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Worldly Tutor for Rec Sage at EoT after an Omen Machine came down.
Ryder Cox
sit down to play with dood. me: you competitive or casual dood: casual.
dood wips out azami mono counterspell deck. guys
game two?
I pull out my better deck and he taps out turn 3. me: Armageddon we both have some rocks so no biggie. dood proceeds to not draw lands for the next ten turns as I slow roll braking his lands as he plays them and destroying his rocks as they come in to play. he manages 3 lands and casts high tide, in response I destroy one of his islands. he mutters something a bout LD not letting him play spells. I point out his deck is basically counterspell.deck
he becomes a pile of salt.
Ryan Harris
>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused. >going to die on upkeep to a mogis trigger because im at literally 1 life >won every game that night at my lgs >mogis player is wide open >guy next to me swings at him with a 9/9 >tainted strike >mogis player = dead >dont die on upkeep >draw debt to the deathless >kill table ha
Jacob King
Thank you OP, this is the first not-shit OP in a looong time. You've earned the right to make new threads whenever you want, as long as you use this power responsibly.
>t. Ancient Legendary OP
Ryder Garcia
More like 'Discord shills BTFO" edition
Wyatt Bennett
Explain to a dude here, why do we hate the discord? Is it because it becomes a circlejerk and inherently is basically a namefag gathering place? Or is it just generally useless? Just curious on this one, after seeing both sides bitch each other out for like two weeks of threads now.
Benjamin Russell
Yes, people come here because they prefer anonymity. If they wanted names they could go to an actual forum.
Kevin Stewart
Fair. I can't really argue with that. Does anyone at least try to organize a few online games? Or is it just cancer?
Brayden Parker
>playing on Cockatrice >join game >hey user we're on discord, come join us and we'll start.
For fucks sake. I just want to play magic.
Andrew Parker
>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.
>playing Erebos, God of the Dead after he just came out >players read him since he just got printed >One dude won't stop talking shit >"So it's a bad Greed? Literally the worst god." >T1 Dark Ritual, Buried Alive fetching Reassembling Skeleton, Braids, It That Betrays >T2 Bring back Reassembling Skeleton >duderino laughs and points out that Bloodghast is so much better >T3 Victimize returning Braids and It That Betrays >dudebro sitting next to me untaps, I remind him to sac a land >reads Braids >sacs one of his two lands >I ask him to hand it to me >he asks me why >he reads It That Betrays >smuganimegirl.jpg
I fucking hated that guy. Haven't seen him around in a while, I hope he moved to Antarctica.
Blake Myers
There are a few games, but they're overwhelmed by the cancer. I'm just waiting for the drama.
Elijah Rivera
So he was right about Erebos.
Ethan Fisher
Fuck Azami.
Brandon Kelly
The "Your opponents can't gain life." clause shuts down a ton of shenanigans, you virtually never have to recast him short of something like All is Dust, and the draw ability is a really great mana sink.
I don't run him anymore, but he's pretty great in a board control strategy.
Anthony Carter
I've been gone for a while. What are the most relevant cards since Theros?
Charles Carter
>Running black Bradis
I hope your table was aware and agreeing to this
Bentley Fisher
It didn't used to be banned, kiddo.
Gabriel Carter
oh, a not shit EDH general. Thank you OP, please do that again.
just look at the last OP. Shit theme, shit topic. That's every time a discord fag gets to create OP, they can't resist the urge to type something stupid.
>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.
I am the saltiest one in my group and all my salt is due to politics. I'm probably the most competitive-minded player in my group and the others tend to group up to beat me after midgame. (We're playing precons mostly so it's not like my deck is cancer or anything). Does anyone else has this issue?
Jaxon Hill
Quite a lot actually.
Are you looking for something in particular?
Isaac Kelly
Question, Would a Mono-Green Stax work? If so, who would be the best commander for it?
i mean, smokestack + pick related + vomiting your lands sound cool
Jason Mitchell
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Gabriel Williams
green doesn't have the best staxing cards
white has lots
black has lots
green doesn't
however green can hate the fuck out of artifacts and enchantments, which kinda counts as stax i guess
Sebastian Young
I'm not 110% on my chronology, but I'm fairly certain Banned-As-Commander, where she was since time immemorial, was dead and its contents dumped on the vanilla ban list well before Theros
Aaron Hernandez
Interesting, conflicting salt piles.
Christopher Smith
Selvala to break parity with a ridiculous mana engine. Root Maze.
Jordan Morris
That locus of mana bro is great, lets you stack your mana and get big guys out fast
Gavin Ortiz
Titania possibly, or go for a non threatening commander. Hall of gemstone is a must include.
Aaron Campbell
>Does anyone else has this issue? Used to, simply because I was the only one who ever responded to anything, and my kitchen table playgroup were all timmies with horrible threat assessment.
But cockatrice doesn't enforce rules. It streamlines everything to communicate verbally rather than text.
Aaron Mitchell
>OP question Land+crypt into trinisphere three games in a row
Evan Miller
Can't wait for Shadows over Innistrad to leave Standard
Jace Morris
green can also support sac-happy stax by generating tokens and tax-happy stax with better-than-average ramp. It's probably the weakest stax color overall (though blue doesn't offer much directly either) but you can still pull off G/x Stax if you want.
