/srg/ - Shadowrun General

Hrm. Refresh my memory, free spells for priority magicians. Is it a combination of rituals, spells and preparations or a separate pool for each one?

>Armour protects better against getting hit six times than getting hit with something six times the size
It sure does. The Panther hits you one time with -5 AP, while getting hit by lets say an AK74 6 times still has -1 AP. Their damage values are 10 and 11 respectively here, yet the AK74 damage has a much higher chance of getting reduced by armor than the Panther does.

The Panther damage is as stated still a bit underwhelming for what it is but clearly is so for balance issues. Even so, the fact that the only way to shoot at someone with an automatic weapon in 5e is to wiggle your spray so they get a harder time to dodge is not an improvement in the combat system in my opinion.

Combination.

>Even so, the fact that the only way to shoot at someone with an automatic weapon in 5e is to wiggle your spray so they get a harder time to dodge
Ok. Except that's wrong. Run & Gun. Read it.

Adding on to what said, it's a combination, but the starting limit is by category.

So if you for some reason went with Magic A and then took your magic down to 3 you're not wasting any spell picks.

You're still limited to six spells, six rituals, and six preparations, so that's about 40 karma worth to max out what you could start with. Hope you didn't take many positive qualities.

>Ok. Except that's wrong. Run & Gun. Read it.
Yes buying an additional book allows me to add +2 DV to the 6 shot burst with the fantastic action "Brain Blaster". Sorry for not noticing, but Run & Gun is an absolute mess.

Honestly, could they not decide between wanting to be more lethal or less lethal when they transitioned into 5e? And why was this cut from the corebook, which should be all you need to play the game?

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You are given 1 million nuYen, to spend on weapons, ammunition and accessories
What do you get
Assume that this is a one time thing and you are not expected to fight a specific enemy

Avail?

Hey, why does he get 1M￥ and I don't?

1 million nuyen worth of Ares energy weapon prototypes, which I will then resell to the mafia for a significant profit. After that, it's a sex change, an ethnicity change, a new cosmetic metatype, a new legal identity, and a new High lifestyle paid for in full. I'd be perfectly happy to live out the rest of my life in luxury on Sicily.

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Am I awakened? Can I buy foci?

>1 million Nuyen
>Handling -1

Anyone know any movies featuring good interrogation scenes?

Inglourious Basterds

On more serious note, I'd look into documentaries on (counter)intelligence agencies of various totalitarian regimes.

I'm using 5.193.169, and I'm trying to customize a Direktionssekretar's cyberarm. According to the rules, I should be able to Customize it up to Agility 8 - you can as much as double its base rating. However, Chummer is only letting me customize it up to 7, my Elf Rigger's meat body's natural maximum.

Is that a known bug?

Is it maybe 2 availability per rating and as such is 14 at 7 but 16 at 8?

Flick me a copy of the file, I'll have a quick look. Should be working.

Here, I'll start a fresh file just to confirm - that way there will be less cruft for you to sort through too.

You mean good as in 'professional and believable' or good as in 'bloody as hell'?

Meet the Parents for the former, and Casino Royale for the latter.

mega.nz/#!ugVV2LwS!CGFt-OT6Uv32STq7IftFrH8dCG6J7MtZrzYYeBnvgfc

I mean a big company got their hands on someone who they think has information that another company will do anything and everything to make sure that someone takes to the grave.
And I'm having trouble planning the interrogation scene.

The Sunset Limited

Thought I may as well share this with you guys.

I've been looking forever for some software to make floor plans easily without tripping over my complete lack of artistic or technological skill. Made this in 30 minutes using Google SketchUp, which is free and comes with LayOut.

Battle of Algiers?

Oh. Then there's no real need to plan anything. If it's a Mega, they have the resources to just use truth drugs and mind-control wagemages. If you want a bloody, methodical interrogation you should use the Yaks. If you just want people to lose body parts until they break, Vory.

There aren't many interrogation scenes like that outside of the SAW franchise though.

Die Angestellten an der Anmeldung in der Lobby und im Büro haben keine Einsicht auf die Leute im Wartezimmer, die eine gerade Linie durch den Flur hinten zum Personalbereich, inklusive Lager haben. Da Drogenabhängige vermutlich ab und an auch zu den Patienten gehören würde niemand solche unbeaufsichtigt in die Nähe des Lagers lassen. Ein Personalraum (abgesehen von der Umkleide) wäre auch sinnvoll, und die Toiletten vielleicht näher an die Patienten in der Erstaufnahme die nicht notwendigerweise durch das ganze Stockwerk laufen müssen (in ihrem Zustand wahrscheinlich nicht hilfreich) um zu Pinkeln. Vorrausgesetzt die kriegen nicht alle einfach Katheter.

