Warmasters Triumvirate XIV

I guess it is.

I made a discord and put the link in the Legion chart.

I moved it to the links page

So Kane is going to throw a suicide squad into the front of the Titan, get on board and have an epic fight with Raj, in which he kills Raj.
The Titan gets destroyed and Kane is immediately rewarded as Daemon Prince for killing Raj.
Then the team up with Linares and Lambach happens? The chaos forces fighting each other instead of Imperials give them the upper hand they need to win convincingly?
This lets Kane have a truly bad ass ending moment to the war. I dunno how everyone feels about it though, some people seemed to like it.
Also I can't stop imagining Kane as Erron Black from MKX

I know the Imperium's tech level is supposed to get buttfucked backwards by the Brotherwar, but I'd feel it... odd for the VI to lose their main advantage: their weapons. Would it be sue-ish if, even after the war and into M41, they use things like Phosphex, Volkite, etc.? They'd likely be extremely rare, but the Death's Heads main thing is their exotic weapons

Go ahead.

Traitor.

It could be that whichever side they're on grants them special facilities for that sort of thing. Some sort of dedicated toxin forge facility. If mars is less fucked over in this sequence of events or the legion forge has already specialized in these things, they'll be better preserved.

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The Forge-fanes for the Legion on Rheigmarkch's moons (the planet itself isn't stable enough for that kind of industry) would definitely be able to produce such weapons, and since Rheigmarkch is way far out, maybe it avoided most of the destruction and thus is still able to produce such things. However, since this is their only source of such weapons now, they can't use them as judiciously as they once did

Wasn't the SepMaster Captain El Frencho?

>dealing with trolls properly
Where do you think we are? :P

What kind of mutations might be specific to followers of Hashut?

Dwarfism.

Sounds good.
Ashen grey skin?

I'm not sure if Raj is truly capable to putting up a fight, as he's actually piloting the Titan at that moment. You can't just quickly uncouple the Princeps from a Titan.

It seems more likely Deshain and his men blow up the plasma reactors, then maybe put some bullets in Raj's brain.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing to be honest, I just wasn't sure if you wanted Raj to have a big final show down.

Maybe the daemon primarch tf happens just before Kane engages the titan, and Khorne makes him a xboxhueg one, able to fight against a titan, and that's the final fight. Or, Kane sneaks into the cockpit and just puts some boolets into Raj's head.

PROMPT: The Primarchs meet together, and have a pulse
(Sorry, GTranslate)
Who can be beaten by your Primarch and who can't?

I think Linares would be able to beat nearly everyone of his peers, except, Maybe, Pacha, and unless I I'm leaving something behind about the other Primarchs.

You mean arm wrestling?
Pacha probably beats all his other brothers once he gets the hang of the proper arm technique.

Yes, sorry.
Beating Pacha there could be like trying to move a mountain, huh?

Okay then, he will have those samples. And the Silver Blades will be eager to taste those delicious plates of the Golden Mountains, that's for sure! Maybe a cooking meeting where the Legions prepare food from their homeworlds and eat each other's?

Weapon skill? Strength contest or battle of the mind?

I think one case is a lost one.

Strength contest

I prefer a battle of mind. Your morron won't stand a chance.

Obviously, Linares isn't a Psyker, he would get mind fucked at the first try

So that's the troll again.

Mind battle doesn't necessarily mean psyker fight.
It could be like a game of Regicide or like scrabble or something.

That would be different, of course. I think that Linares would prefer a sstrength contest, but he wouldn't care about having a mind one.

>He's not very good at Regicide, tho

Kane prefers a shooting contest or a melee combat with weapons of choice. So he would take pistols. If he has to use a sword he would look silly. Fists on the other hand he might surprise a few of his brothers because boxing is a thing of speed as well.

I thought it wasn't you. The troll is really bad at copying people's particular way of speaking.

Raj would have played Linares countless times. Sometimes you gotta relish the easy victories.

Linares prefers actual joint exercises to prove his worth, Regicide is way too static and rigid.

Yeah, excessive physical exercise is not exactly Raj's thing. He's not particularly strong, easily is the lower 50%. He does have a lot of stamina though. Basically, he's got high DEX and CON, low STR.

I've tried to build Lambach in a way that he is pretty much the middle of everything.
He is not the strongest by any means but he isn't the weakest either I'd say. So I'm not really sure who he could beat. Definitely not Linares or Pacha.
He might be the smartest Primarch we have, I'm not sure. Emil and Gyhadread might even out do him there.

