So, Fenoxo games

>tfw i spend more time reading lore, exploring and talking to people than i do fucking things

I'll give it to you about New Texas. It's actually fascinating to me how players of the game are basically gently nudged into reacting to it the same as people in-universe. Everyone's like "this is the best planet ever, why would anyone not want to live in here?", and the physical descriptions always emphasize how pretty and idyllic and peaceful and cheerful everything is... then you read between the lines and what do you know, it's a gigantic people farm whose population has been indoctrinated to accept a cultural norm by which they are artificially turned into brainless cattle for the financial and sexual benefit of a genetically engineered elite.

They WANT you to think their planet is paradise. They want you to join them. Of course the dark shit would be beneath the surface.

You gonna have to provide some examples of the good ideas and decent world building going on rather than just claim it's there.

Corruption of Champions is a generic fantasy world with a bunch of races tossed there and no real explanation for anything about them, everything not connected to fucking hasn't really came up. You have a city where the creatures band together to escape the demons, but all the NPCs you find there are concern with dickings. Either being dicked, or more often, dicking you. That's their plotline. It's not like you can help a girl learn how to fight so she won't be a victim of rape again and then humanize her in the process and then by the end of the storyline you fuck. Usually the problem npcs have is related to their genitals and the solution is one of your orifices. Rarely, it's finding them a sex you or drinking enough potions that you are big enough to be a functional cocksleeve.

I love those games, don't get me wrong. But I don't pretend they are something they are not. I think they are many layers deviant smut barely held together by a narrative so that you have a way to go about finding the porny content. I like the smut, but that's what they are to me.

Now, I could be wrong so, so please explain to me, OP, what's good about their plot outside of the sex/smut/porn/fetish/futa area.

>You have a city where the creatures band together to escape the demons, but all the NPCs you find there are concern with dickings
That's my point. If you ignore the dickings for a moment, the idea of a city where several extremely different species banded together out of necessity because the rest of the world has been taken over by demons isn't by itself bad. If you use it like that in a campaign, I can see a lot of potential (racial tension, paranoia, etc.).

I also like the idea that the demonic invasion isn't just making things mundanely shitty in that world, it's slowly breaking down REALITY. The farther you go from the city, space, time, and the enviroment begin getting more and more demonic. It's like a slightly different take on Warhammer (or, well, Warhammer if the elves were foxpeople and Slaanesh was the most powerful god).

>what you're left with are actually pretty serviceable settings
No, no you are not. The writing is shit, the worldbuilding is shit, the porn is shit, the waifus are shit -- everything is shit. You are bad person with bad taste.

Fuck off Fenoxo.

we have to test this theory

Sounds like both of you are attributing depth to something that contains none. It can't be considered good worldbuilding if the Theme is not presented to the reader in some form. A lot of globalized fetishes of course will lead to dystopian societies that are genuinely fucked up to the core. But any thread about globalized fetishes on /d/ will show you that not only the idea of globalized fetishes exists, but people who partake in it as seldomly interested in the 'serious' moral and philosophical (or even just cultural) ramifications of the changes they propose.

New Texas to me is just such a case where someone with a pony-farm, cow girl fetish wrote a globalized scenario. There's no support or nudge aside from your headcanon that this is meant to be thought in depth.

I'll give you kudos for doing it, yes. But the merit is all yours and not Fenoxo's. You guys could just as easily look at the MCU, or any other universe of fiction and look for the untold stories and possible implications there. This doesn't convert in credit for good world-building for the writers unless they openly discussed that one the work, or nudged in that direction.

I don't know if it was inspired directly by CoC in retrospect but I did do something kinda similar to what they had set up with the Sand Witches, I guess? Like, there was a desert region inhabited by a secretive race of xenophobic humanoids (though in my case they were more genielike then sexy witches) which eventually turned out to be the result of ancient humans desperately modifying themselves more and more radically with magic in an attempt to survive the desertification of their region.

Then again, I could've just been channeling Dark Sun.

But...Now you just stripped down the idea to something that's basically a worn out cliche, and not fenoxo's genial worldbuilding. Last Bastion's are all over literally. "The last city of earth" or things like cities where all races live are not by any means new. What would give that idea some merit would be to flesh this out in a interesting way, which again, the game doesn't.

This is roughly the equivalent of me saying that Fenoxo is a good worldbuilder because CoC has mountains with monsters, and mountains are a very interesting thing to explore, and the monsters could be a metaphorical incarnation of the dangers of the enviroment or the fury of nature.

