>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android: >Everything 8th edition in pdf(and epub), SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels. mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
>tau men both times >those genestealer numbers gave me a chuckle
Jason Young
just started my imperial guard army, what am i in for?
David Adams
Alright you buttblasted faggots. Who do you think is looking topnotch in 8th now that we have all had at least a few games?
Ethan Gray
Conscripts, conscripts everywhere
Asher Collins
Super Church Friends till the FAQ.
Alexander Fisher
A soul crushing edition of batch painting conscripts
Luke Martinez
i enjoy the painting, belive it or not
aye, human wave attacks all around
Isaiah Diaz
Seeing as people seem to have problems with how shite artillery is in this edition, but many also don't want to go back to templates of rape I think I've come up with a compromise.
How about an artillery weapon does 1 hit per model in a unit (To a cap suitable to the caliber of gun, eg. 5 for mortars, 10 for basilisk 20 for some super heavy artillery gun.) Then, you roll to hit on each of those at a BS that is worse than the standard for the faction (This represents the fact that artillery isn't the most accurate thing in the world, especially indirect fire).
This way, artillery guns aren't masters of rape against single targets (Which makes no sense) but are also not crap at killing hordes, which is pretty much their purpose.
Juan Gonzalez
Glory
Ryder Morris
user from the last thread. Drop battlewagon for a trukk then get lootas?
Orks 1500pts -Biker boss 111 Klaw -Weirdboy 62 -Big mek 100 Sag
-15 sluggas 99 big choppa -17 shootas 121 Big shoota, kustom shoota, big choppa -10 gretchin 30
-6 tank bustas 127 Just rokkits -3 meganobz 162 -10 kommandos 115 Two burnas, klaw
-Dakka jet 148 6 supa shootas -4 war bikers 117 Big choppa
-2 mek gunz + grotz 96 Two Kustom mega kannonz -Battle wagon 212p Killikannon, four big shootas
Isaac Robinson
Tau. You're not taking out a unit of suits, especially with drones, and then they fall back and still shoot you and if you live there goes another round of overwatch.
Tyler King
Does anyone know -roughly- how many Points (not power) the Dark Imperium box set Primaris add up to?
Eli Sanders
Any faction that can spam a cheap model that puts out a lot of low quality dakka or chopping.
IG Conscripts Chaos Brimstones Dark Eldar Razorwing Flocks Ork Boyz Tyranid Conscripts etc, etc.
Carson James
But the question is would you enjoy painting 200+ conscripts?
Luis Walker
So what are the chances that a codex will make gsc a playable standalone army?
Brody Brown
Tau suck, my nigga. Name one thing they do that another army can't do better.
Ethan Russell
I seems harsh if you're forced to go vs single targets.
Maybe roll an extra d6/d3 for every ten models then pick the highest?
Brandon Hill
Roughly between 100-1000 points.
Robert Diaz
Turn 1 tarpit with drones while skipping overwatch Turn 1 precise deep strike into melta range Turn 1 flamer spam deep strike.
Lucas King
yeah, i would rope a mate in to help me with that. is 200 a normal game size then?
Brody Butler
>Tyranid Conscripts
What about the Super Church friends?
Isaiah Thomas
All this conscription, theyre good for screening and nothing else, guardsman infantry make for better screening and firepower.
Jose Gutierrez
Small Blasts = max 5 attacks Large Blasts = max 10 attacks 10" = max of 15 attacks
To Hits = -1 BS (if weapon doesn't need LOS)
Ignores cover from % obscurity
How'd it pan out? >Heavy Mortar Teams end up *slightly* worse as they have 1.66 hits vs. 1.75 hits
Landon Murphy
What is that?
Aiden Hernandez
Savior protocols.
Isaac James
Tyranids can spam both termagants and conscripts.
But which??
Christopher Nguyen
>Gants cost more and both are more fragile and worse at killing things
Gee I wonder
Isaiah Jenkins
Conscripts are cheaper. They make for an excellent screening unit protecting your nidzilla gunline.
Jaxon Edwards
>Tau'nar has BATTLESUIT keyword >Drones can protect BATTLESUITS >Drones can sacrifice themselves to protect the Tau'nar
Austin Rodriguez
Termagants. Devourer bombs have the highest kill count at my lgs. Even above the Baneblades.
Landon Gutierrez
I'm working on a homebrew to implement "alternating activations" in 40k, since 8e is now "igougo, except in the fight phase". Still working on tweaking/streamlining it. Looking for ideas/feedback either way.
"Move" is more for reckless charges/repositioning. I'm thinking of making the 3" move "only for melee attacks", with being able to fire pistols/assault weapons at a unit you're engaged in melee with (so Breachers/Psychodakkablastas/etc).
