Octarius war still ongoing

>Achaosi Abeastmeni

Actually they're just called gors now.
Only name change they got is Minotaurs -> bullgors

More like Ghazz and Swarmlord held off all those guys until they bitched out and left in the warpstorm without killing anyone of note. Poor showing for Khorne considering pretty much every MVP is there including doombreed. Khorne jobbed to Tyranids and Orks HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

Considering they're all super valuable and can just fucking respawn as long as they have khorne's favor, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if one or two died.
Also like, I don't know if it's true, but I heard that the swarmlord also jobbed to the orks

I really would like to know what the hivemind is thinking about those orkz.

>How the fuck have the tyranids not figured out how to defeat Orks?
More keep pouring in from all over the galaxy to get rich.

>How have the Orks not reached Beast era levels due to all that constant fighting?
The ones that stick around too long keep getting killed before they can get too big.

Clearly they used Da Sekret Weapon.

>8 Exalted Bloodthirsters with 88 Cohorts of Daemons couldn't get to the Eternity Gate even after being spawned right outside the palace.
>Ka'Bandha, Kharn, Fucking Doombreed and Skarbrand couldn't beat Margaret Thatcher and her football hooligans, or the NPCs who couldn't eat the Blood Angels in the decade it would have taken Guilliman to reach Baal without the Astronomicon.
Khorne's just not having a good Noctis Aeterna huh?

No it's just one idiot who insists that swarmlord was on the planet when Ghaz wiped out all the tyranids of Octarius even though there is no evidence. OP picture is he first time we actually get evidence of swarmlord being present on the same battlefield as Ghaz

>So let me get this straight, Ghazzy beat

No. Ghaz and the Swarmlord, working together only managed to briefly stalemate a Blood Crusade. The Crusade then left to go fight the War in the Rift.

>chaos fags everyone

Enjoy never doing anything of consequence, so far all you've done is save the blood angels from getting completely nommed

>Grot Hordes: Lotz

Fuck I laffed

>How the fuck have the tyranids not figured out how to defeat Orks?
Who says they havn't realized that keeping the war going is an all you can eat buffet? Think about it, if the tyranids can manage to keep the war going and export bioships to other sectors, then this is a win win for them.

>Swarmy actually won an engagement
Not trying to steal the orks thunder here btw, its just I'm baffled Swarmy was actually allowed to be on the winning side of any conflict involving named characters.

>Ghaz wiped out all the tyranids of Octarius
wait what?

>Stalemate
>Win

>Chaosfag
>For not agreeing with an Orkfag misinterpreting the fluff

>Daemons left via warp storm

What's your point?

>wait what?
Ghazzy showed up to reinforce the boys on Octaria (actual name of the planet that's the core of the Ork Empire), killed a Malwoc after it tried to eat him, and the boyz on the planet proceeded to murder every single Tyranid on the planet and in orbit around at that time. (Source: WAAAGH! Ghazzy supplement) The claim being made about the Swarmlord (it's more than just 'one idiot', I've encountered several people irl who say this... and they were Tyranid players) is that since Swarmy was supposedly planetside during that time (due to showing up in 5e nid codex, despite not being mentioned in 6e), Swarmy got wiped out in that first wave of nids by unnamed Orks.

Leviathan went: 'Da fuq?' and threw several more tendrils at that planet just to be safe prior to the Great Rift shitting everything up.

when the attackers are unable to take anything and stalemate for a while before retreating thats called losing

>when the attackers are unable to take anything

The fight is the reward itself. They were surely able to reap a fearsome tally of blood and skulls.
And the "retreat" had nothing to with anything Ghazgkhul did.

>How have the Orks not reached Beast era levels due to all that constant fighting?
Oh, some of them probably are getting close at this point. I mean, Ghazzy's already got psyker powers 100 years ago (well, extreme long-range telepathy anyway), so it wouldn't be surprising if he came out extremely powerful once he leaves Octarius.

