Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

What's this, the third time you've posted this shitty pasta?

Brief reminder that anyone who says mythic is rocket tag has never actually played mythic beyond tier 1.

I'm only spreading the truth.

By responding, you just made yourself look even more fucking retarded.

My vigilante players killed every single source of information they ever came into contact with and made the city into a martial law zone with a ruler who had no hope and no heirs.

I'm sorry the truth hurts you so much, user.

>Don't tempt fate
>THE ROLL GETS HIGHER

Prophetic.

Fluffy tails for sure

The roll gets higher... at a -3 penalty.

I haven't even applied to Ensoulment, I just wish you'd apply yourself to something other than shitposting

Is this the power of a celebrity?

Isn't this the natural outcome of running a game at level 1?

It ain't called Rusty Dagger Shanktown for nothing.

I spent an entire campaign trying to get my character killed off because I was too much of a bitch to ask to leave when I realized that I hated the game. The DM was bad in the way that he gives players anything they ask for and we were constantly ahead in WPL, and my own building tendencies kept my character fairly optimized.

I threw myself into reckless encounters again and again and always made it through. My character got a reputation in and out of game for being a massive badass, but I was the only one in the group with the system mastery to understand that the feats weren't actually that impressive mechanically so it only made me more frustrated.

When I finally found a situation where I could believably die and couldn't be rescued out of, I tried to bow out too politely and ended up getting brought back with some poor homebrew undead template that to no surprise, made me effectively unkillable.

I ended up playing the bad campaign to completion. My character is now a god of war in the DM's homebrew setting. I haven't gone back to see how that went.

It still enrages me to recall the campaign, but I was once in a PbP where everyone started to pair off with love interests, and another player "stole" mine because he's online all day roleplaying out their developing relationship while I'm resigned to posting in the evenings. I was literally outperformed like I'm some dweeby white guy and he's the big buff Tyrone. I developed a distinct disgust towards PbP and cuckoldry porn after that.

I think the particularly bad luck is whats being showcased

So is 'alchemist' just a codeword for 'transformation fetishist' in that series or something?

Are you me? I've been in that exact situation before, where you yearn for the sweet shears of the Fates to cut your mortal coil, but your damn thread's golden and you refuse to die. I hate it. I hate it I hate it I hate it. It was a campaign with a fire gnome. An alchemist fire gnome, played by a 16 year old hyper-caffeinated kid who did the Gnome voice and threw bombs AT MY CHARACTER because he knew I could take an explosion. A campaign where the DM had what amounted to the finger of god smashing my character into the ground because he wanted to see if he could topple "the mighty user" and, when it did, he pussied out and said I was merely wounded, not dead.

What's with new players/DMs and wanting to become gods, anyway? First thing someone says when you first ask them where you want the character to end up, and it's almost always "I wanna become a god!"

I'm glad someone gets it. No one likes to die to a scythe crit, but the game isn't worth playing without risks. Gotta earn your victories, no good having a DM who hands you glory and waifus.

>What's with new players/DMs and wanting to become gods, anyway?
And this. I think everyone else I was playing with was aiming to become a god, but my most common character goal is to meet their calling then settle down with a family.

My poor character will never have peace in death now, I know for a fact that he's fighting battles in eternity. Game was shit but I did enjoy the character once I got him down, it feels bad knowing he'll always be tortured.

Rolled 8, 15, 4, 6, 17, 6, 15, 5, 7, 5, 13, 9, 10, 5, 15, 11, 13, 18, 5, 6 = 193 (20d21)

Let's roll ships for Journey to the West!

1 (M) Yamaguchi Yuudai
2 (F) Língmèng Qīng
3 (F) Tsubaki Higashiyama
4 (F) Yumiko Ryuikiatsu
5 (M) Koji
6 (F) Mira "Mia" Covinus
7 (M) Jun Fan
8 (M) Wen Yijun
9 (F) Shosouga no Kazuki
10 (F) Yin Xue Hua
11 (F) Bai Santaizi
12 (M) Loke Laufey
13 (F?) Huan Shuang
14 (M) Raimi
15 (F) Naomi Tsubaki
16 (F) The Red Maiden
17 (M) Serizawa Gin
18 (F) Seong Jimin
19 (M) Rú Qiáo
20 (F) Morisaki Kazu

How many of these are meme/joke apps, or by people that can't make schedule?

