestly swear by it. The odds look shitty, but it offers the chance for some miracles on the 3rd turn. And yeah, if you actually do run Dogs, he will turn them into almost hilariously unstoppable monsters. You should be able to get to a spot you're looking at a 16 on the BS hit, and then a 13 on the Phys check. It sure beats the danger of trying to sneak a Doctor deep into enemy territory, and bringing back a Dog in the enemy DZ is a nightmare for your opponent.

Especially when playing LI, I will usually just bring the Vet instead of the Doktor. Though I still hold out hope we'll get the Doctor profile in a thousand years when the sectorial comes.

Thinking about getting into Infinity and likely with Nomads. I'll be playing primarily against Yu Jing. Is the starter box and the Corregidor Jurisdictional Command box good first buys? Are Mobile Brigada good units? They're really what first caught my eye. Any purchases you'd recommend?

Both those starter boxes are good and will get you a decent mix of core units, although with intruders you'd rather have a sniper or HMG instead of the combi rifle in the box.

The usual suggestion after a starter is to get the support box and a box of remotes. Most Nomad remotes are good actually.

Mobile Brigada are good units. Balanced, solid and reliable with their main "weakness" being "boring" compared to more exotically equipped heavies (that possibly have a points discount in comparison from frenzy or religious troop). The Lt option with the Multi+Flame Thrower gets a lot of mileage (I still remember one time my Shaolin Monk managed to get in position to stab him in the back with his full close combat prowess in the impetuous phase and the Brigada still outrolled me and killed him. Otherwise the option's a durable Lt that can do things in medium and close range with good reliability and set up intuitive attacks or suppressive fire with the Lt Order.

In a link of five men they're not bad either.

On top of supports box and just about any remotes box (lunokhods, EVO, the other standards are all good) I'd suggest the HRL Wildcat, an HMG or Multi-Sniper Intruder, Alguacil SWC box, Moran combi, and Jaguars.

The icestorm box sets you up for corregidor and the cjc set isnt bad if you want to run a wildcat core, but you will need the spitfire and heavy rocketlauncher blisters. Jaguars are important for smoke and intruder combo. You can proxy that intruder as an hmg or sniper, or even as an lt if you desire. The brigada is a solid but basic HI, decent lt option you can shellgame with if you have alguacils/wildcat possible lt. Good hmg platform to hold down an area. A full link is good but also 2/3 of your points. A bandit is usually a good idea too.

>Aleph is a Jewish word
>females it creates all have huge tits
it makes sense

Ask Sathuli what he's playing.
Answer: 20 Orders NCA.

Maybe your provincial town store doesn't have enough stock for kurwaspam, but local community has been growing for years and we've got official distributor shop here. End result is 30 orders CA lists (thankfully Zippy has stopped doing that apparently). Kurwaspam is real, though it should be called "Warsaw-spam" to be more accurate, as I don't think any other Polish metas are as cancerous (Białystok-likes aside, they usually don't attend tournaments). Minimum 18 Orders is the norm here outside LI events.

yeah, but sath is gay and gypsy probably. everyone else plays 17-19 orders armies, not the 30 order abominations. Why should I be punished for stuff that happens in another city an edition ago, an edition I did not even play in?

>an edition ago
Dude, Kurwaspam became prominent in 2015. That's N3. Before HSN3 and LI, but still.
17-19 is already spam range. Spam begins more or less at 16+.

So what do you think Next Month's release will be like?

Riot Grrrls, Caledonian Volunteers box, Zhanying Hacker and what else?

At least 2 repacks

we started to play with n3 rules a year ago.

There was a sniper shot of something Merc-ish, so might be a Wardriver or one of the ALIVEs.

Basic N3 was released in ~Jan 2015, let's give it ~3 months for lack of complete army lists and the like. Not our problem if you're backwards.

That outfit looks inpractical and uncomfortable
I love it

whats a good 300 point comp for bakunin

you've just described every uniform in infinity

Riot Grrrls (ML, Spitfire, Spec-Ops, tinbot), with a Daktari, Ueberfallkommandos, Zeroes, Prowlers, Morlocks and remotes to taste.

Oh yeah, and forgot to mention the Lt being the red fury + koala taskmaster.

The shot of the bakunin base with a box of ammo right?

I think user's talking about this one. Came out the week some fluff bits for the Alive group was.

Yeah, this one, a black cloak (different design than the Zhanying), and a different part of this model with a cream strap.

There also this one from today, which has the same color scheme, may even befrom the same model.

CyPunkSlum Progress, first steps on the base

Huh, that is a pretty good chance to be an ALIVE member

Also did the entrance area, with a holo-bellbuttons. Is gonna get a little roof. Later details like waiting parcels and trash should distract from the rough paintjob, that's the way I do it cause I need to be lazy from time to time.

Next up some shading and dirtying up for the base. Starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel, but there's still a distance to go.

175 years into the future kids still don't know to pull their pants up.

Summer of Caledonia confirmed
Bring on the Grey 4-man box.

Just got the old Caledonia starter at half the price, because I already had some Scottish models I got for looks and Corregidor. I wondered if getting the new one in addition to the old one would be a good idea, but it seems like it isn't. I was sure the Haris was 2x Grey and Mormaer, not the other way around.

>Remotes
que?

Maybe they'll actually revise the sectorial so it works under the new rules, then. Most of the actual units are fine but they need better specialist access.

A paramedic grey profile would go a long way in making LI palatable for CHA.

Oh damn, dig the buttons like your ISS tape.

