Adepta Sororitas?

So what do they do? What special purpose do the sisters of battle serve that the regular space marines cant fill?

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Bypass "Ecclesiarchy shall have no men at arms" decree on a technicality.

There's a lot more of them

be the Ecclesiarchy's fighting force

bypass the Decree Passive by having vaginers instead of schlonger dongers

Primarily being the church's beatstick as well as being the beat stick for Ordo Hereticus.

That said, I would love to play a Hospitalier in a Dark Hresey Game

A. Be an armed organization and fighting force for the Ecclessiarchy, the second-most powerful organization in the Imperium.

B. Act as a Chamber Militant for many Ordo Hereticus Inquisitors, because their goals mutually align and they have similar ideologies.

C. Act as protectors of Shrine Worlds and reliquaries of Imperial Saints.

D. Act as translators and linguists Sister Dialogous)

E. Be a walking symbol of Imperial faith and a direct extension of the power of the Imperial Church.

F. Be awesome.

From a fighting standpoint, they actually approach combat from a very different perspective and specialize in different tactics.

Space Marines are designed to fall out of the sky directly into the most dangerous part of the battlefield, and punch gigantic aliens to death with their fists as small units or even individuals. Their arms and armor are brutal and designed with multiple redundancies and failsafes, as well as designed to fight in incredibly harsh environments like the vacuum of space or toxic planets with little resupply. They are rebuilt genetically to be straight-up killing machines, and little else, because that's all they ever were supposed to be.

Sisters place overwhelming emphasis on the unit and unit coherency/discipline, and rarely fight as individuals unless necessary. Their arms and armor are also close range, but are not designed for the same level of hazard that Space Marines are. They primarily fight in defensive operations as bodyguards or in a counterinsurgency role as cult-busters, and as such are often facing foes that are less well armed and disciplined as themselves. They are peak-performance base humans dressed and equipped with the finest gear the infinite coffers of the Eccles. can buy, and are just as much a symbol of human purity and faith as they are soldiers. They are unquestionably and proudly human, whereas many consider Space Marines to be "transhuman" at best or sanctioned mutants at the worst.

They don't get corrupted at the rate of marines.

So much for the "superhumans"

Personal fighting force of the ecclesiarchy, almost entirely incorruptible, fallen Sisters can basically be counted in single digits, there's a lot more of them, and their faith powers let them summon giant women to light shit on fire and be an inspiring embodiment of the Emperor's power, or at least his people's belief he's a god.

A single Sister of Battle has more zeal than most (far from all) space marine chapters combined.

>Space Marines
>So prone to heresy it fucked the entire universe despite being intended to be incorruptible
>Sisters of Battle
>So zealous and willful their faith manifests as literal giant entities to destroy their foes.

Literally only the Blood Angels can claim to have something even CLOSE to that.

Would Sororitas helmets look good on Sisters of silence? I want to use a squad but the bald heads are ugly

Ignoring corruption, what areas are the sisters better in than the Imperial Guard or Space marines.

Porn

Summoning bigass warp(?) entities and having lots and lots of flamers. Plus they're generally a funnel for people to write in the most hilariously cheesy yet awesome shit into the imperium, like rocket-launching organs or walkers piloted by agonized servitors preaching gospel. In the field of Demons, being incorruptible is also essential, especially as it's imposisble to have GKs be literally everywhere there's major demonic presence in the materium.

That said, their most important function is their status as the servants of the ecclesiarchy, preventing the church of this fuckhueg religion just being background material.

They're right in the middle. Better armor and skills than the common guard and bigger numbers than marines.

*Daemons, before anyone bitches. Autocorrect really has a stickler for this one.

Looking like they came out of a metal cover somehow harder than most Chaos units do, and being generally pretty badass.

They're powered armored badass that are more expendable so they can be massacred every time they appear so you know how srs the enemy is before the protagonists show up.
Assuming of course the protagonists aren't the ones doing the massacring.

