most of them are 10. something might be 8 or 7, or even 12. if you think you've got a score at 14, you're either a prodigy or delusional. 18 is the absolute human maximum. 25 is a demigod.
Intelligence, so maybe I can discover a cure for my crippling depression.
Hunter Diaz
25 into Charisma because that has the only appreciable effect in our modern society.
High physical stats are pointless outside of a circus, Int is a waste because we already have all human knowledge accessible at our finger tips and Wis is only good for making me realize the futility of my own existence in a morally subjective universe.
Ryder Lewis
This tbcaehwyf
Josiah Ortiz
>25 is a demigod. In what edition? In 4/5 sure. In 3/2 it's more like giant strength. >24 is 19/00
Justin Bell
Either that or you will gain an even deeper understanding of how futile and pointless life is.
Thomas Thompson
Part 2: What would you do with your 25 charisma?
Jackson Morris
Honestly I'd rather buy some skills than raise my base stats.
Christian Ramirez
With 25 con, how long would that extend my natural life, and would it make me look younger then normal?
Liam Butler
>14 is prodigy bullshit nigger
18 is prodigy. 20 is absolute human maximum except in .0001% of cases such as anomalies like The Mountain or that one dude who can sprint for miles without breaking a sweat
Carter Ortiz
I think that is the most likely outcome
Angel Morris
But intelligence will only amplify your sorrow, user.
I choose charisma. As the ultimate chad, I can lead humanity into the future while you wallow in schizophrenic despair.
Nathaniel Perez
It's largely accepted that the max human lifespan is 120 years. Even with insane con, aging catches up to everyone eventually
Hunter Jenkins
Same thing we do every night Pinkie.
Owen Rodriguez
Charisma. 25 Charisma, do you even know how fucking high that is by "Gandalf was a 5th level magic user" standards? That's at least 5 points higher than Napoleon "amma use the army that was sent to arrest me to reconquer Paris" Bonaparte. That's enough to book a flight to the white house, walk in and convince the entire American people to accept me as President for life.
D&D and real life have one thing in common: if your charisma is high enough, your other stats do not matter.
Kevin Barnes
Constitution would be neat.
Aiden Wood
This. Extremely attractive people, physically or thanks to their words, can get everything they want.
First become the president of my country, then the leader of the Glorious European Federation, and lead us towards an age of internal peace and prosperity as we crush any and all resistance apart from the Big 3, US, China and Russia. We get back to dominating the world, don't give a shit about others, and are finally free from the 3's influence.
Blake Peterson
This. 14 is good, but nothing uncommon.
Grayson Young
Constitution, because I've got a really annoying chronic health condition putting me down to something like 7.
Parker Moore
ITT: >the only reason my life sucks is because I'm ugly ;_;
Henry Gutierrez
25 wisdom, achieve nirvana and write philosophical scripts that will become posthumously one of the miliary stone of modern philosophy
Live life in relative obscurity but content with my life
Camden Fisher
>You now have 25 Int, but still only 8 Wis, so you're a clinically depressed nihilist, trapped in your own inescapable rationalizations with no hope of deriving personal meaning or joy in an indifferent universe >tfw too smart to live
Aaron Hill
It litteraly is the case though. I don't think I'm ugly, and I doubt many anons are, but we're just average, in the 90%. I'm white, shit beard, average face, average height, brown eyes and brown hair. I'm litteraly the average man.
Give me a better apperance any time my dude. That means a better job and a better social life. In our society, that's the be all end all of a good life. My life doesn't suck, far from it, but one's life can always be improved. You just have to learn how to take it, as an objective to achieve rather than an ideal you'll never get. Anyhoo.
Bentley Morris
>implying 25 Wis leads to this
Aiden Mitchell
Nah. If you rationalize, you'll understand that thinking nihilism-way is counter-effective in most of situations. Nihilistic thinking is useful as one of approaches to consider, it's crucial step to thinking more objectively, but if anyone had 25 Int, they'd introspect and understand that rationalization is joy itself. And as long as we are universe itself too, the only option to change indifferentness of universe toward ourselves is to take care about yourself and everyone who you consider worthy of caring. It's shit and nothing compared to vast amount of "you change nothing, bruh" given by cosmos to us, but it's the biggest impact and biggest importance we can get anyway in given time.
t. Man who would choose wis or int, because he lacks those
Hudson Anderson
Well being very wise would have you reamise you know fuck all compared to the grand scheme of things, even more so if you widen the scale to an international, galactic or even universal one. Hard not to feel insignificant and useless when you consider that.
