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‘Saviour Protocols: If a Drones unit is within 3" of a friendly Infantry or Battlesuit unit when an enemy attack successfully wounds it, you can allocate that wound to the Drones unit instead of the target. If you do, that Drones unit suffers a mortal wound instead of the normal damage.’
So what's the point of shield drones then if you can't take their invuln save? Great design team.
Matthew Clark
Sweet
Nathan Gutierrez
How are you guys reacting to the no-minimum-squad-sizes in matched play rules change? Is matched play totally fucked? I think it's narrative or bust for me.
Benjamin Roberts
It is the most playtested. Seeing as the other ones weren't at all and had some insane retardation.
Parker Thomas
>I think Night Lords are pretty similar at least. Both are just brutal assholes for the hell of it.
And that's one thing I love. Chaos keeps focusing on the "LOL YOUR A SLAVE TO CHAOS NOW" instead of the whole "Ambitious master of their own fate through the use of dark powers" Kinda thing like Red Corsairs and stuff.
Carter Jones
Its a shitty gameplay choice instead of making a fluffy ruling
Adrian Bennett
Wew the ork nerf came sooner than i had thought
Aaron Anderson
HA HA
TIME FOR CLOWN CARS
Hudson Cooper
Q. The Ork Battlewagon’s Mobile Fortress ability says the Battlewagon ‘ignores the penalty for moving and firing Heavy weapons’. Its Open-topped ability says that ‘restrictions and modifiers that apply to this model also apply to its passengers’. Does that mean that a unit embarked also ignores the penalty for firing Heavy weapons if the battlewagon has moved? A. No.
Welp, there goes Flash Gitz as an option.
Brandon Clark
Acolytes good options. FAQ comes Acolytes even more worthless than guardsmen
This archive doesn't want to open for me for some reason. Can somebody check it?
Logan Evans
(Fucking system thinking my post is spam...) P L A Y T E S T E D >P L A Y T E S T E D P L A Y T E S T E D >P L A Y T E S T E D
But seriously, are my GK Librarians allowed to take Stormshields because the index says "refer to the Librarian in Terminator armor page" but also refer to the "Grey Knight Weapon list". It says nothing about the ranged weapon which is the slot that storm shields take up.
Sebastian Johnson
>Death Guard are a bit 'meh', no real reason to turn to Chaos other than 'lol and then it happened'.
Typhus causing the majority of their fleet to be flooded with warp plague, yanno, whatever
Henry Kelly
It's a silly rule though. Seriously, PP figured out "remove from play" versus "trigger on kill" yeads ago...
Brayden Rogers
so you I can have a detachment of: HQ - 1 grot spanner elites - 6*2 squig bombs
ALL OF MY WAAAAAGHT?
William Price
>Q. What does within 1" mean? Does it mean any distance up to 1", or does it mean any distance up to and including 1"? >A. It means any distance up to and including 1".
This is on the level of "Can my building Scout?"
Liam Jones
Yeah, 'and then it happened lol'.
'Lol Typhus strands the entire fleet lmao'.
Suddenly and without buildup aside from the convenient 'surviving poisons and shit' from their backstory.
Matthew White
>You can only include one of this kind of unit in your army. Rules fucker. Read em.
Christopher Ward
Fuck, I forgot to remove my name.
Jacob Long
READIN IZ FOR HUMIES HUMIES IZ GROTZ
well thank god that the restriction is there tho
Samuel James
They'll work fine against small arms fire but it'll be worth sacrificing them agains things like las canons.
Caleb Bennett
maybe they work well in games that use power levels.
Henry Sanders
I am not seeing it. What changed?
Nolan Reed
The faq still doesnt address the fact that a warlord titan cant attack a grot in the second level of a ruin in close combat
Bentley Brooks
It's an ability for all drones. If you're taking shield drones just for the extra wounds, you're doing it wrong
Julian Smith
Wonder if GW thinks SoB are a melee army. Most of the Imperium 2 is to make sure the girls get their melee weapons.
Also make AoF even more hard to use
Brandon Scott
D-does she wear her battle dress underneath?
Austin Kelly
This lets me bring nothing but the heavy weapon Scarab Occult Termi which is hilarious from the unit
Ryan Adams
>primarch guilliman, please use all your tactical acumen to tell us how to best utilise this mighty warlord battle titan >tell it to go punch that grot over there
Cooper Bailey
If anything they are shit against small arms fire since a lasgun shot is still a mortal wound if passed on.
Jace Bell
READ.
Jacob Torres
Its terrible that Typhus was the one who did it. Old lore was basically 'and then Nurgle picked this opportunity to fuck with Mortarion'. Typhus just comes off as a massive troll for the lulz as a result.
