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>Thread changing whilst I'm posting again

God fuck it.

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I'm mocking them for failing to match that lore blurb to the actual models.

Obviously they can't be masters of lightning assault if they're much slower than most assault marines.

Obviously they don't have elite specialist equipment if they have a pistol and knife. Yes, it's a Cawl pattern pistol, but all primaris have Cawl pattern stuff, it's just going to be a longer ranged or two shot bolt pistol with -1 rend. They'd have a power weapon or something if they genuinely had elite specialist combat equipment.

The trained to scare people thing might be true, but the appearance certainly doesn't hold up to it, they don't look more scary than regular primaris in any way.

I have a newfound respect for squat dreads.

Excellent, we made it just in time!

I mean, sure they can on all accounts. Being sneaking in and striking fast work. And we don't know the full extent of their gear.

But they have skull facepaint, that supposed to be scary and edgy.

>Shards of Magnus nonsense

Literally why.

Femarines are cute! CUTE!

can't i just surround your transports with bikes or hormagaunts and half your army is stuck inside?

So since a recent GT was won by a Blood Angels player with: One Tacsquad, 4 Storm Ravens, and 2 Stormhawk Interceptors, it looks like pic related is no longer just a meme.

>Obviously they don't have elite specialist equipment if they have a pistol and knife.

But user, chad marines all suffer from weaponized autism. A knife really is specialist equipment to them.

It's not a sigmarine. The abs on that sigmarine don't match up with the pic they posted today, or any of the other lion related leaks.
Also, that guy is a lord castellant according to the book description, and that already has a model.
It's lion el homo

>trusting the results of a tourney were 2 out of the the 3 placers had illegal lists
ISHYGDDT

Special weapon for special children.

>godhammer land raider
>with assault cannon sponsons
?????????????????

Couldn't he have done the same or better with vanilla or space wolves?

>pic is 8 or 9 years old

I bet Fabius Bile could instant kill titans with his Rod of Torment in that tournament :^)

>weaponized autism

Before the Stormraven was released there were rumors of "a flying land raider with assault cannons in the BA codex".

sure, but thats true of any mechanised army, and also assumes i make some dumbass positioning decisions allowing myself to get three vehicles surrounded simultaneously. Its obviously not going to deal with stuff like ten thousand conscripts and seething hordes of gants, nothing does apart from other hordes

and i already own 80 genestealers and ~200 gants

>tfw incapable of focussing on one army soon keep buying things for both leaving me with a fuckhuge pike of shit I don't know I'll ever use

Which would be the best allied snipers for a SOB force? Temple Assassins seem decently fluffy and don't require a heap of extra models but I'm unsure.

With this edition having characters be harder to remove with shooting, snipers seem rather useful.

I should be constructive: I don't see enough shooting outside of transports to kill off a 30 gaunt blob, so if you start in the transports, you're stuck. If you start out of the transports, you're either not in range or you're getting charged.

I think you need some bubble wrap.

>chad marines all suffer from weaponized autism
So same as old marines.

>The trained to scare people thing might be true, but the appearance certainly doesn't hold up to it, they don't look more scary than regular primaris in any way.
I disagree. Transhuman dread is already a thing. Conine that with the primaris' increased size and I would assume the reivers increased speed due to less armor, and most mortals will be shitting their pants in fear.
I don't know about you, but a 8-9ft tall skull faced humanoid jumping out of the bushes and running at me at inhuman speeds would be terrifying.

My only wish is that they painted the reivers in the RT camo patterns. That would be awesome and a nice reference on GW's part.

> Thunderfire Cannon
> Contains 1 Thunderfire Cannon and 1 Techmarine Gunner
> Armed with Thunderfire Cannon, 2 Servo-Arms, Bolt Pistol, Plasma Cutter and Flamer
> Total points cost is 28 + 36 + 0 + 9 + 7 + (2x12) + 30
> For the basic unit with no options available to it
> Rules, weapon profiles and points are spread over 6 pages to find everything

Why did they think this layout was a good idea?
Just give me the total with the basic weapons already added in you muppets.

Son...

Can you combine them together as an allied army?

People seem to forget there are things in the 40k universe that aren't fearless.

Nope. CSM and Deldar.

The list that won is legal. You can run 2 Flyer Wings and 1 Patrol Detachment. This is totally more balanced, as pseudo-unbound is far better than Formations for preventing spam. (It isn't).

It's more appling that the wyvren fies 4d6 shots while the thunderfire cannon fires 4d3 shots and costs more

>Combined with primaris increased size

It's almost like I said they don't look scarier than other primaris rather than other marines.

8-9 foot seems a fairly ridiculous overestimate though, regular marines are 7 foot so comparing them primaris are probably about 7 foot 6 inches. 8 as an absolute high end, unlikely estimate based off them being similar in height to Custodes models who yes, are 8 foot.

