Exalted General - /exg/

Does anyone remember the dates of the very first leak?

Not sure. Google search shows an rpg thread from 2015-may-26. If that is earliest leak that would be 2 years ago. And game was officially released a year ago.

It was well before that. First leak I have is from June 16th 2014. But I was not really paying much attention and I am pretty sure I downloaded it after it was out for a little while.

1st Edition - 2001-2005
2nd edition early 2006-2009 (1-2 books were published in 2010,2011,2012 but 2009 is generally the end)

3rd edition kickstarter May-2013
first leak - June 2014
officially released April 2016

that being said in same amount of time (4-5 years) 3rd edition exalted published only one book while previous editions had around 30 products each.

Terrible art, and an untrustworthy kickstarter? Sounds on par for 3E, at least.

Thanks, even if that's as close as we can get. I want to see how active this place was when there was plenty to talk about. Gives me an idea of what to expect when new releases hit.

Anyone got a spare Return of the Scarlet Empress pdf?

Not surprised it seems to be the only resource excluded from the old 2e material compilation

Please don't shit on poser. I use it every day to create my perverted fantasies and I've become quite good at it.

The issue is that good posering is a difficult job, and the professionalism of the poser artists for 3e was subpar. Like, 14 years old who just discovered the tool subpar.

>pastebin.com/GihMPwV8

go to OP's link. there is a >Resources for Older Editions for old editions

>poser
talking about bad you reminded me of 4th edition - GURPS Magic. That was really bad. And I think most of the book was made by the dude who used poser.

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>lemmington

How to trigger the flaw of characters who's players take on climate sensitivity for climates we are unlikely to visit? Like we are in the fucking south man, how will your sea-sickness or jungle allergy will hinder you?

>What is Exalted?

Dead.

>Paying for dogshit poser art

OPP shills are the lowest form of life.

Seems fine to me. People who want to pay for it will pay for it, people who don't want to pay for it will still get some art if it gets made.

why did you let them take it if they were never going to end up on a boat or jungle?

thats more on you as st giving free bp than "how to trigger it"

Yeah considering that we haven't even seen a single sourcebook for this yet, I'm calling this game DOA.

Area of magical bullshit that invokes the climate. Going to look for a manse? Surprise, it's a water manse surrounded by a huge lake, on which it rests on a free floating construction. Everything is constantly shifting, just enough to give you seasickness. Jungle allergy? Wood demense, everything is overgrown thick with plant life like a jungle due to the rampant unchecked font of wood essence, etc.

Exalted collapsed under the weight of it's own bloat, stupidity, drama and shitty-ass pandering pretentious writers. Oh and trying to bite more than they could chew for 3rd edition.

Shame. Part of me like to think there was something good in there, somewhere, long ago.

Well if I ever win the lottery I'll buy the rights to Exalted and hire people to work on 4e.

Though I have a feeling people might not like some of my changes. How do you feel about making Infernals the main splat?

>How do you feel about making Infernals the main splat?
Yozi fanboy pls. Stop. It's embarrassing.

Since Exalted is practically dead anyone know how Scion is coming along?

>oh whoops we totally ruined this game you like!
>yes, give us money we will totally not ruin that other game we swear!

Why are people complaining the game is dead all of a sudden? Did something happen? They only just booted off the old devs for people that actually seemed to be doing their damn jobs.

Considering Holden and Mork weren't involved with it I have higher expectations. However to be honest it doesn't really appeal to me but I am curious if its development is as much a cluster fuck as 3e is.

Veeky Forums is a hell of people who see dead things

A single petty manchild is replying to their own posts to make it seem like they're not an isolated little whiner, would be my guess.

I'm holding out hope for the aberrant line. It remains one of my favorite settings.

which old devs were booted off?

Why people assume I am the ST when I ask things like this? I'm just a salty player who didn't go for power build.

They gain no bonus exp if the flaw doesn't actually come up. Flaws don't give bonus BP.

It's a non-issue, user. It's just a background detail until it becomes relevant.

Holden and Morke are no longer the devs for Exalted. Vance and Minton have replaced them.

>Holden and Morke are no longer the devs for Exalted.
Hah... Why do I suddenly feel hope after hearing that? Even if it's a little small.

