Can we have a Starcraft lore thread? I like the Protoss

worse still
>tassadar was xel'naga all along guys!
>now he and kerrigan are gonna fuuuuse!

>My wife for hire

What were the zerg before?
I've never played the campaigns but I did some reading on the lore recently. Were they always created to be "pure of essence" thing or was it something else before?

They were always pure of essence, but they were different in the original starcraft manual. They started out as just tiny little bugs (what would become larva) that the Xel'naga supercharged into bodystealer parasites that could control the evolution of their hosts. They made the Overmind to keep their essence pure, but then the Overmind went skynet on them and devoured most of the Xel'naga.

Is there any character better than the Overmind?
youtube.com/watch?v=-RF6ONgoWzc

No, shame they nerfed him in 2 by making Him a slave.

Mengsk, though I'd say that's down to preference.

Mengsk is a magnificent bastard, but he doesn't match the raw presence of the Overmind.

>make a space confederacy
>have it be destroyed and the survivors ruthlessly exploited

Fuck me man.

The space confederacy was also in the business of enslaving people. Coincidence?

he oozes personality, which is why I prefer him
My favorite protoss character is Aldaris.
Dude has a solid arc.

Didn't one xel'Naga program the zerg to go after the protoss because reasons? Or was that only a thing in SC2?

SC2. Originally, the Overmind just learned about them when it devoured the Xel'naga and wanted to devour them too, becoming "perfect".

This series was so good when it was a few noble-minded people trying to deal with the fact that their factions are run by various kinds of asshats, and the big twist was when one of the protagonists only wanted to kill her evil boss so she could take the throne herself.

Then we spent two whole games undoing and un-undoing the big twist and wrap the entire fucking thing up as a bunch of Just As Planned destiny shit by a bunch of deities that had no foreshadowed motivations.

I can write a better story arc than that in the time it takes to take a shit. The Xel'Naga show up and take over everything. The protagonists team up to form a resistance, and actually succeed, but Kerrigan betrays them at the last second and takes over the Xel'Naga instead of destroying them. We go make Protoss/Zerg hybrids in a last ditch attempt to overthrow her, which succeeds. The galaxy is at "peace" because now there's a five-race clusterfuck and nobody can get the upper hand.

No. Probably not.

Everyone needed a happy ending. Even the Zerg just chill on Char now.

There really wasn't that much lore to begin with I didn't mind it.

Zeratul.

He was every cool character imaginable.
He was a ninja, he was a wise old man, he was an honorabu warrior, he knew how to talk shit as well.

youtu.be/5MYX8H_-Gw0?t=3m8s

They could probably hand Post-SC2 content off to other writers and have it come out with something interesting. Now that Amon and all that nonsense is done and there's an active Xel'Naga stand-in going around flushing life into the universe again, there's potential for all kinds of new species to pop up. Cultures that'd only just reached space-flight outside the Terran Dominion and suddenly have a population spike rush for colonial expansion right into a Kel-Morrion Combine facility and initiate a poor first contact. Colonial Terran worlds suddenly find species that were thought intelligent but only nascent in societal construction suddenly flourishing and reaching out, taking to Terran tech and methods astoundingly well. Plant-based bio-rganic weedpatches ravenously tear into rogue Zerg cerebrate swarms and Zagara's Swarm revels in the new life as an opportunity to gather and test countless new strains. The Protoss' new union is under constant stress of cultural clashing among the various tribes, complicated further by the fired-and-forgotten Zerg assaults that Kerrigan sent their way in Heart of the Swarm. Among the Terrans, the former Emperor's loyalists and zealots still pop up after their rebellion/coup failed, and Vallerian and company are having a harder time holding the Dominion together than Mensk ever did. Entities like the KM Combine, secretive human "advancement" groups, and even old confederate holdouts are emboldened in the Dominion's weakening grasp after the fall of the Defenders of Man.

And somewhere, out in the darkest reaches of the Dominion's renegades, pirates and cut-throats...
Mira Han plots to conquer it all in the name of getting Matt Horner's sweet ass.

there were plenty.

>tassadar was xel'naga all along guys!
No he wasn't. Don't be dense.

One game, plus expansion pack.
Liberty's Crusade.
Shadow of the Xel'Naga.
Speed of Darkness.