This, sadly, which is a shame since most of their units are awesome and the living saint thing is kind of hard to gloss over, but they do have a few books that let them get the upper hand for once.... like, two. Being a Sisters fan is suffering.

use of fate points, more flamers/meltas per squad, st celestine, somewhat better value for money since just power armor is easier to procure than power armor and super soldier plus power armor

there always looks like a niche for people in between SM and IG power

They exist so confused neckbeards can jack off to space marines without feeling gay

Spiritual Guardians of humanity

>The heathen alien, the witch-psyker, the abhuman and the foulness of the mutant, even the sickening monstrosities of the Ruinous Powers - all these forces beat at the walls of humanity's salvation and tried again and again to drag it screaming into impiety and damnation. None saw this as clearly as the Sisters of Battle. Oh, it was true that they did not fight this tide of enemies alone, but one could not expect the common soldiery of the Imperial Guard to weather such threats. The Inquisition, while companionable in some forms to the work of the Sororitas, often dallied too closely with the very things they set out to expunge. And the Adeptus Astartes, the Emperor's Space Marines... They were a melange of conflicted, tribal warrior bands that embraced undependable psychics and the tenets of transhumanism. A few of their number were more tolerable than the others, and all were faithful to the Throne in their own crude conduct... But they were never to be trusted.

They are the Church's unquestioning lapdog. That is their only unique role in the setting- Inquisitors, Guard and Marines so everything else better.

>peak-performance

I see you too tread the path of the swole.

I wouldn't call Saint Celestine just an unquestioning lapdog, she pretty much takes control of the entire situation whenever she shows up.

Their intended purpose is to serve as the Ecclesiarchyy's Gestapo, acting as both propaganda and enforcers. However, they have since come to fulfill an additional function as regional auxiliaries and policewomen. At times, they have lent themselves as effective defenders of the realm - the most famous instances being that one counteroffensive against a Tyranid invasion and the 13th Black Crusade.

These fearsome ladies exist because people thought (correctly) that a faction of loosely French, Joan of Arc space nuns, outfitted with Marine quality gear & unfailing faith would be pretty kick ass.

A Space Marine might be the equal to a hundred Imperial Guard due to superior genetics, training and equipment, but even they can't be everywhere.

the Sororitas have access to similar levels of training and equipment, and thanks to the sheer numbers of Orphans the Imperium creates every year, probably eclipse the number of Space Marines by an order of magnitude.

and they operate on different levels.

have a war you need to win or a planet you need reclaimed? send in the Guard.
have an open rebellion or widespread cult uprising? send in the Sisters.
have an impossible scenario you need dealt with? send in the Marines.

You are probably long gone by this point and it isn't exactly what you asked, but here is a WIP shot of a sister i'm converting out of a sister of silence with the SoB helmet. And a few other bits. But I think the helmet wouldn't look too bad even if everything else was pure Sisters of silence.

what is the most powerful organization in the imperium then? the inquisition?

Sororitas are the ones that watches the watchmen.

Sisters Famolous are basically Commissars for the noble houses. They also prevent inbreeding by arrenging marriage or taking one for the team if needed.

The non militant orders are the invisible hand that keeps the imperium politics from tearing themself a new asshole again.

IG or marines are fucking up. Send in the Sisters, they will hack the battlefield with faith magic.

Part of me thinks Sisters have "Imperium Idol" program just for propaganda sake.
You can't rebel if you are worried about Sister Amanda her conflict with Sister Celestia

The point of the Imperium is that nobody has too much power so they all hold each other by the balls and can't coup successfully.

Are you retarded?

Are you? is oversimplifying but essentially correct. Guilliman's reforms following the Heresy deliberately put different arms on the Imperium in balance with each other. The Ecclesiarchy grew overly mighty afterwards and Sebastian Thor reformed things to limit their power too.

The Imperial Guard may have no space ships. The Navy is permitted very few troops. Marine chapters are limited to 1000 strong.

It's a deliberate design.

The smart alec answer is "The High Lords of Terra".

>shredded destruction the post

>unquestioning lapdog
That is literally, literally literally, the exact opposite of their role.
They can, and will, directly call out any questionable conduct the Church is conducting.
As well as most other departments of the Imperium.

They are kind of 'Inquisition Lite'.