>finishing up a character with the little fluffy/hobby bits, while also buying stuff for his hobby
I just bought 3 journals and a ceremonial tea set so my character will have a hobby. What kind of hobbies do you guys give to your characters?

>(F?)

It's time to stop

>4, 6 (Yumiko, Mira)
>17, 6 (Gin, Mira)
>5, 6 (Koji, Mira)
>15, 5 (Naomi, Koji)
>7, 5 (Jun, Koji)
>10, 5 (Yin, Koji)

Well, lucky user, the only meme apps in there are Wist's (Serizawa Gin), Sleep's, (Jun Fan), Succ's (Raimi), and potentially Sappy's (Yumiko). Those are the only ones I know of for certain that are meme/joke apps.

Please remove Jun Fan, I won't even be able to play him if I was accepted.

What sort of rewards have your characters reaped, /pgg/?

Death.

The daughter of the captain of a ship he raided. She hated him at first for the whole "killing my dad" bit, but she eventually warmed up to him after a couple kids and him treating her well.

So were you a viking, or what?

Inexperience with any system will invariably lead to the misinformed thinking that the highest possible outcome is what they should shoot for. It's the same kind of mentality, I find, that ends up spawning minmaxers, as reality crashes down upon those who set their sights too high and ended up paying the price for it, then vowing that would never happen again by squeezing every last bit of power mastery over the system they can manage.

Ultimately this ends with the kind of people you'll see here sometimes who think that playing anything other than a Wizard at high levels is just a trash concept begging for your party to get killed, as well as slamming those who want to take more flavorful or just silly options in their character designs and telling them that they're just going to be a liability.

All the other joke apps are still included.
Don't worry about it, Sleep.

The idea you can get away with choosing worse options just for flavor is one steeped in ill-placed faith in Paizo's design standards.

It's one thing to choose an option that isn't the best, for the sake of flavor.
It's a whole other thing to choose a cool-looking option that's actually BAD.

What did I miss regarding Starfinder?

Any new deities or aliens to befriend?

New weapons that allow me to replicate XCOM?

Pretty much, he was an Ulfen getting his raid on a particularly wealthy Nidalese ship making a break for Kintargo. The daughter turned out to be quite the catch, a skinny little black-haired thing with incredible eyesight and keen understanding of all things horses. My character was obsessed with her, some claim it was because she spoke the Shadow tongue in his ear while in bed, but it ended with quite a few kids in the epilogue and her getting a purebred Nidalese Chiardmar (essentially a thoroughbred, canonically the greatest "mundane" breed you can get.)

>tfw level 5
>tfw 99 HP
I just need one more. God dammit.

My cleric has a crush on the charismatic paladin. They've been traveling together for months now, and she's always very protective of her. The paladin asks her opinion of what the party should do despite Cleric being a quiet person, she asks to join hands in prayer despite the cleric being content just sitting alone in her thoughts and daily prayers.
To the paladin, who is used to being around people and being gregarious and social this all seems normal, but to the cleric, who grew up with few friends and spent a lot of time in quiet study alone reading about Sarenrae, all this social interaction is pretty overwhelming. Especially from someone so strong, and brave, and heroic, and so pretty...

Fast forward some more months, they're really good friends, share a deep connection in shared religion and shared Neutral/Lawful Goodness, Paladin saves Cleric a ton, one time Cleric gets to save Paladin just like in the movies, the whole nine yards. Very big sister little sister relationship.

Cleric can't take it any more, one night she just gushes it all out, that she admires her as more than a friend, that she values more than just their adventures and prayers together, and that she's been in love with her for months.

