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>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet. edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity. manabasecrafter.com/
>Thread Question: How many board wipes do you run? MLD? What influences this decision? If you don't find MLD acceptable, where do you draw the line on what counts? Are any of Blood Moon, Wake of Destruction, and/or Rain of Salt MLD? How about Strip Mine with Crucible in the deck?
>How many board wipes do you run? MLD? What influences this decision? >If you don't find MLD acceptable, where do you draw the line on what counts? Are any of Blood Moon, Wake of Destruction, and/or Rain of Salt MLD? How about Strip Mine with Crucible in the deck? depends on the deck but between 1-4 with the notable exception of my casual esper control deck that runs 6 >mld In a deck that wants MLD I tend to run Armageddon, ravages, hokori and winter orb as an absolute minimum
Jack White
>Thread Question Ruination is normally enough for me because I always play a lot of basics and it always reaps the most salt from the table.
Thomas Cruz
I tend to avoid MLD because I play with a wide range of players, and I don't want to completely scare off the newer/more casual guys. However, Blood Moon/Back to Basics is completely fair game because it hurts the players with expensive decks much more than the casual guys running mostly basics.
Isaac Diaz
>How many board wipes do you run? Depends, removal heavy lists that either don't care if i get my board destroyed or i actively try to put my opponent's dudes into their graveyard usually include at least 5 more often than not 6-7 if you include stuff like Massacre Wurm, Vandalblast or Cyclonic Rift in the board wipe category In normal lists or the ones that play a lot of creatures i run no more than 4 and usually i settle for 3 >MLD? No >Are any of Blood Moon, Wake of Destruction, and/or Rain of Salt MLD? Blood Moon doesn't destroy anything so doesn't qualify for the "D" in MLD Wake of Destruction is definetely Mass Destruction, so yes it's MLD Rain of Salt and other targeted land removal is fine since it doesn't qualify for the "M" in MLD
Nathaniel Edwards
>How many board wipes do you run?
Bitch I am the board wipe
Joseph Scott
>Thread question I try to have 2 wipes in every deck at least. My queen marchesa has 6.5 crackling doom is my half wipe creature wipes and a vandalblast. I don't run MLD because when I had just built my first commander deckever on my own I rushed to the shop to try it out and only one guy would help me playtest. We played 2 or 3 games with different commanders and it was all cool until he played Mina and Denn MLD Ramp. It took for ever. He kept getting to six lands and destroying all the lands but had no way to win but had enough targeted LD to keep me from playing. It was extremely boring and disheartening. I get that MLD is an important hard-control option and the only way certain decks become playable but gadamn is it shitty if you can't win in the next few turns and nuked the board for lulz. I think i'd only pack mld if I ran AngryOmnath or Tajic to help cement a combat win.
>From last Thread How do you build a Ludevic deck that isn't vorthos tribal or a partner deck? I think it'd be really funny to show with a commonly derided Commander and win a game or two. If there are playable decks for a lot of the god awful commanders from legends there must be some way to make Ludevic work. Don't tell me just play a different commander. That is a waste of a post.
Michael Stewart
>tfw magi weren't legendary
Jordan Young
How ineffective is Counterbalance + Top in EDH's general meta?
Jose Rogers
>MaRo has advocated a "New Magic" nonrotating format.
Is it Pauper's time to shine?
Ryan Kelly
Not that useful, the cmc of things played in EDH varies too much to reliably counter stuff unlike in Legacy
Connor Morgan
>Thread Question 3-5 wipes, but only as a backup plan. For MLD, I play on an almost newbie meta, trying to teach my friends so I don't deal much with land destruction. Once any of them starts using it and nobody else bitches, I'll do it. Stuff like Strip Mine is ok for the whole group, though.
William Barnes
I have an MLD deck dedicated to it Numot kills lands it's just fast mana and land destroying shenanigans. I even play stuff like crack the earth for full commitment. It's my secret weapon against fast mana blue as it packs a good artifact hate package. I just voltron numot and hard control the board.
I believe MLD and regular LD is as valid as mono you decks and stax or tax decks. that said I never pull it out in casual good times play
Camden Harris
>How many board wipes do you run? MLD? What influences this decision?