Danke dafür. Ich bastel es nochmal um.

Das Bereitschaftszimmer ist als Personalraum gedacht, links eine kleine Einbauküche, rechts Tische.

Ganz rechts sind Behandlungszimmer für die Notaufnahme. Wenn jemand länger bleibt kommt er in den zweiten Stock oder wird in ein volles Krankenhaus verlegt. Dafür muss man aber auch die Kohle haben.

Ohhh. I see the problem. I knew that'd come back to haunt me. Short version is that it doesn't know it has a parent attribute to inherit from, so it bases it off the character base. Should be fixable without too much problems.

Cool cool. Just wanted to make sure you were aware it was a thing - I know how much other shit you have on the 'to do' plate already.

Hey, Yekka, whenever you end up fully implementing shapeshifters, are you planning on including the Provisional, non-Official errata under the houserules?

Regeneration and such? They can be handled through override files, there's no real reason to include them as a separate option.

A big company will have a mage to mind probe any unwilling subject. No need for crude violence.

In Aztechnology, that's regarded as part of the standard. Other companies it's a bit iffier.

Company who "found" the player is Saeder Krupp.
Company who wants the player to keep quiet is Ares.
Player is a dwarf with pretty high resistance against drugs.

Well, the character will know it's happening. It all depends on the level they were caught, and the resources. A local branch might not have a mage who knows the spell and try beating him, or shooting him. If it's SK-PRIME, they'll be going to parachute one in, who'll probably cast the spell while doing paperwork to have the dwarf turned into a lamp or something, with all of it fitted into a schedule.

>S-K v. Ares
Sounds to me like Ares is bending over and presenting their ass to accept whatever S-K is dishing out and that's that.

No one fucks with Azzies. Dragon killers be we. Blood magic we cast all night. Fear us and our magic might.

>Aztechnology discovers the power of the Lantern rings
gg 6th world, see you all in the 7th

>Blood Lantern Corps
I would love to see this.

You can say a lot of things about Aztec, but a lack of creative approaches is definitely not among those.

If a corp ever manages to make Lanterns a thing, it'll be Aztec.

How would you build one? Sustained Blood magic preparation? Is there a spell that comes close to "creativity manifestation"?

Because he posted a picture and you didn't.

>implying Azzies would get Green

There are other lanterns, you know. And all of them allow some form of creative forming of the constructs within their emotional realm.

How's the anger management skill of the average Azzie? Is the red lantern corps a little too on the nose?

In the corporate ranks? Fine. The high-end fruitcake sects of magicians tend to get used for a while, then annihilated. The Gestalt and Oscuro are a good example, especially with their spectacular burnout rate. The Priesthood is likely to be the next.

While we wait for bright to come out, what's the most shadowrun movie?

Heistwise, the Ocean's series.

Cyberpunk-wise...tossup between Bladerunner and Lawnmower Man

Resurrect the Single Spell Sustaining Foci from 3e. Make it out of one or two or more of the things depending on just how much flex you want to give out.

Then do something to make 'em hard to take off the person you're giving the ring to, keep the original mage safe, and volia.

Bladerunner for the atmosphere.
Dredd for more modern atmosphere, and a look at what happens when a bit of cop impersonation goes very, very wrong for a team.
Hentai Kamen for a look at early-Awakening era Adepts coming to grips with their powers.
The Ninth Gate is great, but I just like that movie. Very occult atmosphere, so for mage heavy, I guess? Also Johnny Depp gets fucked by the devil.

>Then do something to make 'em hard to take off the person you're giving the ring to

Some kind of penalty to attune to it? Either that or the focus is from the custom Lantern tradition and therefore can't be used by people of other traditions.

Anchored manipulate spells in tattoos.

I was thinking more about physical things that make it hard to take the focus off the person because of how the Single Spell Sustaining Focus worked in 3e.

As soon as it was no longer touching or held by the person it was sustaining a spell on, it stopped sustaining that spell and the whole little ritual has to be done again by the mage that was attuned to the ritual.

So like a gauntlet or something.

Er, quickened.

>So like a gauntlet or something.

Some kind of ring, mebbe? They're hard to take off against a person's will (unless you cut off the whole finger, in which case they would cut off the entire hand or whatever it's attached to).

