Who was in the wrong here?

Fuck off, Frenchie

>It's LU-TE-NAT. Not LEFT-TEN-NAT.
The imperium is british, not american. They say lieutenant the right way.

This. LIEUTENANT means the one who is left tenant. So the British pronounciation is fine. As for why it's still spelt the French way, everything military is spelt the French way.

Got to wonder why burgs have such an issue with the british lieutenant.

I don't think I've ever head people complain about someone pronouncing "colonel" with an r

>lieutenant

BUTTER BAR

>colonel

FULL BIRD

I love it how everyone is defending Titus because Leandros is a dick and the Inquisitor is a pompous fuck.

But remember, Nemeroth pointed out a truly suspicious thing - Brother Captain Titus indeed was surprisingly resistant to Warp's touch. Is it extreme courage and conviction, or inner corruption? It is Inquisition's job to find out.

The Black Templars are always correct.

>It is Inquisition's job
Nah m8, it's the chaplains and librarians jobs, and the captain already said he'd convene with them about it when he returned to the chapter.

Space marine like to do everything in-house if possible, and they can do so because they share many of the same privileges as the inquisition.

Leaving such potentially threatening matters like Chaos corruption of a Company Captain solely in the hands of a chapter, and barring Inquisitorial supervision, is allowing the seeds of Heresy to spread freely.

There is a reason why the Ordos have some authority over the chapters.

>There is a reason why the Ordos have some authority over the chapters.
And there's a reason why the heads of inquisitors frequently roll in chapter fortresses.

Only proving there are reasons for Inquisitorial activities.

Orks have conquered Forgeworlds in the fluff.

I like to imagine Guilliman had a nice chat with him

>Space marine like to do everything in-house if possible
Which is why its exactly the Inquisition's job to investigate such things. Every Imperial organisation wants to keep things in-house, Space Marines are often just a bit better at doing it. They don't actively murder every Inquisitor poking around, because that's a sure fire sign you're hiding something and it WILL provoke a response because you don't just murder other loyal servants of the Emperor for no reason. Only the Dark Angels regularly do that sort of thing, and even then only on Fallen related activities and its just Inquisitors "going missing".

I think he'd have been seconded to the Deathwatch at the next available opportunity. Its theoretically a position of honour as befitting someone with experience saving a forgeworld from Orks and showing "commendable initiative" in helping the Inquisition, but its functionally exile to a group where he is guaranteed to have to take orders from Space Marines who care even less about the Codex than Titus. Its a perfect political solution: Leandros gets punished for flouting the Chapter's customs (if not the laws as written), while the Inquisition gets assurances that the Ultramarines as a whole are on the up-and-up at the cost of a single disruptive influence. If Leandros survives he will win glory for the chapter and gain them allies, but will be foroever marked as a servant of the Inquisition. If he dies, he dies serving the Emperor. Everybody wins except Leandros!

There is a difference between a chapter and the fucking Ultramarines.

Let's be honest. If that inquisitor is any good the only thing he would do to Titus would have been to escort him to Ultramar and leaving the matter to the chapter. Titus gets tested by the librarius, The Ultramarines get to do everything in-house, and the Inquisitor has now established a good relationship with a first founding chapter.

Meanwhile Leandros get assigned to clean the ultrashitters for the next century.

It's 40k so every one. The point of the setting is to be a crapsack universe where every one is the bad guy.

Again, you base your judgement on the fact that Titus is a likable character and Leandros and the Inquisitor are not.

No one is above the law. Do you mean that to tell me that possible corruption in the command echelon of first founding chapter should be ignored by the Inquisition and left for the chapter do deal with, but in case of a chapter founded in, say, 36th millenium, it should be investigated?

I think I remember the grey knights taking Uriel Ventris and putting him through pretty extensive and thorough purification rituals before handing him back to the chapter.

Have you any idea of how the Inquisition works?

Yes, an Inquisitor has absolute autority, but that autority is mantained by having good relationships with lots of Imperial bodies and a network of favours to call for.

This is the big difference. If the chapter in question is the celestial lions then you can have their apothecaries getting killed by ork snipers, but if you try to do that to the Ultramarines you are not pissing off a single chapter, you are pissing off everyone that has a good relationshipt with them, which amount to basically half of the entire Imperium.

