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Thread question:
How do you make a full Primaris Chapter interesting when all Primarines were trained the same way and they were all created when Guilliman decided "hey, this planet and/or section of the galaxy needs a 1000 marine garrison" ?
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You don't. Fluffing is stupid. Pick a symbol and color scheme. Make sure the paint is thin. Don't forget to shade and wash.
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Find a theme and build around it. These guys were based around fleet so they have a lot of fliers, skimmers and jump packs, bikes for everybody else who're stuck on the ground. So mix in some Primaris to phase them out with similar tactics, claim warp shenanigans like GW does with FUCKING EVERYTHING and you've got yourself a Primaris Chapter that replaced something longer standing.
Didn't someone mention that existing marines can be put through the primaris process to upgrade their marineyness?
Make a chapter thats half pure(?) primaris and half uplifted(?) primaris. So the heroes of your chapter are the ones badass enough to be upgraded and the others are the ones they train.
I had a few ideas, but I wanted to know if they were taken already. Is there something in the 40k universe that basically amounts to the psychic echos of a consumed soul manifesting into a semi physical form in both the warp and the material realm to combat the forces of chaos with their short lifespan?
In really quick bullet points that I was texting a friend earlier
In the Horus Heresy Peregrine The Wanderer is the IInd Legion primarch, leader of the Imperial Rangers. Marksmen, death world ecosystem specialists, Xenos megafauna hunters, Imperial Colonial security.
His flaw was he was too fascinated with exploring the galaxy and let his Legion spread too far and wasn't logistically coherent with the Crusade. Eventually rallied as much of his Legion as he could at the edge of the galaxy with the intention of leaving in search of what he believes based on very vague clues to be a human population in the next galaxy, Emperor unleashes his wrath for what he deems an entire Legion going AWOL or even possibly seceding, most elements of the Legion destroyed by Space Wolves and Ultramarines, some escaping into the intergalactic void, some surrendering to the Ultramarines (Wolves wouldn't accept surrender) and some elements arriving late or not arriving at all
Elements that surrender to the Ultramarines are absorbed into the Legion and at the end of the Heresy formed into a chapter under the punishment of permanent Crusade of penitence
Nominally an Ultramarines successor but really still stock of Peregrinus. By 40k they're almost utterly broken and still running mostly on Heresy era equipment - but their Heresy era gear is their working attire, not their chapter's relics, so obviously it's pretty busted up. When Guilliman returns he feels bad seeing how the Rangers are still holding true through their penance and gives them some Primaris reinforcements and shit.
Be a way to run some core Astartes units using the Heresy era plastics with 3rd party kitbashing with some Primaris units here and there, maybe Reivers and Interceptors or Hellblasters
Main colour is grass green with white and yellow accents and markings
Monastic Chapter that believes the key both to achieving humanities true potential and defeating chaos forever is the termination of the self, via rigorous self denial and meditation. Chapter Name: Wisdom Kings
My Iron Hands have the amazing story of never winning a single battle, ever.
Sounds like you need more augments
Trying out some fiction for my dudes, rate or hate. I'm not structuring it as a story, becuase its mostly a rough draft.
Knights of the Starlight Hawk
They were created to be self sufficient & to lead a fleet of colony city-ships, Voidship Fleet Thunderous. Their Chapter base is the ship Starstorm. They were created without the restriction to reproduce. They most likely come from Salamander gene-seed. They were originally a group of 1000 Stormtroopers from the planet Golden who were selected to become the fodder for Cawl's experience 10,000 years ago. Their leader Felix became the Chapter Master, the Chapters name used to be the Sons of the Patriarch, but was changed after an encounter with a strange Warp entity & corresponding artifact.
It all culminated in a pitched battle, years after the Ultima Founding deep in the Great Scar. Felix had long since died in battle, his son, & then his son's as well, the current Chapter Master & descendant of Felix, Vendric lead his forces to an unnamed & uninhabited planet fleeing a pursuing daemonic horde. The Marines found ruins from an unknown civilization & were trying to defend them but suffered heavy losses, CM Vendric dies in battle leading the defences. His son, Bradley, a scout at the time received a vision, a blue & dark grey hawk, flying out toward a particular building in the ruins, he led his men towards the building, fighting through Daemons until they reached its inner sanctum. They found a large crystalline bird like sculpture attached to a device. A tech marine with them was able to decipher it's use as a planet based defence weapon to shoot down voidships, the device was powered by the Warp. After modifying it, it was activated destroying the Daemons. Bradley then ordered the artifact loaded onto the Starstorm. Since then many marines have seen visions of the Starlight Hawk guiding them to safety or to where they were most needed.