So do only the Azzies know how to cast blood magic or are there people who practice it on the side.

buttplug focuses.

There are plenty of other people who can use blood magic. It's just Aztechnology has a public (well, shadow public) perception of being a pack of blood magic obsessed fruitcakes.

Lots of people know blood magic, the Aztecs just made a national passtime of it. For instance, a lot of vampires know it because they're Awakened and neck-deep in blood anyways.

A ring is too easy to take off. It needs to be harder.

And you need something to help avoid yellow, wood, and yellow wood. (I may have made mistakes in remembering the background of Alan Scott's ring.)

Just how dangerous is it if the big D himself but a bounty up for the head of every blood magic practitioner?

see

>Just how dangerous is it if the big D himself but a bounty up for the head of every blood magic practitioner?
are you being sarcastic?
Because I can imagine someone being not-well read enough to seriously ask that question

The Ordo probably does, but regular vampires not so much. It is a bit of a bitch to learn if you're not already getting molested by spirits of unpleasant aspects. Not like the vampires blood use really helps them with the magic unless they've got a powerful urge to cast right while they're feeding.
Dunkelzahn was concerned because 99% of practiced blood magic is 'death magic', taking from other beings. That sends the background count up. Makes things more pleasant for horrors, where other blood rituals nearly brought them over thousands of years early. It's also got some funky effects on the person using it, but those are mostly fluff based and dependent on how much of an arsehole they were before.

Pretty dangerous in the sense that it brings the Horrors closer faster before certain plans can come to fruition.

In the fighty sense? About as dangerous as any other mage.

Mystic adept blood mages are kind of scary as a concept. Combat focused with a bladed weapon and the right spell selection? Yeech.

Quite a lot of people use Blood Magic, relatively speaking.

The Triads for one are known for it. Wouldn't surprise me if the Vory and the Mafia also had one or two blood mages on payroll regarding their cultural backgrounds.

Aztech however actually puts down major financial backing into their blood magic research. When talking about Aztechnology blood magic we're not talking about some guys with a library, a nice little Haven and some spell formulas off the Matrix, we're talking mages with free access to cloned and captured metahumans, fleshform spirits and more, sitting in a state-of-the-art research facility with the best damn hot coco machine in the world just sitting in the employee lounge.

Dunkelzahn was a wimp and a fgt. Lofwyr best Dragon, fite me.

The Forbidden Arcana story with Red has him, some random neophyte, and some old vampire all knowing blood magic. The Ordo definitely knows how to do it, and some initiate and Great Form ritual shit, but it's widespread knowledge enough that some fresh vampirette has put it together.

Yeah, Viscera Web is really nasty spell, but hey! It makes harvesting those expensive adept vein reagents a piece of cake.

Then that's the most fucking retarded story I've ever seen. Did they relax the whole "YOU CANNOT SELF INITIATE INTO BLOOD MAGIC" rule now? Shit, isn't Red supposed to be that elven nosferatu who survived pre-awakening anyway?

All the dragons are kind of shitty. I'd kill them all if the horrors wouldn't descend to fuck metahumanity in the ass.

The implication is that Red is the one teaching this girl, and possibly that this old vamp taught Red (or at least has assumed a mentor-like role). I'm just saying there are informal societal structures that are spreading this knowledge.

He's not a nosferatu, just a straight-up vampire, but I can't recall the details.

And how do I 'override files?' I'm someone with zero coding knowledge of any kind.

So she didn't just put it together herself. I can stop foaming at the mouth, then. Bitch thinks she's better than this glorious motherfucker? No.

Thematically it fits vampires, but it doesn't really help them mechanically, I guess. Not like you can stick blood in the freezer and use it for magic two weeks later unless you jam the rest of the metahuman in there. I guess the next stop on the abhorrent magic train is a version that works on spirits and makes everyone hate you even more.

> (You)
>I'm also the dude that started the street-sam code of honor debate.

Which one?