That inquisitor has two options. Not pissing off a first founding chapter or pissing off a first founding chapter.

In the first case he do some routine controls, maybe he does some ritual but the big part is that he leaves the matter in the hand of the Ultramarine. For which the Ultra will be grateful, and now that Inquisitor the next time he need something he can just call Ultramar and says "Hey, remember when I left alone that Captain? I have a favor to ask".

On the other hand if he manage to piss off the chapter, the next time he need a ship to go to some place he risk that the current admiral will respond him "you are the one that waste his time pissing off the Ultra? The same Ultras that saved my world multiple times? Well, we currently have all ships occupied, I can offer one to you in some months". And let's not talk about all the other Inquisitors loyal to Ultramar that are now gunning for that guy.

There is a reason first founding chapters are allowed as much shit as they do. The Wolfes have basically declared war to the Inquisition. The DA probably have a tally about who made the most inquisitor disappear.

Also, let's look at the situation and the scene. Titus just saved an entire forgeworld from becoming a daemon world. It doesn't really scream "chaos corruption". It's a big different from Titus being found screaming BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD on a pile of corpses

corruption in the command echelon of the Ultramarine so ingrained that the Librarius and the chapliancy can't root out (or are part of the corruption itself) it's basically a worst end scenario because it means basically a new Heresy. I reming you that half of the space marine chapters are ultra successors that are more loyal to them than to the other imperial autorities.

If things have already gotten to that stage then the Imperium is fucked, no matter what would a lone inquisitor do.

The best part was them fighting against the GK captain 2v1 and see if they won. If they did they were guilty because they could have accomplished that only with chaos assistance and thus were to be shot.

Whoever made both the Inquisitor and Player Marine look like Sam Neil. They went over their Sam Neil quota.

Allegedly, the main guy of the game said that in the sequel it would've turned out that he had Khorne's Mark/Blessing (Like that Tau fag from Fire Warrior) and the game would've been about him "going rogue" and "making his own chapter out of other rogue space marines" like the Soul Drinkers.

It sounded pretty dumb.

That's fucking hilarious.

>Do you mean that to tell me that possible corruption in the command echelon of first founding chapter should be ignored by the Inquisition and left for the chapter do deal with, but in case of a chapter founded in, say, 36th millenium, it should be investigated?
Don't be naive.
Consider;
1) the ultranarines are among the most influential organisations in the Galaxy, and have a vested interest in not ceding authority to the inquisition
2) they can bring down a fuckton of heat in a thousand indirect ways on anyone they feel like, and plenty more direct ways
3) the inquisition, while theoretically having near supreme authority, is a fractured entity
4) the Inquisitor has bugger all evidence outside a rookie marine, with plenty of evidence countering it, including witness from other astartes.

If he'd sprouted horns and started shooting people, he'd put him down in an instant, and if he'd accumulated evidence over a number of years, he'd take it up.
He's not going to piss off the ultrasnfor something like this, especially when he can get a favour out of not doing so.

And they started the fight with Ventris asking the GK "what are the rules?"

The GK said "such an ultramarine" and punched him in the face.

youtube.com/watch?v=U-5iI1pThN4

So basicaly if you are popular in the Imperium you can do whatever you want. That's how they got Goge Vindare you know.

>the inquisition, while theoretically having near supreme authority, is a fractured entity

So much this. The Ultra have probably dozen of Inquisitors that they have helped in the past on speed dial ready to deal with any uppity inquisitor that decided to start shit with them without any compelling evidence.

You're wrong

First, yes, that's called politics.

Second, the Ultra, like basically all first founding chapter, they are popular because they literally saved the entire Imperium multiple times. If the Ultra were actually corrupted all they would need to to is to stop helping.

Who do you think the Imperial navy is going to believe, a lone inquisitor screaming about corruption, or the Chapter that saved the entire system multiple times?

Um, I dunno, the guy with the red cape.

Literally who?

No, its called Ultramarines always getting a free pass on corruption because they are the Mary Sues of Space Marines. The Ultramarines are heretics for their constant lies and execution of their own citizens. Guilliman is a heretic for trying to recreate his old empire and wrongfully seizing worlds away to do it.