But in the end, you take out the rape and sex, and it's basically just mountains with monsters like every fantasy setting.

The only 'unique' things about the setting are smut related.

It's not even realms of chaos kinda weird even where it is odd. There's some odd bits but really, it would not be hard to make a better setting with similar themes of demonic corruption and the fight against it, even if keeping it fairly light in tone rather than going full warhammer on it.

>It can't be considered good worldbuilding if the Theme is not presented to the reader in some form.
It is. Several NPCs talk about the creepy aspects of New Texas, including a potential companion whose story is basically about it. It's just that their voices tend to get drowned out by the fetishism (which is perfectly emulative of the setting itself, which is all about trying to disguise the horror). Even when talking with happy and content New Texans, you often get those disturbing moments where the insanity gleams through (like that girl whose treatment went wrong somehow and actually gave her serious brain damage and now is being actively hidden by the other New Texans because they can't afford to show visitors that their dream society has that side)

I wasn't aware of that. That's a fair point in favor of Xir then.

Just to chime in here in support, yeah New Texas does get the 'jesus christ how horrifying' side of things brought up a lot too. For instance, the companion Reaha, if I remember right, is absolutely terrified of being left there if you try because she doesn't want to be forcibly and permanently turned into one of the cows there.

How many writers are involved in this stuff, though? Is it all basically written by one person, or do you have this one guy that tries to make an unironic bimbo paradise and a bunch of others who see how fucked up it is and add their own interpretation to the sidelines?

Basically, is the one that came up with New Texas to begin with in on the joke?

So what the hell is this shit? I get it's some sort of game, but what is it?

imgur of image?

I want to see the original pic, sauce me pls

It's a text based adventure rpg. It's made by a furry and has furry shit all over it along with other weird deviant stuff.

>There's decent worldbuilding going on

Haha no. They are pretty generic settings, and the worldbuilding is just acceptable at best.
I mean, take CoC for example:
>evil sorceress took over the world, called forth demons and people are slowly being corrupted!
>go, chosen one, defeat the demons and save the world!

And that's like Generic RPG LXVIII.

It's a planet that was colonized by slow boating out to it with out FTL warp gates. As the name implies the culture is heavily base on southern US stereotypes. Every one on the planet is given the Treatment when the hit puberty which for men typically results in them becoming big muscly chad bros and the women becoming bubbly bimbo ditz. Rare glitches in it result in hung femboys and amazons who may or may not end up growing a dick. It also jacks up everyone's sex drive.

So pointless fetish shit then.

It's 5 rows actually.

Just text or does it have any images?

Is this in CoC, TiTS or both though?

So there's New Te -

>ctrl+f

Oh. Okay then. You do know that ultimately the whole idea is basically just a cowgirl themed version of Uglies, yes? (Seemingly idyllic society where there exists a strong, brutally socially enforced cultural convention by which at a certain age everyone is modified in a way that makes them happier, more popular and more capable of leading a pleasant life while "incidentally" also rendering them submissive and stupid so that the social elite can rule unimpeded, and the system remains since everyone is either too stupid to realize it's awful or turned into a social pariah if they try to criticize it)

TiTS, can't remember what the max is in CoC, been a while since I played it.

Not really. There are only low quality sprites for the NPCs

I'd go as far as to say that almost everyone from outside NT who isn't obviously drinking the Kool-Milk thinks of the place as a fucked up commune of preachy freaks. It's only on the planet where everyone is suspiciously gracious and accommodating and happy to fuck you and have you considered trying out Treatment you'll feel much better once you do honest?

Meant for

Pretty much just texts. Most character's have busts and many have versions from different artists you can choose between but the busts aren't a huge focus and are just a box on the side. As to who has busts and how many is a matter of who was convenient to add at the time but they do have artists on pay roll working to add more. That said there are several artists who have churned out a decent amount of fan art.

The one thing that bums me about New Texas is there's not enough "adventure"y content. I get that in universe they've deliberately set up a theme park version of the Old West with the unpleasant parts removed, but dammit, I want to ride around on my hover halftrack shooting Injun buffalo men with a laser shotgun.

Well I mean it's point is to entertain anyone who is interested in that fetish. No need to be a dick about it and try to act superior.

Sorry but all the dangerous adventure left 'round here is wrangling some Varmints with an energy lasso.

