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Is it a good idea to have 801 points of Dreadnoughts in a 2000 point army? My friend says that you really need a high model count to be competitive, and that's spending 40% of my points on four models (Venerable Chaplain Dreadnought, two Ironclads and a Venerable with twin lascannon and twin assault cannon)
I was thinking of running a second Vanguard detachment with my TH/SS assault terminators, a Librarian terminator, Legion of the Damned unit and Imperial Space Marine, but that would leave me with only 550-ish points left to make my main Battalion detachment, which probably isn't near enough to make a good army.
Would it be worth it to include a Techmarine with my army if I'm running that many Dreadnoughts? Should I pay for getting him a bike and/or servitors or is just an on foot Tech-priest walking around with the Dreadnought cavalcade good enough?
Chase Williams
What's your power level Veeky Forums?
My main army appears to be just over 300
Sebastian Taylor
I fucking love Dark Angels but damn did I laugh at this.
Ayden Torres
IT'S OVER NINE
Dominic Brooks
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
Liam Foster
your buddy is just being a waac faggot, go hard and do all dreads with two tech priests
Jaxon Foster
Is this a song or...?
Charles Evans
I wonder how good that 2E scheme would look on Guilliman if it were actually painted properly. You can tell the painter isn't incompetent but purposely painted it to a lower level.
I need a Warpsmith but don't want to use finecast, what do?
Will this guy work?
Henry James
Are traitor legions fun?
Landon Fisher
Why are there so many purity seals on Space Marines? Coming from Imperial Guard, it seems excessive.
Are they trying to protect their virginity?
Wyatt Thompson
All Dreadnought armies are like all Knight armies. They are weak to lucky hits from melta and other D6 weapons, and they have some disadvantages because they have so few models, but they are still viable.
Also if you play the way the rulebook says to play, they have a very big advantage in that they always go first due to having less models and this means you will almost always get the alpha strike and first blood unless you get seized.
There aren't any real disadvantages to having less models unless your opponent is playing a non-existent meme army like 200+ conscripts. You will be outnumbered which can be unfavorable, but it's not a huge handicap.
Levi Gonzalez
CSM are fun, we don't have traitor legion rules yet.
Grayson Harris
I think they get seals like a guardsman gets medals.
Christopher Gutierrez
are shooty terminators good? Ive got both flavors havent tested either of them out
Brandon Long
It's low.
Hudson Ward
...
Tyler Young
Why does this thread go full shit when americans and australians can post ?
Eli Russell
Is there a reason Grey knight terminators don't get access to storm shields?
Colton Nguyen
Now if only I had 6 commanders.
Logan Stewart
they're not coward
Kayden Moore
This:
European day time: >Discusion of lore >Discusion of points costs >people helping newbies build their armies or guide their collections >tips for painting
American day time: >LE DARK ANGELS ARE GAY XD >shit slinging >Telling newbies to fuck off and "lrn2play" >shitposting >/pol leaking
fucking Americans.
Carson James
Don't know if this is bait or if you foreigners are really this stupid.
>America >Australia >completely different fucking time zones
>implying right now is even American prime time, everyone is still at work/commuting/dinner >implying I haven't stayed up in the middle of the night American time and seen the pol shitfest that is EU shitposting, randomly making jabs at various obscure countries that nobody even cares about outside of the EU
William Sanchez
You forgot that during European hours, the Shitsters of Basshole autist and the Slaanesh/Cheetah autist come out to play.
Your third world continent has its own demons, no need to focus on ours.
Bentley Myers
How's the muslim cock mate?
Liam Phillips
I took the axe chosen from dark vengeance and glued laser tendrils from the helbrute kit coming out of his back for mine
Aaron Gutierrez
Nice samefag
Kayden Barnes
I know this paint job is deliberate and it's retro but it still pisses me off.
Asher Nguyen
>think america is 1 timezone
well at least we know you're a burger
Carter Wright
Thats because not even half the burges actually go to college
Chase Jenkins
It fits the new bright setting.
Hunter Rivera
>zones >s >plural >implying that sentence doesn't cover all 3 American time zones >implying every single American time zone isn't completely off from AU's anyway
Didn't teach you dipshits to hit shift or period in school? Damn, just look at all these Europeans shitting up this thread.
Jaxson Flores
Wow, its hideous.
Ryan Campbell
They taught me to laugh as the spics cuck you and destroy your race and country. Not so funny now is it?
Aaron Jenkins
Don't blame the european education system on its citizens friend. Blame their governments. Despite having Americans subsidize all aspects of their society by taking over military protection duties for their poor uncultured nations, they have been unable to properly utilize any of their borrowed wealth due to severe governmental incompetence and moral cowardice.
