/STG/ - Star Trek General

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Previous thread: A thread for discussing the Star Trek franchise and its various tabletop iterations.

Possible topics include Star Trek Adventures - the new rpg being produced by Modiphius - and WizKids’ Star Trek: Attack Wing miniatures game, as well as the previous rpgs produced by FASA, Last Unicorn Games and Decipher, the Starfleet Battles Universe, and Star Trek in general.


Game Resources

Star Trek Adventures, Modiphius’ 2d20 RPG
-Official Modiphius Page
>modiphius.com/star-trek.html
Playtest Materials (via Biff Tannen)
>mediafire.com/folder/36m6c22co6y5m/Modiphius Star Trek Adventures
Reverse Engineered Character Creation.
>docs.google.com/document/d/1g2ofDX0-7tgHojjk7sKcp7uVFSK3M52eVP45gKNJhgY/edit?usp=sharing
Core Rulebook
>IN NEED OF NEW LINKS

Older Licensed RPGs (FASA, Last Unicorn Games and Decipher)
>pastebin.com/ndCz650p

Other (Unlicensed) RPGS (Far Trek + Lasers and Feelings)
>pastebin.com/uzW5tPwS

WizKids’ Star Trek: Attack Wing Miniatures Game
-Official WizKids Page (Rules and Player Resources)
>wizkids.com/attackwing/star-trek-attack-wing/

GF9games Star Trek: Ascendancy Board Game
-Official Page
>startrek.gf9games.com/

Lore Resources

Memory Alpha - Canon wiki
>en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Portal:Main

Memory Beta - Noncanon wiki for licensed Star Trek works
>memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Fan Sites - Analysis of episodes, information on ships, technobabble and more
>pastebin.com/mxLWAPXF

Star Trek Maps - Based on the Star Trek Star Charts, updated and corrected
>startrekmap.com/index.html

/stg/ Homebrew Content
>pastebin.com/H1FL1UyP

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>Edition
There we go, much prettier than all these steel donuts being thrown around. Comfier, too.

I dunno. The Oberth and Daedalus classes are really comfy feeling. That said, the Nebula class is best class.

aeroshuttle is happy about the new arriving thread.

Anons, you've got the most RIGHTEOUS OF TASKS. I've started work a Star Trek Adventures game, where the players are going to be assigned to the command staff of a Starbase in the Dominion War, on the opposite side of the Quadrant where all the misfits are sent to keep them out of the way of the war effort, for one reason or another. To that end, I need some weird (yet plausible) captains. I'm already planning on using the ancient Vulcan, who's just wanting to ride out his hitch here then go back to exploring with his Connie, but I need more.

Hard Mode: No Barclays.

An extremely paranoid Andorian convinced that anyone could be a shapeshifter, rotated out of the War effort because he vocalised fear about the Federation losing to the Dominion.

A Changeling that has taken over a smallish vessel and is honestly just fucking with the Feddies on this side of the galaxy. Not directly harmful, but causes plenty of problems in the running of the station and the safety of the space around it.

A Tellarite that has become crippled with indecision. Likes to sit in his office all day listening to klingon opera at full blast, while his Number One actually runs the ship.

An overly warm and genial Denobulan that keeps inviting people out to dinner aboard her ship, staffed entirely by her extended family.

Captain Nephew-Of-The-Admiral. Generally an okay guy, but considers himself a higher class and likes to throw his weight around. Largely untested in combat, so he’s kicked out to the curb.

An El Aurian that seems to seek out problems just so he can try and solve them. He has a nasty habit of causing significant collateral damage with his "unique solutions".

All I can come up with is "obvious rip-offs of WWF heels/babyfaces", like a Vulcan whose Pon Farr has tuned him into the perfection of Destrucity.

A Bolian woman whose wild parties are the kind that songs like We're Banned From Argo were written about them as factual accounts.

Otherwise an excellent commander and scientist, highly disciplined during all times other than shore leave where things just get a bit explosive. Literally, at times.

Assigned to a small ship to keep possible trouble to a minimum.

The single Federation ship Sigma Iotia II has. An antique Miranda staffed by 1920 mafiosos, who are hardcore emulating Kirk's enterprise down to the outfits, with extensive use of out dated tech.

Captain suspected to have ties to the Maquis and so was assigned far away with the ranking Admiral keeping an eye on him. Whether he does or not is up to you.

