EDH/Commander General /edhg/

"Necron Bolas" Edition

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>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
magiccards.info/

>Thread Question
What's the craziest deck you've ever built; the one that has fewer staples and more batshit never-used-elsewhere choices? How did it go?

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tappedout.net/mtg-decks/20-06-17-kaalia-prototype/
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rakdos-first-attempt/
youtube.com/watch?v=owwQJ1ZMSho
tappedout.net/mtg-card/oracle-en-vec/
tappedout.net/mtg-card/total-war/
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I avoid playing colorless staples like sadbot and instead play fun cards. Sometimes that added consistancy is missed but other times it causes hilarious explosive wins. When you remove staples you flex your deck building muscles and start finding new engines that can fuel your decks.

>Thread Question
Fuck, I dunno. I built Shu Yun cantrip tribal once, that was a fun time.

I've been thinking about building Locust God, since I've never tried tokens or Izzet before.
From what I can tell (after a some reading) Wheels, Anthems, Mana Rocks/Acceleration and (maybe) Counterspells to keep Locust God/Tokens on the field seems to be good themes.
Anyone Have any advice, tips, secret tech?

How do you make group hug and win? Enlighten me please.

I made an Izzet Chaos deck with Nin on the helm.

Its hidden strategy was to put things to the board for free, so I can steal them with red/blue take control spells

From what i understand you just try and avoid hate while drawing into a combo or assembling pieces to go off. Your real goal should be to get more resources than you give out but imo it is not a very good strategy. If you like it then just go look at some primers but i think there are better things you can do.

I'm currently building ETB tech with, as you said, tons of wheels and some counterspells. Going Impact Tremors and Purphoros for kills. Got Lab Man in there as well for stupid wins. Mana Echoes is fucking retarded once you have a few insects lying around. I'm also going for Howling Mine style effects as well as Alhammaret's Archive and Consecrated Sphinx. Skullclamp is there for more drawan.

>What's the craziest deck you've ever built; the one that has fewer staples and more batshit never-used-elsewhere choices?
Progenitus 5 color tribal (i.e. the tribe is 5 color cards).

>How did it go?
It's... mediocre, honestly. Lots of bad cards that don't do anything, lots of mana issues, etc. It's fun alright, but I wouldn't call it good. It is also brand new and has only played two games so far, both of which it did alright in before losing to some bullshit (and nearly won one game, despite being Archenemy for like 6 turns), so it's not beyond hope.

I tried that card in my Rakdos, Lord of Riots deck, things get rather out of hand with both on the field.

Was brainstorming what I would build Unesh like.
It's shit, not gonna follow through with it, not even gonna skim the shit down.

>Guy in LGS: "look at all these fake Chinaman cards in my decks! You can't even tell them apart"
>A month or two later: "Have you seen my rare binder? I think I lost it at the shop last week"
Is this karma?

>fucking 3 people pulled him on prerelease
>myself included
I just wanted a scarab god and I got shit that's barely playable in EDH.

It's like Sophocles Cliff Notes.

So how much do casuals hate land destruction?

Neheb went straight into Akroma, Angel of Fury. It's massive value with like half the stuff I jammed in there.

Is it stupid to run 4 signets in a 4 color deck. Should I do more, less, or all possible.

Exactly as much as it should be hated.
2 colors = 1 signet
3 colors = 3 signet
4 colors = 6 signet
5 colors = 10 signet

>tfw you just got done utterly annihilating your monoblack deck, duplicate monoblack deck, and esper deck for cards that work really well in scarab god

Gearhulks, Panham, Sepulchral Primordial, and ulamog's nullifier, so i can get multiple copies of the cards that are worth it at instant speed.

I only run the x/green signets in my 5c deck; but I also run a heavily green mana base / fixing package. I've found that it works more often than not.

is there any card that prevents creatures from getting counters?

I know i've seen a card like that around but i can't find it now no matter what i put into gatherer

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Solemnity.

Solemnity, it's from the newest set.

Are gatecrash boxes worth buying to try and get more shock lands?

No. The people who sell boxes know the odds and if they're any good at their job will sell boxes for more than the singles are worth on average. Might as well go to a real casino if you want to gamble.

I want the gearhulks for breya but damn the blue one is expensive. Standard needs to rotate already.