>taking one for the team
Do tell me more

>Be an armed organization and fighting force for the Ecclessiarchy, the second-most powerful organization in the Imperium.

I'm glad you know your place, as well as understanding the Omnissiah reigns supreme.

Marines/Guard = the enemy from without

Sisters/Inquisition = the enemy from within

If for some reason they can find proper noble girls or the noble is a fag, Famulous will do what is needed in order to have non retarded and heretical nobles.
So if she has to literally hire gay whores for the gay noble, keep the jeez in a cup to impregnate the noble girl. She will do it.

And now I gross my self out.

Thiscis kinda hot though

But that's the point, to keep the answer to your question ambiguous.

In the old Soviet Union, there were three great powers that ruled the country collectively: the Party, the KGB, and the military. Each had intelligence assets, men under arms, and a claim to power... in varying quantities but they each had them. Anytime one power became too strong and threatened to take over, the other two unified to take them down. But never enough to tilt the balance too far the other way. And no single group had a total monopoly on anything.

The Imperium is like that squared and cubed. There are many institutions which claim to be semiautonomous and outside direct Imperial control: the Space Marines, the Administratum, the Ecclesiarchy, Rogue Traders, Inquisitors, the Adeptus Mechanicus, and of course every planet is governed semiautonomously as well.

They each have their own militaries. And actually each is pretty self sufficient... But there's always at least one thing that they don't have and can't make for themselves and so have to get from the Imperium. Space Marines need forgeworlds to make their equipment. Rogue Traders have no authority within the Imperium itself. And of course the Inquisitors are the most powerful legally, but get NOTHING of their own. They have to requisition everything and even their Chambers Militant belong to other factions.

So the Imperium is a series of overlapping and interdependent factional empires. The Sisters' role is on paper to support the Inquisitors and Ecclesiarchy but really it's about being yet another redundant counterbalancing military force to keep the Guard and Marines from becoming too essential and thereby upsetting the balance of power.

does the Ecclesiarchy has the right to launch military operation such as conquest of solar system or does it just lead religious purge against heretics ?

There are Priest and Sisters Orders that their only job is to prepare worlds for the Imperiums arrival.
That either means convert the world to the Imperial Truth or do recon for a proper church invasion.

The Imperium has "Invaders" from Invader Zim.

Wars of Faith are Crusades in all but name, declared by the Ecclesiarch and of which, the Sisterhood is heavily involved.
These are easily in the scope of Crusades.

Also, if an Imperial world is threatened, the SoBs will be supplied to help defend the people and church assets and bolster existing Sororita forces present.
If the Church really wants to invade a world, well, Saint MacGuffin once spent a day there, Sister Bookworm assures me her research was quite thorough and it's in our- I mean the Imperium's best interests that we must secure this holy site.

So, Bene Gesserit without actually taking the shot themselves, in their cunt.

I'm sure there is a story of a Sister falling for a noble and taking that shot just waiting to be written, with all kinds of taboo, heresy and star-crossed lovers to be had.
Can Love Bloom in Hive Sibellus?

>get up
It rather looks like she is floating in the air.

Shitty army obsessed over by shitty people. Essentially human eldar or tau in that regard.

In therory they answer directly to the Ecclesiarch. But because there is currently no abbess of the Adepta Sororitas, the prioresses and every order under them are basically independant.
And since Alicia Dominica beheaded Vandire, there is a strong precedent in not taking shit from the higher up anyways.

To be fair part of that was Emps being an idiot and actively denying the existence of Chaos.

I both love and loath this idea in equal measure because the masses of the Imperium are dumb enough to fall for it.

Gotta love them technicalities.

This idea that Space Marines are the Imperium's main fighting force is a retarded one. They're semi-independent special forces, there aren't many of them and they can't be everywhere.

Exactly, it sounds ridiculous but there are thousands of years of real life precedent for people following the literal letter of the law as loopholes.

>Space Marines are designed to fall out of the sky directly into the most dangerous part of the battlefield, and punch gigantic aliens to death with their fists as small units or even individuals. Their arms and armor are brutal and designed with multiple redundancies and failsafes, as well as designed to fight in incredibly harsh environments like the vacuum of space or toxic planets with little resupply. They are rebuilt genetically to be straight-up killing machines, and little else, because that's all they ever were supposed to be.