War veteran possibly suffering from PTSD, rotated off the front because he was flagged for psychological trauma. Ideally would be taken of duty for counseling, but Starfleet needs all the warm bodies it can find so they're hoping taking him away from the war zone is good enough to let his ship's counselor handle things. (spoiler: it isn't)

Captain who doesn't seem cut out for front-line war duty, but it's a charade because he's actually an intelligence operative keeping the Klingons and Romulans from making a mess of the Federation's backyard during the war.

Grizzled veteran with diplomatic experience, assigned away from the front because keeping things stable in the homefront is more important to the Federation than dying in the 4318th Battle of Gamma Whereverthefuck. Kinda like what the Ent-E was up to during the war, but with less facestretching aliens.

A cargo captain that is almost certainly a spook. She knows way too much about sensitive operations in the area and is willing to trade non-Starfleet info for "little favours".

The question is which government and organisation she's actually working for and whether she's working for or against the crew.

Cpt. Roberts.

Human. Veteran of the "Spoonhead" War among other thing she would like to forget.

Not actually an officer of Star Fleet, more of a private contract. Essentially her does odd jobs for local star bases hired by the local command directly on the basis that he has his own ship.

Ship is a Daedalus(probably the last one still in "working" condition )named The Barge. It has had considerable repair work done. Has a moonshine still on board somewhere of which he drinks considerable.

Crew is likewise of a similar no questions answered, don't look too close variety. Chief engineer is a Nausicaan who did time in a UFP prison for stabbing a Star Fleet boy/cadet right through the rib cage. Was freaked right the fuck out when Star Fleet looked down at the half a foot of serrated steel jutting out of his chest and started laughing. Fucking humans, man, they're all fucking insane.

Cpt. Roberts has seen some shit and only hires those to The Barge who need to be "baptized in the Styx". Cpt. Roberts is fucking insane and all the crew knows it but they will follow him because Cpt. Roberts hires only the mad and the damned. He is the only Captain they could follow, the only captain that could lash them together into a functioning whole.

Basically just "The Irresponsible Space Captain Tyler". Either the greatest military genius or the the luckiest idiot the fleet has. Might be both. Crew is insane and kooky but somehow manage to get by.

Seriously, just watch the show, it's great.

Alternate universe duplicate acting as a replacement of a ship's original captain. Keeps getting procedures slightly wrong because they did things differently over there, but only slightly.

No-one knows they're actually a duplicate except the captain's partner (a non-star fleet specialist), who likes them slightly more than the original so won't tell.

I just imagine the aeroshuttle unleashing photon torpedoes on an unsuspecting adversary with that dumb smile on its face.

Eat multi-megaton explosives new-friends!

Captain Sirius Lee Notaugmentedugaiz. One of Soong's brood from ENT waken from cold sleep. He's significantly less jerky than Khan was due to having served with the cranky Vulcan for fifty years and receiving a few beatings when he got uppity as an ensign.

Not the guy who originally asked but that was a lot more ideas than I expected... is /stg/ feeling unusually creative today?

It's easy to come up with generic one-sentence ideas. Although I would say I could probably come up with more if you mentioned exactly where this starbase was supposed to be instead of "on the other side of the quadrant"

>/stg/ can come up with more good ideas in a few hours than actual Trek writers have in the last twenty years

/stg/ isn't constrained to the set of ideas that intersects things publishers will approve and trekkies will pay money for.

What would exactly happen if a changeling had become infected with borg nanoprobes?

Changeling gets eaten. The nanoprobes aren't them, so they can't be shifted away. At best the changeling shifts into pure water and dives through a reverse osmosis filter.

On one hand, the Borg couldn't infect Species 8472, and they were definitely solid creatures with a concrete biology. On the other hand, Changelings were vulnerable to Section 31's morphogenic virus. So it depends on whatever the writers feel like.

Well with luck the changeling would figure out what was going on and turn into flame or some other difficult to assimilate form.

The plausible part is the difficult bit. Most ideas I had would just immediately get a captain jailed or demoted and transferred as a consequence of them fucking up, because the obvious ways to make a fuck up captain are generally the ones we see them getting chased down for as villains.
I mean if you're a captain you're probably damn good at something, and the responsibility involved is huge. It's very hard to fail upwards in star fleet to the point that you'd be in charge of anything important, because of all that idealised meritocracy stuff they have going on.