I see Lambach as our Magnus the Red, but whatever. Maybe Raj could be beaten.

Enough stamina to keep all these guns on board, I see what you did there.

Raj isn't the smartest either. Up there, but not as smart as Emil or Gyahdred. He's meant to be wise and charismatic, not incredibly clever.

And yes, exactly. Raj carries around a lot of stuff, so he'd have to be able to carry all that around. Plus, him and his legion sometimes walk for days on end. He's incredibly fortuitous, to keep it in D&D terms.

I don't play DnD, but I know what you are talking about.

The Blades usually do long marches with and without their wargear, but mainly as a training measure, not as strategical movement. For that, they use their transports

>Accurate depiction of Pacha

Yo Rokuten, you around? I have a question related to your legion. Specifically the 300,000 marines.

300 WHAT??
Smurfs-Tier, at least!

Roboute was hailed as a fucking genius for managing to competently run 250,000. His entire deal was him being a master of logistics and the like, which is how that was explained.

Rokuten somehow having more makes absolutely no sense, but I want to hear his explanation.

I put the Titan Marchers at 97,000, which seems more than enough.

The Blades are listed as having 130k at their maximum, but usually they have between 90k and 100k. 300k looks ridiculous. Let's see what he says.

Sorry guys, had a family crisis, and havn't had the time to write much. I'll try to do some writing asap.

Hope everything's alright

Yeah man, we understand.

Last thread I tried to get some clarity on the name of the legion. What's the final answer on that?

Thanks guys. The final name will be Emperor's Dragoons. I have updated the google doc

Neat. There's a link to our new discord server in the google doc. Please, join us.

Thanks I will

And that time was known as Clusterfuck Heresy.

Rokuten puts a thumb tack in his palm and gets disqualified. Ogre Legion swears vengeance upon the arm wrestling league.
I forgot what the size for a big legion was, so I put 300,000. Thought the Ultramarines were 500,000, but guess not. I'll cut it down to 120,000?

120,000 seems more than reasonable. Glad to have that cleared up.

yeah, shit happens dude, it's no big deal. I honestly have no idea what to put the Chosens numbers at, seeing as they started out very weak I never intended for them to get very large.

Do you have any Macbeth references?

In highschool I actually played the part of Banquo in the play we put on, why?

Because Hecate.

oh rightio, wasn't thinking, basically I went more the Greek aspect, Hecate was essentially the Greek version of Nox. The Roman good of death and rebirth. McBeth is Scottish so I was avoiding using Scottish names

Yet another 'Maestre' pic. Thoughts?

Looks pretty good. Glad to finally see the blue and silver combo.

I just didn't saw it fit with the secondary colors that I had. It was kinda like pic related. Change the gold for blue in the cloak and plume and you'll see it isn't a great idea. I changed the boltgun for white and placed the blue, now it looks cool.

I'm wondering if I should change the grey eagle for a golden one in the basic Legionnaire

Looks kinda like this

As opposed to this.
I like the less shiny look of this one.

Yeah. Gold draws attention, but it shouldn't be the focus of the armor of the SILVER Blades. But the blue doesn't look that good?

Wait, blue? the blue of the eyes?

The blue plume and cloak? Wasn't that the plan?

Ah, of course!

Looks pretty sweet.

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gotcha

bump

We still have the human webway project?

I don't know. If the Emperor's dying on Ullanor/dying early in general, I don't think he'd have time to start the project.

Which inadvertently might be a huge boon to the Loyalists, since Terra wouldn't develop that Warp Rift under the Palace that gives the Custodes such a hard time.

If the Seps wind up with the Grey Knights rather than the Loyalists like I heard someone suggest earlier, it might not then be unreasonable to have the Custodes, or a fraction thereof, be a little more active in the Imperium at large on behalf of the Loyalists, perhaps.

It may be a possibility.

I was thinking of some primarchs finding a webway gate while fighting against whatever, and start to use it at a small scale, or tell Big E, and consequently, being forbidden to use it.

>finding a webway gate and starting shit with everyone

That seems like it'd be an interesting story to give the Chaos guys to play with, actually.

Actually, yes...some of them can even move into the webway and set there their bases

Making camp in the webway might be a bit much, since A: You need to be in the Warp to stay alive long-term with Chaos energy, and B: The webway has an immune response to Chaos incursion.

Using it as a sneaky raiding route is probably powerful enough.

True. Lets just use that idea.
The other anons, what do you say?