Liam Allen
that is why you take the inv save instead
Zachary Barnes
Kill points are kill points you inbred retard.
Jackson Robinson
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Zachary White
Avatar of Kaine: Molten Body - Roll a D6 whenever the Avatar of Kaine suffers a wound or mortal wound, on a 5+ that wound is ignored
Stimulant Injector - Roll a dice each time a model equipped with a stimulant injector suffers a wound or mortal wound. On a roll of a 6, ignore it
Disgustingly Resilient - Each time this model loses a wound, roll a d6; on a roll of a 5 or 6, it does not lose that wound
Goddammit, gotta sell models I guess
Michael Barnes
jesus christ the rules for cover are so fucking bad
the barricade rules in the faq are extra retarded i wish gw would decide if this is a model based or a unit based game FFS
>‘When a model targets an enemy Infantry unit that has all of its models within 1" of a barricade, the target unit receives the benefit of cover if the attacking model is closer to the barricade than it is to the target.’ cant wait to be resolving the shooting of a 30 man unit of shootas with these sort of rules
Thomas Davis
I don't see that
Jeremiah Powell
Invulnerable saves don't work on mortal wounds.
Matthew Martinez
You can't take invulns against mortal wounds, dipshit. A S3 AP0 Lasgun Shot, when allocated onto a drone, becomes a mortal wound that cannot be saved under any circumstances, instantly killing the Drone.
Jonathan Torres
Someone's angry. Have you tried being less mad?
Anthony Gray
>needing pic related
For what purpose?
Ayden King
Tank in a hedge, but halfway visible? Cover. Tank on a road, only visible by the dozer blade? No cover.
Joshua Smith
...
Grayson Powell
nerfing, goddamn phoneposter
Thomas Jones
yeah
imagine explaining this to a new players would be the quickest 180 youd ever see in your life
Ryan Anderson
The quality of the weapon doesn't matter, a mortal wound is a mortal wound. There is no point whatsoever to take shield drones over gun drones with this errata.
Parker Long
Why are opinions so torn on Autocannons?
I see some people say they're utter shit without application, and some claim they're the absolute best all rounder in the game and always worth taking
Isaac Sanders
Aren't snazzguns assault weapons?
Daniel Bailey
no because that would make flash gitz a semi playable unit
cant have that
Adam Perez
I'm not sure how many, but there are quite a few books inside. I would really appreciate your help.
Ryan Perez
Why *wouldn't* you take shield drones prior to this errata? The chance to negate a lascannon shot on a 4+ was the whole point, shield drones are utterly useless now.
Christopher Wood
My bad, thought you meant it was in the FAQ and was confused
Guess I'll bring 1 Scarab Termi, 1 Normi Termi and 1 DG termi with their heavy weapons
Robert Ramirez
Ok, I'm sorry. From the few games I have played agains Tau I was under the impression that the shield drones gave the unit they were shielding an inv save.
Isaac Ward
see
Mason Fisher
how much does an avarge w40k army cost?
Kevin Cox
HERESY
Luke Edwards
Still no ruling on if smite can be used in melee, or if it can target those in melee
Grayson Butler
Depends on points, army kind and stuff
for every 500pt, anywhere from $50 to $300
Mason Brown
Less than a trophy wife
Joseph Nelson
>An animalistic growl came from the gue’ron’sha’s helm. The Imperial warrior put his shoulder down, drew a chainsaw blade, and charged. >Bravestorm grinned fiercely as the Space Marine’s long strides ate up the distance between them. The gue’ron’sha was planning to get in close. >A microdec passed, and the commander eye-blinked a sub-routine he had waited a long time to use. >The XV8 took a stride forward, pivoting hard at the waist. Bravestorm’s massive onager gauntlet swung out in a backhand blow. The Space Marine’s blade was swept aside. The battlesuit gauntlet caught him in a full body blow, crushing gun and warrior alike against the lateral wall of the corridor. >Bravestorm resumed his gun stance, already firing by the time the gue’ron’sha’s mangled corpse fell in a disorderly pile to the ground.
space marines losing to tau in melee we melee race now
Parker James
price, probably
You can get two heavy bolters for about the same.
Chase Turner
Starting a SM army. Planning to go Imperial Fists. Are tactical marines even worth getting? because bolters seem kind of shit.
Andrew Bailey
Fucked if I know, they were actually in a decent spot and the +1A compensated for the lack of Pistol/CCW attack. Dammit.
Jackson Turner
Anyone else feels the FAQ intentionally fuck up non marine armies?
Luke Reed
Wait. WAT.