Board wipes? One or two per deck, as appropriate to the colors. MLD? None. I prefer spot land removal. Goblin Ruinblaster has brought me more value and salt than most spells I cast.
Lucas Parker
I run about 3-6 board wipes and a few sac effects in my decks. I am fine with MLD but i do nit run it. As far as crucible+strip mine i would rather not get hosed by two super expensive cards
Jaxson Thomas
>How many board wipes do you run? MLD? What influences this decision? 6 wipes, MLD is built into a couple. Slobad makes half my shit indestructible so I can rebuild quickly
First deck I ever built was Godo and I had a huge amount of MLD.
Carson Roberts
MLD hurting feelings is why Boros is considered a bad color in Commander. I play Weenies with MLD. When everyone has no lands, suddenly those 2/2 First Strike are kinda Scary.
Justin Martin
I've ran Boom//Bust, Armageddon, and Ravages of War in my Boros deck. My playgroup didn't have a problem with it, but it stale for me pretty quick. I've since removed it for other toys. I kept Strip Mine + Crucible of Worlds in their because Fuck Green.
Jose Jackson
Boros doesn't do MLD better than other color combos though
You might get a higher number of total MLD spells, but that's not what makes a good MLD deck. The other colors have better tutors and card draw to rebuild and capitalize off the MLD. You only need either white or red to have plenty of land destruction I think
Austin Nguyen
MLD are simply UnFun and usually just set the game back on square one
Boros is "bad" because it doesnt have much decent card advantage or ramp.but its still not horrible
That being said you can do some degenerate things with Sunforger.
Elijah Williams
>No Feather commander >No Greht commander >No Tocasia commander >No Gix commander >No Xantcha commander >Yawgmoth and Urza never ever ever Why do they keep printing all the minor characters except the ones I want to see?
Andrew Price
>Yawgmoth >Urza >minor
Fuck you on about, mate.
Justin Kelly
>As far as crucible+strip mine i would rather not get hosed by two super expensive cards >strip mine >expensive It's like 10 bucks, maybe 15 if you insist on NM. Crucible hurts but Ramunap Excavator is 5.
Gavin Price
I was summing up the rest of them since Wizards has in the past stated they'd never print an Urza card They also said they'd never print Planeswalkers, so shit may change with the times. and the likelihood of Yawgmoth getting in is about as great as my chances of winning the world tour
Evan Young
>inb4 "Yawgmoth, Thran Healer" new Orzhov commander I doubt they'll ever print him as Lord of the Wastes but enough vorthos tears could easily get us a mortal version. If we're all good he might even be on par with Feldon (If we're naughty, though, he'll be Ludevic 2.0)
Hudson Cruz
The Ineffable would be a modern day Phage. Not Emrakul tier but a threat you could not leave on the board regardless.
Lincoln Price
i would be way down for a pre-phyrexia yawgmoth card
teferi make it happen
Nicholas Peterson
oh i was confusing it with wasteland
Brandon Foster
Thinking of building my sister an Ishkanah Grafwidow deck for Halloween as its their favorite holiday Any cool tech for it?
Adam James
>their A noose.
Jace Reyes
Will this ever be less than six bucks or will it rise?
Owen White
Post deck
Elijah Russell
it will rise its just a matter of time only question is if it will go down in value before then
William Fisher
They gave it a name that will make it hard to reprint outside of Masters or Precons, and Crucible has shown it's a very powerful effect. If you're lucky, you might see them $5 at their lowest, which is barely saving any money. Get them while they're cheap, it's relatively safe.
Ayden Peterson
Alright, what Zedruu-core cards am I missing so far? Spicy tech?
I expect it to rise. It's literally Magus of the Crucible and Magus of the Moon has surpassed Blood Moon in price (before MM I think Blood Moon had a slight edge, but Magus had still risen to meet it)
Hunter Cooper
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Sebastian Howard
That's not quite as comparable. Moon's been printed 6 times and Magus only the once. If they reprint Magus, he'd probably fall to Moon's current price easily.
Jason Reyes
OP you moronic nincompoop reject you forgot the ALL IMPORTANT DISCORD LINK NEVER DO THAT AGAIN
So the chubby girl meme "IT IS/HAS A CAT!" is now gone to magic. I blame that dudeface from loadingreadyrun.
Jace Thompson
What is a commander that doesn't really do that well that you still play for whatever reason?