Monogreen? It's interesting and doubtful, but I'd be more doubtful if I weren't kind of halfway there with my Freyalise Control build though. Most of the Stax package is artifacts and Freyalise shits out tokens that are also mana sources to stay ahead of the awfulness while potentially blowing shit up or drawing cards. In the end, I think you'd blur the line between true Stax and just hate cards.dec, but it could be fun.
Jose Garcia
yeah i think green is fine as a support color for stax but as a mono color it doesnt work imo
Samuel Williams
>Theros Release Date- September 27, 2013 >Commander Banlist Update (Erayo, Rofellos, Braids)- September 2014
Hudson Baker
Well, fuck me up. Well played.
Brody Gutierrez
a bad green in the command zone is worth two greeds in the bush
Isaiah Hughes
*greed fuck
Bentley Bailey
>indestructible greed that kills lifegain
Chase Peterson
erebos is indeed "worse" than greed in a vacuum. however, erebos has a few bonus things going for him that can tip the scales in its favor. he stops lifegain and is indestructible, both of which can be good stuff depending on your meta.
erebos can also be put in the command zone, thus allowing you to essentially guarantee that you'll have a place to dump your mana and draw cards, which means you don't have to worry about drawing too much mana/ramp or drawing too little draw/gas.
so all in all, erebos is good in the command zone but maybe not quite as good in the 99. i'd run greed over erebos in the 99.
Lucas Lee
>playing with group >random enters shop and buys some singles >sits near us and kind of surveys the game while sleeving cards >asks to play in next game >"sure" >plays r/w aurelia >turn 6 he brings avacyn back from yard >oh shit things are about to get spicy >next turn he drops Armageddon >our group kind of just look at each other >"MLD, really"? >yea lol do you all scoop? >"no" path his avacyn >he gets mad, starts bitching about how we are casuals >asks to play again >we to tell him no, we dont play with MLD >he tells the shop owner and leaves >we all laugh
MLD players are cancer.
Kevin Powell
Anyone know of some good sleeves and where I can get them? I've heard good things about the Ultra Pro Eclipse sleeves, but the red ones seem to be sold out and I can't find any of the others for MSRP.
Eli Perry
matte dragon shields
Owen Jones
Actually, you're the cancer in that situation. MLD is just another form of control and he actually had a plan for it unlike lolsorandumbfags who just blow up lands without a followup. If he hadn't played Avacyn he'd be a shitter. but instead it's just you guys being salty and refusing to let him play because you can't cope with his playstyle.
Brandon Ortiz
Matte Dragon Shields, though I haven't been able to find the Perfect Fits.
Isaac Sanchez
>spergs sperging at each other Another peaceful day at the game shop and the world keeps spinning.
Owen Morris
I ran quite a few decks, was just wondering how many universal staples had been introduced before I start delving through the past +1000 cards introduced.
Caleb Long
What about combo MLD?
Robert Smith
There are a few staples.
Do you have a ETB focused deck? pic related.
Do you have a storm/artifact/mana rock deck? Check out Paradox Engine.
Ethan White
Dragon Shields. Don't have to be Matte but the mattes are mercifully less slippery
Tyler Evans
I really don't care for the Dragon Shield Perfect Fits.
Gavin Green
nothing wrong with MLD just things wrong with nerds Nerds are cancer
Colton Cruz
DONT GET MATTE BLACK DRAGONSHIELDS THE NEW PRINTINGS ARE WORSE THAN ULTRA PRO QUALITY OTHER COLORS/COMBINATIONS ARE FINE YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
John King
MLD based Aurelia is probably the only decent deck in boros. He set up his win condition and used MLD for a huge benefit. You are the sperg in this situation excluding the path line.
>Exclusively use black matte dragon shield sleeves
pls be lyin
Sebastian Flores
im not im in the process of trying to get a refund
Leo Hill
I'm in the market or red and either green or blue a the moment, so I should be fine. I have plenty of black Hyper Matte KMCs from when they were good.
Michael Reed
No, thin skinned, "let me play my dragons" autists don't like MLD.
Benjamin Jackson
I'm building Derevi right now. I already have a pretty miserable deck to play against (Teysa Edicts), so I'm wondering about fun things I can do. Bird/Wizard Tribal and flicker value seems like the route, rather than the typical stax build. Any suggestions?
Asher Lewis
I'm a sucker for Innistrad lands
Jack Sanders
There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. It's no worse than counterspells or Stax. It's just another form of control via resource denial. It's pretty much the only way Boros can play control. If you know you're playing against MLD then pack answers against it. Any player worth their salt doesn't just crumple and die to it.
Jonathan Fisher
Theros reporting in with a beautiful sunset
Aaron Wilson
First EDH deck so yeah, I was expecting something like that The good thing is that all of us are new to the format so I can expect relatively low power
It's a good thing that our local Johnny doesn't like EDH and is still trying to make Tiny Leaders work in the store
Cameron Foster
>Playing my newly created Volrath deck >One of my opponents is using an infinite life/infinite token combo deck >I have Volrath out when his deck goes off >During my turn I make Volrath Unblock-able >Discard Draco >mfw his face.