So...my IG Brigades get even cheaper?
Troops = Understrength Infantry Squad, 1 guy 4pts
Elites = Understrength Special Weapons Squad, 1 guy, 4 pts
HS = Understrength Heavy Weapons Squad, 2 dudes w a mortar, 9 pts
FA = Understrength Rough Riders Squad, 1 guy w lance, 10 pts This can't possibly be right.
Austin Cooper
No, tacmarines are the worst troop choice in the game right now. At least CSM's get a buff depending on what god they chose.
Lincoln Mitchell
They are good objective grabbers with combat squads
Dylan Bailey
Not really. What sort of things specifically?
Anthony Peterson
Because there doesn't need to be one. Psykic rules don't check for melee.
Wyatt Morales
Are there really idiots out there that think Tau should never ever beat a Space Marine in combat even though it happens all the time on tabletop and regular humans have been depicted doing it (nevermind that its a suit using a onager gauntlet)
Camden Torres
NIGGA. RRRREEEEEAAAADDDD.
Dominic Baker
Of course it can, why couldn't it
Parker Fisher
Advice on a tank army I'm the current edition?
Aaron Jones
what is the standard points range for w40k, then? 1000-1500pts or more? I understand of course that there are armies that have more models, then other. how much is an avarge army 20-30 models?
Henry Sanchez
If I'm reading the faq right, Assault Squads can take plasma and meltaguns now. I'm new, in the process of assembling a squad and wondering which weapon to go for. Plasma sounds like the better choice since you can drop them in rapid fire range.
Kayden Martin
Don't
Ryder Cooper
go flyers, DE or marines
Carson White
>Many of those humans that complied with the tau, whether directly or through the complicity of inaction, now work the machineries above the magma lakes as indentured slaves. Their fate is a slow asphyxiation, or perhaps a quick and agonising death by scalding when the machineries inevitably malfunction. >The strongest citizens, the heaviest set, have instead been chemically lobotomised and rebuilt as battle servitors. Their lower halves are cut away and replaced by track units even as their arms are replaced by weapons of war. The most dextrous, those who pass the Trial by Knives with all their limbs and digits intact, are instead sent to work their fingers bloody in the weapons shops. Those who fall asleep at their stations, or even so much as raise their heads, soon find an electro-scourge descending to encourage them back to work. All the while these poor benighted fools are lambasted by deafening Imperial catechisms and hypno-psalms, blasted from rank upon rank of laud hailers. These are ostensibly to reaffirm an errant people’s faith in the one true creed, but it is more likely they are intended to shred what is left of their willpower. Tried and tested Imperial bombast, designed to break a man body and soul so those who witness their fate never stray a single foot from their designated roles.
nope, we still got turbo grimdark in 40k
Ayden Cook
you still pay the points for the missing guys and guns and you can only have one unit as such
Sebastian Jenkins
oh, just saw the one type.
So 0-1 understrength X unit. Still saves on a lot of points.
>Lone Bullgryn >Lone Rough Rider >Lone Ratling
This is a bit abusable as long as you have slots available.
Landon Richardson
That's how they we're in the vanilla index, and the errata came out what, just now?
Xavier Diaz
Tournament used to be 1850, looks like the new 8th standard is 2000
Friendly play 1000, 1500 and 2000 are the most common
Logan Allen
Just to make sure, you are playing blood angels, right?
Connor Cox
Full devastator squads seem better.
William White
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Eli Harris
>you still pay the points for the missing guys and guns
No, you don't
>and you can only have one unit as such
That is correct
Carter Howard
Veeky Forums I need your help. I love the wargame and having painted models, but I can't focus on painting for shit. What's a good, low model count army so I can actually power through and have a painted army?
Chase Ross
so a 2000pts army costs around 250-300$ on avarge?
Adrian Diaz
Thanks for the easy killpoint. >They're all separate units
Dylan Turner
Blood angels only, although you could just ally them in.
Brandon Collins
whoops, I didn't read like the cancer I am
Lincoln Davis
Grey knights. Fairly simple paint scheme too.
Nathaniel Garcia
Oh I should've mentioned that, yes!
Jaxson Adams
Necrons using Immortals?
Elite Chaos, using Termies and Chosen?
Grey Knights?
Hudson Cruz
Ahhhhahahaha all the IG waacfags buying up tempestus command squads got btfo
Reecius was right all along. Get fucked
Jacob Jackson
Harlequins Deathwatch Monster-heavy Nods Any Terminator or bike army
Anthony Lopez
I took it as typhus throwing the entire crew under the bus and the only way out of that situation was to sell their souls to the devil, so to peak.