Orcs

With that movie coming out soon. How would Orcs work in contemporary times?

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It depends on how they actually are in terms of culture. If you're talking standard D&D Orcs, not very well. TES Orcs? Would do reasonably well. In my own game, Orcs are divided. They are "civilized" in that most of their race has settled in cities, and changed their veneration of strength into a culture of endurance, both physical and mental. The remainder of them are parts of cults of Gruumsh, and hate that their kinsmen have "sold out" and do everything from just be rebellious teenage Orc "gangs and thugs" to outright terrorism. So it really depends.

They seem to mesh well enough in Bright, at least, though what I've seen I may have inadvertently made my Orcs similar to those.

>Orc "gangs and thugs"

I've always loved this concept.

The Shadowrun movie, you mean?

It's not a shadowrun movie!

I'll admit it's not very original, but I think doing something that's "been done" well is better than being original for the sake of it if what comes of it is crap.

Wew, that's a good pic.
>I'll admit it's not very original,
I've barely seen this.

What movie?

Blight

I'd fug an orc girl if they existed on god

They say interracial marriages work out better.

Never said I'd marry her.
Just fug one that I find in a bar or something.

Sorry, i must be computer illiterate because i've looked for a trailer and can't find one. any links?

NIGGERS THEY'D BE NIGGERS LOOK EVERYBODY IT'S A NIGGER

Uh, I mean, I think in a contemporary setting you need to be careful about the already-dodgy subtext of fantasy racial politics

Yeah, typo / Freudian slip on my side - it's actually called Bright, starring Will Smith.

Oh? Huh. Always thought it was kinda tropey myself. Maybe it's not as common as I thought? Eh, either way. I got a few more pics so why not? Already shared my thoughts on the matter.

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I'm actually making a romantic-comedy dating sim where you date an Orc Girl in modern times.

Besides fugging orc, it'll explore the theme of interracial relationships.

Wow, that... actually looks good.

shadowrun is that you?

The fact that it's practical effects and a lot of them is what sold me. I fucking hate the overabuse of CGI.

It seems to be about cops saving the world so I'd say it's missing a central element of the shadowrun appeal.

The most CGI you see these days is badly done CGI.
The most practical effects you see is well done CGI.

The first part is true, but [citation needed] on the second part. CGI is at an all-time quality low these days because all the good studios are going bankrupt and all the remaining ones are overseas value factories that churn out "acceptable" product.

Now that the elephant in the room has made its leave and took the front door out with it, let's consider how the 'humanized' orcs and 'ghetto' orcs would see one another. Would the thugs see the civilized ones as race traitors, who act "too human" and speak Common in a "human way"? Would the civilized orcs become activists for the plight of the thug orcs, or would they become self-hating racists constantly disappointed by the negative attention their brutish brethren bring on themselves (and by extent the civilized ones)?

>civilization is "human"
This is where your entire post fell apart, user. Quit while you're ahead.

you have my interest.

>all the good studios are going bankrupt

Or producing their own IPs in-house and not freelancing.

Shadowrun

>humans are the only creatures capable of civilization

Why are you even on Veeky Forums?

True, there are some studios that have their own concerns, but even there, you're not seeing the sort of levels you'd like sometimes. Course, that's a matter of opinion, so no need to carry on further than that.

Thuggish or barbarian orcs don't have to be black people. Protip: there are plenty of white barbarians in history and plenty of white criminals and thugs.
There's only an elephant in the room if you're a bigot. It's as simply as that.

>t. dorfs

Just try not to be too preachy about racial stuff, it's something that is too easy to do badly

AYE LADDIE NAE FAHK OFF!

I'll tell you this much, none of the drama of the story will come from the human side of things.

I'd also like to add that I like how Will Smith's character was all "the races are all different but nobody's better than anyone else" then turns right into "welp dat diversity hire doe". I was actually very proud of them for doing that; it would have been easy to go all "oh but he black; he know the struggle is real" instead of knowing that it'd dam well be about humanocentrism and not "i know your pain man". It makes the issue far more real and realistically handled. I kind of wish it were a series instead of a movie, honestly.

That's a really cop attitude to have too.

I'm gonna like this movie.

>I kind of wish it were a series instead of a movie, honestly
Maybe they do one if the movie does well

Second part is way true. People have no idea how much CG goes right over their heads without notice.
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CG is like a woman: they're only good when you don't notice them.

Have you ever talked to women?

Should the fantasy races suffer from the "THEY'RE JUST LIKE US" syndrome, though? And by that I mean that modern day orcs are treated like minorities, but aren't actually that bad of a guy and they're just like humans.

