Gotta have hard light holograms. Oh, and I want it to have a nice swimming pool!
Daniel Gonzalez
When are we splitting back up into /pfg/ and /sfg/?
Thomas Robinson
Leave piggy piggy
Blake Williams
Should a group of goblins be wary of bigger goblinoids? On one hand they are also green, on the other I think encounters usually end with one side being slaves.
Leo Hall
A red-headed, curvy fembot who is there to ensure the ship runs smoothly
Leo Jenkins
A cloaking device, spinal laser cannons and a pleasant AI to keep everything running shipshape.
Brayden Roberts
Does she have an adorable Scottish accent?
Nolan Hughes
Why would they not be wary of bigger goblinoids? Goblinoids are utter bastards when they're small, making them bigger just makes things worse.
Christopher Gonzalez
>A design system that actually works >Stats that actually allow use at mid-high levels rather than being completely upended by "lol high level spells". >The ability for it to be an actual character
And obviously it's not even sci-fi if you can't fire beams significantly larger than your own ship. That's just obvious.
Dominic Campbell
So Iron Gods has over a dozen apps now, is that enough to start speculating at party compositions? Or shipping??
Not soon enough. I guess it's not that bad, though. I'm just grumpy about it because I'm not keeping up with Starfinder, probably.
Yes, absolutely yes. Slaves is one possibility, food is another. There is no honor among thieves and even less among goblinoids.
Also... Am I the only one that things of goblins as coming in several colors, kind of like kobolds? Red, green, yellow, even the occasional cyan... Maybe it's because I use to read that crappy Goblins webcomic.
Don't do this "APPZ APPZ APPZ" thing man. Fuck off.
Carter Moore
No most aren't done and several are not even serious
Owen Hill
>So Iron Gods has over a dozen apps now, is that enough to start speculating at party compositions? Or shipping?? But hey, you're right, it's the starfinder talk that's ruining the thread. Fuck off.
Elijah Garcia
I'm talking about other things too, so what's it matter? Tell me about goblins and what color they should be.
Kayden James
Cargo space, possibly even enough for fighter craft. Maybe some false bulkheads, and a shitton of hidden compartments from which a crew member might retrieve a variety of holdout weapons.
Being ugly enough to deter thieves is a plus.
Elijah Butler
Please no
Adam Hughes
Dude, you straight up asked for shipping. How is that /not/ cancerous? It doesn't matter if you discuss other things, people won't continue your dual topics in all of their posts. So just fuck off with the "MUH APPZ" bullshit.
Grayson Miller
Alright, sure, but I STILL want to talk about goblins, damn it. Could different colors indicate adaptations to different environments, ala white "snow goblins" and green "forest goblins" and red "cave goblins"? Or do you think it'd be better if it represented some kind of hierarchy, like red goblins are stronger than white goblins are stronger than green goblins?
Brody Johnson
What, you don't like girls with high capacity fuel cells and extra thermal plating? C'mon, man, it's 2017
Robert Hill
>you're the village now >restrictive rules >'you're commoners guys haha i'm original'
Kayden Hernandez
>Play as a village >You lose when the village is gone does this mean you respawn with your own NPCs?
Camden Nelson
Impractical massive butterfly wings that are actually used for ramming people.
Justin Gutierrez
>restrictive rules I mean, the point buy is on the low end and it's a low level start, but I don't see how that's supposed to be "restrictive rules" unless you're so completely addicted to PoW that you can't consider playing without it. The only restriction is basically "you can't start as a lv3 wizard", if I read it correctly.
Michael Ward
I thought it was "you can't play as a level 3 wizard period." You can only take two levels of Wiz.
Juan Phillips
With so many options in Pathfinder released today do you guys think we are burdened by choice? Or do you guys think that because people mostly want to be optimized, we are just provided "false" choices?
Samuel Perez
The latter. Once you know how to navigate the minefield that is pathfinder, you realize that there's not too many actual options. Most options just add a different flavor to the same die rolls.
Henry Bennett
I'm honestly surprise at how many options from the early books are so insanely strong. I find my characters just never have room for weird stuff.
Carter Sullivan
Going through the app rules, I realize this was worded confusingly. I've changed it to "cannot START at a level..." etc.
Adrian Fisher
Inflation is a thing and most of the feats are too situational or there just for flavor so you never see them in action. Consider the Swordlord for one: If there's ever anything to do with Brevoy at high level there will be swordlords all over the place, but you will never see it outside of that except for a very VERY specific build or with a player who takes fluff always over mechanical superiority. You know, nobody who frequents /pfg/.