I kinda doubt that borg nanoprobes can bond to changeling whatever the fuck they're made of, not without locking them into a specific form first.

There is that, the lack of risk-taking is pretty obnoxious. To the point that it seems like good ideas of any kind would be risk taking, since it's pretty much just terrible fan-service bulking out everything.

A weird borderline-unethical medical Doctor with a fetish for reverse engineering Borg biotech.

A hipster Engineer who hates any new tech older than the Reliant class ships.

A Chad Red Shirt who slept with the wrong Admiral's daughter.

A rookie shuttle pilot on his first assignment.

A Christmas cake Andorian Science Officer with the hots for the new Captain.

The dour by the book Federation Diplomat nominally in charge of the civillian side of the station.

Just grab Roger Wilco from Space Quest V (or any of the SQ series). Job done.

>A Christmas cake Andorian Science Officer with the hots for the new Captain.
I didn't know I wanted this until now.

inb4 Andorian futas and yule log jokes

>objectively a mindreading genius
>not one person asks him for help with their personal problems

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>that
And to think we give the Oberth a hard time for having part of the main deck between the nacelles, nevermind ALL HABITATION AND THE BRIDGE

>not using 24th century materials technology to block out the subspace radiation
>not using a subspace modulator in battle to phase shift your escort so it can tank damage better
ISHYGDDT

>Chief engineer is a Nausicaan who did time in a UFP prison for stabbing a Star Fleet boy/cadet right through the rib cage. Was freaked right the fuck out when Star Fleet looked down at the half a foot of serrated steel jutting out of his chest and started laughing. Fucking humans, man, they're all fucking insane.

Wait a moment. Is this the fucker that stabbed a young Picard?

Also raises a potentially interesting point.

What does Star Fleet do with it's old junk ships?

Can private individuals get hold of them to repair as a sort of pet project?

Because one plot for Trek could be a bunch of pissed off cargo haulers and retired Star Fleet officers and shit getting together, arming their ships with weapons off of the black market, forming an armada and going to nuke the Nausicaan homeworld and dockyards to the stone age.

This.

A bubbling starfleet idiot captain assigned to a derelict Miranda ship after he stumbled coincidentally into command. That Miranda is a dropping ground for people too quirky for starfleet. The goofball wasn't expected to actually do anything.

Instead, he manages to win several engagements against great odds. No one, not even his own crew, can tell if it is by pure luck or if he is just pretending to be dumb.

>That Miranda is a dropping ground for people too quirky for Starfleet

That was the basic premise of the Ark Royal before it devolved into a snowflake extravaganza.

Is there any particular Fleet in STO that anyone would recommend above any others?

>A Changeling that has taken over a smallish vessel and is honestly just fucking with the Feddies on this side of the galaxy. Not directly harmful, but causes plenty of problems in the running of the station and the safety of the space around it.
Why can't he be the vessel? They do seem to be able to change mass at will.

>her extended family.
>denobulan
>three spouses each, whose spouses have two other spouses who aren't your spouses (ie no sextets)
So all of Denobula?

>Section 31's morphogenic virus
The morphogenic field of an organism is an outdated concept which held that organisms had "ideal" which the aspired to and became closer to over generations. Basically, Platonic idealism as applied to evolution.
Given that in ST evolution actually does seem to work "towards:" things, I'd be willing to bet that the morphogenic virus actually works on the morphogenic field, and Section 31 managed to make something which infects the higher realms of pure form and idea.

They feel intimidated by his position of power, and his pointy ears.

The /v/ fleet, Vidya Trek is handy. There's no restrictions on resources and projects for fleet credits are frequent. And there's no requirement to engage with fleet activities or anything.

...or they're simply referring to actual morphogenesis, and since the Founders are shapeshifters its reasonable to assume they have some kind of biological matrix governing how their "body" changes shape by use of morphogens, which is what the virus targets. I mean I know Star Trek has had more than its share of retarded pseudo-science, but morphogenesis is an actual thing, and it seems strange that they'd try to refer to a theory that had been debunked decades before the original series, let alone DS9.

so racists all along, merely pretending to have advanced beyond it. sad.

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> pretending to have advanced beyond it
This is TOS, not TNG.