Alternately, I might just streamline it so you choose a "move stance" (advance, optionally reckless or cautious), with the option to make an attack action anytime during your move (only one ranged attack action per turn though).
Thoughts one way or another?
Henry King
Basically, Ministorum, Sororitas, Inquisition, SoS, and Psykers, maybe Scion if you count Schola for fluff reason.
T3 armies that are not Admech or IG.
Thomas Ramirez
Sisters of battle were great, but got hit hard with the new FAQ arbitrarily nerfing them (seriously, d3 on handflamers why?)
I think you can do a good army with them, but it won't be top tier.
Nicholas Wright
How are the drones protecting it if it's not a BATTLESUITS unit?
Eli Peterson
Termagants aren't worse at killing things when equipped with devourers, in fact they're better. But it doubles the model cost.
Basically if points conscripts, if power termagants because free devourers.
Jackson Taylor
Page 242 – Understrength Units Change the second paragraph to read: ‘If you are using Power Ratings, you must still pay the Power Rating cost as if you had a minimum-sized unit, even though it contains fewer models. If you are using points, you only pay the points for the models you actually have in an understrength unit (and any wargear they are equipped with). An understrength unit still takes up the appropriate slot in a Detachment.’
So, can I legally take a Big Mek w/Grot Oiler (And only bring the oiler), a Big Mek in Mega Armour w/Grot Oiler (And only bring the oiler) and a Big Mek on Bike w/Grot Oiler (And only bring the oiler) for 3 Ork HQ's for 4 points each? The Oilers aren't wargear, they are additional models in the unit with profiles and everything.
Brandon Sanders
I've got to say, I have a stake in this as I fucking hate the increased randomness of shots that 8th has brought. It's like they listened to all the Ork players complaining about how random their weapons were and went "So.....you think EVERYONE should have this?"
I would prefer flat numbers of shots against specific targets, maybe have it as number of wounds in a unit to show that bigger targets are easier to hit with arty but that doesn't work when Random Mcfucknuts the Space Marine Captain can have several wounds despite being physiologically identical to a random space marine.
Ian Fisher
What are the best sources nowadays to order recasts?
Reddit seems to be pretty crappy for trying to get information on it.
Adam Howard
Or how hard it is to make AoF work now that Vehicles can't get them even though the rulebook allow it.
Cooper King
/r/yoyhammer/ ?
Alexander Young
No. Stop being retarded, and read the paragraph before it.
1. You can only take one understrength unit. 2. Even if you could somehow take more than one understrength unit, it would still be impossible to do so, because you have to include all models you have available in each unit. Which is impossible with 2 units. Every model in unit 2 is required to be in 1, and vice versa.
Matthew Morris
Nobody fucking knows Just play fucking whatever its goddamn eighth edition motherfucker
Asher Adams
>memewing player Use your noggin, blue assholes are still deleting entire units a turn.
Tyler Martinez
It's a BATTLESUIT so they can shield and, for the dx-4's, repair it.
Ayden Scott
Fucking this Fire warriors with ethereal and fireblade support fucking op
Owen Russell
Bitch I did read it.
"if this is the case, you can still include one unit of that type in your army with as many models as you have available"
OF
THAT
TYPE
You can have as many understrength units as you want, but only one of each type, you dumb nigger.
Nolan Morris
950~, not too bad overall
Hunter Lewis
>If you are using points, you only pay the points for the models you MUST STILL PAY THE POINTS COST AS IF YOU HAD A MINIMUM-SIZED UNIT
1/8
Enjoy those superpriced Oilers.
Noah Howard
The new 1850 (2000) beside forcing me to take a fat cow, just took a single squad with their Immolator.
The game hardly change for me. It still plays basically the same for my army and play style.
Brandon Jackson
Hey dipshit, there was errata. Are you so fucking retarded that you can't read?
Brody Roberts
Sometimes I worry about the human race.
Robert Mitchell
Can't decide if I want my dudes to be Imperial Fists or Iron Hands successors
What should I do Veeky Forums? Sway me one way or the other
Brody Wilson
Iron Hands for the simple fact that no-one else does them and Imperial Fists are colossal faggots who are a bitch to paint.
Caleb Scott
But the rule literally says you're only allowed to do that when "you may find that you do not have enough models to field a minimum-sized unit"
If a know that a person does have a full unit of something, but fields it under-strength to gain some kind of advantage, I will call him out on it.
Ian Nelson
I'd play this guy, grot bosses are too funny a concept to pass up.
