Ramucap Excavator 2G Creature - Naga Cleric You may play land cards from your graveyard. 2/3
Wildfire Eternal 3R Creature - Zombie Jackal Cleric Afflict 4 (Whenever this creature becomes blocked, defending player loses 4 life) Whenever ~ attacks and isn't blocked, you may cast an instant or sorcery card from your hand without paying its mana cost. 1/4
Connor Phillips
And that
Abrade 1R Instant Choose one - *Abrade deals 3 damage to target creature. *Destroy target artifact.
Probably What is worth 2W more than a 1/1 double striker for 1W?
Levi Hernandez
for 3WW, I'm going to assume something like: >whenever this creature dies, at the beginning of your next endstep, return it to play
Wyatt Reyes
Return creature from graveyard to field. Doesn't exile the next time it is destroyed. Only as a sorcery
My guess
Jason Bell
My bet it is Embalm and +1/+1
Ayden Ortiz
>Megamorph all over again Please no
Elijah Collins
Crucible of Worlds on a Snek. Yeah okay.
Dylan Baker
*bestow
Henry Collins
except it's a Naga not a Snake. yeah it looks like a snake, should have been a snake, but WotC decided to create the Naga type because fuck people who want to build snake tribal amirite
cunts
Cooper Smith
A playable card vs. Vehicles decks. Thank god
Angel Bell
Fuck yeah that snek!
Eli Thomas
Will Crucible go down in price?
Samuel Perry
Nope. Price memory and crucible is still needed for decks that lack green.
Crucible is harder to remove as well.
Caleb Powell
SNEK 2 STRONG
Nathan Hughes
What decks runs Crucible that isn't also green?
Chase Ortiz
Based on no information at all, embalm + indestructible
Jonathan Moore
Afflict sounds something the Eldrazi would have instead of Ingest.
Beautiful foil card, too bad I hate cats.
Carson Russell
Ok. Let's make a bet. >Embalm with counters >Embalm with indestructible >Reveal from hand, pay, create copy token >Embalm without exile >Bestow 2.0
Cameron Turner
Megamorph was long ago so I guess it won't be +1/+1 counters, besides it's a -1/-1 counters matter set.
My guess is Embalm with Indestructible.
Joseph Brooks
Embalm + Indestructible sounds most likely, honestly. Just by the name.
Jonathan Nelson
>Eternalize:
Create a token of the creature, but the token is indestructible and can't be removed from the game or sacrificed.
James Hernandez
but there's already a -1/-1 theme in amonkhet and HOU is all about the end of the world
maybe it makes someone indestructible? or unable to be exiled?
Mason Edwards
>can't be removed from the game or sacrificed 3strong5me
Jackson Foster
My bet is on: Exile it and at the beginning of your end step create a token that's a copy of it if you don't control a creature with that cards name.
Nathan Stewart
Honestly, I think that Eternalize is either "cast from graveyard," or it's "return to your hand from the graveyard." Making the creature indistructable wouldn't be very interesting, and it would cause game-memory problems.
Plus, the idea of being able to cast a card again and again, Eternally, seems very thematic to me. From the snek, we know that there's gonna be an anti-bolas faction who've probably been surviving in the desert somehow, and Eternalize seems like the anti Embalm to me.
Ian Nguyen
5 mana 1/1 double strike
its ok
Aiden Harris
>cat with eternalize is white >drop him >keep dropping wipes I don't think so.
Gavin Foster
>paw is resting on the Type bar Adorned Pouncer is cute. CUTE!
Landon Ross
which is why it makes more sense that it's just Bestow but from the graveyard
Ryan Rivera
that cannot be removed from the game by any means. it's not ok.
William Edwards
>opponent drops his cat
cats block themselves forever
Just pacify it bro :ˆ)
Gavin Rodriguez
Lets compare it to another 5 mana indestructible hexproof cat...
David Morgan
I destroy your Pacifism. What now?
Matthew Sanchez
It's a keyword, that means there will be more than 1 card with it More than one completely unremovable card is not okay
Dylan Johnson
4/4 Indestructible hexproof
Im fine with that
Connor Rivera
>drop cat >wipe >token >mld I hope you have a vedalken orrery.