>Ghaz and the Swarmlord,
>Nids
>Allying with ANYONE
You are a really silly grot of user if you think this is what happened.

>Ghazzy beat Skarbrand, AND Doombreed, AND Karanak, AND Kharn
>while holding off nids headed (or formerly headed) by Swarmy
Pretty much. Ghazzy isn't the type to just go one-on-one with other opponents though. He only does it when he decides he absolutely needs to (and since Orks aren't really scared of daemons that much, the need isn't that high). That said, Skarbrand, Doombreed, Karanak and Kharn probably fought their their way through Thraka's boyz and THEN got krumped by the Prophet o' da Waaagh!

>I think at this point Knorne should just commit sudoku
Nah. Khorne's fully aware of what Orks are capable of (why do you think he keeps Tuska Daemon-killa in his front yard back in the Warp), which is why he threw 4 of his best champions at Octarius.

The war gods in the Warp (Gork, Mork, and Khorne) are having a blast right now. Khorne's probably just grumpy right now that he lost to Gork n' Mork AND the overrated human psyker on a golden toilet.

Thank God Chaos finally got to the Octarius War, I hated reading all this fluff about it and having to ask myself "Where's Chaos? These are just xenos everywhere" Now it's finally here!

>The fight is the reward itself. They were surely able to reap a fearsome tally of blood and skulls.
>And the "retreat" had nothing to with anything Ghazgkhul did.
So... the Khorne gits are using Ork logic to justify getting their asses handed to them by the greenskins and the extragalactic cockroaches.

Just accept that Chaos lost mate. It'll be less embarrassing that way.

>Just accept that Chaos lost mate.

It was explicitly a stalemate though.

You moronic cunts. The text of the Blood Crusades says that Blood Crusade invasions most of the time lasts a few hours before being drawn to the Warp to go to the next battle.

It's a interplanetary drive-by rather than a full blown invasion. All the Tyranids and Orks did was survive for a few hours before the Warp took back its own and threw them at another world.

Nobody lost. Khornates and Nid+Orks fought for a few hours with no victor and then the Khornates left for the next battle.

>You are a really silly grot of user if you think this is what happened.
Not him but read the text user. It says the combined armies of Ghaz and swarmy fought Khornes crusade to a standstill before they left. Ghaz isn't above allying with people or calling a ceasefire, and the swarmlord was smart enough to realize that not addressing the crusade first would result in the nice stalemate they have going on being endangered so he stopped focusing on the Orks for a bit. All those Khorne Khorne champions couldn't stop the Orks or Nids, embarrassing

>>Ghaz and the Swarmlord,
>>Nids
>>Allying with ANYONE

It says that the combined might of the Orks and Nids stalemated the Blood Crusade.
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You mean the largest concentration of Orks and Tyranids at the time managed to survive a Khornate drive-by for a few hours. It's not a big accomplishment.

>managed to survive a Khornate drive-by for a few hours
>Blood Crusades only last a few hours
the people of Armageddon would like a Word with you about that, because they're still getting fucked by Khorne's Blood Crusade right now.

>combined might of the Orks and Nids
It's more likely that Khorne's forces tried to attack both the Orks and Nids at once, and the two armies independently decided to crush the new arrivals instead of actually allying with each other.

Common goal/interest? Sure.
Actually allying with each other, especially in the case of the Nids (even WITH the Swarmlord helping out)? I just can't see it. There's the language barrier for one thing.

>the people of Armageddon would like a Word with you about that, because they're still getting fucked by Khorne's Blood Crusade right now.

Nope, a different and unrelated Khornate and Tzeentch force invaded Armageddon.

The Blood Crusade partially broke apart and most of it went to the Rift War.

Read the fluff, you piece of shit.

>the people of Armageddon would like a Word with you about that, because they're still getting fucked by Khorne's Blood Crusade right now.

That's not the Blood Crusade. That's Tzeentch and Khorne of the Rift War.