"Your Dudes" is code for mary sues.
Don't play mary sues. Even GW realizes this, which is why they made the keyword system, to steer you to socially acceptable chapters and factions.
The fuck is wrong with you?
Some even believe that the Hawk itself guides the fleet instead of navigators or the Emperor's Astronomicon.
The Chapter under the rule of Bradley have been renamed the Knights of the Starlight Hawk, & have since gained glowing pale blue-white eyes. The cult religion has made its way into the ship-cities, most believing it a manifestation of the Emperor or at least some servant of Him.
The city-ships of Fleet Thunderous also adopt a feudal society. Most without family names end up adopting the name of their ship as a last name. Trade & travel between city-ships allows flows freely, & the fleet is governed by a council of Captain-Kings, headed by Lord Astran Teryn of Voidship Venturous, the largest & wealthiest city-ship.
The SMs are aided by the fleets own Stormtroopers. The Starlight Guard
I like this. Is there Homeworld one big Shrine world of Shaolin temples & such?
Do they install a part of he gene-seed with every level of enlightenment?
Who is their progenitor?
Not always the case, some are quite reasonable. Others, like are snowflake clusterfucks with mutated blanks and shit
>Is there something in the 40k universe that basically amounts to the psychic echos of a consumed soul manifesting into a semi physical form in both the warp and the material realm to combat the forces of chaos with their short lifespan?
It's called a Daemon
But look up The Legion of The Damned
Make them interesting by giving them a cool reason for existing. Primarises were all originally just one giant legion, Robby split them off as needed into specific chapters.
Maybe your chapter was created to guard an ancient unsealable chaos gate. Or to patrol a particular trade route known for piracy.
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Mutated blanks?
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user is a salt-ridden candyass who doesn't like the background that my custom chapter has accumulated over the last 20 years of narrative campaigns. tl;dr, Cursed Founding Chapter had some form of Gene-Seed mutation that slowly sapped away the "soul" of some marines, effectively creating Blanks for all intents and purposes. Said marines opt to commit suicide to protect the chapter and return the mutated gene-seed for study in hopes of a fix/cure.
Damn dude I aspire to accumulate as much lore one day. God speed user!
To be perfectly honest, it was a great ride but I'm just glad to have the mutation phasing out. It was an interesting bit of head cannon in my group, but it never did anything in-game other than being a good scapegoat for my notoriously bad rolls.
It is literally impossible for a marine to be a blank. Your twenty years of headcanon can't change that.
It is subjectively improbable. No amount of bitching and moaning is going to change the fact that people had fun with a stupid little story and rolling the odd quirk, tweak and attribute for their armies. ffs user, you act like I'm going to submit this to GW for review...
No, it is objectively impossible according to Horus Heresy Book 7, which states that every single attempt at a marine blank fails, because the Geneseed is partially warp based in nature.
>socially acceptable
>40k
Yes, during the Heresy, not during the 21st Founding.
In that time is it not possible that some insane magos would've spent a millennium or two tinkering around with introducing the Pariah Gene into a mutated and weakened form of Gene-Seed?
You keep citing one bit of a single book that was relevant for that portion of its time. That was also the time before the Culexus Temple was founded and only a short time before the brilliant plan to create the Grey Knights came to fruition.
I'm not here to change your mind and I sure as fuck am not asking for the approval of you or anybody else. We rolled shit on handmade tables, these are the results, we kept with the trends and built stories and campaigns around those. Very much like GW wanted players to do.
I am not going to waste any more time on your dumbass just because you're too retarded to appreciate the fact that people are out there having fun with a game that its creators have pushed and insisted that people get more creative with since the games launch.
Cursed Founding made a lot of stuff that wasn't Kosher. Let the dude have his thing. How does it hurt you?