Because you sounded like an ST. Also, it's your own fault for not trying to make the best character you can. RPG's aren't a competition, but neither are they an excuse to just slap random numbers on a page in what is a team effort, and expect things to work out. Think of it like this: Would you want to be paired up with the guy who does the minimum of work expected, or would you like to be paired with the guy who is known for giving his all?

Probably because both of them were insufferable shitheads who thought that because they could write passable mechanics it gave them carte blanche to ignore any good advice (such as "hey, don't fucking do this, you retards") or issues with what they were writing, and also to try and smother the game line to eke out more money.

Vance and Minton have also been really communicative with the community thus far and have been releasing previews for their work, so we've seen some stuff for Arms of the Chosen and the DB book. Arms looks like it's just waiting on art and layout, and the DB book will probably at least get its kickstarter this year

they also presided over some absolutely shit characters released in adversaries of the righteous and the bestiary

>Veeky Forums is a hell of people who see dead things

>absolutely shit
In what way

Isn't the entire direction the game has taken from mid 2n ed onward entirely their fault?

>kickstarting art purchases
truly, we live in an age
an age of shit

I apologize for making a person, and not milking irrelevant flaws for extra bp.

Yeah, that sounds like an excuse. You can make a person with flaws that do not apply often. It doesn't make it less of a flaw. I know people who actually do get seasick. You know what they do? They don't ever go on boats, because they get fuckin' seasick. They live in landlocked states. They don't go on cruises.

I'm sorry you think making a character mechanically viable and making them have a history are mutually exclusive, but you're also flat out fuckin' wrong, and you're coming here to whine others got "free" points because you didn't do what they did.

I forget, which of them was the idiot who exclaimed with pride that he'd never actually played Exalted?

Seems like I've touched a nerve.

Kinda highlights the problem, though.
People who like Exalted, like it for reasons that run entirely at cross-purposes to each other (and, indeed, the original premise of the setting), making it impossible for even a mild majority to be happy with it.

True. The writers and the fanbase can never agree on what Exalted is supposed to BE! A high-flying kung fu mythical heroes setting with a dash of anime? An actually dark setting filled with dickass gods and demigods of all stripes? A magical transhumanism setting? Or a cosmic battle against the Yozi?

>It doesn't make it less of a flaw. I know people who actually do get seasick. You know what they do? They don't ever go on boats, because they get fuckin' seasick. They live in landlocked states. They don't go on cruises.
This is complete bullshit, though. Flaws are supposed to have some actual in-game impact. They just plain aren't actually flaws in any meaningful sense otherwise. Sure, seasickness in a real life person does limit life somewhat, but it isn't relevant in a game where boats aren't involved in any way, and if it isn't relevant, it sure as hell shouldn't give points.

>That pic
A neat idea but to my knowledge we still have no reason to believe any of that other than some random person on the internet saying so.

what region of creation would you say the "path of the arbiter" practitioners tend to operate in? they were depicted as a small fairly cohesive group iirc

better than solars(assuming you don't make them ability based), but I'd much rather see dragonbloods as the first published 'core' splat with solars coming out second, sids third, then lunar/infernal/alchemical as they're ready. abyssals last

I would go with

dragonblooded - biggest exalted faction in creation
lunars - major opposition
solars - returned kings
sidereals - puppetmasters behind the scenes
abyssals - new treat

yeah, thats better.

lunars work far better coming before solars than they do coming after, so you've got good escalation in your order. (just figured solars wouldn't be able to be pushed off farther than 2nd since they're traditionally the main guys) my only objection is to laugh at calling abyssals a treat but I do that with a ;) attached to show it's mostly joking.
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I'd switch to your list but replace abyssals with infernals.

and finish it with "alchemicals next and abyssals last. and and new exalts after that if devs feel it necessary"
because:
infernals and alchemicals are fun,
alchemicals are outsiders with their own world so they'd be after creation is actually populated (should probably be last even if they're my favorite),
and the abyssal "dark mirror" thing is easy to do with just the solar book while we wait. also abyssals just suck in general and may benefit mechanically from late to the line hindsight the way infernals and alchemicals did in 2e.