Jeremiah Miller
Is Linnorm game even still a possibility now? Was he just playing with our hearts?
Nolan Flores
>Consider the Swordlord for one >a very VERY specific build or with a player who takes fluff always over mechanical superiority
A smart player plays literally anything else besides the "official" sword lord class stuff, because he knows that stuff sucks hot shit. He just hands whatever he's actually playing a dueling sword/longsword and says "yo guys I'm playing a character who is/wants to be a sword lord in the setting"
Gavin Johnson
I wish Paizo would just release a V2 of Pathfinder and fix all the garbage. Just swallow their pride and say "Listen we know we were being ridiculous with our garbage errata."
Josiah Richardson
Is there a Charisma based witch?
Jace Rogers
Pretty sure that's literally what they're trying to do with Starfinder, bro.
Jayden Jackson
Seducer Witch, and it's pretty good. and lewd
Gavin Ramirez
My point proven. Not that I am claiming stormwind fallacy, but there are people who take roleplaying over mechanical superiority and can't say that they are a swordlord without the PRC no matter how bad it is.
Levi Reed
But I don't want to be lewd, one of the players is 13
Gotta admit, I really like Ibra. Hope they do more with it.
Brody Martin
I feel this burden also. There are sone interesting feats or chain feats like magical tails or the possesed hand chain. Super interesting options but out weighed by more optimal choices.
This is why I love the optional background skills rules. It enables you to put points in fluff things like proffession, perform, or craft. Most of the time people put points into skills that they need to survive the adventuring day.
It almost makes me think that they need to do something similar with feats. Enable you to have slots for "background" or fluff feats.
Tyler Watson
I love that the pirate deity literally stole her current influence.
Josiah Russell
>still no papa asmo
Kayden Nelson
Refluff the sex parts with "a friendly cuddle or hug or deep conversation" or some bullshit. I mean, abilities that interact with people you last slept with in the last 24 hours? To lewd for me.
Thomas Roberts
Give 13 year olds some credit They know what sex is.
Christian Thompson
I agree background skills are great. It's bizarre the Iron Gods game isn't using them. Just move knowledge engineering out of background skills.
Jaxon Gonzalez
Is it possible to jump/dash/move forward, do a couple of melee attacks, and then jump/dash/move backwards in a single round of combat?
Dylan Taylor
>summoner tries to save our monk from the area of a spell's ongoing effect by rushing in, grabbing him and casting dimension door out >the target square was occupied by an invisible enemy >they have to get teleported to a random place somewhere in the 3D space in a 20ft radius >gm rolls for where to put them >they end up back in the spell's area
Gabriel Cook
An LE god that is not a cartoonish narcissist or giggling maniac who gathers a following just having a single meme picture? Has Paizo dropped the ball and, you know, actually put some thought into writing their stuff?
Isaiah Gutierrez
Dealing with others wanting to steal it sounds like it would make a good ADventure Path, or at least a gag that gets mentioned in all the other ones.
All the previous deities, except for a few who were explicitly killed, are still around. It could be that Asmo downsized his operation to make it more lean and fit before staging a takeover.
Brandon Gutierrez
How do you argue against someone's completely autistic hate of 'intrigue'?
Michael Murphy
Who's stoaked about the Mechanic? I look forward to seeing if there are archetypes that allow you to do stuff like making the mechanics drone a backpack to do pic related or more.
Nolan Rodriguez
>AbadarCorp Hooray, more flanderization of a previously cool god
Ibra is really cool though. I could see some good character concepts coming from its ideology
Benjamin Torres
Use companion to the lonely rules and say that the lewd stuff is just handholding or cuddling
Hudson Brown
By blocking a certain space frog's posts on a certain internet chat client.
Benjamin Garcia
They just copied a meme picture.
In the Soldier Iconic's backstory, I did like that they basically left the pacifists alone. Yeah, they "conquered" the world, but now they have to run it and basically leave them be.
Didn't you read the Mechanic post? They literally call that out as something you WILL do. You can go Iron Man with your drone at higher levels.
What did you like about that deity before?
Robert Sanders
Choosing between that and the Exocortex is going to be difficult I feel but I suppose when in doubt always go Iron Man.
