8Th ed lists

Right when 8th came out i moved to a new city and dont have my 40k buddies to test out lists with. What are people rocking as the new standard list size? Like it used to be 1850ish, what are people playing now?
And what about pwr levels? Is it better to go by them or points?

Power levels aren't really all that balanced between armies it seems. I think most people seem to be rocking either 1000 or 2000 pt lists

> orks are still garbage
> chaos still garbage
> sisters still garbage
> Marines are even more bland then ever but still everywhere.
Not a hole lot has changed op

Also guard no longer platoons so have fun looking half your army when your opponent looks at them.

>Orks are garbage

Lol what?

Being a imperial player (ill only ever take like a squad of marines) when it comes to list building what should i watch out for?

Oh look, an idiot.

Boy that's a strong counter argument. I tell you what

If that is your vendetta, the rules for vendetta are now forgeworld (Imperial Armor Astra Militarum)
Much has changed with army composition, i.e. Special Weapon squad is now elite, heavy weapon squad is heavy support, but scions are troops.
u might need a few platoon/company commanders to give orders.
bullgryn might be useful. (Can get slapshield and maul now (slapshield gives them a 2+ armor save))
grenade launchers and flamers are useful now.

many things can deepstrike more than 9' away and charge, so you might want some speedbumb units.

Hellhounds with 2 flamers are really really good.

everything can move and fire a heavy at -1BS. This unfortunately includes vehicles.

Snipers can target characters even if they are not the nearest model. Good thing we get tons of them. (Characters no longer can be attached to squads, some abilites now affect models/units within 6')

Oh and you can split fire at will so the leman russ battlecannon can fire at one squad, and its 3 heavy bolters at another 3 different squads.