Joseph Roberts
And the autist returns to post out of context Tau pics.
Xavier Hill
>Assblasted after the word "College"
well, how surprising
Michael Reyes
>Gue'la think he can fight us
Jaxson Reyes
Are you sure that's the right discord server?
Dylan Clark
And I mean, each Ironclad has two heavy flamers, and four attacks in melee at WS 3+, rerolling ones, the Chaplain has two storm bolters (so 4 attacks at 24" and 8 attacks at 12" or closer) at BS 2+ and 4 melee attacks at WS 2+, and he too gets to reroll ones. And my Venerable Dread has two lascannon shots and four autocannon shots at BS 2+, both with a range of 48"
So I feel like those four wouldn't have too hard of a time chewing through hordes, especially with the Ironclads being Toughness 8 and the Chaplain being a character that's protected by those Ironclads in front of him.
Should I have techmarines on foot or techmarines on bikes? Servo-harness or conversion beamer?
Brandon Flores
>Something something Greater Good something something Apostraphe something something dying
Oliver Howard
>Threadly reminder that random Kor'Vre reverse engineered the primarisation of human and tried it successfully on some Gue'la for fun.
Ryan Gutierrez
>literally just one image of Farsight >out of context Don't you have an Eldar to impregnate gue'la?
Dominic Cruz
when do you think we will be seeing Primaris Grey Knights? I love the Grey Knights Aesthetic and the primaris designs as well and would love to blend them
Jonathan Lopez
What? No! What?
Kevin Cox
Eldar waifus are for guilliman only, he doesnt share
Jacob Brown
>Using a Titanic machine to defeat a dread sized suit >Actually being proud of this
no wonder you struggle so much conquering T'au worlds.
Andrew Cook
Meme
Jack Flores
Now that the meta has changed and army playerbases are settling in, how would you describe the general feeling you get from players of each army?
Ian Nguyen
My dick would be SO HARD if I could run SS/ Force Swords on my GK Terms. I'd LOVE to paint those mother fuckers.
Cameron Russell
What.
He only has one waifu for laifu. The rest are available.
Juan Walker
Did Cawl blew up Cadia too?
Levi Mitchell
Alright people
>As well as classic and well-known armies, you can expect to see factions that have never had their own codex before – starting with the Death Guard, available later in the year.
What are the new codexeses going to be? They said the rollout will take a year or so, so maybe they're rolling out 20-25 books. Somethings like SoBs are rolled in with others
Lincoln Davis
Gue'la wont change.
Nanika o gisei ni suru koto ga dekinai hito wa nani mo kaeru koto wa dekimasen
Elijah Martin
Emperor's Children and World Eaters, are a couple.
Josiah Mitchell
Kroot Mercenaries or Enslaver They did had rules back in the good old days.
Austin Rodriguez
How are those double assault cannon dreads working out for you?
Alexander Carter
Black Templars hopefully get their Codex back.
Xavier Rogers
What's stopping you? Out of town ATM, but I converted a paladin with the deathwatch shields and it looks fly as fuck.
Just stick purity seals on anything DW-y and use the usual red/white and it's a sick model that makes a good draigo stand-in
Jackson Edwards
Promethium can't melt necrodermis beams
Leo Parker
Do people just not know the fluff?
Jacob Howard
Low down on the priority list considering GKs got marinelet resculpts not that long ago.
Then maybe after that GKs and maybe Deathwatch after that.
I actually figure we'll get rescaled Eldar before we get Chad Grey Knights.
Angel Barnes
Anyone got the epub of pic related?
Brayden Gutierrez
Be a straight baller and use librarian dreadnoughts and/or bjorn as HQs and field nothing but vanguard and spearhead detachments with literally only dreadnoughts.
Jeremiah Adams
Most of them will be marine crap. Gay Nights Nigger Templars Ultracucks Blood Pedos Gay Angels Furries Gay Watch
Now we add Black Cucks Alpha Cucks Sonic Cucks Death Cucks Word Cucks Iron Cucks Night Cucks
Might as well play 30k, at least there non marines army get something from time to time.
Cameron Sullivan
Cawl created the Tau.
Aaron Wood
No clue. They should allow it unless they bring back sanctuary or something...which will probably happen with their codex.
Gavin Anderson
It would remind me how un-loved we are by GW every time I play them. Not to mention I usually lose anyway because I'm a garbage tactician and roller. At least my models look good while getting blown off the table.
Christian Johnson
>Tau >For hipsters Funny to look at things now
Enclaves much more likelier to get a dex on the tau side instead
>that have never had their own codex >BTs
Sorry, but I think you might still be out of luck
Andrew Torres
>Translation: I'm autistic and I like Tau
Jose Wood
>Alpha Cuck That's quite the oxymoron.