Why are there so many renegade sniper mercenaries who don't really know who they're working for in the Human Sphere? Kinda feels like you must have to wade through these guys at the bar.

>30-order CA
>5 Orders at 13 pts or less each, the rest 14 and over
>30 Orders

TEACH ME YOUR MATH MAGIC, CABBAGE MAN

Its doable, 6 regular orders at 9 points or less. Bunch of cheap dudes at 14 points and fill in the rest with gakis/pretas.

People often count impetuous orders when talking about the order count of a list

it's not entirely unreasonable because you can achieve a lot with those impetuous orders especially if you have smoke, and CA can field 8 regular troops with impetuous orders for 120 points. that's 16 orders right there, throw in some hungries and it wouldn't be hard to hit 30.

It's a cyberpunk setting, there are millions of renegade mercenaries who don't really know who they're working for in general.

Statistics state that quite a few of them will be snipers.

None of those make any sense, just ignore them.

Because Snipers get romanticized like with many propaganda pieces like with Stolz de Nation or American Sniper, or Ghost In the Shell's Saito

I think they just have seven as a baseline number for the hyperpowers like PanO and Yu Jing. Just the remotes about everyone else has

They only have the 5 generic ones. Aside from Ariadna and Tohaa they have the fewest in the game.

A 20+ order list would die hard to a TR bot and good defensive links wouldn't it?

Those lists usually have enough direct template throwaway units to kill links and TR bots quickly. And their own TR Bots and defensive links. Not to mention they excel at extremely dense tables, in more open ones two TR bots and multiple linked snipers (read: you have to play a Haqq sectorial) is enough to kill them.

Sounds like if you got first turn vs a list like that a fast rambo like a killer remote, Spitfire Su Jian, Devil Dog/Mcmurough would do great.

Also a model with good climbing could probably get into a very annoying position to suppression fire.

I would definitely want first turn vs them so I could set up mid field.

Sometimes I want to run into these spam lists and just shit up the board as much as possible.

Kek!

Not just those. You need to play generally defensively. Mines, templates, sensor, MSV snipers, TR bots and all that good stuff.

Unless your defensive link is MSV2, nah

>MSV sniper

Your MSV sniper dies to a B5 BS16 APHMG grey, congrats

What does one of these lists look like anyway?

Honestly I feel the prevalence of Shock Ammo weapons like SMG, Red Fury, Marksman etc as well as blast templates is partially to counteract kurwaspam. Pretty much any decent unit can go rambo on spam lists, the problem is just the huge gap in order efficiency.

If you're using MSV snipers like you use TR bots then you're going to have a bad time. They don't exist to counter attack units, that's what TR bots are for. They exist to counter smoke, in particular smokey warbands (which themselves are a big counter to TR bots). Don't leave the sniper out in the open, tuck him away somewhere so he can't be shot from the opponent's DZ but fuckers still have to cross his path to get to the midfield. It's still beatable, but it sucks away orders and if the opponent isn't careful their smoke throwers get filled with holes.

It's not order efficiency, it's order numbers. Big stuff can be very efficient with orders, but if you've got 10 and the opponent has 25 efficiency can only get you so far. That's why it's important to concentrate on priority targets actively and make the most of AROs.

What I mean is order numbers, my bad, I was just thinking of it proportionately - to be efficient in your situation you have to match 2.5 orders with 1 of yours.

Shock ammo is actually not very useful, except for taking out NWI/Dogged models.

Being hit by a normal hit or a shock round will both take a 1w model out of action. That's what you want. Doctoring someone is usually so order intensive plus the actual roll risk as to not be worth it outside of key specialists or expensive 25+ point models in the right range.

A spam list wasting orders doctoring things up is a win for you.

Galwegian spam tho

Order spam sounds like a good reason to field Guilang minelayer.

Also Hidden Deployment of a killer model like a Hac Tao or Anethematic.

Kurwaspam didn't tend to feature much in the way of NWI or Doctor figures, so I'm not sure I see your point.

>Don't leave the sniper out in the open, tuck him away somewhere so he can't be shot from the opponent's DZ but fuckers still have to cross his path to get to the midfield.

It doesn't matter how much ARO you give your sniper, if it has any at all it's liable to get hosed by some core linked shit or other strung unit that doesn't rely on visual mods to overpower you.

and that's before you even get into the potential to get white noised when not playing against low tech hordes.

I just don't think MSV2 AROs really work these days unless they are strong AROs in their own right (like a core link)

There is a time and a place for everything. Maybe you wont have your sniper out for turn one, but turn 2 you can try to scalpel out some enemy models then put your sniper to bear.

Also tables should generally be asymmetric so the guy going turn 2 should have better platforms for his ARO pieces that include elevation or better fire lanes from deployment.

Overlapping fields of fire is neat too and running a cheap defensive link can really mess with your opponent.

It's basically a counter to counters, existing to support other units and cover for their weaknesses. Other ARO turrets can't do jackshit against a smoke advance, and disposable warbands are a great way to fuck up TR bots. So setting up something that can kill them before they get close works well. Most of the time that big linked dude doesn't actually want to follow around warbands and move all the way up to kill something threatening them, so you're forcing him to piss away orders.

Plus if you're playing against a spammer and kill his main rambo you could just bring it out to dominate the board on turn 2. Those guys don't tend to bring backups, they can't afford to while also keeping their orders high.

That said, I wouldn't use it against something like PanO or Tohaa, or some lists from other factions that aren't so smoke dependent.