>brain damaged girl
Where's she?

Latest update placed her near the pub, iirc. Her Treatment had a bad reaction to some mundane biomod used in her job and it fried her brain so she can't speak (she grunts, moans, and moos, because it's still TiTS). So the other New Texans calmly placed her in an out of the way menial labor position where she wouldn't creep out tourists.

New Texas near the Bucking Bronco Saloon. Her name is Brandy. She added in 0.7.30something I think.

It's a pointless fetish game.

But the """lore""" reason for it is because most of the colonists either died in space or could not adapt to the treacherous wildlife. So they made them tougher and hornier to survive. Only problem is, their leadership was a corrupt, family owned business, so naturally, they changed the purpose of the treatment to suit their own ends.

More like Generic RPG LXIX

That's unexpectedly grim.

Yeah, hard to fap when you're also contemplating the ethics of profits and unofficial dictatorship.

I just want to help them out.

I hope a future patch allows me to stage a rebellion, put the corrupt bourgeois to the guillotine, and take the world to a better and more equal future where everyone is actually smart.

Good luck when everyone's either in on it or literal cattle.

For you, maybe. Me, I get off to unethical business practices.

truly patrician

A-Ayn Rand?

sauce ?

Holy shit, this WOULD explain an awful lot.

Has anyone brought up yet that the government on New Texas has to dope the water supply with weak contraceptives to keep the population level under control because most people there are lacking in the ability and/or desire to practice safe sex and are constantly fucking? Luckily future medicine has more or less eliminated STDs in the core worlds like New Texas.

Did the fact it was an a game with the acronym TiTS (a follow-up to CoC) not clue you in to the fact you should be expecting fetish shit?

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Np, if you want that particular image just filter for commissions and it'll be in the middle halfway down on page 4. It's the one with the moosetuar getting boned by the raccoon /d/girl.

>moosetuar getting boned by the raccoon /d/girl.

>Sentences I never thought I'd read when I woke up this morning.

>moosetuar getting boned by the raccoon /d/girl.

What the fuck am I reading

You know where you are
You've seen worse.

>Sentences I never thought I'd read when I woke up this morning.
Heh.

>What the fuck am I reading
An accurate description.

Oh absolutely. I've seen some shit. /d/-lite never fails to get weird.

But still. Did not expect that, even though this is a thread about Fenoxo's work...

I think the last time I played TiTS it was still in like pre-alpha or whatever, just a few encounters. New Texas definitely wasn't a thing at that point.

Ayn Rand held individual rights as sacred user. Get your head out of your post modernist professors ass hole.

2 or 3 years later and it's still pre-alpha while he waffles on with pointless side characters. It's a porn game which people pay him for updating this way so I don't know what I should expect.

Heresy

Trails in the Sky was hardly a fetishy JRPG, but ended up with the same unfortunate acronym

I missed with

Won't happen since NT is one of the writers's (Not Fenoxo) darling. There was a shitstorm on the forum a while back calling him out on unironically seeing nothing inherently creepy about the whole concept. Hornier heads prevailed and now people just grudgingly accept it and try not to think too hard about it.

Actually in the legal shit Fen specifies that in submitting stuff to be in his game you are forgetting control to it and other people can write for and add to stuff to it as long as Fen approves it. So that user or some other could write it him self and if it's well done it could end up in the game.

>has anyone tried/thought of trying/thought of trying then thought

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Again? I remember this happening a fair bit ages ago in CoC way back He has a habit of attracting this shit. Of course, that was before he added in the legal clause saying anything that makes it into the game is his to use at his leisure. What's different now? Does he just not want to scare away a productive writer?

>has anyone tried/thought of trying/thought of trying then thought better of it
>then thought better of it
Don't be doubly retarded just because someone else is being retarded

>Once you strip down all the futa furries and fetish from Corruption of Champions or (even moreso, in my opinion, Trials in Tainted Space)... what you're left with are actually pretty serviceable settings.
You mean generic

CoC has nothing going for it in that department aside from a few concepts but no meat. TiTS does better though, not anything to write home about but I like that New Texas wasn't the vapid paradise it was pretending to be

Fenoxo is trying to make money. He has to sell what people are willing to buy. He depends on donations and people donate when he appeals to their fetishes. If he wants to advance the plot but all people want is for him to produce 10,000 additional words worth of futa scenes for their favorite furry waifu, this is what he'll make.