A trilogy of novels centering around a protoss living archive forced to reside in the mind of a terran and their efforts to try to preserve that knowledge while dodging various dangers, interested parties, and the fact that having a psionic presence riding around in his head was giving him brain cancer. Lots of fluff for the protoss.

A few comics/manga came out for it, some anthology format and one mercifully discontinued Nova: Ghost Academy.

A pair of novels for Jim and Tychus' backstory.

The original SC1 Player's guide had plenty to work with. Am I missing any?

Oh right, Nova's own backstory novel.

I'd fuck Horner

Yes Mira that's pretty much the joke.

The stuff surrounding the ghosts was pretty neat, when it escaped teen drama angst nonsense.

Shame they'll never actually finish Ghost.

SELENDIS A CUTE!

Accidentally stumbling on that special mission and seeing what Duran really was was a crazy moment for 12 year old me. I had no idea Blizzard would fuck it up so bad 11 years later.

I always wondered: does anyone think that a Starcraft warband or wargame could work?

Like... I hate to make the 40k reference, because some anonymous idiot is going to use that to start a dead argument again, but imagine using Warhammer 40k mechanics to field armies of Terrans, Protoss or Zerg against each other.

Maximum cute. Supposedly later on it was said that she was the executor from SC1. Don't have a source on that, but mixed feelings.

>Shame they'll never actually finish Ghost.
Downloaded the model rip of Nova from HotS and modified it to have SC:Ghost in-game model proportions. All of the fun.

t. young fag who wasn't playing the game after school everyday in 2000

Yes

>WoL happens as seen up until the very end. The artifact activates and kills/flatlines Kerrigan. When he learns of Space Anduin's double dealing Arcturus attacks his sons power base kicking off a Terran civil war.

>HotS starts off with an unnamed brood lord on Char. With the Terran occupation severely weakened by the civil war it is able to absorb other swarms on the planet and drive the Terran from the system. Quickly unifying other zerg in the sector it sets it's sights on Auir, landing and absorbing the remains of the Overmind. The second game ends with a resurgent Overmind in control of a newly unified Zerg and the Terran Dominion and Rebels battered and weakened.

>LotV is the Protoss last stand. Harnessing barely understood Xel'Naga technology and mustering the many factions of their people they push the Zeg back and eventually drive them off Auir. The Overmind escapes and retreats beyond the edges of the sector beaten but not vanquished.

>The use of Xel'Naga technology has acted as a beacon for something beyond the edge of the galaxy, which has turned and is heading towards Auir.

Just my head cannon.

>Starcraft Remastered superior in every way
>Other than Starcraft 2 style Hydralisks

a starcraft tabletop game could absolutely work. Halo was more ill-fitting than SC for wargaming but still turned into a pretty solid game.

Missed the best bits with the censor bar there.

Protoss do not have pussies.

Didn't want to be banned.

Shh.

I mean you left her coochie unobscured.

Just noticed that and was hoping no one would point it out.

I'm not complaining.

that's kinda freaky looking to be honest. I liked it when Protoss were crusty faced things with no visible pupils

Oh really? I never finished the campaigns of even the original SC games but I got the impression that the Zerg were some sort of Terran weapon gone rogue? I recall there were beacons that they placed to call swarms to planets.

They butchered her appearance in Legacy of the Void for no particular reason.

Some anons stat up some units in 40k every few SC threads. Giving it its own system, or mostly own system, would be nice. Never played the official board game but supposedly that was decent.

He meant you missed censoring the pussy.

>Blackstrip over nipples
>Leave vag showing

Masterful censoring work you've done there mate

Deathly sick, interpreted that wrong. Wondering how long it's going to stay up.

Starcraft is pretty easy to translate into things, since the game differentiates most of the units with verbs instead of stats, and the things that are differentiated by stats are like zergling-zealot where it's such a huge difference that almost any conceivable stat system can capture it.

Fuck, back in college we used to play a loosely Starcraft-themed variant of Settlers Of Catan.

Since it's ker-fucked anyway, source?
Google can't find porn anymore and yandex is under maintenance right this second.

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It's like leaving a trail of sugar water between an anthill and your neighbor's garden. You can make ants a problem for someone, but you didn't invent ants.

Artist is atryl, r34.

SC2 gave Protos WoW armour, was pretty silly.

It's fine. The ridiculous armor belonged to name characters and I think that's appropriate

>but imagine using Warhammer 40k mechanics to field armies of Terrans, Protoss or Zerg against each other.