This is wrong you fucking simp.

how so ?
are you telling me that space marines aren't killing machine, impervious to any environment hazard, who punch alien on a regular basis ?

cater to human gamers with tits. some have a Y chromosome

She's also a living saint

You know the second most direct link to big e than bobby G

The stupid part is...Ecclesiarchy has armed men, priests with guns and crusaders and what not. And then the rulebook claim that those violate the decree "technically but not in spirit" because there was so few of them. But then, they have the sororitas who violate the decree in spirit but not technically. So it's like...Why even make bullshit like that if you gonna contradict yourself immediately after.

>Looking like they came out of a metal cover somehow harder than most Chaos units do, and being generally pretty badass.
These are important attributes

Space marines cant be everywhere and Im sure marines have better things to do than defend the ecchlisiarchy's worlds and interests

The Sisters haven't been "normal" for quite a while. Sisters have Acts of Faith now, which is psyker powers without the corruption or perils of the Warp, it's immune to anti-psychic weapons, and can even nullify other psychic powers altogether. Their Living Saints are pretty much the upscale version of their Acts of Faith and it's heavily implied they're the Emperor's Daemon Princes equivalent. I guess GW wanted a better explanation for why SoBs are more immune to Chaos corrupt than most Space Marines and humans.

welcome to the imperium
lot of things doesn't make sense
the pauldrons for example

This. People seem to forget that the Space Marines make up only a million, give or take, and yet people expect them to guard over a million worlds, protect trillions of humans, and against the countless more Xenos, Witches, Daemons and Heretics that prey upon them?

To be fair, most of them join the IG to improve their moral with zeal instead of BLAMing.
youtube.com/watch?v=JbCjE4af1OE

Ecclesiarchy used to have like LOADS of elite soldiers and LOADS of war ships. Having several million bolter bitches and hordes of badly armed rubble doesn't seem terrible for the High Lords. It's not a balance breaking force, but it helps to pay for defense and mutant purging, saving manpower (joke not intended) from other places.

It's kinda like the JDF. Yeah they are not "soldiers". Yeah it's not a "carrier". They know it, we know it, they pretend it's kosher, we pretend it's kosher because at least they are not shouting Tenno Heika Banzai this time, they just keep an eye on the North koreans.

Faith being psychic in nature isn't new.
In the earlier editions the warp was far more diverse than today with stuff like the Starchild and chaotic entities not related to the big four.

And it makes the irony of witch-hunting even sweeter.

>faction with a seat in the High Lords, command of the state religion, untold wealth and the ear of the masses gets to bend the rules
>more news at 11

Next, let me tell you about how SM chapters, even Ultramarines, have more than 1000 space marines, and how it's all according to the codex...

The gamers or the tits?

Have you tried working in the cattle insemination business?

>Sisters Famolous are basically Commissars for the noble houses.
Then they're fucking terrible at their jobs considering 99% of nobles in the Imperium are useless fops incapable of doing anything beyond selfish and petty scheming and like half of them are secretly worshipping Chaos.

The Inquisition should be monitoring these corrupt fools, but as it's shown time and time again, that Inquisitors are just as corruptible or as incompetent as any other human. Probably moreso, given the countless examples in 40k lore showing Inquisitors corrupted by chaos, destroying more lives and resources than they actually save, or making the Imperium far worse than it is by compromising the effectiveness of the Space Marines, Imperial Guard and other military forces.

I'm glad Robby G is back to constrain the nobility and Inquisition's stupidity and wicked acts because at this point, they're doing a better job of destroying the Imperium than Abaddon ever could. Maybe Horus was right, and the Primarchs are the better leaders for humanity.

>99%
Chaos or Tau propaganda. If they sucked so bad the Imperium would be dead by now.
There are more stories of incompetent Astartes than incompetent nobles.

Astartes are a mistake.

#HorusDidNothingWrong

>wanting more marines
>the guys that have like 50% chance to go full chaos

Why?