But they don't get punished because they are the Marysuemarines. Well at least TItus got dissected for trying to pretend he wasn't embracing the Ruinous Powers.

3/10 because I don't like some ultramarines fans

wtf I love Grey Knights now

This. Leandros is a top tier shithead, though to be fair he fits right in for an Ultramarine.

Wouldn't mind seeing a sequel to SPHAYCE MAHREENE some day, particularly if we got to cleave through some Tyranids or Tau, and definitely if we got to shit on Leandros' day.

Terrific argument, you sure showed him.

weren't they caught off guard because some asshole didn't report the oncoming ork fleet or something? I seem to recall there being an audio log about it.

>Trusting the (((Inquisition))) even if you've see 20 mins earlier one of them being nothing more than a chaos dead puppet

Yeah, right.

Leandros. Finding out if Titus was a heretic was a job for Tigerius, not the Inquisition. For a codex thumper, Leandros sure did fuck up being a codex thumper.

>Which is why its exactly the Inquisition's job to investigate such things.
True, but Space marines are one of those special cases where the Inquisition will typically let them deal with their own. Mostly because the space marine's status within the imperium is such that if an inquisitor suspects a space marine of heresy and he's wrong, he will wind up being accused of heresy. So better to let them deal with their own issues unless you are DAMN sure there is heresy afoot.

>This is the real answer. Also I really find it hard to believe that they just decomission Titans that big in the first place let alone let them around like that doing fuck all
Pretty sure it was a manufacturing plant, wasn't it?

yes, yes it was.

I remember one of the first logs mention that the local population did not believe their planet would be under attack by xenos. You know how well it ended.

are very good answers.

True, but in this particular situation all the cards are in the Inquisitor's hand.

1) The accusation is made by an Ultramarine who was instrumental in saving the Forge world and knows the accused well as a commanding officer. The Ultramarines reached out to the Inquisition for help - who are they to refuse?
2) The accused is cut off from the bulk of Ultramarine forces. The Inquisitor is the closest, most qualified person to determine if Titus is tainted having faced unfathomable amounts of Chaos corruption. Given the suspicions of the men under his command it is vital that he is tested stringently before he can corrupt others.
3) The Black Templars are there to ensure the dignity of another Space Marine is respected (and to murder the shit out of him if he tries anything).
4) The accused surrendered to the Inquisitor's custody willingly. Sure, he was put into a situation whereby any response other than surrender would have gotten him killed immediately, but that doesn't matter. The Inquisition speaks for the Emperor. It has De Jure power over Space Marines, even if De Facto it doesn't always. Space Marines might prefer to keep it all in-house, but by the letter of Imperial Law they shouldn't. By allowing the Inquisitor to take custody over him the Ultramarines can't intervene without causing incident.
5) Possession is 9/10s of the Lore. In this case, the Inquisitor possesses the Marine, he makes the Lore.

Holding onto Titus might cause him political problems down the road, but equally, being the guy to successfully arrest a captain of a First Founding Chapter shows he has gigantic balls and could well help him with non-Ultramarine factions. He also gets to decide what to do with Titus while he's being tested, which could well mean that the Inquisitor has an Astartes champion for his retinue for a time. He can now also be able to extract favours from the Ultramarines if they want him back.

Inquisitor Lord careers have been made with less.

Relic for not making a sequel.

>grimnar confirmed chaotic
Burn yiffs now

The Inquisitor holds all the cards but if he's not smart he could still cock it all up. And showing how big his balls are could possibly hurt him more than help him since people he might have been able to use his weight to push around will likely try to keep their heads down and stay off his radar even more so than normal. And then there is the fact he's pissed off one of the biggest most influential sects of one of the most powerful factions in the Imperium. So if he doesn't play those cards right he has fucked himself hard.

Plus with the black templars around if the inquisitor does one think out of line then he's going to be in deep shit.

Anyone else find it ironic that Leandros was talking about following the codex blindly while working with Black Templars?

>pic
Somehow those proportions feel off, moreso than normal.