Paladin is straight.

feelsbadman just like real life

That's when you take the old-old-oldfashioned route:

Set your kids up with each-other before they're even born.

explain this level of HP, user. I was level 8 before I got 99 HP.

Let me put it like this, as far as I'm aware nobody in this thread in their right mind would suggest to anyone else that they should take the Possessed Hand feat tree, even though it provides tons of hilarious flavor as well as some neat and unique mechanical benefits, because they'll say that the concentration penalty to casters is too steep and if you're not two-handing a weapon as a melee combatant to get 150% Str damage you're basically a liability.

Stuff like this is what I'm talking about, personally I'd LOVE to play a game where either I or one of my friends had this feat chain, but the player arms race of needing to climb ever higher in power level is at least part of what janked the CR scale to begin with in my opinion.

Just retrain one of your FCB points into HP user, there's no way at level 5 you're at that number and haven't reinvested it elsewhere at some point.

That's exactly a problem with Paizo - they can't make fun options without attaching penalties or hidden costs that make them nonviable.

People don't avoid it because they don't care about fun, they avoid it because it's a meme/selfish move to pick a silly option that makes you contribute less to the party when it's a team game.

I don't know what this thread is about but fuck whoever designed that lamia. What was the fucking point of giving her legs?

Tonight on Legacy of Blood and Flame: Shanan disrobes in front of Essa! Aida falls victim to tentacles! And Kassim sticks his long, sharp knife deep into some tender meat!

For those who came in late, our heroes are:
>Aida Sulqet (CN female Catfolk Soulknife): An enslaved cheetah-woman driven to crime by poverty, and to Kelmarayn by the promise of freedom!
>Essa Nazari (CN female Ifrit Fighter): A brash young sword-slinger driven to uncover the truth of Kelmarayn’s fall and save an impoverished batch of orphans!
>Gamze bint-Samiri (LG female Human Witch): A shy, card-reading city girl on the trail of her probably-sister!
>Iolanthe Thuphednai Nulhrihlis (LG female Elf Soulknife): A motherly merchant fallen on hard times, following what she claims to be heaven-sent visions toward a new adventure!
>Orlan Istran (NG male Human Warder): A common-born foreigner with big dreams and empty pockets, eager to carve his name into the annals of Katapeshi history!
>Shanan al-Kelmarayn (NG male Human Swashbuckler): A brothel-raised Sarenite swordsman from the mean streets of Okeno!

In their attempts to clear out a fort fulla gnolls, they're also accompanied by Kassim, a gnoll-hunter by trade still getting over a case of Stockholm Syndrome developed after years of being a gnoll tribe's slave.

You missed the part where you're not allowed to meet cute psychic monsters.

Pretty unexpected, but they're going pretty hardline on it.

>The group is healing up and waiting for Shanan to come around from his fainting spell
>Essa shares some coffee around, and busies herself keeping her hare familiar from drinking it
>Orlan doodles on Shanan's face
>Shanan and Essa go off on their own to take a dip
>Or more properly, for Shanan to take a dip and retrieve the treasure they spotted at the bottom of the fort's well
>Aida wanders off down a staircase
>Starts hearing sloppy, ravenous eating from both ends of a T-intersection
>Heads towards a doorway and runs right into a giant mushroom that starts to scream horribly
>Orlan rushes down to join the battle
>The big purple mushroom lashes Aida and Orlan with its tentacles, and the flesh around Aida's wound starts to rot away!
>Orlan splatters the thing in retaliation
>Meanwhile, Shanan retrieves a small soapstone salamander from the well, which is later discovered to create clean water every night
>Iolanthe goes to investigate another dark corridor
>Runs into a pair of ghouls eager to taste elf before their Captain demands her corpse for himself
>The rot inflicted on Aida's arm deters the PCs from heading deeper into the dungeon
>They elect instead to take out the gnolls above