John Hughes
>now
Juan Foster
I like the early game pump to get damage on turn 2
Mason Morgan
>MLD is UnFun >Boros is bad because it doesnt have ramp
hmmmmmmmmm
Christopher Jones
my Nekusar deck is more zombie tribal amd isn't built entirely around his ability but I have won occasionally with him when im able to attach glistening oil or phyrexian armor to him. Otherwise i typically win with just the sheer amount of zombies that work tofether and tokens i spawn. pretty fun stuff because no one expects grixis to have almost the same amount of +1/+1 counter ramp and tokens spawning as GW or GU.
Brody Rivera
>I blame that dudeface from loadingreadyrun. thats Kaitlyn and shes a girl a very very bad actor but a girl none the less
Ryan Lee
>try to build Vish Kal >turns into a discard/mill myself for cheesy rezzes and quick wins My playgroup is nearly on the verge of banning Divinity of Pride and Ashen Rider
Jayden Nguyen
>Divinity of Pride still isn't legendary J U S T
Jaxon Brooks
Demigod of Revenge would've lived a pretty hard life if his cycle was Legendary.
Cameron Collins
>a vanilla creature with lifeline isnt legendary oh no whatever should I do?
Samuel Martinez
Yeah, but I doubt he'd fall much below all the same, and he started at like 5 bucks too.
Barring a reprint of either to tank price, Ramunap will slowly (and I do mean slowly) rise to approach the price of proper Crucible.
Eli Flores
Give me your most "I hate my friends" decklist
Hudson Long
Son, would I call her "dudeface", if I thought she was a man?
Lincoln Green
Here is a tentative list for an Alesha deck made from mashing together bits from a couple other decklists. It's mostly pretty budget for now, I'm not generally planning to spend more than 10 dollars on a single card until I really like the feeling of it. I think I'm at 98 cards and a lot of it is up for cutting so I'm up for suggestions
>Son, would I call her "dudeface", if I thought she was a man? yes thats exactly when you would call someone dudeface but clearly you were mistaken old man, because its her who pushes the cat cancer the hardest.
Matthew Lewis
Boy, there's no need to talk disrespectfully a fellow simply because they skimmed through your post a bit too fast.
Nathan Bennett
I don't have the list on me but you can have my favorite "I hate my Friends" commander
Brayden Thomas
Why does everyone in these threads always have the most Craw Wurm of Craw Wurm metas?
Gavin Diaz
>I hate my Friends le ebin asshole strikes again! XDDDDD
Gavin Ross
are you from Elbonia or something? you canll people dudeface when they are not a dude otherwise it's redundant
yeah, this is 4chin, safe bet is that 'fellow' was/is a retarded autist faggot.
Alexander Cook
>My playgroup is nearly on the verge of banning Divinity of Pride
that's pathetic
Thomas Howard
>you canll people dudeface when they are not a dude otherwise it's redundant no that would just be accurate, not redundant. dudeface/dudebro is pretty much exclusively a thing you call males
Nicholas Fisher
nobody calls anybody dudeface, so whatever weird rules that govern when you should and should not say it are known to you, and you alone. It's not that surprising that someone might not understand exactly what you mean when you say it, not everybody is in on your inside jokes
Evan Kelly
I'm trying to sell about 30 of these guys and the matching mountains. How do I move them with reasonable speed (like before the end of September)? I just need the dosh.
Gavin Murphy
I really want Feather as a card. I would also like to know what happened to her, other than being kicked out by Aurelia.
Adam Butler
You know I had my dobuts but honestly HOU is a preety fucking good commander set.
The 3 gods, Neheb, Cats, Horses, Minotaurs and Zombies support, a bunch of useful rares like Nimble Obstructionist, the Mirror, or Crucible snek, new wraths, Razaketh and Big Daddy Bolas.
Also a bunch of spicy techs like pic related. This is fucking great on Meren, for example.
Connor Myers
Hope for Mardu Angels as one of the c17 tribes.
Justin Morales
I've done it, Mannichi is now viable.
