I am just starting to get into battletech fluff, any recommendations as to what novels to start with?
Ian Mitchell
Legend of the Jade Phoenix trilogy for early Clans, Wolves on the Border, just about any novel written by Robert N. Charrette, and depending on your taste the Warrior and Blood of Kerensky trilogies.
Isaiah Murphy
Decision at thunder rift or wolves on the border are my two favorite novels. Else just read source books on factions that interest you.
Daniel Diaz
>build all the varients of the Celestial series from the Jihad
Wait a second... Build? Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but isn't every mech in the MUL already available as AS cards free to download? I don't know why you'd need to build them at all...
Likewise, though I have to admit that Thunder Rift had one glaring fault as an early novel: They didn't know when to dial back the space babble, so they set this world as one with like, 24 different seasons in a non-regular pattern and 35 hour days or some shit...
Kind of cool flavor text, but they would drone on and on about it.
I also liked the Jade Phoenix Trilogy, but then, that was my first of the Battletech novels, and what a doozie it was for a first read. Luckily I had a rock hard tween boner for Mechwarrior 2 at the time, so hearing all the clanbabble didn't scare me off right away.
William Hughes
If you're absolutely just starting I'd recommend Decision at Thunder Rift, then Mercenary's Star. They were the first and third novels to be written, and as such are very newbie friendly, as there was no assumption a reader would have reams of lore already memorized. They also follow one another in terms of plot. They take place in an older time period, so modern games don't play like the setting suggests, but they're a lot of pulpy fun.
Samuel James
I'm so Combine my shits transmit targeting data...
Dominic Rodriguez
He's talking modelling them all. Why I don't know, nor why he's namefagging up.
Alexander Martinez
Thanks for clarifying. Nah Bambaman's namefagged for years now, but he's not an attention hog or shitposter or anything, so its' cool. The Pole used to do that to, but again, it doesn't matter so long as you're not a shitposter like vroom vroom was, and at least we know what's coming in that case.
Some people around the chans are crazy tightassed about everyone protecting their super secret identity and start looking for post-style quirks or content, thinking saying "I recognise you" is the scariest thing possible.
But fuck, I've been in Veeky Forums since late 2007 or early 2008 for Battletech, because the OF get their panties in a bunch if you disagree or say "Fuck" in their hugbox. By now, someone's recognized me - and if they have - I'd be more likely to get a Battletech meetup out of it than have a flaming bag of dogshit at my doorstep.
Asher Bell
Thought the guy asking about how to start would be interested. This was a hastily done comic I made in 2k8 detailing how I got my start into Battletech and Veeky Forums shit in general, before finally getting my start in the LGS playing pickup games. Sorry about the WORDSWORDSWORDS
Matthew Taylor
No wonder that fucker has no ammo or guns, the sword's so overdone it weighs at least 35 tons.
Joshua Sullivan
I think it's the 21 tons of Hardened Armor and fuckhuge engine that are to blame.
Ayden Bell
Imagine the power that shit must have.
Two handed pole-arm of doom made from sci-fi super alloys that is roughly 16 meters high, 2.5 meters wide and weighs 35 fucking tons, used by a human giant with up-powered muscles who is about 17 meters itself.
It's all sci-fi physics, so I guess it's perfectly reasonable to imagine it wedging that thing and splitting an Atlases' cockpit in half. Which is cool as fuck.
Grayson White
Per chance any resident artfags come around, I think someone could make a pretty decent reaction pic out of this applied to BT. There's downright too many goofy mechs to pick just one.
Blake Campbell
I could see this designed to be about the DCMS and the Charger 1A1
Ryan Hughes
Urbie, Hoplite, Jenner with a pancake on it's head, hell I'd say Akuma because it's just weird.
Liam Garcia
Around Dracs, never relax!
Levi Moore
Oh god; the memes would never stop. There are too many options!
Jackson Robinson
Around Dracs, alpha strike and laugh.
Christopher Lopez
Just put a pretty or semi-pretty blond somewhere in their view and they'll be distracted for four turns.
Nolan Cook
And then after four turns pass, fighting resumes and the snake dies.
Luke Gomez
So I have to admit that I'm surprised there aren't more PGI deaign minis available on like Sbapeways. I thought that wohld be the place to find them.
I just want a good looking Centurion model. Is that so much to ask?
Eli Sanchez
Warhansa mate.
Evan Smith
I know it's not the point of the meme or the post, but in the defense of the Zock it doesn't look too bad in its first game introduction after which they decided to use the show design as is and use that from that point on
Jordan Wright
Hitting the whiskey early today, yo?
