Are power lances in 8ed and are they any better? I always wanted to run 10 Vanguard Vets with Power Lances but they were just not good
Joshua Flores
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I was going to ask if you're surprised the durability faction has an extra save against anti-tank on tanks but then I reminded myself we aren't the durability faction anymore and now I'm sad
>Reanimation is more a gimmick than anything reliable unless you max out and buff huge warrior blobs to minmax it >Characters don't have it -period-
Hudson Ward
How many traps at your LGS, anons?
Gavin Taylor
I'm just getting back into the game now. Played Orks a while ago, but i'm thinking of picking up Space Marines. I got the old Blackreach box back in the day so I have a few hummies kickin' around. Any suggestions to start/expand my collection?
Ayden Cruz
Speaking of non standard paint schemes, any ideas for pox-walkers?
Duncan recommends priming them white, then doing the skin with either green or flesh shading.
Any other ideas?
Benjamin Sanchez
Yes, they have exactly the same stats as power mauls. So pretty decent.
Angel Jenkins
Sixth for store traps!
Carter Parker
Trap means femboy right?
None. All our sweaty neckbeards are sweaty neckbeards.
Joshua Diaz
Excellent transthread #LOVEISLOVE
Elijah Myers
Are they still better on the charge then worse? Or literally just power mauls by a different name?
Gavin Carter
It's close to 95% at this point
Carson Evans
No, they are literally just renamed power mauls. Sorry.
Christopher Jones
>close to 95%
w-what do you mean, user?
Brayden Morales
How are inquisitors these days?
Easton Turner
More like GayMe Chopoffmycock!
Landon Nelson
Marines need to run what, heavy bolters, plasma, and autocannons? Tau run Ion blasters and and missiles
Quantum shielding just requires you to not bring fusion and LOW spam against necrons. With the low toughness and saves, unless someone has loaded dice, D1, D2, and Dd3 with Str6+ will tear it apart
Liam Carter
They've never been good user.
Nathan Bennett
Sword or axe are better in most situations
Nolan Jones
That's fine, still an upgrade
Christopher Murphy
Almost all the regulars have dipped their toes into the world of transsexuality at this point.
Xavier Allen
Are they hot? What armies do they play?
Dominic Richardson
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Leo Ortiz
There's one but I don't think he counts because he was a pudgy dude in cargo pants before and now he's a pudgy dude with tits and an undercut. Still wears the cargo pants.
Aaron Jackson
This.
And plasma is better than melta this edition anyway so it really is a no brainer.
Camden Morgan
Men, by the looks of it
Jayden Cooper
How powerful do you guys headcanon Spehs Muhreens as being?
It varies so wildly in the fluff, Black Library doesn't seem to give authors any concrete idea of where their power level sits, you've got everything from Astartes captains being able to solo 18ft tall daemons or Tyranid monsters all the way to an entire squad of Chaos marines getting rekt by a few Imperial Guardsmen or dreadnoughts being brought down by overloaded lasgun magazines used as grenades.
Personally I always liked to think of them being very much beyond human limits. I liked the Horus Heresy novels describing humans fighting astartes as experiencing 'post-human dread' which caused even trained soldiers to lock up and/or run away crying.
Not just slightly beyond peak-human potential like say, Captain America, but properly superhuman, since they were created to fight wars humans couldn't ever survive in. My headcanon is that you'd never take an Astartes hand-to-hand, one-on-one, you'd just never be strong enough to block a single blow and even if you were the best human swordsman, you'd never move fast enough to land a blow unless he was distracted, or evade any of his.
Likewise, weapons like plasma might work, but you'd need to get into range and line up a shot on a rapidly moving target without getting headshotted by a bolt round fired with unerring accuracy from 200m away.
My headcanon would be that if Imperial Guard/Renegades encounter Astartes, they either die by the hundreds or gtfo until tanks can engage or the Astartes can be lured into line of sight for heavy weapon teams, and even then, they'd be hard to aim at and resistant to anything except direct hits.
That's how I like them, as unstoppable engines of war, I find them boring protagonists, I like them when you see them from a human perspective and realise just how fucked being a human is in 30k/40k.
Nolan Lopez
It varies, the recent bandwagon jumpers are pretty fucking ropey for the most part but there's some qts. But now if you call someone a waacfag you get arrested for hate speech.