I need advice on my Kaalia deck, particularly lands. I want to keep the manabase -relatively- budget, but part of me is saying "fuck it, I'm already probably spending at least 250 on this, might as well include good lands too".
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/20-06-17-kaalia-prototype/

>breya
Goddamn I'll be building that one for a while.

That ain't rotating for about a year.

I've been sitting on four of them ever since I stopped playing standard.

I know what i want to do with her its just getting all the pieces together thats taking a while.

Why did you stop? Also what deck even plays them with how expensive they are to cast?

Temur dynavolt was playing bluehulks. I just happened to have a blackhulk in my Gonti deck.

I stopped playing standard because I didn't like seeing the same decks over and over again- also, playing dynavolt decks during marvel / mardu standard was absolute suffering.

I gotcha. I guess when you have a card pool that small it gets kind of stagnant.

Mine's still on the drawing board. Not even sure which combos I want to include.

I started with wanting the salvaging/blasting station packages and figured i may as well put eggs in as well. Right now im just looking to add alternate wincons and just other things i can put in for fun.

>tfw your deck reaches 5000 views

Card draw in red? Is it just wheels?

fucking thanks!

Cathartic Reunion, Tormenting Voice ,
scorpion god in RB

>yfw you just wan to play magic but your work schedule means you don't have friends so you just colect and make decks but haven't played a game in years but you still have nice boxes of worthless crap so I guess thats nice

There's the exile kind with outpost siege, commune with lava, Chandra pyromaster, and some others.

i wanna make an Ashling the Extinguisher deck but i want it to be Oppressive any suggestions

Just bit the bullet and spent $60 on shock lands for saskia.

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Skullclamp if you're playing tokens, mad prophet, humble defector. Adding a fork or reverbertate to any of these works really well.

not bad m8, but i'd remove some basics for a shimmering grotto and mirage fetches

For Kaalia in particular, you need lands that come into play untapped. Your general is all about coming out very early, and getting to swing in order to drop a large threat onto the board. The longer you delay that swing, the worse your deck will be. You need to ditch all your lands that come into play tapped, basics are better than they are. If you are willing spend some dosh on lands, fastlands and painlands are both good, as are City of Brass, Mana Confluence, & Cavern of Souls.

thx senpai will do

Good choice. Optimizing your land base is one of those things that seems pretty boring but serves you better in the long run since it makes things so much smoother.

this is gonna be really good in neheb

they either block him and he deathtouches something, or they lose half their life and you btfo them with all that sick mana with an X burn spell.

>Equipped creature gets +1/+1 for each land on the battlefield with the same name as the exiled card.

I'm gonna play this in my monogreen deck, green is the most common color in edh right?


also: any way to tutor for sorcery spells in green?

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rakdos-first-attempt/

My first time playing commander. any tips?

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Also Planar Portal in colorless. I think green only tutors creatures and lands.

All depends on playgroup kouhai
You'll see a lot of people come in with real quick comments like "Should I this or that" and get ignored.
The game is dependent on way too many factors for people to take the time to throw out generalized ideas left and right.

It's all about what you're looking for.

That being said you're deck looks like it was throw together from shit you found lying around. A very aggressive early game deck that revolves around getting your commander out.
Since it's easy to shut down that kind of play style I'd recommend throwing in a Rift Bolt, can be really nice for getting Rakdos out on curve. Also more colorless creatures so you can drop them without having to worry too much about your mana.
Take your time and play around with it, see it's strengths and weakness and tune it in the direction you want it to go.

Thanks. I'm going to play it for the first time casually tomorrow, so any advice helps.

I wanna play some Selesnya. Should I make a Karametra, Selveta parley or wait for cat tribal?

Gaddock teeg hatebear/prison

Here's a few things to add:
>Forcefield
A strictly better Conservator. Yes, you will take 1 guaranteed damage, but the $200 price tag on this bad boy is worth it to hose those combo decks that end the game in a single alpha strike, and you have enough lifegain to offset this disadvantage. Also consider Rakalite and other damage prevention artifacts for maximum pillow fort.
>Razor Boomerang
Since you're in the BR burnfort archetype, you're gonna be lacking in card advantage compared to anything with blue. This can ping face infinitely given enough time and mana, and is a great mana sink when you're hellbent.
>Viashino Skeleton
A fine beater that can only be destroyed by the uncommon "can't be regenerated" clause of certain removal cards. Pitch your lands to it in the late game and your opponents will tear their hair out trying to figure out how to get rid of it.
>Tombfire
As Past in Flames and other flashback cards are often seen in Commander, you'll probably want to mainboard this hoser. I prefer this to Bojuka Bog simply because the tempo loss of a mono tapland simply isn't worth it, and there are better lands you can run in it's place anyways.

