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By the emperor what a terrible fucking OP image

First for P2W

How do you mean?

I don't, I just wanted to post that gif.

Though some say FW, but they're dumb.

Some people are salty about Forgeworld or really expensive flyer based armies.

>forge world is pay to win
Git gud.

Don't mind me. Just doing a thing with the number my post ends on. Wanna pick a Traitor Legion.

1- Black Legion
2- Word Bearers
3- Dark Angels
4- Iron Warriors
5- Thousand Sons
6- World Eaters
7- Death Guard
8- Emperor's Children
9- Alpha Legion
0- Night Lords

So, decided to go with the Power Sword/Carbine load out for my Sicarians, as a way to help deal with MEQs, something I noticed Admech lacks a little in.

Also, what do you think are some good allies to add into a Ad Mech army? I think the prime Contendors are Culexus Assassins and Melta Stormtroopers, but I want to go outside the box. Any ideas?

Dark Angels.
They are traitor and gay.

Tourneyfags have always turned this game into P2W, they are the ones buying 5 riptides and scatbikes or whatever the flavor of the month army is.

In casual pick up games 40k is fine, you can pick whatever models you want and you can get a good game with them.

Bumpin

Why are Astra Milicuck and marinelets so assblasted by T'au superiority ?

Isn't that a bit redundant from GW? We already have Emperor's Children.

WE COME FOR YOU, user

STAND IN MIDNIGHT CLAD

Murders in dialup noises.

I read that as stand in midnight chad.

Night Lords Primaris when?

Hey guys. Just finished Pandorax. Great listen.
It was cool to see the Catachans kicking ass.

Its a shame about what happened to that cool guy though.

Anyways here's a link to my cureent collection of audio books. So far its just Pandorax and the Carrion throne but any other books I get linked downloads to will be added.
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If anyone else can drop a link to audio book mp3s ill add them to the list. Bonus points if its the primarch collection!

(I'm just going to call audio dramas audio books to keep it simple)

Ally 3 dreads lead by bjorn

>999
Alpharius is that you

Unless the codex nerfs Guard significantly and buffs other armies, they are shit stompers this edition. I've rolled through all my Tau friends to the point where they don't want to play me anymore.

>using the corporate approved trademarked names

Why are T'aueebs so assblasted they project it into everyone else?

Ave Dominus Nox!

I miss when taufags where crying about the riptide nerf.

Sorry, but this thread is for non-hereteks only.

Just finished DOW 3. Have to say It's an achievement to make war boring.

Well lads, it's my birthday tomorrow and I'm starting an AdMech army. Ryza colour scheme. Is Ryza a good one to go with?

Be afraid.

> Most playtested edition ever edition

Blood Angels Company Veterans with 2 Combi Bolters
> RapidFire4
> Fly, Jump Pack Assault
> 23pts/ea
Seems like one of the best units in the game. Accounting for Battleshock, each model will kill ~3 bases of Razorwings per turn.
Minimum squad size of 2 models makes them super-easy to slot in anywhere.

3 gun Manticore Battery, Gunnery Sergeant Harker and a Searchlight Saber
> 12D6 shots
> S9/AP-3/DD6
> Somewhere around 64 wounds to vehicles within 300"
> 430pts

Whats wrong with DoW3?

>marinelets
>trademarked

>Taufags unsuccessfully trying to sell riptides on ebay

>All buying commanders and a shoton of drones

>Tau codex finally comes out

>Commanders nerfed, drone spam nerfed

>New wave of ebay listings

What's right with it is a better question and faster to answer.

I don't think EC existed at the time of the DA creation based on bad gay jokes and references.

>Spawn are better in close combat than Possessed

All of the Forgeworld tags are meaningless at this point, aside from Mars, as Cawl has a buff that specifically targets units from the Mars subfaction.

However, Ryza is cool. Be sure to bring Plasma on all available units though, to be as fluffy as possible.

Go on...

Predict the codexes #5-10

5. Tau
6. Eldar
7. Necron
8. Tyranids
9. Orks
10. Deldar

This is good, I'll be able to increase my collection and enjoy the tears of waacfags.
Y'vahra is better anti vehicle anyways

Are Possessed still garbage this edition? Fuck's sake GW...