I haven't seen any fluff so far suggesting Primaris are actually Custodes-big though, and their stats certainly don't match up.

I tried out a squad of mixed heavy weapons for the first time ever. 2 lascannons and 2 heavy bolters. Pretty impressed with the effectiveness of devastators even on the move. I like the idea of fielding a second squad with the same loadout on a opposite flank, making it mich more difficult to hide infantry from the hb and tanks from the lascannons.

I liked running the primaris lt with the anti tank stuff too. Pseudo tank hunters.

Also the patrol narrative game is pretty fun. Recommend it.

I think the idea is that if you cut out the weapons from the cost of the units you can rebalance the game with a bit more finess. So if the lascannon is too expensive you can decrease its cost across the board without looking at every unit using said lascannon.

...I think.

But user, 99/100 of the scariness of that scenario is the 9ft superman running at me, the skull face wouldn't really register as much of a threat compared to the rest.

And Space Marines already HAD most of that before with Ass marines, with the added benefit of being much faster at the cost of like 1ft of height. And when I'm a heretic shittting myself in a foxhole, I'm not going to quibble about the murder machine charging me being smaller than expected.

Just back from local GW. Started on assembling my first army.

Managed to assemble 20 poxwalkers. Surprisingly easy to do. Very cool looking models too.

Overall was a nice experience, didn't know people but I talked to a few people, even helped a guy who was playing death guard and got a few rules wrong to his disadvantage. Hope to assemble the rest and start painting soon.

How was your day today anons?

>and their stats certainly don't match up

That's because the increased size is mostly just hot air :^)

He should have been disqualified for the "twin-linked" weapons.

Random question:

The new codex talks about how the Ruinous Powers 'reign supreme' over the 'Realm of Chaos'.

Am I correct in the thought that 'Realm of Chaos' is just the infinite area' of inside the endless expanse of the Warp that is exclusively under the dominion of the Chaos Gods?

I mean, if the Big Four actually "reigned supreme", they should have crushed the other non-Chaos deities by now (Emps, Ynead, Gork and Mork... not Cegorach since he's in the webway playing librarian right now.), yeah?

Is the Techmarine gunner cheaper than a regular Techmarine? If so he might be a handy ally to my marine vehicle detachment.

The idea is to screen with the flyers and duck in and out of close combat and shooting with my flamers. Barring genestealers, i cant think of any hordes killy enough to actually crack a rhino before the other two unload their squads worth of shooting into the blob. The only time i should have my tanks charged is if my opponent dodges my flying support, and if he manages to surround all three then i'm either being masterfully outplayed, making really fucking stupid positioning mistakes, or playing against six hundred conscripts/gants/boyz.

So, working on my Colonial Marine-themed Scion list, and am torn between tying them into the whole Ultramar expansion by making them a branch of the Ultramar Auxilia, going with a dark grey and blue scheme, or placing them somewhere else fluffwise.

About 22 points cheaper.

Should be getting my Poxwalkers in today, going to do the same.

Do drones purchased with stuff like firewarriors count as separate units for the purpose of scoring kill points? Do they have to be killed off to count the unit they came with as destroyed?

Similar question for warlocks and primaris lts bought as a group

Depends if he has a rule that limits what he can repair to the gun, like the Cybernetica Datasmith that can only repair the Kastelans.

It doesn't matter if the winning list is legal or not, the fact that 2 illegal lists got through and won 2nd and 3rd place shows that either the players and/or the TO's don't know the rules or are just bad at the game.
Who knows how many other mistakes were made, and how those mistakes affected the final outcome.

Plenty of room in Ultramar, but even more room in the rest of the galaxy. Are there any other imperial factions you also like that you'd enjoy buddying up your Scions with?

Drone Support states that they become a seperate unit after deployment, so I'm assuming that yes, they becoming another unit viable for reaping Kill Points off of. IIRC Warlocks are "sergeants" in Eldar squads, but that might have changed I don't play elves.

He can repair any vehicle within 1''

If it's one of those "Starts within X but after which is treated as separate units" things then it does count as a seperate unit for kill points. Just like all the other things that used to be teamed together like Leman Russ squadrons.

For the first time ever I played a girl and she was actually interested in the game some. It made me curious, are there any girls in these threads hiding that they are girls?

I'm sure some are here that play.

There's probably some areas that overlap around realspace in the warp where the Big 4 don't have much of an influence.

What I mean, is that Emps and Gork/Mork exists partially in a separate realm of the warp powered by their respective species(or even the ork meme-field for Gork&Mork)

Given there's fluff about ordinary beings affecting the warp by sheer mass and faith/emotion(Fall of the Eldar) I wouldn't say it's impossible for a species to create a "bubble" in the warp for their god to exist in.

More proof that WAAC faggots are a cancer on the game and many of the major tournament scenes are in cahoots with them.