Angel Roberts
>can't decide if I want massive diarrhea as a result of eating 3 chiptotle burritos or an entire pizza hut pizza
Evan Jenkins
>Calls out page in big rule book in OP. >doesn't mention FAQ or Errata in OP. >Gets called out, that isn't what is actually printed. >But there was an ERRATA.
Hey, you got me, I didn't see the errata. So you're correct an can get HQ slots for 4pts with Orks.
Good job. You got me.
Carson Wright
Well technically he still doesn't have the models to field the proper amount of models in multiple units
I know it is a That Guy thing to do, but expect some retardation in tournaments if the organizer are retarded like GW.
Parker Evans
Unless you're stalking them, how can you prove they own the models? All they have to do is temporarily sell them to his cousin Carlos and say "Carlos won't let me borrow them." and there isn't a fucking thing you can do about it, you waacfag.
John Brooks
Ok, so what army currently is the top tier with the indexes? I hear Tyranids and Orks are now quite good, haven't heard anything on Eldar and I know Chaos is shafted again being a R&H player.
Alexander Harris
Imperial Fists have pretty nice fluff and all, but it is hard to take them serious when they walk around looking like bananas.
Zachary Hughes
The FAQs and Errata are in the OP and are common knowledge you dumb cunt.
Julian Butler
>(seriously, d3 on handflamers why?) BA hand flamers were always D3. It was a typo. Try Inferno pistols. And the FAQ buffed Sisters in a number of ways.
Justin Phillips
What buffs?
Cameron Anderson
>Calling people out on abusing a rule is being a WAACfag
Do you live in Australia or something ?
Oliver Foster
That was clearly unintended rules lawyering. Buy some fucking HB Rets.
Brayden Rogers
Chimeric Sucessor with both Iron Hands and Imperial Fists gene-seed
>The Imperial Hands Or >The Iron Fists
Robert James
Do the drones effect BATTLESUIT units as well as BATTLESUITS units?
You know those aren't the same keyword.
Benjamin Gonzalez
You can always darken em up with a worn yellow that's bit dirtier from battle
Jordan Johnson
so... games workshop ruined the nice online list builder... wtf do I do now? Battlescribe is absolute ass
Dominic Wilson
But the real question is which units benefit from Old One Eye's aura.
Mason Myers
Keywords are pluralised all the time, especially the CHARACTER keyword.
Juan Wilson
Microsoft Word, a Calculator, and a few brain cells
Also I could be lazy and run 3 Exorcist with a Cow next to them for re-rolls like
Dylan Thomas
>Using the absolute dogshit made by Forge World.
Nathan Price
WAACfaggotry is pretending to sell models to your cousin so you can field an understrength unit.
Anyway this is the fucking wu tang shit all over again. I know we're all neckbeards here but nobody is actually a big enough autist to do these things in real life.
Noah Wright
Battlescribe is fine.
Brody Perez
well wow, that sounds good and intuitive thanks games workshop
Easton Hill
Recast them then you dumb nigger.
Juan Powell
GW still hasn't done anything to my pen and paper notebook.
Ryder Gutierrez
>Can't make a list without a builder You need to be 18 to post here.
Alexander Price
>brain cells So /40kg/ is fucked?
Liam Foster
That's because they're different keywords. Pretending otherwise is cheating.
Daniel Murphy
Oh You!
Wyatt Hill
>Sounds like a butthurt Gue'la that knows their Titans are inferior to the new kids on the block.
Joseph Roberts
Strap a deff rolla on that battlewagon
Levi Turner
>put keywords >not use them for model interactions
I actually thought it was intentional, since Imagifier are rather pointless unless you have 4+ squad of shooty long range SoB.
Jonathan Cox
Can you spot my gigantic retarded assembly mistake I didn't spot till AFTER painting it? How's your builds lads?
Lincoln Collins
Death Guard termies when ?
Connor Cruz
What are some faction introducing comics I can show my friend who I want to get into the 40k universe?
Hudson James
>I-If I pretend he's joking maybe I won't have to deal with what he's saying! Typical Tau player, sneaks in extra rules then plays dumb when caught.
Jack Rogers
Yet.
Ian Bennett
>not using Excel and its based AutoSum function
Blake Watson
Deff Skwadron
Dylan Scott
Missing two HQ's are a Big Mek in Mega Armour with Grot Oiler (Understrength, only Grot Oiler) and a Big Mek on Bike with Grot Oiler (Understrength, only Grot Oiler) because rules abuse is fun.
Josiah Bailey
>tournament lists must be written and submitted on official Citadel Paper to ensure a consistent quality
John White
Storm Bolters are 2 points. All Sister Superiors can now take both a combi-weqpon and a power weapon at the same time. Plus two obvious typo corrections that might be called buffs (Ret leadership and the Twin MM's special rules).