Jace Watson
Plasma a shit as far as I can tell, user. 1 damage is garbage, and only wounds superheavies on a 5.
Alexander Wilson
report and hide user, report and hide.
Anthony Richardson
>Iron Cage.jpg
Luis Campbell
MODS
Commence exterminatus
James Adams
did you now knew? /tg stands for TransGender
Carson Johnson
>announces reports and urges others to do so Read the rules sweetie
Josiah Jackson
>can handle the banter [ ] >can't handle the banter [X]
Jackson Fisher
Intelligent Players: Chaos
Braindead Players: Imperium and Xenos
Matthew Gonzalez
> if you call someone a waacfag you get arrested for hate speech.
Where the fuck do you live?
Jayden White
Thank Christ for hide comment/reply
>thinly veiled shitposting >gets mad when called on it This is Trumps America faggot, got to a containment board, or better yet a site
Ethan Butler
Are there any good alternativr models for Necrons? Their lack of variety gets me down sometimes.
James Walker
Squiggoths this edition: >210 points w/ kannon >can carry 12 models >has 5 strength 7 AP-2 Damage D6 attacks >on the charge does D3 mortal wounds to each enemy unit within one inch on a 2+ >Howdah rule lets the squiggoth and its passengers fire in the shooting even if in melee, so long as they're not shooting the unit the squiggoth is currently in melee with. What do you think /40kg/, worth it?
Aaron Thomas
Need to drop 13 points, but where?
Christopher Morales
Um, sweetie, it's 2017.
Just make them out of sprues bro
Julian Nguyen
I think it breaks down a lot more than that! Tau/Orcs/Nids are braindead, but Eldar of any flavor require a bit more brainpower to play. Necrons are just retard level. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Now (chaos)Space Marines? That's for coma patients, I agree.
Juan Gutierrez
The charge only does D3 mortal wounds on a 2, not a 2+.
Parker Hughes
Uh, no. My equipment is still OEM, no conversions allowed.
Nathan Jenkins
Don't reload the page whatever you do
Jacob Lewis
>1 damage >better than 1d6 damage >ap -3 >better than ap -4 >rapid fire >better than assault
Wow, we've got a genius here folks
Brayden Hall
I always saw their strength being in durability more than anything--and past that, experience.
Sure, they're harder to incapacitate than a normal human. But they still go down eventually.
The key thing is, the average tactical marine has been in a nonstop state of war for half a century or more. They really, REALLY know how to fight. Hand-to-hand, ranged, any sort of specialty you can think of--they can do it. This because even though they go down, THEY DON'T DIE. The strike force finishes the job, gathers up the wounded, and even with extremely gruesome injuries they can be just fine. If they aren't, congrats, you can stick them in a walking tank.
Zachary Davis
Bongistan probably.
Anthony Campbell
Can they literally not draw a single one of these that don't look like a disgusting Shim?
Owen Reyes
How bad would be a chaos/traitor imperator?
Adam Roberts
>a lone jump lord >noise marine squads without rhinos
What.
Nicholas Stewart
Please stop being a fucking retard, its clearly meant to be a 2+
Caleb Jones
RAW its 2, senpai, there also tyranid creature that hits in melee only on 3s.
Praise the forgeworld.
Jeremiah Brown
Part of their strength is their mental fortitude. Fighting constantly for more than a year would break most men, but Space Marines do it for decades.
Nolan Cruz
You get twice the shots at twice the range. Yes, it is better.
Julian Gonzalez
Im currently painting robed Alpha Legion models. Alternating rules between heretics that might secretly be loyal to the emperor, and loyalists that might be secretly heretics.
Christian Robinson
>most men >looks at picture i see what you did there
Zachary Russell
really weak and no option for power armor. psyker option is cheaper i think now but the powers are worse like everyone's. iirc they were 25p base and now they're 55p
acolytes have potential since they're 8 points for 3 wounds and have many options but i'm not sure how to run them
Ryan Ward
Yeah, and dire avengers aren't meant to be 17 goddamn points a model, but I don't play the game it's meant to be. I play the game it is.