Ayden Morales
Magic is much better than charisma in DnD
Ethan Perry
With 25 charisma, you can convince the wizard to do the magic the way you want him to.
Chase Cooper
Constitution has no effect on aging, but you'd be able to eat anything, no matter how moldy.
Lucas Thomas
16 WIS is thinking your place in the universe is insignificant, because you are so small and the world is so big.
25 WIS is realizing there is no such thing as a "place" or "significance". Things simply are. And that is alright.
Joseph Wilson
Alternatively with 25 charisma you can cast quite some impressive spells yourself as a sorcerer.
Wyatt Lopez
Dexterity. You can build plethora of characters based on Dex, without any other vital main stats. A lot of interesting skills are based on Dex. Dex is just a king of physical stats.
Yeah, godlike accuracy, combat skills, reflexes, flexibility, sneakiness. All good shit and I can't really gain all that with training, unlike strength.
Evan Watson
Wisdom, because I have a decent Int and really lack in it. Then I'll use the boost to Willpower to actually do something with my life.
Blake Collins
user, that's wisdom. Intelligence is the cold rationality and facts as we know them; but ironically, perfectly intelligent people are also exceedingly proficient at twisting facts, spinning elaborate narratives and rationalizations that can be deceptive. That's because plenty of perfectly intelligent people lack sense. You see these people all the time; they're very smart but they just can't seem to get their lives together, or they're smart and miserable. That's because raw intelligence isn't so useful when it comes to discerning between the things that will help or harm you, and more intelligence isn't going to fix that.
That's wisdom; your senses, your intuition, your discrimination, and your honesty. If Wisdom as a stat serves any role, it's that. Wisdom is the ability to perceive clearly, to read people and the environment, distinguish friends from manipulators, and see through deception, including the most insidious kind of deception, which is self-deception. The smartest people you know who aren't also miserable probably aren't just brainiacs, they would have the Wisdom to match.
Adam Carter
>Intelligence is the cold rationality and facts as we know them >That's wisdom; [...] your discrimination
>Veeky Forums and Veeky Forums are intelligence personified >/pol/ and /int/ are wisdom personified deepest lore!
Zachary Nguyen
>which ability score will you choose and why? Wisdom for loners, Charisma for socialites. Maybe Constitution if I wanted to just have fun.
John Jackson
>charisma is only physical appearance
Ryan Smith
ITT: >the only reason my life sucks is because I'm ugly and drop spaghetti ;_;
Jackson Ross
More like >the only reason my life sucks is because I can't make thousands worship me by just coughing
Nolan Clark
>charisma is only physical appearance and diplomacy checks In about 3-4 more posts you will reach what charisma actually means
Blake Wood
I'd choose dex, and then i'd use my powers for doing cool parkour stunts
Noah Adams
>Take INT >Devise a means to immortality with my newfound intelligence >Once that's done with, devise a way to boost other stats up to 25 (STR and CON probably being easiest, followed by DEX and WIS, hardest being CHA)
It might take a hundred or more years but if you're immortal that's no big deal.
Evan Evans
Str=15. I weigh over 300lbs and I can easily crush all who stand in my path. If I went to the gym it could easily be higher.
Dex = 10. I am not clumsy and I can easily do a combat roll on the ground if I wanted to.
Con=15. I am over 300 pounds so hardly any amount of blows to my body will move me. Plenty of natural padding and shock absorbtion in a fight.
Int = 16. I know all the D&D rules across multiple editions verbatim. I can easily recall the most obscure rule or spell to apply to any situation. It could easily be higher if I ever felt the need to re-attend and finish university.
Wis = 16. I am an atheist. Given how small an amount of the world populace is also atheist, percentage wise, I believe this rightfully puts me at the better end of the bell curve.
Cha = 15. I regularly seduce many different women over many different online games through just words alone. And it could easily be higher if I ever felt like going on a date in real life.