>After emerging from a secret door into the ruined fort's interior, Iolanthe botches a Stealth check
>Essa quickly heads off a gnoll coming to investigate and throws him off the stairs leading up to the battlements
>The PCs start fighting against gnolls and their hyena pets
>The gnolls' pseudo-shamaness proves a tough opponent, smiting Shanan with a grievous blow and taking the combined assault of almost the entire party to take her down
>Essa takes potshots into the courtyard after disarming, brutalizing, and demoralizing the remaining sentry on the battlements
>Kassim has by now rushed the fort and started hacking apart any gnoll he can get to
>Takes special care to tackle one particular gnoll, hacking away at its leg and echoing the question it taunted him with
>"Hey, 'brother'--how's the leg? How's the leg, fucker!?"
>Once the PCs manage to clear the courtyard, Essa takes her captive into custody and ties him up.
>Kassim executes the gnoll shamaness after having a quick back-and-forth with her in her language (and slicing off her ears to thread onto his necklace of gnoll fangs)
>The PCs investigate the shamaness' room, and almost resolve to burn what they find when they see prayers to Lamashtu scrawled in blood all over the walls
>Between the PCs and Kassim, they put together that the leucrotta in the underground levels of the fort was somehow manipulating the gnolls above by pretending to be Lamashtu's voice
>The PCs vote to stay at the fort and rest up, heal their ability damage, and then clear the rest of the dungeon--can't have ghouls about when they try to resettle Kelmarayn, after all

>brutally and violently murdering gnolls
>HOW'S THE LEG, FUCKER
10/10, famalam.

How do I justify making a character with the Touched by Divinity who doesn't worship the deity in question?

The deity literally came and touched that nigga.

Make them an unwitting/unwilling but fated champion. I played in a game were neutral deity aligned paladins were referred to as eternal champions who protected the Cosmic Balance, very heavily borrowed from Moorecock's work obviously, and you can work that into a character at least once in a group without it getting too cliche.

How do I into custom tokens for roll20?

touched does not mean you liked it.
It means that in some way, some how, your existence is a piece that deity has moved.

You don't have to be working for that deity; they could have simply made sure you'll be in the right/wrong place at the right/wrong time. Perhaps because that was the least effort required to save something actually important to them.

You may not be a cleric; you may be the proverbial stone some goblin trips on on his way to having otherwise stabbed that cleric in the neck.

Literally touched the guy user, its not hard at all.

But here's the thing, it's not JUST a team game, it's not JUST a stats game, it's also a storytelling game, with everything that that implies. Only ever taking one out of a preselected group of "correct choices" leads to stagnation, especially when doing such a thing isn't really all that warranted because your DM isn't looking to play a wargame like some general 150 years ago with one of those big tables and those sticks.

Continuing my example, as both a player and a GM I can see a great deal of benefit in having a character with a hand that can wake you from a sleep spell, and the Insight bonuses (quite a rare bonus to get AFAIK too) it grants are nothing to joke about either. Not to mention it basically has its own initiative it goes on at the same time as yours that can do any number of things to assist you such as grabbing items, popping you a potion, or drag you away from a threat if you're unconcious as a full-round action.

Both mechanically and thematically I can see numerous ways to work this as a character but "muh Improved Initiative" will always win out in the end to powergamers because you've ground down the potential builds in this game to such a science, and all so a level 5 character can solo a CR 5 monster in like, 2 rounds instead of 4 or 5 with allies like how the system is supposed to work.

>show us on the doll where the bad goddess touched you...

Just because you're influenced by them doesn't mean you have to believe them. You've got weird dreams of settling down, having a family, and tilling the land, but you're a pirate scum mercenary that doesn't want any of that; fuckin' Erastil touching you in the head with his weird-ass elk horns.

Were you a veteran of the psychic wars?

Works for me. Plus, i also kinda works due to the character being originally raised among more uncivilized people before being taken in by the Order of the Godclaw

Plus I can fluff it as being Ragathiel's fault for him having Bloodrager powers to begin with

Couple greentexts ago had the gnolls asking the guy with a limp "How's the leg, Trash?"

