Can I get a quick rundown on Rifts?

Does anyone use Rifts or other Palladium games to run tacticool operator games?

I noticed a lot of military/ex-mil guys like Palladium a lot.

I like thinking of Rifts as what you would get if you tried to create a setting where every 80s/90s action figure toyline was canonical.

>Palladium games to run tacticool operator
There's Ninjas & Superspies, which I've heard good things about. It's supposed to have some very well done rules for managing a ninja clan/spy agency.

And being a Palladium game, you can pretty effortlessly drag content from their other games into it without changing a whole lot. A friend of mine says he's been itching to do a S.H.I.E.L.D. game using that and Palladium's superheroes system, but scheduling another game's a real bitch for our group so that's been on the backburner for now.

Yeah that about describes it.

Funny, I'm working on a Heroes Unlimited thing right now, putting together every random chargen chart (official ones and some select fanmade ones, and making my own for stuff like Bionics and other gear-oriented OCCs) into one big document. One day I'm going to mail it to my players and tell them they have 24 hours to roll up something and bring it to the table.

It's a trainwreck of a system if you try to run it RAW, but by God it has some of the most fun character creation that spews out nothing but back-catalog Legion of Super Heroes members, who are all playable but all insane.

Yes, the randomized chargen is hella fun in Pally games.

Care to share your bionics chart?

>somesuch bullshit
That's an apt description of the entirety of Rifts.

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It's pretty great honestly and you don't have to do any of the weird rules porting. The secret to running any palladium game is to make up half of the rules as you go. Don't be afraid to change how things work because the game works best when run at high speed and looking up rules turns the combat in to a bigger drag than it does in any other game.

Yeah you can get some good results if you play palladium. Just restrict OCC's to what would be most appropriate and your game should run great.

Hey, there was a pic of a nice conversion of a SAMAS suit in the last Rifts thread that listed the parts used. Did anybody save that? I'd like to try something similar.

I'm interested in Rifts because it seems to be the only RPG that does mecha. Is the Savage Worlds version good for this?

fuck you, that's dino-riders!

No, the savage worlds version had no idea how to handle any of the hundreds of vehicles in the game so it pretty much just ignored them. Pretty pathetic honestly.

There's a Rifts D20 Modern conversion around somewhere that can handle everything, but then you're playing D20 Modern...

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Probably the worst problem with Rifts is that its layout is absolute shit. For example: I was in a Wormwood campaign as a Priest of Light, a class that, among other things, cannot be attacked by a certain enemy (worm zombies). When this came up, I had to look in three different places in the rulebook to find that rule, and the place where it was made the least amount of sense.

This. Rifts is already so unbalanced that it doesn't matter if someone gets the wrong +3 bonus or -1d6 damage penalty to some roll. It doesn't matter. You'll be rolling fistfulls of dice that have no bearing on reality anyway.

That's what happens when you cut-and-paste text blocks for physical press printing rather than using layout software on one of them new-fangled computator thingies that Kevin's heard so much about.

Yes, it is. Don't listen to He's being a fucking idiot. Savage Rifts has had three books come out so far, instead of the dozens of books that Classic Rifts has. You're not going to get the same amount of gear porn, but Savage Rifts has an advantage in that there are actual rules for creating your own mechs and vehicles in the Savage Worlds Sci-Fi Companion.

At least they finally started using computer layout. It only took them until like 2010 or so. Unfortunately, they also discovered Poser at the same time, and a bunch of their covers are shitty half-finished CG instead of decent art.

I tried the same thing about a year about but those books are almost impenetrable

Rifts is weird in that the shitty rules are part of the charm. Savage Worlds has a functional port, but it's like having the monster in a Kaiju movie be CG, yeah it looks better but the crappy costume is part of the genres charm.

>Stockholm Syndrome: Shitty Rules Edition.

>doing this much desperate damage control for shitvag worlds
Nice.

Here's the rough draft of it. I'm working my way though all the OCC's (fuck Special Training being 4 different types of heroes in one chapter), then I'll go back and edit, but you should be able to follow this one.

Imho Rifts is a loveable clusterfuck. It's a great source to crib from but I certainly wouldn't run the setting as is

Honestly I'd like to run the setting, just start from what's written and work out what would happen logically.

What would happen is the Coalition takes over the world, because they have a bigger airforce than the USA, and thousands of mechs besides.

>muh random technology
>infinite demons n aliens n magic n shit
Nah I think I'll go with stay in your bunker or you gonna get booty blasted

Yeah, Savage Rifts works a lot better than original Rifts. Having said that, given the wildly different power levels, Rifts of any version is a challenge to run,

Yeah I totally agree I love when the action gets tough and things are tense and I can just slap down a benny and be like let's all chill out I got this, I've been saving my points all game.

Oh dude me too nothing kicks up the drama and the action like spending a hot benny right when things start getting intense. Great way to cool off!

I gotta say Savage Rifts is my FAVORITE new game. I'm so glad I supported it, it's essentially the best game I've ever played or read, tons of drama every session. So much drama! I love it. What's your favorite Savage Rifts character guys?