T O A D L I N E

MARIN SMASH

No one desu. It takes balls to step up against your CO and while we played through from Titus' perspective, the others have no fucking idea what happened up there. All they have to consider is that Titus is resistant to the Warp. If a Company Captain is corrupted, that's really deep shit for the Imperium. Heresy can work subtly you know. Contacting the Inquisition was a wise and hard decision.

but matt, that doesn't explain why no one pronounces colonel phonetically

Leandros pls go and stay go

It's My Lord Space Marine to you, Heretic.

Lt. Mira was in the wrong place at the wrong moment and see some daemons .... But thk to the Emperor mister Inquisitor is here to fix that.

Yeah, there's a HUEG hole in the fluff there. They seem to be every other battleground in the game, but they should be Dwarf Karak level of Hard To Crack. The Forge World in First and Only has a working population of 19 BILLION, not even counting techpriests or the defence force, and was overthrown apparently without resistance by a mere single billion Chaos Cultists. In the Skitarii dex it says there are usually a few billion of those too, plus tens of millions of Kataphrons and similar. The Mechanicum navy is hardcore as shit, their Arks Mechanicus pound battle-barges fairly easily, and that's not even counting the fact the place is fortified, has a billion redundancies in case of accident, has Titans, Ordinatii and Omnissiah knows what else locked away and implant electoos into every civilian that should make them into convenient cannon fodder ready to be armed by the massive factories whenever required as the Lacarymaerta hit the control switches. They should take decades to normally conquer by most standards.

Instead, that all gets entirely ignored whenever some random Space Marine needs to show off. In one of the HH books the major militarized Forge World of Mezoa has apparently but a "rag-tag fleet" of converted traders and even after being reinforced by a Salamander ship has a mere TEN THOUSAND defenders. On a planet of more than three times the population of modern Earth, smaller available landmass and supreme Mechanicum authority, only ten thousand troops so they could lose to a single company of AL and 15k Iron Warriors, and then be crippled for decades because one Magos was killed and one Forgefane was shot up by a few dozen infantry.

There's loss of scale, and there's outright narrative stupidity of the highest order.

T.T

Indeed.

Contrary to popular belief, Leandros is as a Chaplain wasn't present for some fucking reason in Titus' piss-tiny command squad. Titus just suddenly develops warp powers halfway into the game allowing him to survive contact with a powerful warp device with zero explanation (and no, he isn't a blank, space marines cannot be blanks). Leandros is completely justified in the fear that Titus may have been corrupted, which is something of IMMEDIATE concern when you just stopped a Chaos invasion from claiming a Forge World responsible for the creation of TITANS.

There can be no loose ends or leniency when dealing with something as important as a titan forge world.

They weren't the only Ultras in the area and the fucking Magpies and Black Templars showed up as well. If this fucking inquisition dick sucking traitor would have gotten on the phone and dialed up the other Ultras in the area he could have had them bring a Chaplain with them.

Implying she isn't in the inquisitor team now.

Except that if a Company Captain is corrupted, who knows who else is. Leandros was right kiddo.

Titus, for not wearing his helmet for all the events.

SMASHED AND SLAMMED NIGGA

This is the only correct answer.

Guilliman hears about the situation and Leandros' buffoonery. What is his reaction?

I felt like there were some fairly heavy-handed hints Titus might be legit corrupted, though nothing specific was stated- The fact that all his finishing moves against Bloodletters were decapitations, for instance, sat with me a bit.

Still, they used the name of an Inquisitor (Referencing Daemons Codex in 5th for my source) who undertook the exploration of a daemon world post-invasion, if he was prepping for it I'd assume he would be looking for warp-resistant individuals. I had always hoped Space Marine 2 would be about that, because it would give a chance to show off Chaos in ways that aren't directly related to existing models.

I really doubt he's gonna go off on Leandros for being extra careful around chaos, especially given the circumstances. The inquisitor, on the other hand, better hope he's treated the captain super fairly, unless he wants a whole crusade shoved up his eye of terror.