Bear in mind that the Humans had just discovered that their most hated vicious enemy was actually just an offshoot of the Vulcan race. I'd be a bit cagey around them too.

Thank you, I certainly thought it was a good idea.

I'm not too fond of the refit escort hull myself but you have to admit it has a certain style.

>What does Star Fleet do with it's old junk ships?
Put them in surplus depots apparently.

>Can private individuals get hold of them to repair as a sort of pet project?
Probably not or the Maquis would have been having a field day.

>Probably not or the Maquis would have been having a field day.
Considering the same model was used for both Maquis raiders and Starfleet Peregrine fighters, I think it's implied that's exactly what's happening. Just that the Maquis need to smuggle in their own weapons systems because Starfleet strips the ships of anything important before selling the rest.

A 300m starship would certainly be a lot harder to smuggle out of a depot than a small civilian courier.

Who needs to smuggle anything when you can just go through a Ferengi middleman?

I'm now wanting to write a story that is basically this, Space Captain Tyler meets Star Trek
>Bumbling idiot/military genius captain
>By the books and wound up second in command
>By the books but more relaxed third in command woman
>Sexy communications officer who joined Starfleet to give her some more focus
>Highly religious but laid back helmsman
>Sexy nurse who is actually an android spy but who comes to actually believe in the ship and her captain
>Constantly drunk and looks far older than he is doctor
>Brash and harsh marines who, later on, are found to have some of the biggest hearts
>Young and handsome as well as highly misogynistic (due to being gynophobic) pilot of one of the fighters on board who comes out of shell and comes to really appreciate women after finally getting laid
>Enemies range from absolutely cruel war criminals to honorable opponents who all fail to see the captain as he truly is, a bumbling idiot/military genius and whose leader ends up falling for him as well since she is young and idealistic
>A Starfleet admiralty who despise the captain since they think he is an idiot and constantly try to undermine/kill him with suicide assignments or worse. Come to end up relying on him way too much for their liking.
Wouldn't do a Miranda class, maybe a busted up Constellation Class or something along those lines.

>A Christmas cake Andorian Science Officer

I'm not sure I get this term, all I can think of is icing-coated, fruity and full of booze, is that accurate?

Bones was clearly the one to go to for personal problems. Spock was just there to filter crew things out because Kirk didn't give a shit.

Also Spock was a better captain than Kirk.

Christmas cake means a woman who is over 25 in Japan. It their culture not being married and trying to have a kid by then is dishonorable or some shit. The idea behind the name means "too old" since no one wants old and out of season sweets.

You'd be better off buying the weapons from one of Romulus/Cardassia/Ferenginar's approved buying list and strapping em on to a triangle-class freighter/cruiser. That's what everybody else does. Hell thats what the entire Bajoran fleet is.

You're kind of close, 'Christmas Cake' is a Japanese term for women over the ripe old age of 25, who are now considered past their prime, much like a Christmas cake is now good after Dec. 25th.

Anyway, who here is a fan of alternate refits/competing design projects coexisting? I have some ideas for a campaign along the lines of 'Group is the test crew for an alternate refit of the Constitution, and their (ultimately futile) attempt to one-up the box nacelles design for the full Starfleet rollout, using pic related.

Thanks to everyone who replied, I've got a ton of characters now, though most of these will be sort of bit players rather than fully fledged plots.

What do you guys think Veeky Forums would look like in the star trek universe. Holy shit the bants would be epic.

Retired EMH Mark 2's would be assigned as moderators.

Kek. Pol would be epic though

That's awful.

Especially since Christmas cake lasts for ages because of the high alcohol content. At least the way I/my family makes it...

I quite like competing design projects. Particularly the SFM did them nicely, such as the more 'conventional' yet not ship line that was built as a competitor to the Constitution but mostly ended up filling the gap because of project delays for the Constitution being too bleeding-edge. It's nice to see design compromises in ships, makes them more believable rather than all the can do everything super vessels. Also ship designs that are sort of failures but still went into service any way.

>Also ship designs that are sort of failures but still went into service any way.
Like the "we need three chief engineers and the ship still explodes at least twice a season but we're keeping it going anyway because sunk cost fallacy" Galaxy-class.

Like the curry class?

Oh come on...