It's edgy, but not really out of character.

>Shanan disrobes in front of Essa!
Shanan X Essa confirmed?

And here's the guy who didn't read the greentexts.

Just have him actually touch the guy one day when he is out doing a regular barbarian rage. It makes sense to me.

My GM is pulling some fucking bullshit on us.

We're being hunted through the woods by a troll lycanthrope. Is he just trying to fucking kill us and end the campaign because he's bored? We're only level 5 and I know the troll has class levels on top of being a werewolf.

I know it's an Ice Troll before anything else, but god damn.

That sounds pretty fucking neat desu

You're probably being herded somewhere and supposed to escape it. Just keep running and don't get caught.

According my GM it's:
>Ice Troll Werebear (not werewolf, I was wrong) Bloodrager 2 (Ice Elemental Bloodline)

It's been terrorizing a village we were trying to help. We went out to go hunt it back to it's cave. Couldn't find it, and got back to a slaughtered village. We're trying to get the survivors over the mountain to the actual city on the other side.

Dang.

Are there other cute, sort-of Psychic monsters I can encounter?

Honestly this sound like a pretty cool horror scenario

Still sounds like a threat you're supposed to outrun or escape rather than fight, but I don't know your GM. Has he put you up against this sort of shit before? Do you get the idea he wants to kill your characters, or just make them fear for their lives?

>mfw the cool undead abilities i'm getting

Argentum is a pretty fucking cool GM guys, gotta say.

So yeah, still waiting to see those logs posted for "The Demon Within Her"

Alright! I'm a thread late and a bit slow; but we got a bare-bones archetype here for this request! A bit uninspired, I'm afraid, but it meets the requirements! To handle the hair problem, I've put down some new discoveries for any alchemist to nab! Let me know what you think!

docs.google.com/document/d/14a3bZPwqqj4Zclwk08vdjKENz0jHbl4yjZ_OFNXex8k/edit?usp=sharing

Otherwise, I realize it's late at night and I won't be getting many requests, but if you have one, let me know and I'll do what I can for you!

Pic made me laugh harder than it should have.

Probably the worst one I ever had was where the ending got super rushed (Still not sure why, even now.) We were making some great developments, and really digging into the NPCs, and the setting, and the story, and then we just skipped through what felt like a quarter of it.

So for my JttW character he single handedly killed a Wyrm Underworld Dragon and reclaimed the soul of his lost love. They're CR 17, I think with a bit of luck a gestalt level 10 character can manage that.

I've been there. Had an enitre pre-established relationship worked out with someone before a game, end up getting cucked because someone applied with a big-bad wolf and, unbeknownst to me, she was a closeted furry.

I swore off doing established relationships except with friends because of that.

>asking for logs to be posted in a post GarethGate world
Are you fucking crazy?

That's still pretty unlikely. Remember that CRs go up exponentially, not linearly, in power level. A CR 17 dragon should be able to chew through a whole roomful of level 12 PCs.

So, how are laser guns in Starfinder? Still worse than bows?

we don't know, but probably

What character do you most want to see apply to JttW?

They go up to at least 3d10, just from the fuzzy images that have leaked so far.

For at least damage output I can one round the dragon.

But how are you going to get the dragon in melee range and remove its defensive buffs?

When someone attacks me or targets me with a spell I can teleport next to them.

Nothing personal kid

Was literally about to say
CR is also more than how hard the creature is to bring down under the best circumstances.

If you want to make it slightly more believable, through luck into the mix.

You still haven't answered the "defensive buffs" part of the equation.

PSSH
NOTHIN
PERSONAL
KID

>dragon uses breath weapon
>teleport next to dragon
>fall to your death

Which game is best for furfags?

I can also fly luckily.

>d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/dragons/dragon/imperial-underworld/underworld-dragon-wyrm/
Underworld Dragons actually are really light on the defense.

Undeniably the one that says 'fluffy tail'