Why on Earth would you use one of, if not the worst wargame in existence for that? There's endless hordes of much better sci-fi games out there, the only thing 40k has going for it is the nice models and that sure as fuck doesn't have anything to do with a potential Starcraft thing.

little brain worms

>Nice models
Not really. Passable ones, maybe.

Thanks to the sculptors doing what the fuck ever they want the entire range is badly out of scale and style from faction to faction, and on the topic of scale their "heroic 28mm" is still just an excuse to have monkey hands and ludicrous inhuman proportions.

Starcraft 1 lore:

>Protoss: Engineered because ??? by unknown aliens called Xel'naga. Unified as a race by a telepathic link that keeps their personalities in check and working in harmony while using crystal-based technology that responds to their thoughts and has built-in AI and shit. Xel'naga start to worry about the direction Protoss are going, and as a result the Protoss think their "gods" are abandoning them and launch an attack on Xel'naga ships which does basically nothing because it was primitives with stone spears against energy shielded metal. Not wanting to destroy the Protoss despite the race being a failure, the Xel'naga just leave. Protoss get a race-wide guilt spiral that is magnified by the whole race sharing emotions and experiences, causing a massive era of ludicrously bloody clusterfuck teamkilling until a philosopher named Adun decides that shit went on too long and codified how Protoss should behave and organized them into castes with responsibilities to each other. Some Protoss aren't happy with the Codex Protosstes that Adun made and decided to cut the nerve that ties the whole race together and be individualists. The society Adun created demanded he destroy them, but he packed them in ships and sent them to go live somewhere else instead. Protoss expand, while the second group create their own philosophy of drawing energy from outer space while the ruling caste become more and more overbearing douchebags. Protoss society begins to fall apart simply because there's nothing driving them onwards and the leadership is discouraging change. Then suddenly they discover Zerg.

>Zerg: After the failure of the Protoss, the Xel'naga decided to try again at creating the perfect lifeform because ???. They decided to start from the ground up rather than work with existing sentient animals and found tiny worms that lived on a lava planet and embedded themselves into other creatures as hosts. The Xel'naga decided more control would bring about a perfect lifeform, and bound all of the worms into a single intelligence called the Overmind. The Overmind grew more and more intelligent and powerful, then began hiding from the Xel'naga who were disturbed but fascinated by its rapid development into a scheming being. Then suddenly the Overmind threw all the Zerg at the Xel'naga, destroying them and consuming them into itself. It eventually attracted spacefaring creatures to infest, and began refining its insects into becoming creatures themselves rather than just infecting hosts. The Overmind also created lesser versions of itself called Cerebrates, and expanded its psychic link making the entire swarm just an extension of itself. It knew about the Protoss from the brains of Xel'naga it consumed and obssessed with absorbing them to become the ultimate lifeform. It also discovered humans, and found them to be a much more malleable creature similar to the Protoss. He kidnapped one of the strongest psychic ones he could find then made her into a modified Cerebrate with another Cerebrate put under her command.

>Terran: Earth became more and more of a unified military dictatorship as the years went by. After quite a bit of time basically being Shadowrun with no magic in the slums while the upper class and central world governments became Starship Troopers, scientists of the unified Earth decided to combine a holocaust with a research project by loading up all the mutants, psychics, criminals, freethinkers, insane, and anyone else who would fit onto gigantic colony ships to be sent into space. The system was buggy as fuck so one ship was destroyed, one disappeared without a trace, and one crashed far from where they were supposed to end up in the Koprulu sector. The Koprulu colonists formed into several planetary governments, which was united under a single Confederacy. The Confederacy soon saw itself less as a council and more as the dictators of the sector, carrying out espionage on its unhappy members like the Umojan Protectorate and outright waging war on the rebellious ones like Korhal while also conducting MANY fucked up experiments by using lobotomized/bomb-implanted/indoctrinated child soldiers as well as exposing civilians to just about anything they discovered. The son of the old leader of Korhal, Mengsk, started a rebellion and began by using the psychic child soldier who was sent to kill his very own family then recruiting territorial governors and old fashioned cowboys. Meanwhile, Zerg are starting to appear in massive numbers from fucking nowhere and nobody knows the extent of how deadly these things are, but the Protoss suddenly appear and exterminatus any planet that has Zerg for a certain amount of time...until suddenly they stop doing that. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on, but the Confederacy is going even more dictatorship than before and everyone is pissed off.