The weakness of Astartes is that they follow their leaders. They only turned to heresy because their primarchs did. Because there are no more primarchs the Astartes can't turn to heresy anymore.

There's a fuckload more of them. Honestly though, it's kinda retarded that the SoB have the monopoly on power armored mortal troops. Tempestus scions at least should have power armor, maybe some other elite division of the imperial guard or certain chapter serfs as well.

>Because there are no more primarchs the Astartes can't turn to heresy anymore.
>who are the Red Corsairs
>who are the fuckload of renegade chapters and warbands
>what is the abyssal crusade
Bro at least skim the fluff before you go on the internet and say something this retarded

Ecclesiarchy has the cash and tithes (and clout) to pay for power armor.
They'd need a lot of tech adepts and tech priests to keep things running though, so they must have some nice deals with Mars going as well.

Are there more scions than sisters? One would guess that they'd have roughly equal numbers, but if not that could be a reason.

They also get better guns.

>skimming the list
>crusaders of dorn
>mfw thats the name I've been giving my OC chapter
fuck

>-MARTYR EXTREMIS-

#NEVERFORGET

>Honestly though, it's kinda retarded that the SoB have the monopoly on power armored mortal troops.
not really? power armour is basically just the ecclesiarchy waving their huge amount of "donated" money around.

Stormtroopers/guard don't need it. That's like a thousand extra potential issues with supply and maintenance. You can train a schola graduate to maintain his hotshot lasgun and carapace armour. But power armour -requires- mechanicus aid.

Powerful handjobs

They are a tier up from regular IoM militia. They are the elite of regular citizens.

Checked

What the fuck are you talking about you blubbering cunt?

Statistically that can't be true you dumb fuck

Two seats. The SOB have a seat and so does the Ecclessiarchy. The SOB one is rotating, like the Charist Captains (Another group the Ecclessiarchy has strong ties to) and the Navigator houses.

>it's kinda retarded that the SoB have the monopoly on power armored mortal troops.

The SOB have a treaty on it that basicly shits money at the Mechanicus like king midus with the runs.

More to do with the dark gods finding it far more valuable to corrupt an Astartes then a Sororita. And they get corrupted all the time anyway.

>And the Adeptus Astartes, the Emperor's Space Marines... They were a melange of conflicted, tribal warrior bands that embraced undependable psychics and the tenets of transhumanism. A few of their number were more tolerable than the others, and all were faithful to the Throne in their own crude conduct... But they were never to be trusted.
>I worship The Emperor as a god (literally the worst insult you could give him)
>but his literal grandsons and greatest work and also the greatest heroes of the Imperium are mutants and not to be trusted, mkay?
>Also psykers are evil witches even though The Emperor was a psyker
This retardation and hypocrisy is something i'll never be able to stomach about SoBs and Ecclesiarchy in general.

>Two seats.

Three. You forgot the Cardinals of the Holy Synod of Terra. Though I'm sure they all control their own areas.

I mean, Imperial Fleet has two permanent seats with both The Speaker for the Chartist Captains and Lord High Admiral of the Imperial Navy. And then you got the Lord Commander Militant of the Imperial Guard and the The Chancellor of the Estate Imperium (who oversees the Munitorum, which oversees the Imperial Guard). And The Master of the Astronomican and The Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica, which also work together very strongly.

Don't they sometimes outright marry the nobles?

>Literally more than 50% of Space Marines have either been Lost or declared Traitor, Loyalists are the minority
>Only a bare handful of Sisters have succumbed to Chaos, ever
Now why would the SoB be suspicious of the Space Marines, hmmm?

>be far less worth but just as hard to corrupt
>expect the dark gods to give shit about you
Not to mention Space Marines have FAR more runs-ins with Chaos, and far more dangerous shit then a bunch of cultists with the occasional lesser daemon.
>supposedly love The Emperor while shitting on everything he stood for
>hate his actual grandsons who keep his dream and legacy alive while at the same time showing disdain for literally everything that made Big E who he was
The better question is how the fuck to Astartes tolerate them? Oh, that's right, they've got far more important shit to do.