So it's not an annoyance or anything for Fenoxo this time? From the post earlier it was implied that it wasn't a wanted thing, but if Fenoxo doesn't care then I guess I don't either since that means the system is working

Oh I know, I was just pointing out in that if some one else took the time to write it one of the coders could add it to the game. So it's not likely to happen but it could happen, unlike in CoC where Fen didn't assume legal control of all content going into the game.

If I had to make an adventure out of New Texas, I'd go with the Wild West cowboy vs Indian theme. Everything's based on omnipresent biomodification/brainwashing, right? Say that it failed with some of the early versions, turning some of the early colonists into 'roided up, feral savages who are impossible to put down for good because all the illegal fertility boosters in the Treatment mean they breed too fast. In typical New Texas fashion they've dealt with this by confining the ferals to remote regions of their planet where tourists won't see them and every once in a while they send out Rangers to cull the feral population a bit.

The first part would consist of some wide open planetary exploration, maybe using some kind of vehicle (big plains of New Texas, swarming with feral bull men), culminating in a "dungeon" in the form of the husk of the old colony ship where there are surviving records of the early days of the colony and how their experiments with biomodification turned the planet into what it is today. The evidence could implicate the planetary governor's (whatshisname, the guy in the suit) ancestors with some bona fide crimes against humanity-tier shit, and once you get them you'll have the option of either giving them to him for a ginormous bribe or releasing them to the public and bringing about the beginning of the end for the New Texan system.

And it was only about halfway through this shit that I realized I was rehashing the plot of Serenity

Original or not, this is a cool idea that's nevertheless not going to happen. Fenoxo has outright said that New Texas will never be relevant to the plot and never include any substantial "adventuring" type content. It was added to the game purely to accommodate the wishes of some seriously heavy donators (IIRC) and its sole purpose is to serve as a fun distraction from the rest of it. It's sex scenes as far as the eye can see, and while there is some interesting plot underneath them it isn't going to go anywhere.

Uh.... well the issue with that story is that the Treatment is already illegal everywhere but NT and considered a borderline crime against humanity by alot of people. No one does anything about it though because it's a wealthy and very independent colony and no one can be arsed to stir up shit about it.

I've actually wanted for some time to create a fantasy setting where various kinds of animal people replace elves and dwarfs and so on but while CoC is an example of that it's also a very good example of why it'll never work. I keep thinking "Aesop's Metamorphoses and the folkloric tradition of anthropomorphic animals symbolic of various aspects of human nature", but all anyone's ever going to see is "fucking furries"/"furries fucking".

I thought there was some legal ambiguity involved? Kind of like South Africa's slavery issue or Israel's nuclear weapons, where everyone knows it's going on but there's some kind of technical detail with the UN definition of "genocide" or some shit that means they can't do anything?

Nah, it's literally just plain old greed. New Texas makes the Galactic Federation (or whatever the government is called) too much money.

Well the legal ambiguities like you describe are typically intentionally created to dodge responsibility to intervene because the people in charge can't be arsed to stir up shit like I said. Especially the UN one.

I think they basically went 'oh well it's a cultural thing so we'll leave it alone' on the basis that they didn't want to rock the boat with someone giving them lots and lots of money. That and maybe the nightmare it'd be to try to unfuck an entire planet of this shit.

>>Sentences I never thought I'd read when I woke up this morning.
Have another

>I've actually wanted for some time to create a fantasy setting where various kinds of animal people replace elves and dwarfs
Good luck with that

Just go play Ironclaw like everyone else.

Isn't that an example of what user said he didn't want?

If you conflate "fucking furries" with Ironclaw, you're pretty much just parroting dead memes and missing out on a genuinely good system.

I was about to take you seriously until you called Ironclaw a "good system". What is it about it you like, the absolutely laughably wonky dice mechanic, the overcomplicated yet at the same time severely limited character creation system or the fact that combat clearly went through zero testing whatsoever?

Ironclaw is considered a "good system" mostly because of the inevitable comparison to PF Fursona, compared to which it is a fucking masterpiece.

>"Aesop's Metamorphoses and the folkloric tradition of anthropomorphic animals symbolic of various aspects of human nature"
That sounds like an okay idea until you realize that fox civilization is going to have to revolve entirely around acting like a childish idiot.

I bet you like grapes.

>This race are the Gygians. They have the power to go invisible
>they are immoral perverts with no responsibility

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