>always getting a free pass on corruption because they are the Mary Sues of Space Marines
Piss of fuck nugget. No first or second founding would ever accept shit from the Inquisition. And the Inquisition knows not to fuck with first or second founding since that brings down all the other chapters of that founding down on them. It doesn't matter if its Dark Angels, Ultras, White Scars, Space Wolves, Salamanders, Fists, Blood Angels, or fucking Raven Guard, First Founding don't tolerate shit. And an inquisitor fucking with any one of them is an affront to all of their legitimacy and right to operate. And no inquisitor is going to risk another civil war so he can boldly say he doesn't trust the librarians and chaplains of a chapter.

>be inquisition
>pick on a chapter
>100 of their brother chapters declare war on you

It was bad enough when they started shit with the space wolves, and the space wolves have no other chapters to run to their help, if they started it with the ultramarines or blood angels or anyone else (save maybe the salamanders but everyone likes the salamanders) then they (the specific inquisitorial cabal) would not fare well.

>Khorne blessing
Pretty sure this is just memes from /v/ from when the game came out. That was the joke as to why he heals from.combat executions

>No one is above the law
Actually Space Marines pretty explicitly are, they answer only to the Emperor.

>Erm... did someone call the Inquisition? Because they just arrived
>Leandros here, Yes, it was me, I was playing Brother Nathaniel at cards last night and he beat me four times in a row, the only logical conclusion is that he is in league with the Dark Gods, So I called the Order Hereticus naturally.

If he's 7 feet tall then she must be, what, 6'3?

Fuck space marine lore, do a run around on your C.O. like that in the real military and see how deep the fuck you get pushed into is.

Spoilers: the fuck is quite deep, it goes up to your neck

Don't believe me? Every time someone reports/leaks the US government or military doing something illegal their asses end up in jail. There are whistle blower in Leavenworth right now who were 100% justified but that still doesn't save your ass from that long strong khaki green schlong

Who said he is 7" tall?
Theyre meant to be 2 metres + which is 6"5 +

So he is probably roughly between 6"5 and 7" rather than definitely 7"

Why were the BT escorting the inquisition?
Don't they fucking hate each other in the fluff?

No. The inquisition has made a stink about the BT's numbers but they've worked together on several occasions. The Sororitas as well.

Except if you want to accuse a Company Captain of heresy, you'd better have some damn good evidence.
being able to resist the warp isn't it.

what? no. Ignoring the fact that he's not standing up straight, he's definitely got more than a foot over her.

She's likely around 5'9-5'10

Yeah I guess that makes sense. He's seen Chaos corruption in marines at its very inception and knows how truly insidious it is (especially being an ultramarine he had a lot of dealings with the very first heretics, the Word Bearers). He's probably get a stern talking to for taking the codex at such full-retard face value though, and not involving the proper in-chapter resources made to deal with this very threat.

The inquisitor would be downright fucked though. And probably the BT escort would get a foul verbal pimpslap for being lapdogs, something like "your primarch was a cunt".

The black templars are codex adherent under nufluff anyway enjoy being boring

The Inquisitor probably manipulated the Templars by implying the ravens could do a better job.

I really hope he manages to ork up some engines big enough to get that planet moving. Then he can body slam other planets.

>Guilliman finds out what happened.
>All of it. Mira, the rogue Inquisitor, everything.
>Gives Leandros the "Son, I am disappoint" speech.
>Renovates the Inquisitor's sphincter with his boot.
>Gives the BTs a "the hell, guys" speech that makes them feel just awful about themselves.
>Takes Titus to Tiggy for Soul-Scanning.
>Assuming Tiggy gives the all-clear, sets Titus up as a Liason to the now-Inquisitor Mira.
>As he sends Titus off, slaps him on the back and whispers "don't break her, now..."

>Got to wonder why burgs have such an issue with the british lieutenant.

>I don't think I've ever head people complain about someone pronouncing "colonel" with an r

To be fair, the "kernel" pronunciation is just a corruption of the "colonel" pronunciation, whereas "leftenant" is, while rooted in history, completely counterintuitive compared to its written spelling.

It also sounds dumb

Makes one wonder why there isn't more art of Titus Ultra Smashing that booty for the Emperor

>Titus goes to the Lord General for the Cadians
>Tells them he's taking Mira back to Ultramar

What are you going to do? Tell him no?