>Running a game in Denver
>Party has to destroy a strip club stolen from the Vory by the Yakuza
>Said strip club is in the Aztlan sector at the moment
>Runners pile into the Rigger's van... which has a steel lynx in the back because "I don't know where else to put it."
>Rigger is driving, and decides that he needs to roll his knowledge of the city to know where the border crossings are and the best route to the target
>Critical Glitch on 7 dice
>"See, if we just go along Highway 25, we'll need to cross through the CAS border checkpoints out of the Hub and then another checkpoint into Aztlan territory. CAS border's along the hub aren't that hard to get through, so I guess the Aztlan ones wouldn't be either.
>Other runner decides he's going to roll a logic check because he's not the brightest and wants to know if his character would go along with it
>Another critical glitch
>"This is a brilliant plan."
>The rigger nearly gets caught on a scan at the first border checkpoint as his fake SIN is nearly spotted. Luckily, they wave him through after a second scan thinking there was an error
>Border MP's so easily passed by, the party of two forges ahead
>To the Aztlan Checkpoint. With the CAS sector. In Denver.
>Helicopters and Tanks on both sides, APC's and obvious full on military hardware and bunker emplacements dotting the crossing area.
>Runners merrily roll up to checkpoint and allow them to scan their SIN's
>Rigger (who is also a techno, this will be important soon) once again has a near miss with the SIN
>This time though, the second scan blows through the Fake SIN and they are all shouted at in spanish to get out of the car, hands on head, onto the ground
>Somehow, the other Runner passes his Sin check
>With assault rifles leveled at them, and handcuffed (in the first session) the rigger decides to burn an edge point to see how they could get out of this
>That's when the car behind them explodes

>buying an additional book

You already fucked up omae.

Infinite Gun Works?

Does anyone have info on the Gambler mentor spirit? Apparently it's in some book called Schattenhandbuch 2 and I don't exactly speak german.

>Absolute fucking chaos, as the botched terror attack distracts the Azzies manning the border
>The Rigger/Techno decides to summon a sprite to try and see if he can get the van moving and that the party can use the distraction of the car bomb to get in the van and get the fuck out
>He manages to get a Force 5 sprite to compile... but doesn't get enough hits to actually be able to command it to do anything
>The Machine Sprite notices a Drone in the back of the Rigger's van. A big drone, with a big gun.
>It jumps into the steel lynx, bursts out the back of the van, and then proceeds to kill one of the guards
>The sprite *then* decides "OH LET'S HAVE MORE FUN" and gremlin's a nearby helicopter
>Nothing but hits
>Azzie helicopter ripple fires it's AT missiles at the CAS forces
>Dodging assault rifle fire, and still handcuffed, the techno/rigger manages to climb into the van along with the other runner, and commands it to jump off the interstate to avoid getting blown up as shit is going fucking DOWN now
>Artillery and mortar fire rain down on both sides of the border, and the Sprite in the Lynx proceeds to go on a killing spree in the Aztlan checkpoint before being taken out after it runs out of ammunition
>Still handcuffed, and riding in the van, the party proceeds to steer their way to the target, obviously now tracked by Azzie forces
>Parking next to the club, they free themselves from the handcuffs and bolt away before the Eagle Warriors or whatever can arrive
>From a distance proceed to see the club get fucking stormed by a black ops team, and nobody seems to get out
>MissionAccomplished.jpg
>At this point though, no chance of them getting paid, as denver has turned into a free fire zone and Ghostwalker is going absolutely batshit on the Azzies and the UCAS/Sioux forces who siezed the opportunity to try and take the Hub
>Literally in the first run, because of a critical glitch, on a knowledge roll, Denver is now a warzone again.

And that is how my first time running Fifth Edition went.

God fucking damn, I didn't think it could get this crazy.

The Rigger/Technomancer from this session, here.
I really have nothing to say.
Probably should've bought better fake SINs.

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That went about as expected, it seems.

Honest to god, I didn't expect any of it. The dice just worked out that way.

dice and bad decisions.

Amazing.

Anyone up to holecheck the mission I wish to run next week?

>Johnson wants runner to abduct a coma patient from a low-security clinic
>Biker gang attack is to be the distraction needed
>Biker gang contact provided by Johnson is a lieutenant who wants out
>Players can choose to go in with fire support from the bikers or go in silent and wait for the attack as a distraction to get out
>Johnson wants them to then drive across town and deliver the patient to a Bunraku parlor
>Depending on how run went they will have to use vehicle combat rules for this
>After drop, Centurion blasts the doors of the Bunraku parlor to save the S-K citizen (the coma patient)
>Characters can earn an additional bit of cash for a milk run of dropping off the body-cam recordings of Centurion troops, provided by Johnson, to the local news station

The idea is that S-K wants to show how incompetent the local security contractor is to get Centurion to be hired for that job while at the same time creating a bit of fire between the local Vory and Vikings.

remind me, how does translating for Dragons work? Why don't dragon speak the language of the place they live? How do they find translators who speak Draconic?

I cannot remember and don't have my books with me