How are you getting two storm bolters?

Eldar
Imperial Guard
Orks
Tyrandis
Necrons
Thousand Sons

>pandorax

good book, but it some cases catachans were true mary sues.

I'm pretty sure there's this moment where 2 catachans ambush 2 plague marines 1vs1 and kill them with their knives. bah

I dunno, looks pretty good?

Otherwise its a straight up inferior game to DoW1 and 2

Personally I'm eyeballing a converted Guard flyer, since everyone runs Knights around here and I really want a different Lord of War. Mix it up, we go well with most things.

Guard players, is the Marauder Destroyer any good? Flying around a 460 point Hard To Hit plane and blasting 18 Heavy Weapons at whatever seems like a decent way to chew on pretty much anything, and fits really well into my plans for a 3k Admech Brigade + LoW Flyer. How would you go about converting a flying Admech gunboat like that?

No difference in rules, but Ryza orange looks cool and you can add some Ork bits to the bases, which is always fun. Make sure you have some Plasma Vanguard for fluff purposes.

Pretty much, sadly.

Not the unworkable trash they were before, just mediocre and overshadowed for their role.

Want fast units to tie up the enemy while being annoying and cheap? Spawn.
Want hard-hitting infantry that can shred heavy or light infantry? Berzerkers.
Want an elite unit geared to kill specific things? Chosen or Terminators.

#5 - thousand sons
#6 - space wolves
#7 - iron warriors
#8 - dark angels
#9 - alpha legion
#10 - blood ravens

By the power of wishful thinking

I like it. Was planning to convert a Stormraven to it. AdMech could have something like that. Harvest your Auto cannons from your walker things, for example.

Supreme Command Detachment was a mistake.

> Bolt Pistol and Chainsword
Replace Bolt Pistol with Chainsword.
Replace both Chainswords with Combi-Weapons.

You can't replace twice.

You replace THE chainsword, not A chainsword.

> Not thinking that Magnus and 5 Daemon Princes Warptiming into Turn 1 melee isn't the best thing ever.

I'm waiting for the Farsight detachment that's just 8 hqs.

So I should be expecting a Thousand Sons codex right?

They are fuckin' dumb. At least for Tau, most of the FW index for them is legit shit you wouldn't field unless you really loved the model or had a specific theme.

Most of the stock-codex variants are mediocre, overcosted. R'myr is nothing special, r'alai is a "character killer" that can't target characters, the Tigershark literally can never fire it's main gun due to a missing rule and the rest lean towards "meh, why even bother?".

And there's the remora, which lost its markerlight, some firepower, it's stealth and survivability, became weaker than a fucking crisis suit AND costs 1 more point than before for this privilege.

Well I mean Catachan fangs are pretty much the sharpest most beeflord knives humans wield. Plus the plague marine armor was decayed and not as tough as normal marine armor.

Maybe? Not sure they've got enough to justify it.

Just play HH.

Whats the matter user, dont you like seeing 10 commanders on the battlefield?

Hah. No.

>playing it to begin with when it was an obvious shit fest and looked nothing like 40k

I do. Its an easy win.

Maybe there's just so little tactical depth to a lot of 40k, that having statistical superiority is the only thing that matters, and tournament players will just shuffle around their builds accordingly?

Or maybe GW is bad at creating a system that promotes mixed armies instead of spam, and 8th's pseudo-Unbound makes it even easier to spam?

>beeflord

And death guard do?

No.

BEEFlord.

Seriously though. You got a link for any other audio books? Ive become addicted

Yup.
>No time for the NPC's we got a Narrative to keep up and all these new Spesss Mereens to sell

No shit, most of the relatively broken shit is in the core codices already.

It's just that some people are going to get upset about stupid shit instead of learning their armies better.

>IG 8th Codex will bring back regimental doctrines.

Death Guard are getting a bunch of new stuff, and already have some. New terminators, new infantry, blight drones, and likely more.

The only TSon unique stuff is Scarab Occult and Tzaangors. They'd have to add yet more stuff to justify it. Which I wish they would, don't get me wrong, I just don't see it happening.