So the moral of Starcraft is this. Fuck conformity and insular attitudes, be an individualist who's capable of actually getting along with others.

Well gee i wasnt aware of all this thanks for correcting me.

You missed the
>Power of Love
From the epilogue of the last game, my friend :)

I also like protoss. Sexually.

After playing SC2 the moral of Starcraft seemed to be 'Don't punish people who commit genocide because they might be Space Jesus.'

SC2 wasn't really about morality so much as an alien squid manipulating everyone so his pawns could defeat another alien squid.
Nothing that Zeratul, Artanis, Kerrigan, or Raynor accomplish mean anything without Ouros' hand guiding them to the finish line. Their personal victories were all transient, temporary setbacks to a xel'naga.

"Chris Metzen is hell bent on ruining all of Blizzard's IP's" is what I took away from WoL and HotS.

Liberty's Crusade is a garbage book and not worth reading. It's just the plot of the Terran campaign with Jimmy sidelined in favor of the author's OC donut steel Michael Liberty, adventuring investigative reporter who becomes Mengsk's trusted confidant and Kerrigan's romantic interest, and the moral impetus behind the Hyperion deserting the Sons of Korhol after New Gettysburg falls.

>Raynor cucked
Man, no wonder Metzen killed Liberty off. Those self-inserts are hard to put down.

That sounds like typical mary sue garbage. Does Michael liberty show up in other things?

You kinda took a little liberty here compared to the other two races.
Kel-morrians aren't even mentioned.
No I think they realised their mistake, most of the other books are alright for the most part. Jimmy and Tychus backstory is probably the best thing that came out of the sc2 books.

>aberration is roughly the same size as a marine

this list can't be right.

Aberrations walk over troops like that.

>its fine

it really isn't.

see artanis.

You are mixing Kas and Adun there.

Also, the Aeon of Strife lasted for eons, during which the protoss lost their pseudo hivemind unity. In fact, it was the growing loss of that unity that made the Xel'naga deem the protoss a failure, and that loss only magnified once the Xel'naga left and the protoss turned upon each other.

Kas rediscovered that link, and founded the philosophy of Khala around it.

Adun was an Excecutor that lived long after Kas was dead and the society of the protoss had been reformed around the Khala. The Dark Templar tribes were discovered then and the conclave feared that their disunity from the Khala would lead to another Aeon of Strife, so the Conclave demanded their destruction. Adun instead sought to spare them and helped them escape on a Xel'Naga worldship that was left on Aiur, which made him a hero to the Dark Templar.
That's the reason why the Dark Templar units say "Adun Toridas" in Starcraft.

I always wondered what the heck is up with Aldaris' voice between the cutscenes/mission briefings and when he's the in-game announcer, like I wonder why he sounds different unlike the Overmind and Adjutants who consistently use their same, respective voices.

>He kidnapped one of the strongest psychic ones he could find then made her into a modified Cerebrate with another Cerebrate put under her command.
More like he made that Cerebrate into her babysitter.

Beefslab Artanis has a fine design, it works for his new role as a strapping young warrior-king who leads from the frontline.

Post more protoss

I'm gonna fucking say it.

Cowboy Bebop was overrated. Outlaw Star was a better show.

Disagree.

They are both great shows.

Bepop has loads more quality though.

I actually liked Wings of Liberty, but HotS and LotV were total garbage.

both are overrated and outlaw star had a terrible rushed ending

I think it'd work fine, especially as a skirmish scale game. Hell, I saw something that looked like CMC300 armor in the reaper bones 3 kit and got those for our mid level starcraft group.
Naturally when I finally got the minis we're taking a little break to play fallout appalachia edition, but I still think it'd be cool

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Wings of Liberty didn't do a good job of selling me on Raynor's turnaround from wanting to kill Kerrigan to wanting to save her. The rest was fine.

Ghost Tassadar I assume he means

Three years and gallons of whiskey took the fire out of him. That's really all there is to say.

I mean he did drink his ass off all the time and then had to go on a huge protoss bullshit vision quest which told him "If you kill her we're fucked".

Wings also had some interesting side quests and actually had interesting characters such as Tychus.

I get that, but the story was badly told.