(and of course I'd left out the supplements for godbloods, updated mortal chargen, demon and elemental details, worldbuilding, bestiary, spells, artifacts, arms, etc. left out of the list of splatbooks for simplicity, not as a statement that they shouldn't happen)

honestly I'd put solars last. they're the damocles sword hanging over literally everybody else in the setting. makes sense for them to be the very last thing.

>Dragonblooded fanboys
>in charge of anything
>Dragonblooded being the core splat
>Solars coming last

Completely agree as long as you keep the themed charms instead of making them green Solars, and dump the first 3 chapters of the 2nd ed book in the trash.

New to exalted. First 3 chapters of infernal books are fluff or crunch?

Seconding, also rename the fucking Castes for fuck's sake.

The first half of the fluff, the one about how they're all 100% monodimensional villains and have child-raping contests.

I never really got what was so bad about that section. Other than Lillun, but only because she's gross.

If any of you still have a copy of Anathema on your computers, please upload it to Mediafire so that I can get ahold of it again. I will enact whatever sick, depraved, disturbing sexual acts you desire. I will bully your butt. I will toss your salad. I will drop that pump-a-rum.

youtube.com/watch?v=1wTndUgskZQ

It goes completely against what's in the last chapters of the book, and it just paints the Infernal as boring moustache-twirlers.

It is because writting sourcedbooks is no longer profitable in this age. Back then it was made by poorly paid employees, but as time progressed they were fired to be replaced by even worse paid freelancers. Then freelancers realized a man who works for such unfair compensation has less dignity than a whore, so the quited.

Even DnD 5e only produced few adventure modules.

Which splat is the lewdest? Which is the least lewd?

What would happen should Lillun recieve exaltion in normal manner.

Shes still human and any human can exalt, right?

Hey those names are gold

>What would happen should Lillun recieve exaltion in normal manner.

The Yozi will probably have some sort of security measures.

>Shes still human, right?

Debatable, but the Exaltations typically have a broad definition of human.

>Lewdest
Lunars for sheer quantity, Infernals for quality.

>Least Lewd
This is an almost inconsequential measurement in a game about demigods and abuse of power, but Alchemicals.

>still human
Not really, no. Her body is a mound of mutated flesh that constantly manifests and consumes various organs. There are always a lot of tentacles, though, and she's long since lost her mind.

This ought to have a few versions, plus whatever characters I've created and not bothered to remove from the folder.

mediafire.com/file/otjvdgewlfcnc13/Anathema.rar

For those of you speculating about the reason for Holden and Morke being fired, and whether that's a good thing:

>Onyx Path Publishing: We need to release something to create some revenue and publicity, for God's sake. We're putting out Miracles of the Solar Exalted.
>Holden & Morke: We weren't finishing tweaking those charms, but yeah, you've got a point.
>OPP: And we aren't paying you for it.
>Holdorke: Fucking what? You can't do that. It's in our contracts that if you publish material that wasn't originally in the core book you do still have to pay us if you decide to publish it later. Pay is determined by word count.
>OPP: Not going to happen.
>Holdorke: We can't physically stop you from doing this, but if you do, we aren't going to do any more work for you until we get paid.
>OPP: You're fired, Vance and Minton will be taking the lead now.
>Holdorke: We'll see you in court!
>OPP: Good luck, kids.

I'd be happy about this if Vance hadn't acted like a child in a relatively recent thread. I can't remember if it was on RPG.net or OPP's forum. A fan said that they liked Vance's Old Realm alphabet, but that they liked the 2E Old Realm heiroglyphs better, and they stated why. Vance responded by throwing a complete bitchfit and whining about unsolicited criticism. I don't know Minton's character, but Vance seems to be just as much a child as Holden or Morke. And as a side note, while Holden and Morke did fuck up horribly as developers, what OPP is doing is flat out illegal. Whether or not they'll pay for it is dependent on how long they can draw out the civil court case, because lawyers cost money and RPG developers tend not to have much.

Rich threw a bitchfit about the Old Realm letters. Rich who owns OPP.

That wasn't Vance, that was RichT the head guy of OPP who hasn't changed. Vance is probably the coolest dude to work on Exalted at least through 2nd Edition. Throughout the droughts of information and contact Vance was the guy who tell posted on the forums and responded to people. And after becoming a dev immediately started clarifying super vague natural language questions.