Can I take a second to call out the fact that literally all factions are cool as fuck in 40k?

Space Marines are badass super soldiers.
Chaos Gods and followers wrecking shit left and right.
Imperial Guard the underdogs with their massive warmachine and unending bodies to throw at the enemy.
All the speacialised branches of the Imperium from Grey Knights to Sororitas just purging and praying their way through war.
Admech bringing the full technological force of man down upon their foes.
Tyranids eating everything in their path and they haven't even fully walked through our galaxy's door.
Necron armies not even stopped by death sweeping across worlds.
Orkz fighting for the fights sake.
Eldar bringing the most skilled warriors to the battle anyone has ever seen.
Deldar being the most sadistic space slavers to ever be.
Tau rocking the mecha gundam style.

How can you not think any of these are awesome?

My tallarn will ride again!

Possessed are Chosen with poweraxes, 1" more movement and a 5+ Invul, not bad by any means just underwhelming

Space marines get less cool the 200th time around.

...

I love Mordians but god damn I wish the shoulder tassels were reserved for officers only, it makes them all look like they are commanding officers and it's retarded as fuck

Quick question-
I'm planning to run a list that's heavy on Scouts/ (Stern/Van)Guard, with the odd Devastator squad/ Contemptor Dread in. Planning to include a shooty Captain/ JP Librarian as HQs. Yea/nay?

finaly someone who understands it, all the factions are cool, we just argue which one is cooler

It would be nice but I don't know what they would do for pic related.

>believing Guard will get a book ever

yeah I agree with you. I just hate the whole "waah waah FW is OP" shit when it's clearly debunked if you even LOOK AT THE FUCKING RULES.

My nigga, who needs tanks when you have /H O R S E S/

>marines
>cool
Maybe if you are 12

> I just hate the whole "waah waah FW is OP" shit when it's clearly debunked if you even LOOK AT THE FUCKING RULES.

seems like you didnt look at the FW rules at all

Codex tau when

Want

Any places to get plasma bitz from?

Depends on if you played it or not. It's easy to shit all over something but in the most general way to describe it. DOW 3 is shallow in almost every respect. No Character at all. Sometimes they get Gorgutz right but his redesign made him look less intimidating. Graphics are ok, very much like Diablo 3 which is a 7 year old game now.

My opinion, give it a miss. It's not awful but it's about average.

>"finally someone who gets subjective opinions are subjective"
>"maybe if you're 12"
Sorry who's twelve again ?

still, I wouldn't expect plague marines of all to go down like that. I might understand getting ambushed, considering that probably the only thing they smell is their own decay and hear only the flies buzzing around them

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>xv9s have nicer toys than burst cannons

It would be glorious if this were true, but non-burst cannon Hazard suits are garbage.

Not even inefficient, I mean flat out total never take it if you have an ounce of brains garbage.

could you please explain your statement ?

Yeah, that was the plan. Need another Dragoon anyway, so if I buy one off teh interwebs that's all the autocannon I need.

I'm just trying to work out what I want it to be in terms of archetype. Possibly some kind of floating gunboat with curved overlapping armour and such? Like a giant Bioshock variant of the Vulturax. Model is kinda fuckheug, also £205 is a tad much, so this is certainly a Convert Your Own situation.
What would an Admech flyer look like?

Camels are objectively superior.

90% of FW stuff was reasonable or even behind the curve. It's that other 10% that gives FW a bad name.

As an example, pretty much every Eldar tournament army of note either used a Skatach Wraithknight w/ Deathshrouds, or a Warp Hunter or Lynx, and Pulse Hornets were not uncommon.

Then there was the Ordnance Tyrant list, which broke one basic 40k rule: Yes they could fire into close combat.

I mostly agree, besides marines. GW has somehow found a way to make power armored super soldiers boring.

Things will get loud now!

Meme.
But usually very few people that started playing decades ago with marines keeps playing with marines.
That is why marines get told they are the army for 12 year old.

I mean my friends asked if I wanted to play and before I had even decided if it was for me they dropped 400 dollars on figures and paint. Now they expect to play me this weekend and I'm thinking I'll just get Total War Warhammer instead.