Stop responding to your own bait

Thoughts on building a new Neheb land destruction deck?

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I want to build a deck based around all out attacking, but not just me. I want a deck where EVERYONE has to attack each turn, even if they don't want to. I want GrandMelee.dec. Who would be the best commander for this? I was thinking Gahiji for his whole "attack other guys for a buff" schtick and for access to GW, but I'm not sure.

wtf is going on in that art? it's like someone took a snapshot of their drunken nightmare

Fumiko.

Fumiko the Lowblood forces that state.

>In geology and related fields, a stratum (plural: strata) is a layer of sedimentary rock or soil with internally consistent characteristics that distinguish it from other layers. The "stratum" is the fundamental unit in a stratigraphic column and forms the basis of the study of stratigraphy.
Mirrodin has plenty of strange and wonderful artifacts and creatures. That's some kind of golem or simulacrum preforming some kind of task relating to the earth, probably with magic involved due to the scythe's nature.

Dont forget avatar of slaugher as well so everything has double strike, then add a furnace of wrath effect for double damage from all sources hell throw in everything that gives additional combat phases too, just have a fog effect for yourself and let the games begin

another user here, i'm also building niv-cricket myself. I haven't pulled it off yet, but i'm trying to run a jank combo of mana echoes and well of ideas. all I have to do is instant speed draw spell and i can draw literally everything

side note, enter the infinite is mana expensive but pretty spicy with this guy

hug one guy
youtube.com/watch?v=owwQJ1ZMSho

tappedout.net/mtg-card/oracle-en-vec/
tappedout.net/mtg-card/total-war/

is this allowed with ashnods?

Correct

>opened this bad boy from my only reward pack on prerelease
Someone up there knows i have a boner for black

>still love the colorshifted border
>It's just $10 cheaper than the judge gift program one or the fullart one

Foil planar chaos damnations are at the same price as invocations

Prices are fucked for some things
>Scion of the Ur-Dragon
>-$5
>foil
>+$50

Auto-include in every B/G/x deck?

Yes

Hopefully we're getting it foil in the new precon

Those speculators would be so mad. Now I really hope for it, too, despite not really being interested in ever getting one.

Take it on a case-by-case basis.
The last sentence is just flavor text in Commander. 99% of the time it gets any two (non/basic) lands for 4G, up from explosive veggies which just gets basics at 3G. If you want to fetch a glacial chasm, dark depths, and so on, this does the trick. If you don't care, pass on it and just use veggies.

>that second clause that you'll never trigger taking up all that space
My autism

>Take it on a case-by-case basis.
Well, yeah. That's why auto-include in B/G. It gets Urborg + Coffers.

The leaks don't show Scion in foil. The three foil legendaries for the 5C dragon precon appear to be Ramos, O-Kagachi, and The Ur-Dragon.

Still no actual news about the other two decks other than Dragons and Cats?

Nope. This is the only thing that popped up recently.

I just want angels or spirits...

But you already have Kaliaa
Don't you like having everyone hate you off the table and having to put completely degenerate shit in your deck just so you can win then realizing your deck is arguably a typical beater deck?

And I want Vampires

I would lose my shit if spirits are one of the tribes. esper would be sweet.

I want sneks

The fact that reprints always erase the watermark bothers me more than it should.

Goddamn if it didn't say "another" on the las ability it would be a fucking good commander

I feel like doing a single tribe kinda under utilizes that commander... But I could just be an idiot.

He has some very powerful early pushing power since he buffs from the command Zone and his activated lets you scale well into mid game.
He's gonna be close to Isamaru in terms of early game aggression but still have the capability to be built for funsies.

So, I have Subjugator Angel and Sunblast Angel on the field and I play Ghostly Flicker to blink them
Would that destroy all my opponents creatures or, since they return at the same time, something different happens?

>tfw your dick reaches less