Pretty hype for Vance and Minton.

FFFFFFFFFFFFUCK YEAH! Thank you so much! This is version 5.0.0 and 5.1.3 is the very latest, so this should have basically everything!

Now give me your address so that I may fulfill my promise.

Thank you for educating me. This does make things better. Kind of. The owner of OPP throwing a bitchfit versus one of the lead developers throwing a bitchfit is kind of an ambiguous tradeoff.

We still don't have any confirmation for any of this beyond say so from random internet people, so basically nothing.
I find it easier to believe that whatever personal problems John was apparently going through are real and it was just taking him way to long to get through them so they let him go to get the line moving.

>I find it easier to believe that whatever personal problems John was apparently going through are real and it was just taking him way to long to get through them so they let him go to get the line moving.

This.

No, they're Saturday morning cartoon villain tier shit. Change them.

>Being unable to recognize the pun

Were you in the special class in high school?

More like

>OPP: Hey, Exalted is our top property, and with WW starting up again we won't really be publishing the classic World of Darkness anymore. We need material coming out faster.
>Holden & Morke: Well you'll just have to wait.
>OPP: Look. If you won't release content, we will. We have these Charms and we need to get this material out yesterday so Exalted doesn't die.
Holden & Morke: Well too bad, we're not interested in releasing any material right now.
>OPP: Alright. Well we're publishing it, and not paying you guys because we need to get this line moving. You've only produced one book in 5 years, and this is supposed to be our biggest and most successful line. You've costed us countless amounts of money with your shitty delays and bullshit excuses. We put up with them, but we need to start getting stuff out and released already.
>Holden & Morke: Fuck off then, we're not writing anything else.
>OPP: Alright. You guys are fired. I'm sure the new developers will be getting out content at a faster rate than one book every five years.
Holden & Morke: RAWRGH! How dare you! We'll go cry on the internet and I'm sure everyone will stop buying Exalted books because of how badly you treated us!

>Exalted Fans: Yay! Vance and Minton are in charge now! And they're getting us content! This is the best news since 3rd edition was announced back in 2012!

>>Exalted Fans: Yay! Vance and Minton are in charge now! And they're getting us content! This is the best news since 3rd edition was announced back in 2012!

Ain't it fucking just?

There's a difference between rushing and quality user. Holden and Morke wanted to delay Arms because they thought it wasn't up to par. Given that 3e is an amazing system, I totally feel this del-

OK even I can't say that with a straight face.

May just be an outsider view, but when I hear "effectively playing a demigod" I expect grander than fist fights with gorillas. Bare knuckle brawling a hydra maybe.

I know some of you grognards are still playing 2.5, so could someone please explain to me why Mind-Hand Manipulation was so shat upon in the public discourse during 2.5's hayday? Assuming a character with 5 strength, 5 dexterity, 5 melee, and a three dot specialty in grand daiklaves, the stats of a vitriol-corrupted orichalcum grand daiklave are:
15 accuracy, 16 damage, parry DV 7, rate 2, attunement 8m

Whereas the stats for a character using MHM with 10 willpower, 5 occult, 3 essence, and a three dot specialty in MHM are:
18 accuracy, 3 damage, parry DV 9, rate 5, attunement 10m

The difference in damage is massive, but doesn't stop MHM from being a ping spam monster. Higher accuracy, especially when you consider the upgrade charm that inflicts a -2 external penalty on anyone not using All-Encompassing Sorcerer's Sight. The fact that you get to use occult as a combat stat in addition to its normal function means the cost of that upgrade charm is more than justified. Higher defense. The rate doesn't matter all that much, though it does mean you get good use out of Self As Cyclone Stance if you choose that over Scorpion-Tailed Mirage Technique. Two additional motes need to be committed, I guess. You can also use this charm to defend others without being next to them and further upgrade charms make it really, really damn good at defense in general.

So why does Mind-Hand Manipulation suck?

You don't use MHM for normal attacks anyway, you launch clinch attacks at the start of your flurry of normal attacks

Why you hateing on the band names?

No, I learned from your mom

No they didn't take over until after RotSE