Jace Garcia
I think I'm missing a reference, but now I want to know if any dread actually can take double ass-cans?
Deathwatch is the only flavor of power armor even remotely interesting imo, literally the only ones beside TS (or Primaris, but fuck that noise) that feel like an angel of death with enhanced weapons and gear.
I know a lot of people shit on Marines, and I love the lore personally, but am I the only one that despises how 'weak' (if you get my meaning) they are on the tabletop?
Cooper Smith
>implying Alpha legion and Ultramarines aren't the same faction
Gabriel Rogers
That's an actual cuckhold fetish term.
Luke Jackson
I want the primaris Librarian and a squad of hell blasters. How can I make them fit into my White Scars army? The snapfit models look like a pain to customise.
Joshua Gonzalez
>implying there is any difference between the pride parade marine armies.
Jeremiah Perry
>Posting literral mongoloïd to prove a point
When will they learn
Justin Garcia
Tabletop marines and Fluff Marines have always been different species.
At least loyalist marines get wanked by the authors most of the time. CSMs tend to die in droves in non-CSM fiction.
Sebastian Martin
What? Which one is the alpha cuck?
Kayden Moore
when the game is geared towards marines and killing marines then it's not surprising you get that feeling
Ethan Torres
use fw white scar 30k heads
Brody Lee
Dat Technicolor
Luis Miller
Look on the bright side, we'll get something soon. Considering GK are the one group that even remotely notice or care about Mortarion, they'll pop in once he shows up.
I doubt we'll get models, and it'll probably be another "and then Lurd kaldor draigo one-spotted teh rimarch becaus he is da bestest Maureen evahr", but it's nice to get mentioned.
Plus explicit mention as one of the first codexes really makes me think GK will be playing a larger role (again, that's just saying mentioned offhandedly more than once) in upcoming events.
Jackson Phillips
I'd wait to see if Primaris get bikes in 8e or if they get something wacky like landspeeder jetbikes just like Primaris tanks are gravtanks.
Jason Moore
>Chaos Undivided >Getting new models Sorry user, GW has some Enraged Skullchoppers and Bloodsworn Blood Warriors to sculpt
Charles Ross
>plays 40k >calls other autistic
Back in the day (5th edition I think) I liked to watch battle reports because it was the only way I wasn't going to see smurfs or blood angels. In one of said videos one guy had grey knights and made the comment that you need a shooty dread with what I'm remembering better now to be two autocannons. Because you just didn't have any guys and were hemorrhaging in fire power.
Caleb Brown
>Feeling threatened, the Ass'burg Sept calls for reinforcements from TsundereSight. Only it comes too late. Asses have been blasted, jimmies rustled, and triggers triggered
Landon Young
Fair enough. I do feel bad for CSM, shit on in lore constantly and the only way to play anything close to movie Marines requires being Thousand Sons.
At least loyals get Vanguard/Sternguard and Deathwatch
Landon Roberts
Don't know if the guy from the last thread is still around.
I can stretch my budget and buy three Leviathan siege dreads for my Black Templars. How would you arm them?
Benjamin Bennett
Lib dreads suck. Muh smite
Caleb Cook
I spam two leviathans and 2 contemptors in my chaos list, its been really sucessful so far.
David Cruz
What worries me about being one of the first codexes is that the same thing will happen as it did in 7e. Codex drops, it's super bland and super weak, gets no support except for at the end of the edition with a unimpressive character(Voldus, who is now pretty awesome by GK standards), and an crappy formation all while serving as the guinea pig for future non-vanilla marine codexes to be based on and tweaked. Not to mention the balance disparity between the 2014 7e Codexes and the 2015 ones.
Ayden Cruz
It really goes to show you just can't trust an elf.
Jackson Cook
The one who fucks the non-alpha cuck's bitch.
Dylan Lewis
Honestly other than the Horde factions who die easily no matter what and the anonymous factions like Necron warriors most of the factions tend to die in surprisingly large numbers when it's not their faction in the fiction.
Eldar tend to die in ridiculous number whether they are Guardians or Aspect Warriors. Pretty much just Farseers get plot immunity
Parker Phillips
Custodes are much closer to fluff marines than marines are.
Hudson Campbell
I'm guessing you weren't in last thread. There was a Taufag that even autist would think was autistic, butting into conversations and spouting about Greater Good, gue'la, amd Farsight no matter how unrelated it was to the topic and then go back to lurking until it found a new argument to sperg his blueberry juice all over. At least the SOS players had the decency of staying on topic.