Christopher Johnson
wow user shower me in more fruits of your WISdom
Jackson Roberts
Continuing: with an excellent stat block like this I only need to maximize Dexterity to become an ideal human being.
Cooper Lopez
Wisdom. I need my will save buffed immensely
Gavin Gonzalez
Constituton.
Because my families' genetics ensure me dying around 50 years old by either heart attack or cancer.
Colton Bell
>When you're fat like Smough but roll like Ornstien
Aaron Torres
Intelligent people aren't gods, user. Sometimes intelligence merely leads you to bump into the limitations of human ability. Sometimes the answer is "we can't".
Andrew Long
You are probably a Czechshit
Josiah White
constitution
Nolan Phillips
Intelligence is the the retention and accumulation of knowledge.
Unless you have an extensive education, a large grant, several hard-working peers, the savy to navigate a skeptical university board of directors and literally decades of research, followed by actual empirical experimentation. You still don't have shit going for you.
The "In a cave, with a box of scraps" meme is real and all the smarts in the world doesn't overcome scarcity.
Blake Allen
25 Con is an interesting one. Do we assume the average person has about 6 HP? If so, 25 Con more than doubles your "health".
Ian Rodriguez
>25 is a demigod. Pfffhahahahahaha Dude, my barb had 46 Str W/O magic items at 12th level, he still neded 8 levels to reach demigod tier
My current 8th level monk has 24 Dex without magic items too
Xavier Mitchell
Cha
Andrew Johnson
>My current 8th level monk has 24 Dex without magic items too
So what does he do with this dexterity? Suck his dick?
Christopher Reed
>Normal person has AC 10 >25 Dex turns your AC into 17 almost doubling your chances of dodging anything Might be a good idea
James Ross
This user gets it.
The only difference between the wise man and a fool is that a wise man knows he knows nothing.
Its probably the biggest downer ever to be that wise especially when you realize the truth that wisdom can't be taught or shared.
Blake Bell
Punch pretty hard >Feat that makes you use Dex to attack and damage
Elijah Gray
Get Charisma to 25 and you radiate that shit like a black sun of apathy. Drag everyone down to your level and be a king.
Andrew Wright
2 bullets instead of 1 and a 40% greater chance to overcome disease.
AMAZING!
Hudson Hall
Buddha shared wisdom fine.
Charles Morales
Actually is a great idea, your average dude has a bonus to hit of +0. With AC 17 he only hits you 20% of the time
Joseph Clark
Probably Charisma. Time to sell snake oil, become a youtube star, or maybe a televangelist.
Asher Bennett
Buddha was a hack.
Brandon Nguyen
really gets the noggin joggin
Julian Hill
>Not teaming up with team USA and the rest of the West. Doomed to fail eurocuck.
Nathan Carter
Inteligence, just for all the free bonus languages.
Sebastian Rogers
That sounds about right. a 14 in another stat is equivalent to a 120 IQ for int.
Owen Gutierrez
Or a bard. They're full casters now and give wizards a run for their money.
Aaron Hernandez
Wisdom. Skill is nothing without the will to use it.
Justin Reed
I wouldn't call someone barely in the top 10% a prodigy
Landon Walker
Wisdom. Mainly because Wisdom relates to willpower, and with a 25 maybe I'll actually have the motivation to do something.
Ryan Williams
People aren't, no, but someone with 25 INT would be. That is smarter than Liches, Dragons (who are claimed to be significantly smarter than humans), Aboleths, timeless brain slugs that have psychic rape powers, and Illithids. In fact, thats 4 higher than a fucking Illithid Elder Brain. You would be on par with a particularly slow Mind from The Culture.
This is d&d intelligence, so as long as you have enough WIS to have common sense you'd be fine. In fact, just having that much INT would make increasing WIS easier.
Robert Gray
I always felt like charisma should relate to willpower but whatever.
Jackson Campbell
...and who would? What are you responding to?
Benjamin White
Access to information and the ability to process it are two different things. Int, Cha, and Con all have their benefits.
Tyler Jones
DnD mental stats honestly don't make that much sense
Aaron Carter
Wasn't the point of the post I responded to that 14 int was actually an incredible feat?
Lincoln Cook
>if you think you've got a score at 14, you're either a prodigy or delusional
Aaron Bennett
Only good answers are INT and CHA.