Thomas Hughes
dear lord i accidentally read part of the latest magic story. people read this shit? holy fuck
Asher Scott
>ordering cards from magic card market >"played" condition cards range from literally perfectly fine with maybe a tiny bit of white scratching near the edges to being covered with dogshit everywhere >sellers just give :^) responses if you point out that this is pushing about as close to being damaged as humanly possible >can't be bothered to fuck them over because the orders are usually otherwise fine
lol
Thomas Taylor
half the definitions on urbandictionary is 'random person' half are 'female with manly features'. I think we can split the difference.
it's not inside joke, it's a colloquialism. People not using it in your mother's basement it doesn't make it an inside joke.
Grayson Ross
Ebay but it may be hard to find someone since they're so expensive. Search past ebay sales and compare how they sell and then determine if you want to do a big lot with them all together or if you want to split them all out and list individually.
Andrew Taylor
Wizards asked on polls what were the most liked tribes, expecting answers like Merfolks on Wizards
The poll showed those were average, and that the most liked were Cats and Squirrels.
Squirrels are a meme, but Cats have always had cool stuff like pic related(no furry)
Benjamin Carter
>have always had >posts a very recent card
Thomas Wood
The new gods and Neheb 2.0 are all really unique commanders. I've been having a lot of fun trying to out Neheb especially since he lets you play janky burn in EDH.
Luis Kelly
pic related, 2 played condition cards from 2 different sellers. the guy gave me a refund on the rune-scarred demon but still lmao at wasting peoples times and selling that thing at played
Jace Jenkins
How about this (some furry)?
Elijah Carter
Mld is completely fine as long as it benefits the caster, if you are doing it "for teh lulz xD" though, kys.
I run a few in Jhoira, because it's Jhoira. No purpose in my other decks.
Brody Ortiz
dude that demon almost looks cooler in that condition
Jeremiah Allen
No, it doesn't.
Cameron Garcia
Sell them in 6 blocks of 5.
Ian Sanchez
i honestly wouldn't mind it that much, but the thing is basically falling apart, the foil plastic on the sides is peeling off and shit. i'm more annoyed that people try to pass this shit off as played.
i also just ordered a white-bordered sacrifice that turned out to have a ton of brown residue on the sides and it just looks disgusting
i gotta start ordering stuff at higher conditions because of these fucking memers
Isaac Wood
I've been having a rough time with getting off-centered cards. They'll be NM otherwise and look fine in a black sleeve, but it still bothers me.
Tyler Torres
>ordering stuff at higher conditions no man join me in "damaging out" your decks significantly easier than foiling them and it takes a lot longer so it actually feels like you accomplished something
Ayden James
What are some good ways to get non-creature spells out of your graveyard, either to your hand or at least library. Can't be green.
Mason Collins
Mystic retrieval is probably my favorite one. Call to mind as well.
Justin Nguyen
Any specific type? Inst/sorcs? Artifacts?
Ayden Garcia
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James Gutierrez
>to your hand archeomancer archivist ill-gotten gains >library eldrazi titans most blue wheels (days undoing) elixir of immortality
Brayden Gonzalez
anarchist
Benjamin Green
>archivist >anarchist this thats what i meant
Mason Gonzalez
When I first got into MtG cats were somehow my favorite despite me never liking them in any other media. Jareth is pretty badass too.
Evan Murphy
AWWW DUDE THAT TOTALLY GOES INTO MY CAT DRAGON DECK thanks!
Austin Gomez
I'm 90% sure she's imprisoned by the Boros. During return to ravnica there was a short story where Grenko was doing a job for the Dimir boss by stealing something from the Boros and along his way he comes across an angel in a cage that is heavily implied to be her.
Tyler Campbell
its probably getting reprinted in Arabho as most of the cats posted here today are going to be. Better pick up your HOU/AKH cat tribal cards
Brandon Watson
Wizards needs to stop popularizing my tech. I get too much of a tingle each time people have to read my cards multiple times because they don't have a Magic encylopedia in their head like I do.
Bentley Rivera
>thread question every white deck that isn't über aggro should play wrath and doj, and usually rout i think MLD is fine if you actually win with it unlike most people i've met who play it. nobody has fun when someone blows up all the lands and isn't even ahead enough on board to take advantage of it.
Connor Wood
can't go wrong with codex shredder
Austin Reyes
What colors are we talking here?
Bentley White
I'm real disappointed Oketra doesn't produce 2/2 Cats. She has no actual place being in a Cat deck, despite being Top Cat.