The fluff also mentions that some of the crusades lasted way longer and entire worlds and hive tendrils were destroyed. Out of thousands of battles, the crusade only met its match twice, and once was at Octarius. I'm willing to bet the other time was either a force led by G-man himself, Yrvainne-sue, or an allusion to one of the loyalist primarchs returned.

>Nope, a different and unrelated Khornate and Tzeentch force invaded Armageddon.

OH REALLY?

>"Since the warp rift tore through the heart of the galaxy, Armageddon has found itself directly in the path of The Blood Crusade, a vast legion of Khorne’s Daemons pouring into realspace."
warhammer-community.com/2017/04/29/new-warhammer-40000-war-zone-armageddon/

>Kharn
>Legend

>warhammer-community.com/2017/04/29/new-warhammer-40000-war-zone-armageddon/

They haven't arrived yet.

>hive tendrils

Hive Fleets where does it say it lasted longer?

Here is the fluff.

The Blood Crusade then went to the Rift War to settle things with the other forces of Chaos.

>They haven't arrived yet.
Someone clearly hasn't read the 8e fluff, because the Blood Crusade did arrive on Armageddon, and then Tzeentch's guys showed up and the two fought it out on Armageddon's surface, leaving half the planet looking like a daemon world when they werre done (doesn't say how long they were there but it'll probably be clarified in the future).

>Only twice has the Blood Crusade met its match
>Most engagements only last a few hours
>Most
Gee, I wonder which ones lasted longer than a few hours. Most likely the ones where they were having trouble slaughtering everything in sight.

Like the Octarius War.

>Someone clearly hasn't read the 8e fluff, because the Blood Crusade did arrive on Armageddon, and then Tzeentch's guys showed up and the two fought it out on Armageddon's surface, leaving half the planet looking like a daemon world when they werre done (doesn't say how long they were there but it'll probably be clarified in the future).

Nope, unrelated force. Post proof that it is the Blood Crusade because the text doesn't say it is.

>Gee, I wonder which ones lasted longer than a few hours.

Again, no proof.

>Most likely the ones where they were having trouble slaughtering everything in sight.

The Warp doesn't work like that. It draws back its followers at random.

>Post proof that it is the Blood Crusade because the text doesn't say it is.
>ignoring the fact that the link to the article on Warhammer Community explicitly says it's the Blood Crusade that was headed toward Armageddon
You are really, really dense user.

The amount of damage control going on right now is just fucking sad.

Armageddon is in its warpath but it doesn't say it arrived yet. The rulebooks say that the Blood Crusade is currently at the Rift War. Where is your proofs?

>thousands of battles In which Khornes forces BTFO everything in sight until the whole population was dead or the warp storms receded
>most only last a few hours
>most
>other see entire populations slain, indicating they lasted longer
>we already know some warp storms can last for far longer than a few hours
>only twice was the crusade stalemated
>once what at Octarius
>they deemed this important enough to get an entire force org chart and a write up

I dunno, they didn't outright state the crusade lasted more than a few hours but some did and this one was important enough to include here. Also, in most of those thousands of battles, they didn't have nearly this concentration of heroes present on one planet and they still rekt tomb worlds and forge worlds. Pretty much everyone except Angron and skulltaker are there and none of them managed to kill Ghaz or the swarmlord

So, anyone want to try to figure out just exactly how many individuals are in those unit listings? How big is a big mob? 1000 Orks? 1,000,000? How big is a legion supposed to be? How many grotz is lotz?

KHORNEFAGS BTFO
>b-but they didn't choose the destination!
>b-but the battle only lasted a few hours, maybe!
>b-but their numerous hosts were fighting a grand total of 2 armies!
>b-but it wasn't a loss, they just left the battlefield!
>b-but an unended battle is a victory in khorne's book!
>b-but this one battle wasn't achtually the important one anyway!