Logan Jackson
Abadar is awesome in pf. His church actually provides a really necessary service to the community in banking, but if his followers have formed a corporation to worship him in Starfinder, then I have absolutely no doubt that Paizo will play them off as greedy bastards who only care about coin.
Jaxson Turner
How do fractional saves work with say 3 levels of a slow fort save and 7 levels of a fast fort save?
Camden King
Have hope, user. Hope like Abadar's money-grubbing faithful have. You know though, if Abadar's First Vault contains a perfect copy of everything that can be owned, with the advent of Starfinder do you think his vault contains asteroids now? Planets? Stars, even?
Luis Gutierrez
>who gathers a following just having a single meme picture
Which meme picture is this?
Andrew Nguyen
Which one do you think?
Carter Sanders
Ibra looks cool. But I'm only really interested in seeing Erastil or Kurgess, and something tells me they're not going to make the next cut either.
Nathan Johnson
He probably means Kurgess and the picture of his pants with a bulge.
Ian Scott
...
Benjamin Long
Can I ask about 3.5e here?
Nathan Diaz
...
Jayden Hughes
What do you need?
Michael Phillips
FUCK ERASTIL AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE.
Leo Robinson
>Erastil fags are also /pol/faggots Keeps confirming what I already knew.
Andrew Martinez
Lamastsu wasn't on the list. I would include her anyways because how else am I going to Resident Evil in Starfinder?
Nolan Moore
People could just be interested in unethical genetic experimentation. The gods don't need to be behind every single fucking aspect of the setting.
Samuel Kelly
Hermea?
>unethical
Well, Hermea gone wrong, anyway. Cheliax invades or something.
Brody Perez
I know, which would make for interesting conflicts between cults and non cults who do this sort of stuff that and I wouldn't make them prolific either like the a few members of the board of some pharmaceutical company are nasty fucks who are into fucking monsters and fell into the cult of lamastu but are ordered to try and use their power and influence to either bring into the fold or crush the opposition who are doing similar stuff
Nolan Murphy
Just a reminder that Shelyn approves of pedophiles, necrophiles and beastiality. Shelyn is Neutral Evil just like her brother!
Benjamin Davis
>All this hate on Shelyn and Erastil These people need to hug their family.
Brandon Morgan
Does your character wear a hat? Does he/she uses a helmet?
Ryder Wood
Duh, retard
Wyatt Diaz
Why would you not use a helmet?
Evan Thompson
It's part of being an inquisitor to wear a giant hat, no?
Dylan Lee
>50PB Retard confirmed.
Alexander Barnes
It's 7*0.5 + 3*1/3 + 2(base)= 6.5 rounded down to 6.
Lucas Jackson
Hat of Greater Disguise made to look like hair ribbons
Jeremiah Richardson
It's Kawase, we already knew this. This has more stupid houserule shit to put StarToad to shame.
Jose Smith
Why are you guys so triggered by Starfinder content? It's new and shiny and doesn't warrant it's own general to clog up space on the board. Besides, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from discussing PF and ignoring SF content.
Benjamin Sanders
I didn't understand half the modifications, and I couldn't even find what classes and materials are allowed.
John Roberts
I'm glad Urgathoa is still a major deity but I'm personally more intrigued by the black hole god from the first part, it sounds like they fit my aesthetic for villains quite nicely.
Brayden Gray
The worst part is people are going to unironically apply to this just like people unironically apply to Startoad games because they're so thirsty to actually get into a game.
John Martinez
When can I have my high-level Dahak campaign?
Kevin Butler
It's just one or two people.
Most of this thread has been good because we are discussing SF and PF stuff. I only worry when people start discussing E-Celebs.
NOW, tell me what you are most looking forward to in Starfinder
Robert Richardson
I kind of want to see what they do with the Solarian.
Xavier Martin
I am most looking forward to it being released to /sfg/ can split off and we can go back to /pfg/.
Nolan Lewis
How would a pirate dress in the 15th to 16th centuries?
Brayden Sanchez
>Kawase game
Holy shit
Elijah Peterson
I want to see how they re-balance the age-old martial vs. caster dynamic since Fighter equivalents are going to be rocking fucking copyright-friendly lightsabers and rocket launchers. Also, ship-to-ship combat. It looks like it's going to focused on ships that are size-appropriate for four to six PCs to run, but I'm hoping for rules for Star Destroyer-tier vessels.
(You)
Camden Morgan
Nah, original Pathfinder just isn't 'good enough' for him.