Well all the tales of peoples doods have inspired me to make my own space marine chapter the "Hands of Justice" I dont got much so far and im hoping for colour ideas from all your lovely fa/tg/uys.
>That was also the time before the Culexus Temple was founded
A culexus was sent as part of the team to kill Horus. Now I know you're talking out your ass.
Well they're already perfectly fit to blend into an ice world.
Some army of actually benevolent or at the very least decent warp entities that try to help humanity. Small because Chaos is usually a dickish force.
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Funny, I guess I should clarify with a question that is admittedly stupid. What colour is justice?
An assassin who was a Pariah was part of the team. The full establishment of the Temple was still underway into the Heresy and didn't regain stability until after the fact. I haven't read any of the HH books but from what I can recollect from old fluff from GW, they weren't called Culexus yet. I can understand if that's changed over the years and if so then it's news to me. That doesn't change the fact that you're a whiny bitch.
The Void Raptors are an Ultima Founding Primaris chapter. Of raven guard genestock they were one of the first full chapters of primaris sent away from the indomitus crusade, sent back with the raven guard delegation at Gullimans resurrection. They are now a fleet based chapter that mark themselves with the exile markings of sons of deliverence that know they will never see their home and the home of their primarch again.
They are a fleet based chapter operating with battlefleet bakka at the end of the indomitus crusade.
Red, White and Blue.
Are you trying to summon the American Marines?
I liked the idea of them being recruited during the heresy and from kiavahr or deliverence. Their grand father or great grandfather's fought with corax, might even have been astartes.
They get back and their "brother" look at them and send them to die in the void. Carcharadons 2.0 I know but they are mine.
Maybe
Someone ask for me?
Great, now we just need the bangin' necron snakelady and the whole gang will be here.
Paint them literally black & white, top left & bottom right black, top right & bottom left white.
Hands are red. Heads are gray
So how is the new paint job? Still hideous? Or maybe hideous is a good way?
I went with more white so it looks like an eagle more, kept the blue in the center a bit of red for accents & stripes down the middle. It still has more gold than I think people like but I did get rid of the gold belt. Might get red of the gold knee trim too.
Ask and ye shall receive.
House Gotrekh was once a small Necrontyr dynasty which believed it could cure the inherent infirmity of their race with the genes of their unusually healthy Phaerakh. The Biotransferrence ended those dreams, and they awoke from the Great Sleep to the ruins of the Necrontyr empire. Phaerakh Medethea, once poised to be her people's savior, now sees no hope for her race. She dedicates the strength of the Gotrekh Dynasty instead to preserving other races that may yet have a chance to achieve their genetic destiny and stride in the ethereal realm of the Old Ones.
Unabridged fluff here-
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In recent developments she has gained a wicked, hedonistic sister at the head of another user's dynasty... one not too fond of "Little Miss Perfect," who would like very much to see her sister's head mounted on the wall above her mantle.
I'll be frank, I've always rather liked the raw gaudy ostentation of the paint schemes you come up with. It feels very old-time patriotic, like an early superhero.
Thank you. I felt like it sort of fits the whole theme. But everyone kept saying it look like trash so I wanted to at least make the Eagles of Liberty presentable.
Btw what colors are your necro preservatonists?
House Gotrekh uses a opalescent white Necrodermis alloy, with bronze accents and accessories, and green lights as per typical Necrons. Higher ranking individuals may have gold accents as well, such as the Phaerakh's own treasured death mask.
One day I'll actually finish the reference that shows this off. One day.
My enlightened brother!
I have spoken of them a few times but I fancy the idea of the Knights of the Wheel. Shaolin Space marines who are big on CQC and who's chapter master is currently a dreadnaught.
Brother Initiates will receive all implants sort of like space wolves but they must all complete the different chambers of training until they achieve the rank of enlightened (Thus becoming enlightened brothers) to which they can then go and teach any of the chambers becoming specialist.
Their version of honor guard are the Arhats who exclusively wear Terminator armor (or in this case the new Gravis Armor) and have members from the LIbrarians, Apothecary and the Reclusiem and form the leadership of the chapter whenever the chapter master is in stasis.
I think for my part it's best to make them a fleet based chapter who recruit from various worlds not particularly favoring one or another.