>How big is a big mob? 1000 Orks? 1,000,000?
Big Mobs are basically tons of Ork Warbands under one boss, so it could easily range from 1,000,000 to 100,000,000 if I had to guess.

There's a line from a 40k novel where one Space Marine points at a green patch on the surface of a planet and asks: "What's that? A forest?" To which the other replies: "That is the enemy." If memory serves that was a novel taking place on Armageddon, and there were enough boyz running around to be seen from orbit.

Octarius is an Ork-held world being contested by Swarmy and his Nids. The total number of Orks there right now has to be in the billions if not 10s of billions.

>Khorne dominates the Warzone
>Leaves for bigger and better wars
>NPCfags consider this to be a victory.

>Chaosfag trying to save face for the fact almost all of Khorne's special characters got BTFO'd by Ghazzy and Swarmy the Eternal Jobber
>implying Khorne didn't just get tired of losing and drag his champions off to fight against someone they CAN win against (Tzeentch)
Seriously, when the throne-damned SWARMLORD is on the winning side of a battle, you know fucked up bad.

>>Khorne dominates the Warzone
>>bigger and "better" warzones

>This is what carnac unironically believes

holy shit the memes are real

But they weren't winning.
Can NPCfags not actually read?

>Implying the Rift War isn't bigger and better than Octaria.

>a fearsome tally of blood and skulls.
Nid skulls and ichor dont count

Yes they do.

Khornates do not leave a battle unless something forcefully pulls them from battle. Khornate daemons NEVER ever retreat. This indicates that the battle lasted a few hours before the Warp pulled them out.

Khornates would not forsake such a bloodbath of a battle with opponents nearly as bloodthisty as they are, unless it was beyond their control.

Orkfags trying to make this a victory are funny. They survived, they didn't win. Survived against the First wave of the Blood Crusade. The galaxy has yet to see the second wave.

Ichor doesn't count according to one source but Khorne likes Nid skulls.

>Noxias
>Rottgrave
>Verminox

Are you fucking kidding me, GW?

>be Planetary Governor of a Hive World
>Blood Crusade shows up
>daemons and space marines and cultists everywhere
>massive riots as all the underhivers get riled up
>declare a state of emergency
>lock down all transit methods between the upper and middle hives
>have the Imperial Guard shoot anyone who tries to circumvent them
>by the time you've finished setting up they're already gone
>they've taken all the underhiver scum with them
>the hive actually runs better than it did before

Well done, Khorne, You really did a good job helping to destroy the Imperium of Man.

>Khorne sends pretty much all of his greatest champions to this war zone
>fails to break the stalemate
>fails to kill either Ghaz or swarmlord
>pulls out to fight nurgle nerds that he can actually beat
>Khornefags actually thinking they dominated anything

>K-Khorne didn't dominate
>So what if it took the Orks and Nid combined strength to merely match the Crusade's onslaught!

The War in the Rift featured the greatest daemons from all four sides with a battle of daemonic attrition of titanic scales.

The fight couldn't be resolved so the Chaos Gods had to do a duel of champs to settle it. This shows the Battle at the Rift was at a much grander scale. Of course it was. It was in the Warp.

Because Nurglites would never name anything like that?

>Yes they do.
read shadowbrink

>but Ka'bandha likes using Nid skulls for decorating blood angel moons.
FTFY

>read shadowbrink

Read Khorne Daemonkin.

>read shadowbrink

Read the Daemonkin codex. There are Khornate warbands that specialise in hunting Tyranid fleets and making offerings of them to Khorne. The daemon codex says that upon Khorne's Skull Throne rests the skulls of Tyranids whose size is that of entire buildings.

>Khornate daemons NEVER ever retreat. This indicates that the battle lasted a few hours before the Warp pulled them out.
>This indicates the battle lasted a few hours
>I have absolutely no proof of this claim and am clearly talking out of my ass
Khorne's boys came to Octarius/Octaria to try and kill crush some of the biggest threats to Chaos' dominance in the galaxy, particularly one Big Green Jesus (Ghazzy). Khorne threw everything aside from the kitchen sinkAngron, who was waiting for the idiots over on Armageddon to ritually summon him at that planet.