>picard stabber
noice

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Veeky Forums would be interesting. I mean with super-fast intercontinental travel and a lot of free time, it's possible that groups could actually meet up, and the board would probably be one of the busiest given the resurgence of pastimes that require thinking, creativity and other people.

Sort of, more the "it took 20 odd years to get into service because we kept trying to make it do everything the best we can but that had problems and then it turned out to be not that great an idea anyway even though we actually succeeded in doing all that".

If that thing actually had a proper cargo pod instead of just a flipped Excelsior hull I would like it. Unused kitbash from DS9 related. But holy crap were DS9's kitbashed ships so much worse than the TNG ones.

But where is Spacu Dandy-san?

Telepaths are objectively bad counselors. You end up far more guarded and defensive around someone like that, since you feel more vulnerable around someone who could just open up all your problems whether you like it or not. Which is why Troi was a failure as both a Betazoid and a counselor. And anything, really.

did you mean: the Ark Royal before the autism set in?

I honestly hate saying this but I don't know the Ark Royal reference. Help me on this one?

Troi really wasn't qualified for much of anything. She got her position because her mother was a big time Federation Ambassador and her father was Starfleet. Straight up nepotism.

TOS swap with Bebop, OldBSG swap with TAS, Futurama swap with RD, and I'll accept.

It was a potentially fun little side setting to Star Trek based on a big Excalibur class Star Fleet ship that the brass used as a holding box for mavericks and oddballs.

Barclay was Chief Engineer.

Space Suit Dave was innatubes.

Then someone had to put in their 300 year old but only look 18 katana wielding super sword skilled Japanese sisters and it went downhill from there. There is a 1d4chan page.

Thanks. Also, Reg being chief engineer? Fuck yeah! I would have him help me with all my holodeck wants/needs.

Spock had enough problems of his own - daddy issues, bullied for being mixed-race (literally). Plus, it's not like the guy was approachable...
/sp/ would be ruined with douchey Parrises Squares generals

>Then someone had to put in their 300 year old but only look 18 katana wielding super sword skilled Japanese sisters and it went downhill from there.
Seriously it wasn't even the best anime to cross over with Trek. That would have been Evangelion. I imagine Q looking at Rei (or to a lesser extent the other pilots) and running away screaming.

/asp/ would have Dabo, Chula, 3D chess and more.

Is Tongo a sport or a traditional game?

Yes

Traditional game when played with Ferengi. Contact sport when played with Klingons.

>"PLAY DOM-JOT, HYU-MON"
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Pakledposting on Veeky Forums.
>we need things to make us go

I would just imagine people shitposting on pol with We wuz prophets n'shieet with pictures of bajorans.

AYO HOL' UP
>*bombs temple*
YOU IS SAYIN
>*sabotages mines*
THAT WE
>*attacks labor camp*
WUZ
>*opens the fire caves*
PROPHETS
>*joins the Maquis*
N SHIET?

"How could there be war crimes, when there wasn't any war."

Kek. But are the Bajorans supposed to be space jews rather than sterotypical space blacks?

youtube.com/watch?v=tw7_RqRn910
If she isn't named the "Plutonium Nyborg," I will be sorely disappointed...

Space Balkans inhabitants more than anything else.

Probably one of the very best episodes of any series.

>A bunch of people LARPING as Terra Prime or the Terran Empire
>Cardassians posting about being culturally enriched by the Dominion
>Bajorans talking about how they have a deep and rich history
>Australians still routinely banned for shitposting
>conspiracy theories about the illuminati trying to stop first contact by destroying the Bozeman launch site

Well it wouldn't be Veeky Forums, for starters. Japan is now part of the Federation monoculture so we'd need to fetishise the art of another species. I'm guessing Klingons. Meaning Dax is a total weeb. The site would be called 4be'Hom and the Duras sisters would be my be'nala.

Guess so m8.
No, it would be Lunar shitposters, and maybe there are constant threads about why future pol does not like interspecies relationships.

Anyways, thank you for the ideas I plan on making this a thread sometime in the future.

The bigger issue with the Oberth is that the lower and upper parts of the hull are both apparently habitable, but aren't connected in any way other than the nacelle struts (which seem to thin to fit a turbolift in there).

The way those struts are mounted though, they're not really there to support the nacelles, which are on top of the flat area the saucer is on top of.

Still awkward though with the lift travelling diagonally.

To be fair, with artificial gravity the lift can travel whatever way it wants.