Levi Morgan
When will GW openly support Pride 2017? It is after all, 2017 and they promised it wouldn't be all cishet wh*te supremacist stuff like they've always done.They've even got the perfect chapter to replace those dull hetero ultramarines
Cooper Ross
Amen to that
Brayden Jackson
You can stick acolytes in a repressor with plasma pistols and combiplasma! It won't go as fast as a dominion repressor, but it's a lot of firepower.
Jonathan White
>Screen Shot 2017... etc.
Benjamin Edwards
>2 damage with individual miss chances >better than 1d6 damage reroll and take highest Oh yeah sounds really good
Colton Allen
You can't shoot out of rhinos anymore, and the jump lord can deepstrike and can more or less keep up with the bikes.
Andrew Morgan
Well it can only carry 10 models. I guess just shove it full of shoota boyz or nobz with kombi guns and just dakka anything that gets close.
Just with the BS skill, there's not enough shots to output enough damage but the melee capabilities of it and it's constant in combat fire support for other groups make it a plus as well.
Jaxon Flores
Non traditional color schemes you say?
Jordan Johnson
Your dudes are gonna get shot off the board without a rhino.
Aaron Martin
The owners gf is a trans, does it count?
Brandon Adams
>repressor never seen anyone have a model for it so it's not relevant. i run a couple of these for plasma pistols since this is the first time pretty much ever to run them on normal models and sergeants
Michael Allen
It clearly says 2, not 2+.
Sebastian Wright
Convert an immolator or rhino into one. It's worth it.
Ethan Sanders
i'm puritan these days so no
Brayden Bennett
Yep, it is.
Matthew Walker
I just saw it.
Landon Wright
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William Gray
>5 minutes in Paint later
Gabriel Lee
What do you believe is so hard about converting one? It's just a box on the back...
Grayson Butler
I'm not sure I like those arrows on her knee.
Caleb Brooks
Damn she got a booty
Jeremiah Perez
So, if we're playing with rules as intended, tell me how the Eldar Scorpion is supposed to function. 3 damage listed in the weapon's profile, with a special rule stating "on a wound roll of a 6, this weapon does 2d6 damage instead of d6."
Does that mean the damage value is supposed to be d6 for all the normal hits instead of 3? Does the 3 become 2d6 on the roll of a 6 to wound? Or does the effect not work, because it is a replacement effect and there is no d6 to replace?
Rules as written, the last option is most likely to be accepted at tournaments.
William Price
You're the one that's fish on helm retarded. The rules are quite clear that it's a roll of a 2. Not a 2, 3, 4, 5, or 5. Like how the damocles rhino rolls a die with no consequence.
Joshua Jackson
Anyone recall rumours of a unique Death Guard vindicator tank?
What was that from and what was it about?
Bentley Gonzalez
But chaos sisters would be fun too! Imagine Slaanesh/Khorn/Tzeentch/Nurgle themed acts of faith!
Blake Campbell
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Anthony Adams
True, if it has no d6 damage, how are you going to increase it to 2d6?
Benjamin Jenkins
Sisters of Chaos has a nice ring to it.
Isaiah Hernandez
it's not about what is hard. i'm more about what's an official model these days
Carter Bennett
>her
Ryder Bennett
Wouldn't they just have marks, which (when the codex decides to come out) do special abilities on their own?
Nicholas Morris
They still can't shoot from inside it, once they disembark they are just as vulnerable, is it really worth paying 72 points for a turn or two of M12"?
Jace Bennett
>Imagine Slaanesh/Khorn/Tzeentch/Nurgle themed acts of faith! >extra move. already covered >extra "assault phase". already covered >extra shooting phase. already covered >recover wounds/models. already covered are you fucking retarded or what?
Nathaniel Clark
I thought they were called Daemonettes.
Ethan Thomas
Just got my first Primaris, would mk3 heads look good on them?
Eli Brooks
What's the deal with Brits and undersized turrets? Is it an insecurity thing?
Christopher Roberts
>gw supercharged plasma gun 2 damage >fw supercharged plasma gun 3 damage >gw supercharged plasma cannon d3 shots range 36 >fw supercharged plasma cannon heavy 2 range 48 Shit negro what are you doing. Who is right? Proof read and playtest my ass.
Jayden Young
Well transvestism is a symptom of autism/other brain damage.