The Orks and the Nids independently turned and beat the shit out of Khorne's followers until they fucked off back to the Warp so the bugs and angry mushrooms could go back to their meatgrinder bonanza, and with the situation essentially being the same as before the Blood Crusade showed up.

The Blood Crusade attack on Octarius lost. Deal with it.

Nope, it stalemated the Blood Crusade long enough for the Warp to draw back the Crusade and relocate them. Nobody lost or won.

Continued...just thought about it.

>Nobody lost or won.

Actually, Khorne did win since the bloodshed of whatever side will only fuel his power.

>b-but it took both the Nids and the Orks present on world to fight off a crusade that had effortlessly plowed through everything else before it
>n-never mind that Khorne was being a WAAC faggot and sent all of his greatest champions there
>n-no his 2 greatest huntsmen, karanak and kbantha, didn't fail to kill either swarmlord or Ghaz, they just were assigned to hunt down no names
>n-no this wasn't only one of 2 times Khornes crusade was ever halted

That is as close of a win that 'nids will ever get.

>being this much in denial
that's like saying anyone who ever beat back chaos didn't really win because the daemons just went back to the warp.

I'm not the one arguing that there wasn't a stalemate. There was.
NPC races certainly didn't win.

>Whenever Chaos is not fighting, all the other factions should be asking "Where's Chaos?"

The cases of daemonic incursions, daemons are banished back to the Warp by magics or brute force where they are locked in the Warp for a 1000 years.

In this case, the daemons of Khorne ran out of time and were relocated by the Warp into another battlefield. The daemon army wasn't banished or defeated. It's still at large in the galaxy and going to smash into Armageddon.

Well by that logic, the Orks also won because they got a great scrap out of it, and the tyranids also won because they devoured the bodies of any beastmen or cultists they killed.

Or you could say the Khorne forces lost because they were sent with the intent to claim the skulls of Ghaz and swarmlord for the skull throne so that Khorne could have the glory of ending the threat of 2 xenos species that could actually ruin chaos' plans if left unchecked. And they failed completely at this task.

>they devoured the bodies of any beastmen or cultists they killed.

No, Tyranids do not devour tainted biomass. Refer to Shadowbrink.

>Or you could say the Khorne forces lost because they were sent with the intent to claim the skulls of Ghaz and swarmlord for the skull throne so that Khorne could have the glory of ending the threat of 2 xenos species that could actually ruin chaos' plans if left unchecked. And they failed completely at this task.

Do not headcanon. The text doesn't say anything about the Blood Crusade coming specifically for Ghaz and Swarmypants. There is no proof that this battle is any different from the 999 random battle locations that the Warp deposited the Blood Crusade at.

>most of the time
there is the key word

>So what if it took the Orks and Nid combined strength to merely match the Crusade's onslaught!
>implying the largest Hive Fleet and the biggest Ork Waaagh! in 9,000 years with the best Ork teknology couldn't have taken Khorne's boys on their own

>It's still at large in the galaxy and going to smash into Armageddon.
>Not realizing the Blood Crusade already hit Armageddon prior to the actual Rift War breaking out
Seriously, there's a REASON Tzeentch's guys showed up and were fighting for supremacy with Khorne's boys on Armageddon.

>Do not headcanon
>headcanon
You mean like Chaos players claiming that Khorne guys failing to sacrifice countless skulls to Khorne somehow counts as a stalemate?

>>implying the largest Hive Fleet and the biggest Ork Waaagh! in 9,000 years with the best Ork teknology couldn't have taken Khorne's boys on their own

They couldn't.
Combined they only matched them.
Individually they would have merely been slaughtered.