INT: Best shot wt living forever.
CHA: Won't live forever, but what a ride!
Rest are fun but vastly inferior:
STR: Ultra strong but unattractive just comes off as try hard. Enjoy career as a bricklayer.
WIS: Solomon was the wisest of men, and it only brought him suffering.
DEX: Congrats you're a juggler. Maybe give really good blowjobs.
CON: Oh wow I can eat moldy bread! As long as your con is average+ your lifespan has more to do with lifestyle, money, and habits ie CHA / INT / WIS.
Ian Roberts
No, it was just to give data that actually maps the ability values to their respective IQ scores, so a fruitless debate can finally be grounded on something and settled. I agree with you.
Nolan Brooks
Ya, not really. Trying to cram them in a box is bullshit also, not giving martials some kind of advantages on mental saves and fortitude by default is also bullshit. They should be a lot harder to disturb and falter due to the immense amount of punishment they have to deal with on almost a daily basis.
Aaron Moore
After 20 they basically only mean "really good at casting certain types of spells" anyway. It's not like having a high int has ever been free reign to invent whatever you want in character
Carson Powell
>STR: Ultra strong but unattractive just comes off as try hard. Enjoy career as a bricklayer. I dunno, 25 STR with at least a little bit of DEX would give you a pretty good career as a boxer/Muy Thai fighter/wrestler.
Julian Peterson
Not to mention being the greatest strongman of all time. 25 str is probably the tipping point where you start to be able to wrestle cars, much less people.
Aaron Baker
If you can't imagine a well paying career from every one of the stats being 25 you're probably just not really trying hard enough, though wisdom would probably be a bit more tricky.
Juan Reyes
>CON: Oh wow I can eat moldy bread! And never get drunk, or overdose.
And have sex all night long.
Parker Lopez
And hold your breath longer. I imagine the biggest perk is you could be one of those rare people that lives to be 100+ while chain smoking and drinking every day
Evan Powell
A 5e human with 25 STR and no class abilities or Feats can carry, as in carry around all day long with no side effects, 375 lbs and can push, lift, or drag without a strength check (as in, trivially) 750 lbs, and can make an Athletics check to lift more.
The feat Brawny doubles both numbers, and would presumably be fitting for someone with 25 STR.
The Racial "Powerful Build" doubles that again. Races with Powerful Build are 7-8 feet tall, so if you'd have it or not depends on if your apothesis includes getting hueg.
The Bear Totem doubles this a third time, though requires spiritual attunement to a bear spirit.
A Bear Barbarian Golaith with 25 STR can carry without effort 3000 lbs, and can push, drag, or lift without needing a check 1500 lbs.
Easton Turner
Wisdom covers medicine in 5e so yeah. I bet someone with 25 WIS would make a great therapist too.
Jayden Brooks
25 Con. >infinite stamina lets me build Str and Dex the old fashioned way without my existing physical problems >11-13 Int already and I think better innawoods or innadesert >Cha rises as a function of Cha-dness >Wis rises with life experience
Charles Clark
All I can think about in terms of modern 25 wisdom guy is some sort of celebrity guru
Jayden Miller
Wisdom is also the perception and sense motive stat. You'd probably make a pretty good detective.
Cooper Taylor
Or a super good poker player
Jonathan Cruz
>Int is a waste because we already have all human knowledge accessible at our finger tips That's not why it's a waste. Plenty of people are still ignorant fools despite this.
Getting int higher than mid-teens is a waste because it doesn't guarantee anyone will do anything for you. You can have all the brains in the world, but unless you have a PhD or piles of grant-money, you might as well not exist as far as the scientific community is concerned.
Jaxson Hill
Charisma is external willpower - that is, your ability to influence other people and your environment. But wisdom is what gets you out of bed in the morning.
Daniel Sanchez
>wisdom would probably be a bit more tricky. Consultant, therapist, guru, detective, anything that relies on perception(photographer, maybe?)...
Jacob Baker
constitution, I can hit the gym for strength and keep going for my masters, maybe even get a bachelors in education after military service. youtube.com/watch?v=y5cVumvzY5c
David Williams
>he doesn't know about the positive correlation between being intelligent and being depressed Ignorance really IS bliss.