I like it. Giving WT's Chaos forces another way to fuck about with the imperium beyond the borders of the eye makes them feel like more of a threat and allows them to be more active, which is, if I'm not mistaken, what we've been going for

What Loyalist Legions are present on Terra, and who doesn't make it there?

For the sake of not leveling half of Terra, I'm gunna say the Death's Heads get stuck fighting as shattered elements throughout the Brotherwar, maybe they get Istvaan V'd?

An Istvaan situation for this AU would be pretty cool, and have it as a three front war. It'd make it symbolic of the ensuring war

It seems cool to me. I agree with Emil on the scale, since the webway is designed to keep chaos out as I understand it.

How does he feel about Go?

If Piter wasn't so Russian, I'd suggest he was meh at chess, but excelled at go, adding to the perception that he just threw men at things until they broke.

I don't know if that would work so well.

It seems extremely unlikely that the Loyalists and Seps would remain separate in the face of outright Chaos incursions. You drop an Isstvan V on everyone, that just means Loyals and Seps both get blown to fuck. It'll never be a three-way brawl.

Doubly so since last I checked, the whole reason there's Seps at all isn't "Well we all got together and decided to GTFO the Imperium", it's "We got stuck out in the cold for a while by a bad storm, and when it cleared everything had gone to fuck on Terra".

>World declares for the ideals of the Separatists
>Je'she orders it brought back into the Imperial fold, seeing them as a threat to Imperial Unity
>Some of the Seps say "no, they can have their opinions" and set up to defend it
>This is intended only as a threat, not as an actual act of provocation
>Little do they know Einchurt was given Je'she's authority, and.... maybe Mot or Ashur were given the Chaos WM's go-ahead to use this as their first blow of the war
>Einchurt goes "sorry bros, just following orders, stand down or we will bomb you"
>The rest of the Loyalist Legions are a tad unsure but both of the guys given WM-level authority say yes so I guess we don't have a choice
>Seps refuse to stand down
>Bombardment ensues a la Istvaan III, followed by drop assault
>Shortly after the Loyalists engage the Seps on the ground, who managed to hold out better than expected, the Traitors fire on the Loyalists
>Confusion ensues between who is on whose side except for the Chaos Legions
>War suddenly begins in full force as some schumck conjures up the Ruinstorm and both the Seps and Loyalists call for the other to be censured for their unprovoked violence

Rokuten cheats at Regicide sometimes.

He's not a very good primarch for the Ogre Legion.

I like the idea, but I see a few potential issues or have a few questions.
Why does the Aššurite force begin firing on those loyal to Je'She if they're also there to bring the planet into compliance?
Opportunistic commander?
Also has some good points.
I'll do up the timeline as I understand it later tonight, but I think there's a period of a pretty straight forward war of succession, though of comparatively lower intensity to what is to come. Part of this may be that this is a notable exception and Einchurt doesn't get moderation.

Isn't Ashur traitor? They're firing because it's the start of the Brotherwar and this was their plan to kill two birds with one stone

This is a Chosen without a robe on, I also need to lighten the black on the original picture of the Warpclaw as I was rushing it a bit and I used the flat black so there is no detail.

Ok fools, behold docs.google.com/document/d/1fMU61niPsJw4rifksywpvxiVeCIvnFvGxAyhAGSuytU/edit?usp=sharing

Nice, So 05 is when Linares and Raj are sent by Je'She to go get Lambach back? he turns Nurgle then.

Join the discord.

Remind me again what a Rangda is?

It's a major set of campaigns in the crusade that we don't know much about besides the fact that the xenos were horrific and it nearly destroyed the imperium. One of the missing legions seems to have gone missing then.
The Space Wolves, Death Guard, and Dark Angels were instrumental in defeating the things and the Dark Angels held the line in the far north, losing like a third of the legion in the process, but literally saving the Imperium.
The Alpha Legion may also have made its first appearance as unexpected reinforcements during the third war.

As for the xenos themselves, we don't know much. They're called Cerebrovores in one place and are described as tainting human populations afterwards such that they require massive purges.

Mmk.

Regarding the 005 "Warmasters begin securing support of Legions", is that just Loyalists + Chaos, or do the Seps actively start breaking away at that point as well?

Mostly I'm maybe just confused on how aggressive the Seps are, whether it's the Ruinstorm that really separates everyone and leads to the diverging perspectives, or if it's basically already broken like twenty years prior.

Honestly, I'm not sure. I think it's starting to break up as soon as the Emperor ends up on the throne, but I'm not sure what the consensus is.