>Combined they only matched them.
>Implying a short term stalemate means khorne would win in the long run

Nids and Orks are both attrition nightmares to go up against, considering banished daemons actually have to fuck off for a while their best hope would be to delete all the orks and nids in one fell swoop, which they where clearly incapable of doing.

>You mean like Chaos players claiming that Khorne guys failing to sacrifice countless skulls to Khorne somehow counts as a stalemate?

No, because that's actual canon.
Right in the rulebook if you actually read it.

They are not infinite or immortal like daemons, so daemons are better at attrition than either when the warp is raging strong.
And again, they were stalemated only by the combined power of the Orks and Nids.
The Blood Crusade already wiped out entire Hive Fleets, so a big tendril would have been no challenge.

>no proof this battle was any different
>sent everyone but Angron there including 2 characters specifically tasked with hunting down mortals who offend Khorne
>was one of only 2 battles Khornes forces didn't win
>both hunters failed to claim their prizes
>not any different

>>both hunters failed to claim their prizes

Says who?

>They are not infinite or immortal like daemons
>Swarmy is literally immortal
>tyranids are literally infinite as long as you dont completely whipe them out in one fell swoop
>orks are the most numerous race in the galaxy and they're all heading to octarius, not to mention they have their own eco system.
yeah nah, unless chaos deleted them all in one go they will lose a battle of attrition.

>t-they just took some no named warboss and hive tyrant skulls!
>t-totally succeeded guys
Khorne would not be amused.

Says the fact that Ghaz is obviously not dead and if the swarmlord died the stalemate would have been broken and this never happened, so it's safe to assume karanak and kbantha either both failed to kill their prey, or Khorne was too much of a bitch to risk losing them so he sent them after lesser no name champions

>>Swarmy is literally immortal

He's not.

>>tyranids are literally infinite

They're not.

>yeah nah, unless chaos deleted them all in one go they will lose a battle of attrition.

No they won't. You can't beat immortals at attritional warfare.

>Khorne would not be amused.

Yes he would. Khorne doesn't send his hounds only against the strongest.
>Says the fact that Ghaz is obviously not dead and if the swarmlord died

Where is your proof that Ghaz and Swarmlord were the targets?

>They couldn't.
>Combined they only matched them
>This is what Chaosfags actually believe
The only reason the greenskins and Orks count as 'combined' is because they were on the same planet and happened to target a new threat at the same time. You know it

>Right in the rulebook if you actually read it.
Oh, you mean the one sitting in front of me right now? The one that says the combined might of Ghazghkull's greenskins and Leviathans hordes fought the Blood Crusade to a, quote, 'standstill on Octarius before Daemons left via a warp storm'? Last I checked a "standstill" is not the same thing as a 'stalemate'.

>Says who?
Considering the 'prizes' are likely Thraka (who's protected by a shit-ton of plot armor) and Swarmy (who just respawns every time he gets killed), and the Blood Crusade left with neither one in their clutches (or else the book would have mentioned such a game-changing event... at least in the Orks case), yes, both hunters did fail.

>Where is your proof that Ghaz and Swarmlord were the targets?
How about 'cutting the head off the snake to kill the body' or tactics fucking 101?

Seriously, Ghazzy is the leader of Da Great WAAAAGH!, it's only logical that he'd be one of the targets. Just how in denial are you?

Read the fluff dude, the daemons were there long enough for a shit ton of Beast men, cultists and chaos marines to show up and join the fight. It also says only the daemons were swept away by the warp storms so everyone else either had to fight their way out or were slaughtered by Orks and Nids. This wasn't a mere hours long raid

>He's not.
He literally is like every single other hive tyrant, he can just download into a new body.
Saying he isn't immortal is like saying Lucious the eternal isn't immortal

>You can't beat immortals at attritional warfare.
>Kill a daemon
he has to wait a long ass time before he can come back and even then he must be resummoned or atleast have enough warp energy present.
>kill a nid
10 takes it place because nids are perpetual motion machines who only require biomass