I ran a tournament this weekend and somehow confused consolidating with pile-ing in on two or three tables. Otherwise there were no issues. Lists were legal, points checked, questions answered with explanation given.

fuck off

So is there any hope of an FAQ or should I just try to get my local guys to allow a house rule.
example:
Spartan Assault Tank is a LoW
Can't have more Relics than Non-relics in a "Detachment"
Only detachment allowing for more than 1 LoW requires 3 minimum
So now I have to bring 2 Imperial Knights or some other LoW just to bring my 1 Spartan
I'm kind of pissed

does anyone know where I can find Lias Issodon/raptors rules for 8th?

I saw a mom today with two kids who looked to be like 6 or 7 and she mentioned that she has paints and so on at home and wanted to get an AoS starter set for her son.

Found at least one of the girls.

First time I played Endless Crusade (which is F2P now and fun enough) I chose Leldar cause that's my main tabletop army.

Picked a Dire Avenger.

Not long into the game I got rushed by a space wolf with a chainsword and bolt pistol. That huge lumbering motherfucker sprinting at me way faster than I expected scared the ever living shit out of me.

>I'm sure some are here that play.
Can't say about here, but one of my local GW stores has a young lady employee who runs a Dark Eldar army and legitimately enjoys the game.

Can somebody tell me the mm size of this guy's base please?

Sloppy rules and a game system that rewards spam over fluff builds is the issue. WAAC is a symptom.

I know of at least a few that play wargaming. Helps if your FLGS isn't full of autistic mouth-breathers who treat any female as a strange creature.

Is she short and blond?

Anyone know what the name is of the coming yearly update book they will release?

Maybe if the tournament missions helped guide players towards more balanced lists things would be better.

Instead, we get shit like this.

>>Missing Primarch Geneseed brings in Femarines and sends half the fans into an autistic rage irl

Why? Now superheavies are mostly contained in larger games, the more restrictions for them the better imo.

Tall-ish lanky brunette who keeps her hair in a ponytail iirc correctly.

>Sloppy rules and a game system that rewards spam over fluff builds is the issue
Not him, but 8th certainly does not encourage spam builds. A good list will have to have anti-hordes, anti-MC/vehicle and snipers at the very least to be competitive.

Or just take two Super-heavy Auxilliary Detachments ?

Warlocks are HQs now, you can buy them solo or as groups from 3-10

1.9685 inches in diameter.

Cool
What makes the Patrol game fun, the only narrative I've done is the Meat Grinder

>"If your army is Battle-forged..."
>IF

suck it up and lose the 3CP from having a Battle-forged army or have fun running 3 LOWs.

Best thing to do is just restrict detachments. Brigade/battalion detachments for example.

0.1125 roman cubits

the relic rule requires no more relics than non-relics in the same detachment.

about the size of a frozen Orida cheesy potato au-graten slice

Even a "no repeat" restriction wouldn't help because you get 5 fliers in the flight detachment.

That sounds pretty rough for tau players. Makes taking 1 or 2 support drones in a squad a liability.

Except it specificies "in a Detachment" not "in an Army"
That's my argument really is that they need to change the wording so that I can do exactly what you suggest

Off the top of my head, no. Originally, I thought about having them be a detachment sent to guard a station that was mining the ruins of Nostromo but that seemed a bit too far gone.

I started thinking about them fitting in Ultramar as it would justify them having experience in 'bug hunts' against Tyranids, too.

Otherwise, not entirely sure where I'd put them.

kek

Who is more desperate? The SoB players who insist a full army release is just around the corner or the Femarine 'fans' who insist femarines are just around the corner?

>about the size

Get out you pleb, we are giving only accurate measures ITT.

There is no room for guessestimating peasants like you.

anyone seen plasma coils painted red/ orange instead of blue?

I wanna try it on my salamanders

Forget scenarios. Maybe if the game had ATB/had interrupts instead of "I alphastrike you go", there were more options per unit so shooting wasn't "S5/S6 weight of fire, other units eat shit", shooting could only remove units in LOS, vehicles didn't have perfect 360 vision...

That, and losing infantry has a more immediate impact than shaving wounds off a vehicle.

Yeah, that was my thinking, especially since I don't need to worry about all but the most extensive countersniping since all my characters save the Datasmith autoregen D3, and Cawl can always patch up the Datasmith. A Vindicare struggles to kill a regular Dominus even if he never fails to hit or wound.

I play a lot of Blood Angels, who are vulnerable to snipers IIRC, plus Guardsmen and Tau, with a lot of misc MEQ. Hoping I can carve up their minor buffs easily enough. Anyone actually used Arquebi? Did they do a good job of things?

Dammit, Ironstriders should have got Sniper when stationary, it would fit their fluff of slowing to a stalk, blasting enemy commanders with heavy weapons through the press of men and then sprinting off instantly way better than the ability to Advance and Snap Fire uselessly. Finally a good way to represent that awesomeness and it's ignored, dammit GW.