Oh man it's great to see some other Savage Rifts fans, this is just awesome, really makes me want to play some Savage Rifts! Tell us about your Savage Rifts games guys!

Me too! I love the way Bennies work in Savage Rifts, they really add a ton of unique drama to every session. My favorite Savage Rifts character is definitely the Juicer, having to choose when to use your Bennies and your Juicer Burn really just cranks the drama up to 11 every single session!

I completely agree, the interaction between the multiple awesome Characters in Savage Rifts really gets dramatic when Bennies start flying around the table! Some of my favorite Savage Rifts Characters have made it through a ton of really dramatic and awesome adventures by using Bennies in a really dramatic and awesome way. Savage Rifts is really the best game I've ever played!

I feel like I must have spent a Benny to meet so many other great people who love a good adventure filled with drama! Wow, I didn't know the Savage Rifts community was so active! I'll have to spend another Benny on telling some friends that now's the time to get into Savage Rifts!

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FUCK YEAH SWEET PIC MAN that's worth a Benny in and of itself

>rifts thread
>taken over by shitposting

I just want to talk about skull walkers.

Veeky Forums only talks about D&D, WH40K, MtG and how quests were the cancer killing Veeky Forums while blatant troll threads consistently reach bump limit.

>There's a Savage Rifts version that just came out recently which has much better rules.

Lies. Everybody knows that if you try to run RIFTS in another system Kevin Siembieda will personally warp to your house to beat you to death with the master universe bible for RIFTS.

There, there, I feel your pain. Carbon flesh-bag with only 2 legs.

Anyone have the art of the "modernized" skullwalker running in a terrifying manner?

What, this one?

The setting jumped the shark around Worldbook 3.

It's just one guy. He'll get sick of it if we ignore him.

Triax/NGR was good (book 5).

But yeah, generally, I agree.

Pinnacle managed to create a warding circle against KevS out of money. Savage Rifts is therefore safe.

Warlords of Russia was cool, but they both had the problem that they were too focused on the dynamics of the local power structures.

This one?

If only that money would be used to finish fucking Robotech Tactics instead of for trips to Thailand for underage tranny hookers.

You get occasional gold among the dross after Book 3, like Federation of Magic and Wormwood. But for the most part, Rifts books become a slog of gear porn and new classes instead of actual setting information.

I think everyone just needs to accept that RTT is never getting finished, and the only decent things to come out of Palladium for the foreseeable future will be them licensing out their IP to other companies who are better at management and production.

The trolling of the Rifts boardgame was a pretty good product. I don't think anyone was naive enough to think a project with most of the PB fulltimers on board was even remotely coming from an independent company. About the only one not working on it was our good buddy NMI

On the one hand, I really would have liked the Rifts board game to succeed, since I would really like some quality plastic Rifts minis. On the other, with the number of Palladium staffers working on the thing, there was approximately a 0% chance of it not being a clusterfuck.

Australia and Canada had some decent world info.

Post-apocalyptic RPG where holes in time and space opened, and everything poured through. The system is uses the basic system that they used for all their games, with the exception of megadamage. For some things, like mechs, you roll 1d6, and each point equals 100 points, so normals hit go splat. It was somewhat silly with some good ideas, and apparently very lucrative for them, as they released 80 books.

Holy crap! That IS true. I thought it was unconfirmed rumor, but sure enough....

Uncle Kev love the ladypenis (long time)

Check out the wikipedia article. It describes the various factions in the world.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifts_(role-playing_game)

I haven't seen anything that suggests that's anything but slander, so if you have a link so something substantiated I'd appreciate it. I'm always looking for more reasons to hate Kev, but I'd like them to be honest reasons to hate him.

>South American vampire lords
Is this a Jojo reference?

>NMI detected

Probably not. The vampires in Rifts aren't really anything like the JoJo vampires, though the Palladium folks like anime enough that it might be a minor one.

In my opinion Rifts goes for the over-the-top post-apocalypse fantasy world with no reservations at all.

And then proceeds to do absolutely nothing interesting with it, just reusing ideas and tropes from other things.

This week's weekly spam had some interesting stuff from old Kevvy. It looks like he might be pulling back further from the company than he initially let on.

A business manager, ebooks, social media presence and a podcast?!? Wow, it's like Kevin is finally dragging Palladium into the 2010s.

Somebody check on him at Origins and see if there's somebody holding a gun to his head.

But the way I usually check if people at Origins have guns to their heads is if they're interacting with KevS.

>MAGIC MUSLIMS & CYBER-TERRORISTS YO!
That sounds fun a fuck.
Make it cyber muslims and magic terrorists would be even better.

Palladium's writers didn't start directly ripping off jojo's until recent rifters introduced a stand-user O.C.C..
So it's either a happy little coincidence or someone hearing something from somebody else which happened to involve "South american vampires" which made an early writer go "Cool!" without looking more into it.

Because as said, rifts vampire lords are nothing like jojo vampires.