Carson Gutierrez
Could still be lit from last night.
Owen Moore
Didn't know that even existed! Thanks!
I assume this is due to spelling errors? I'm typing on my phone, and these damn touchscreen keyboards are the devil.
Benjamin Brooks
Nah mane, I'd totally buy figs from Sbapeways. They make great Muckies.
Jason Morris
I wonder how that thing would look in late 1970's mecha anime colors of red, white, blue and yellow with black accents.
Austin Garcia
this thread needs an image dump
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Juan Baker
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Ryder Harris
What? It was already a dump, and it had images. I don't mind your posts, but you coulda chosen images from battletech, and not some video game, at least.
Nicholas Powell
>but you coulda chosen images from battletech, and not some video game, at least. what kind of drug are you using, nigga?
Aiden Allen
Nostalgia goggles are hell mate, leave the old grognard be.
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Nathan Taylor
>That creaky old fuck Stone in the same piece of shit he drove in Operation Scythe
Old motherfucker thinks he's Wayne Waco or Jaime Wolf. I hate the mary sue wolf he's up against but I hope Alaric kills Stone dead.
Camden Butler
That Atlas isn't a bad mech, I dunno what you're on about.
Caleb Harris
I'm hoping for a Waco/wolf repeat ending myself
James Powell
The Atlas II is a mediocre nonsense mech that falls into the same star league prototype trap as have way too many before it. Except it did it for a limited production machine that was also ugly as sin. Stone's personal beast is a sad mixtech abomination.
Mostly, I hate the Atlas II and hate Stone, so it's like a perfect hate sandwich.
Charles Gomez
I dunno, I've had good experiences with the Atlas II. Different strokes etc.
As for Stone, I hate the entire RotS and most of the Dark Age due to it being pretty stupidly written, so I can't really argue with you on that front.
Juan Torres
If you want a serious one, blood kite.
Silly: yeoman, flashman, stalker, dasher...
Hudson Sullivan
The Atlas II doesn't perform that badly. The large laser and LBX10 thing is as old as fuck mod used by players for the machine like a ton of the royal munch designs. There's just no reason they shouldn't have made it an AS7-Db instead of that ugly piece of shit.
Ayden Rivera
Every time I see a Dasher / Fire Moth, I keep expecting to go, "Booga, booga, boo!"
James Gutierrez
So THAT'S how you get into a mech in the field...
Thomas Garcia
Rope ladder/chain ladder has been stated since forever though some also have handhold ladders welded on them. They're usually not automatic like that though.
They also sometimes have single line winches with a footstrap like a gundam.
Luke Gutierrez
I still hear the voice in my head. "Get ready, lance leader. They're coming."
I really don't like how they portrayed the cockpit. That looks damn near impossible to climb into without some serious gymnastics. Don't most cockpits in the BT-verse open from the front or sides?
Luis Cox
>I still hear the voice in my head. "Get ready, lance leader. They're coming."
"Oh, man."
"I see them ground commander. Hold your position."
Ryan Miller
Why wouldn't you attach the ladder to the top edge of the cockpit?
Brandon Johnson
It is attached to the mech hatch in canon.
Lucas Ortiz
That picture also really makes me curious as to how you'd get into the MWO raven design.
Logan Ross
>And then after four turns pass, fighting resumes and the snake dies.
Do you think I'd be working in a place like this if I could afford a real snake?
John Davis
"We're tracking the Thor, lance leader do you read?"
Adrian Howard
"That's the last com-sat. Moving to escort positions."
Is it okay to ask questions about the battletech RPG?
Liam Nelson
Go ahead. Some of us here even play it.
Aaron Cruz
Most MWO designs are made with the TRO art in mind, not human proportions. The cockpits used in the game fit only on like 2 mechs, most of them are completely unable to even contain a human being, let alone have a way of getting them inside.
Anyway, I'd go with the Mobile Suit solution. Have a rope with a stirrup (or whatever its equivalent is called for mountain climbers) attached over the cockpit entrance. The tech is primitive, reliable and gets you into and out of the cockpit about as fast as it really gets.
Austin Collins
Goddammit user. You said the name, you'll summon him up!
Luis Nguyen
Ejecting, ejecting, ejecting!
Eli Parker
>Ejecting, ejecting, ejecting!
Track that pod!
Daniel Torres
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Colton Barnes
Does shimmy still stream, or even hang out here anymore? I remember watching him do that one, was a lot of fun.
Ryan Gomez
He got a job or something and has less time to fuck around on the internet, which is why he hasn't been here much recently.