Anthony Wright
Which means that Eternalize is gonna be something significantly better than just "embalm with indestructible."
I also doubt that they'd have "this creature is a perfect blocker" as a mechanic in creatures: the tappening. Then again, they do have a mechanic based on being blocked...
Jordan Wilson
It's also two colors. My bet is simply on sorcery speed return to the battlefield no strings attached.
Wyatt Rogers
Eternalize:
5 mana: Create a token that's a copy of the creature from your graveyard. But doesn't exile the card after being Eternalized so you can do it forever.
Sorcery speed of course.
So it's basically Embalm but can be done indefinetely
Zachary Phillips
>t's also two colors your point being...
Logan Perez
Alright, seriously. Why doesnt wotc learn from the past? Why print cards with very likely potential to bite them in the ass? Im talking about the Eternal here. Havent they learned anything from cheating mana costs being potentially degenerate. I mean, they just banned marvel for chrissakes.
Crucible of snek is pretty cool tho.
Ryan Wright
Harder to cast than mono color, so it's justified being better than a similar mono colored card
Oliver Johnson
Is this bait? Wildfire Eternal is barely comparable with Marvel.
Connor Rodriguez
there is going to be some INTENSE graveyard hate if you're right
Landon Powell
Im not saying its on the same powerlevel. Only that wotc is playing with fire when theyve gotten burned so many times
Colton Carter
>harder to cast maybe if it was three colours like siege rhino, you'd have a point, but with how many dual-lands are printed every block, 2-colour cards are more often than not just as easy to cast as mono-colour cards.
Christopher Gray
Eternal is fine. It's a creature, it doesn't have haste, it needs to connect, and it's limited to instants and sorceries. pic related. He also cheats things into play yet sees zero constructed play.
Levi Fisher
tfw people thinking that creating indestructible or endless tokens on a fucking KEYWORD is a real possibility. Don your limited glasses ffs. For the same reason it won't be +1/+1 counters because we already have -1/-1 in the environment.
There is one real possibility: as embalm but creates 2 tokens. Maro loves doubling. 3WW for 2 1/1 doublestrikers on a flashback sounds in the ballpark. Trigger annointed priest twice.
Adrian Cox
>people actually think this keyword will involve indestructiblity or better
You are all retarded. They would not do this to limited
Christian Harris
>There is one real possibility: as embalm but creates 2 tokens. has nothing to do with the actual name of the keyword
Liam Bennett
My guess is on it being cast as an Aura from the GY.
Grayson Jones
Anyone who plays in a meta with MLD and non basic land hate.
Eli Hill
I get why it was named that for reprintability purposes, but I want it to be called Inshatterate in my heart.
Sebastian Smith
Lots of edh decks
Jackson Walker
Would be pretty funny but would be hell for the translators.
Oliver Campbell
There better be some Retrace cards in this set!
Possibly the best burn Red can have under Modern design space.
Fine too.
Cooper Baker
It's not really burn if it doesn't hit the opponent.
Nathan Anderson
What's the point in having this is when they just banned Marvel?
>Select all squares with vehicles.
Right.
Jace Sanchez
Maro hates retrace because he thinks putting a mechanic on a bunch of overcosted shitcards means the mechanic is shit.
Ayden Lopez
That's a legit objection. Although megamorph was not that mega either so...
Other things I can think about:
Embalm without exile but you have to discard a land as an additional cost. ------ (here be things that are likely too complex for modern RnD taste) Creating aura tokens a-la reverse bestow. Exile to give all abilities of (this) to all your creatures until EOT
Gabriel Myers
Exactly. Would it fucking kill them to put 'or player' on a fucking rare?
Joseph Thompson
is it rare or a promo uncommon
Asher Cooper
Yes it would. MaRo would literally shrivel up and die.
Luis Rogers
>on a fucking rare
It's not a rare tho, it's just an uncommon.
Ryan Anderson
>Create a token of the creature, but the token is indestructible and can't be removed from the game or sacrificed.
Give me a 1/1 G creature with "Eternalize: G"
Gavin Perry
If it said player, it would be a literal better Lightning Strike: exact same cost and more versatile, so I see why they didn't do that.
Ryder Allen
It's a game day participation promo. It has the holofoil stamp but it's an uncommon.