Dominic Long
The rest of you just... can't see the forest for the trees.
Jaxon Martin
you're running a lot of mediocre cards that have direct upgrades
coffin queen magus of the bazaar satyr wayfinder doomed necromancer darksteel ingot dance of the dead abandon hope
plus a lot of other stuff that is just veering on the edge of mediocrity and decentness
heres my sultai reanimator list ive been working on tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sultai-bullshit-2/ how new are we talking? i got some black dragon sleeves at an european retailer about a month ago and they seem fine
Asher Bell
also you're running 33 lands when you should be running like 38
Brandon Russell
theros has some damn good lands too
Aaron Hughes
/Edhg/, How do I effectively stop storm (abzan colors) or storm myself (not ur or mono g)? My meta went from sideways to graveyard sideways ti just graveyard to storm and desu I'm kinda lost. My hatebears (sadly no Tegg, I know) in karador just don't do it and I can just jam all the bears w/o having to win myself. Meta is Mizzix, G!Selvala, and nekusar/meren.
For storming myself I basicly can't grasp the playstyle but slinging xx spells a turn seems fun, bringing back the nostalgia of oldschool tcgs. Can you recommend me something that would fit? Just not super crazy money wise even tho proxies are allowed (but they have to become real cards over time)
Lucas Wood
>local johnny trying to make tiny leaders work I thought I was the only one
Bentley Sanders
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Brayden Robinson
>how new are we talking? picked them up last week from a brand new case from a high traffic store
Alexander Wilson
>tapland that makes one color and dies to board wipes
Carter Walker
>Calling Coffin Queen, Dance of the Dead, and Magus mediocre while running Ever After, Somberwald Sage
Kevin Thomas
On the bright side, Green Sun's Zenith.
Josiah Bennett
>goes infinite with Earthcraft
Christopher Rodriguez
that's true, but I guess I'd rather use Green Sun's Zenith on something other than a land
You'll have to explain that one to me
Anthony Roberts
Dryad Arbor isn't basic
Connor Cooper
Somberwald sage best waifu
David Thompson
>goes infinite with Earthcraft Earthcraft can only untap basics, user. And even if it could cause arbor to untap itself (as, you know, with an animated basic) I'm fairly certain that the result is infinite durdle unless you can trigger something when it becomes tapped or untapped..
Adrian Cruz
Typically, yeah, you would want to. GSZ is usually best for pulling wincons or combo pieces, but a little bit of ramp when needed never hurts.
Jason Bennett
>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused After dude casted doomsday and set off a combo planning to win with aetherflux reservoir and he had the smuggest look on his face I stifles his tower and he grabbed up shit shit and just walked out of the store Also, another dude had avacyn as his commander and after making some dudes and such he dropped Avacyn and he casted Wrath of god "Alright in response Ill turn to frog Avacyn" He grabbed up his shit while telling me that its people like me why hes quitting
Never saw him again
Nathaniel Howard
i know it doesnt work but there if it was a basic you could turn it into hermit druid 2.0
Adam Morales
>He grabbed up his shit while telling me that its people like me why hes quitting I sincerely hope to file this under "shit that never happened"
Hudson Nelson
Rule of law
Joshua Rivera
Swear to god it happened
Dylan Davis
>this would be a cool combo if the rules were different so it worked
Jordan Perry
apparently youre not very good at evaluating value and dont understand why those cards are bad, so let me break it down for you
coffin queen costs 3 mana to drop. then it needs a turn to recover from summoning sickness. then, you need to pay an additional 3 mana to reanimate something. you've now paid 6 mana to reanimate one thing at a one turn delay. now, if your coffin queen still isn't dead, you'll either untap and exile your guy or sac it, and then tap coffin queen again to reanimate something. you've now paid 4.5 mana to reanimate 2 things with an immensely frail and slow creature that dies to even a whiff of interaction. the creature also does nothing for you if you need to reanimate something immediately.
meanwhile, Ever After immediately reanimates 2 creatures for 3 mana each. you can argue that the fact that costs 6 mana is bad but coffin queen is still slower than it is.
dance of the dead is a mediocre card for edh because it's a sorcery speed single-target reanimation that has additional shithead clauses, like the fact that it comes tapped and you need to pay extra bullshit mana to untap it. if you want a cheap way to reanimate creatures for ETBs and such, corpse dance, Footsteps of the Goryo, victimize, etc. are better
magus is weak for the same reason coffin queen is, it needs a turn before it can tap, and it doesn't provide card advantage. there are much better looter effects in sultai colors.
somberwald sage is also a super powerful card and the fact that youre calling it bad is baffling to me
Hudson Smith
>t.johnny reeeeee get out this is the timmy format REEEEEEEE
Levi Gray
>Footsteps of the Goryo actually this card is kinda weak
necromancy is a direct upgrade though
Kevin Sanders
>doesnt play lapse of certainty in avacyn fag is better off playing another game