Mason Price
You were right. That story had some major background flaws. I am now going to write a prologue for Sparrow washing out of the comguards for committing war crimes against the enemy while on garrison duty defending an HPG uplink.
Charles Rodriguez
Who cares about war "crimes"?
Austin Rogers
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Justin Jackson
A better question is who leaves Comstar alive, much less the Com Guards? Best to ignore the fucking moron.
Dominic Collins
>A better question is who leaves Comstar alive, much less the Com Guards?
Jeremiah Rose.
Sorry, but leaving the Com Guards - with Star League-era experimental equipment, even - is 100% canonically possible. Unless you'd like to argue that Main Event isn't canon?
Jose Flores
Yeah, but that's the exception that proves the rule. Not just anybody can do it, because it's so exceptional that it gets written about in fucking canon.
Nathan Perez
I'm new to the game and getting into the background fluff. The notion of "Great Houses" reminds me of Game of Thrones, which I'm a fan of.
Maybe to simplify things if you had to match up a Battletech great house to a GoT great house which would be similar to which?
David Perry
That was during the magical time of the schism where a shit ton of people up and walked with their machines while the upper levels of the organization were in total chaos. It just plain didn't happen before then. Fochtstar isn't old school comstar.
Also, even Jeremiah got cockblocked by old Comstar when he wanted to quit before Tukayyid.
Jaxson Gray
Tards are House Cameron Arryn are Marik Lanister are Steiner Stark are Davion Martell are Kurita Greyjoy are Liao
Probably the closest you'll get but none of that fits exactly.
Lincoln Reyes
Yeah, but he did that after Tukayyid. This dumbass Swallow is doing it before the Clans are even a thing.
Charles Russell
Well, the idea was that he was a cadet pulling garrison duty at a faraway HPG link, and was rejected from the comguards prior to being fully enlisted.
Xavier Nelson
after all, they must have had to do training, there are a lot of HPG uplinks that needed guarding, and a few were bound to wash out.
Mechwarriors don't just grow on trees.
Jace Wood
If you wash out, you're still in the organization though. You just get shunted down to something like mailman.
Jeremiah Robinson
I'm only going to say this once, user.
READ.
THE.
FUCKING.
LORE.
The ComGuard, prior to Tukayyid, are the most highly trained and highly watched force in the game. Massive chunks of the Guard are actually ROM agents operating under cover, and ROM is the uber-elite intel agency.
If they even *suspected* a recruit might try this shit they'd execute them on the spot for being a traitor to the will of Blake.
Training is also conducted on Terra or Mars which are, you guessed it, ROM central. MechWarrior training for the Guard is done *only* through Sandhurst, which is where they train ROM agents as well. In the same fucking classrooms.
Prior to Tukayyid, I'd give a deserting ComGuard soldier a lifespan measured in seconds, unless he is secretly a ROM agent using it as a cover story.
And even then there'd be a ROM agent coming after him hard-core, either to make it look good or because he's pissed about it, who will put in a major effort to get the kill for the Blessed Blake.
Christian Hall
During the Era of Mad Max would a mech be passed down through families, or would it ultimately belong to the state in a more communist fashion?
Ayden Mitchell
Since you're so dedicated to this character being a total edgy sociopath asshole, mister writefag, why not have him be from, y'know, the fucking BANDIT KINGDOMS where he could have literally been a professional child molester before he went mercenary?
Nolan Thomas
Do you mean the reign of Maximilian Liao, or just the general 3rd succession wars era? Either way, the answer is that it's gonna be a mix of both state and family owned mechs, with the CC under Mad Max tending more towards state owned than average, but by no means exclusively
Mason Myers
Passed down.
State ownership becomes a lot more common in 3050+ or the Star League/Age of War eras.
Christopher Garcia
>belong to the state in a more communist fashion the USA army let their soldiers keep their tanks and helicopters after wars?
Connor Evans
Mad Max as in the terrible movie
Juan Lewis
Apologies I meant the CCAF under Mad Max.
Easton Peterson
State mechs were basically just new production. Family mechs were the old relics. Even in the Mad Max era you were awarded your state mech as a personal machine for great deeds or even making a machine live far past life expectancy. Lights especially were awarded at retirement. If you drove a Wasp for twenty years and it didn't explode, then they tended to give it to you.
In the old days, family machines and mechwarrior knights were the majority. They got to be rare breeds by the 3060's-3080's though.
>Dat Atlas ASD7-K2 entry McKinnon has always been a faggot of the highest caliber.
Hudson Collins
Calm down user, read the previous two threads. He's aggressively stupid in his refusal to learn the lore of what he writes about. He's too much of a genius to be confined by mere established canon, you see.