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I remember someone saying something about how the bladesinger is deceptive in how you go about making one decent.
I have a player who rolled one up (which I've never seen or used myself) and they went 16/16 dex/int, which struck me as sorta... not bad, but made of why, until I read how the book recommends it. Can I get some advice on this, whether it will come back to bite them or hold them back?
Also, runepriest, is it as shit as I've heard? I am a fan of the lore, and just imagine slapping people with blocky roman print and telling them how much the gods hate them and I will write it down for them if they don't believe it.
Runepriest isn't bad, it's just got quite a limited power selection since it was such a late class.
Let the bladesinger add INT or DEX to a secondary defense. They have a gaping hole with DEX and INT overlapping.
I would say that an assassin (executioner)|paladin (blackguard) is not much better than an assassin (executioner)|warlock, a generic Spiked Chain Training rogue (scout), or a charging gouge fighter (slayer) with Martial Cross-Training for Rain of Blows.
While such builds will always be good chargers, they are probably going to find themselves outclassed by more dedicated nova builds in the paragon tier.
I am slated to play a level 6 wood elf Spiked Chain Training ranger (scout) in an upcoming mini-adventure myself. I can do nothing but charge, but I do charge well.
This character should be a pixie for the improved mobility of altitude limit 1 flight, which is not actually as limited as it seems. It would also help to shuffle around wealth (e.g. selecting and selling off rare items at 100% market price) to afford a Horned Helm and a Vanguard Weapon.
Well, that player is fairly new and keeps to the fundamentals, so that won't be a issue at all, thank you.
Recommendations? I'm thinking fortitude.
A runepriest is serviceable enough in a Strength/Wisdom build, though I would not call it on par with an Intelligence warlord or a Virtue of Cunning bard in the right party.
Strength/Constitution runepriests have the same issue as any other Strength/Constitution character: abysmal noncombat capacities and horrendous Reflex and Will. Strength/Wisdom is simply the better choice for a runepriest.
As for the wizard (bladesinger), give it Dexterity to Fortitude in place of Strength or Constitution and call it "Agile Conditioning." Give it actual daily attack powers as well; there is no reason at all for a bladesinger to be saddled with encounter attack powers as daily attack powers, particularly when they are not even compatible with bladespells.
The nova turn it can do with dread smite is a bit better than Warlock I think.
Besides, it doesn't have to be better, being on par with some of the most optimized chargers is pretty stupid already.
Also, virtuous strike can become arcane, and in Paragon that means you can grab white lotus riposte which is pretty great.
>Recommendations? I'm thinking fortitude.
I think having a bad Will on a wizard is weird so I'd lean that way.
>The nova turn it can do with dread smite is a bit better than Warlock I think.
A bit better, yes. I believe I had posted such a build in these threads some time ago: archive.4plebs.org
I had used Valorous Smite instead of Dread Smite in order for the character to serve as an off-defender.
>Also, virtuous strike can become arcane, and in Paragon that means you can grab white lotus riposte which is pretty great.
On the other hand, Eldritch Strike is arcane by default.
>I think having a bad Will on a wizard is weird so I'd lean that way.
The wizard (bladesinger) already has +2 Will, and the iconic bladesinger race, eladrin, has +1 Will and a bonus to saving throws against charm effects. The bladesinger could use Fortitude more than Will.
>The nova turn it can do with dread smite is a bit better than Warlock I think.
Oh, and I almost forgot, it got the rain of hammers Ki focus.
Which just makes things very dead (albeit once a day, unless you have a friendly Artificer around).
Yeah, I remember that thread.
I bet there's some other optimization tricks you could do with virtuous I'm not thinking of (on top of the off defending). As well as the revenant.