Grayson Ortiz
>I can see why they didn't make a better version of a card that isn't particularly good user, I don't want to be the one to tell you this, but Wizards have printed strictly better Grizzly Bears without breaking the game.
John Wilson
>another burn spell that can't target players
Jason Morgan
Options, if they have vehicles, rip, else just a kill spell
Jeremiah Lee
Well seeing as the amonkhet promos were uncommon and rare on both, I assume the same.
Joshua Ross
>"Kill spell" >3 damage for 2 mana >Can't target players It's a Brave New World out there.
Camden Campbell
>what is lightning bolt >what is incinerate
Also Lightning Strike is just a better Volcanic Hammer, should it have never been printed?
Robert Rodriguez
>marvel caring about "destroy target artifact"
Jonathan Mitchell
not the same as 'RnD thinking that destroy target artifact on everything would hurt marvel decks'
Daniel Cook
>R&D thought legendary was a downside on an artifact with an activated ability and a death trigger It actually is just Skullclamp all over again.
Dominic Anderson
I thought it was pretty hilarious
>be playing my friends marvel deck at a tournament >windmill slam that turn 4 marvel with enough energy >opponent smugly slams his main deck Dissenter's Deliverance and feels like a hotshot >"you know I have priority on my activation right?" >"oh" >cast ulamog >opponent scoops
Evan Rogers
I don't think endless tokens is actually out of the question, I get that it would be good in limited but a little bit of common gy hate would deal with it pretty well, as it is, endless 1/1 double strikers that come out 1 at a time for 5 mana each doesn't actually seem that strong in limited, though I can see how as a keyword, there's a good chance one variation would end up broken in limited
Eli Nguyen
You can even give them priority and activate in response, I'd imagine. Incase you hit another Marvel or counterspell. But yeah, Ulamog is gg either way.
Nathaniel Scott
Priority literally does not matter anyway unless your opponent is cheating and has Krosan Grip. And "priority on activation" actually means nothing. It's just some words that don't fit together.
Sebastian Flores
Also, inb4 landwhales paint their nails green and purple and post pictures in cat ears. *meow Ima CAT and magic cosplayer* (sound of chairs breaking)
Henry Ortiz
>And "priority on activation" actually means nothing. It's just some words that don't fit together.
He meant that he retains priority after casting Marvel and can activate it immediately. But you are right that it does not matter much.
Caleb Clark
I,didn't say it was right or good design or drinking MaRos cum . I was just saying why they didn't print "creature or player".
Noah Wilson
They should have printed a Grave Peril for artifacts Something like:
1R Enchantment When a nonland, nontoken artifact enters the battlefield, sacrifice ~. If you do, destroy that artifact.
Though Marvel decks could still get around it with Puzzleknot... Anyway, I'd still like to see a card like this printed.
Bentley Reyes
Still doesn't do it, do you even know how the game works?
Adam Gomez
>It's a Brave New World out there. >heroes finale Holy kek
Nathan Ross
Black dealing with non-creature artifacts (with the exception of vehicles) is always going to be a hard no. Same with enchantments.
Liam Hall
Well yeah I realize now that they can simply activate Marvel in response. The idea for the artifact Grave Peril came to me one of these days and this thread just seemed like an excuse to post it.
Liam Hughes
Your grand idea was to take an existing card and change the type it affected? Nigger god damn.
Carson Thompson
I did make it Red though.
Adam Walker
Marvel should've cost 1 or 2 more and cost 1 or 2 more energy to activate. We can imagine doing more effective artifact hate over and over (annul with cycling? 2/2 stony silence?) but the real issue is that Marvel was pushed too hard.
His custom card is red though, not black
Gavin Wright
Never claimed it was an original idea. I legitimately just looked at Grave Peril and thought "hey, it would be neat if there was an artifact version of this".
Sebastian Turner
I've seen it in some Eldrazi Tron sideboards so they can keep getting back their GQs.
Jack Morgan
So what you're saying is, the format needs (or needed) Krosan Grip?
Daniel Cooper
>Marvel resolves >Heh, nice try kid, I'll Krosan Grip i- >PRIORITY MUHFUGGAH, IMA SPIN THAT SHIT LIKE A MUHFUCKIN BEYBLAAAAADDEEEE