Don't you think it's weird that all fantasy races morality and culture revolves around humanity?

What happens if the orcs form a modern society with 100% Orcish morality and culture, rather than human culture with orc minorities?

Obviously, or did you think I decided to hate women because it's the most productive option?

>"A good bag should be like a woman; simple, and with one, lockable, opening."

They should really be renamed Shreks

>Side-shaved hair.
Mmmm, the slutty-feminist variant. She's gonna top, whether you like it or not.

>fairy lives don't matter today
This nigga

I think your hatred is formed like most hatreds we face today. Lack of experience combined with an echchamber.

So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if you have never talked to a woman in your life.

You've never had sex, have you?

This is some beautiful writing, though.

It's going to go down in history as an even bigger waste of potential than Suicide Squad.

I... what could possibly make you think that, internet stranger?

I think it's a "reader relation" issue. There's also the notion that for a society to actually work, there's some basic checkmarks that need to happen before the word go. Now, morality is actually NOT one of those, so don't get your panties in a bunch. But for a society to happen, people have to be able to work together, and there have been all kinds of societies. Orcs might end up something more akin to Sparta, which would be a society we couldn't even DREAM of living in today, so it'd be completely alien to us, even though it's something humanity did. Basing humanoid culture and society on humans is because well, we're human, so it's a stepping-off point to understanding said culture. It makes it more relatable. If you make a culture super-alien, you'll have people that think that's cool, but most people will balk at it and just pass it by, or do their own thing which may ruin the subject matter.

Narrated by a CGI apologist.

Although he has a point. Fury Road was all practical effects, but it was also almost all CGI as well. CGI does work best when it's not noticed, and you don't notice crappy effects if the movie is good.
The problem with CGI is overuse of it, and reliance on it to carry a movie instead of the writing.

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So black people?

What is orcish morality and culture and how is it alien to humans? I mean humans have a very large range of behaviors; several of our cultures would seem "inhuman" were they viewed by another sufficiently different human culture.

I mean, they're just shallow stand ins for generic savage cultures, so anything that was considered uncivilized primitives a good 300-400 years ago can be looked at now to see where it'd wind up.

So extinct?

>some orc stands up to a bunch of thugs in the subway and gets stabbed to death
>humans organize a silent wake
>orcs throw a party in his honour

>orcish terrorism
I like this idea

Integration into human culture is really bad for orcs. Dominating humans is too easy and they quickly lose interest in partners of their own race, eventually they get absorbed into the larger human population and die out.

Humans being easy to dominate might make them less desirable as mates for women from orc cultures that greatly value strength in men, which would seem in-character for the race.

b-but muh snu-snu fetish!

Depends on how lazy they are. Human men are easy, and they hit all the sexual characteristics. When attractive fuckboys are so easy to get it becomes hard putting in the effort for seducing a properly orcy partner. Even more so now that proper orc men can just go humaning if they don't find you engaging enough.

It's very sad you know. To be outbred like that. That's why orc shamans emphasize the values of getting many children and maintaining a hostile relationship with humans.

>no tusks
>biceps aren't as thick as their heads
>can't wrap one hand around your waist
>skin isn't even the right color
>hit all the sexual characteristics
Nah. At best human fuckboys attract male orcs by looking so feminine. The women would see nothing of value.

What is up with this recent orc cuck fetishism? Has the cuck disease just evolved into a new form?

Initially, (all) Orcs buy into the macho bullshit that's being advertised on every screen you can see. Axe body spray sales would triple overnight, and the fraternity needs to compete with an orc bro who can crush a keg with his head.

Human-influenced Orc culture would start branching out. Female Orcs catch the "fight like a girl" punk scene, and a few male Orcs get in on leather daddy fashions. Over time, Orcs would adapt to more "human" ways of expressing power, such as conspicuous consumption.

Human culture wouldn't be untouched, of course. Gun nuts have another boogieman to justify even larger rifles, not realizing an Orc could buy one just as easily. Everyone buys into the Charles Atlas fantasy a little more. Music influenced by Orc folk tales (often performed by Orc bands) makes a huge splash in the rock and metal scenes.

>Have all their teeth
>Even skin
>Big dicks
It's all they need. You do realize orcs aren't as big to their own women as they are to ours? You need to get the bull image out of your head. That's just raceplay porn.

>You do realize orcs aren't as big to their own women as they are to ours?
Every fantasy race suffers from the humanoid females monstrous males design

>>Have all their teeth
But they don't have tusks. It'd be like missing your front teeth, except you don't even need to open your mouth for it to be noticeable.

>Don't bully people!
Orcs aren't people.

Please elaborate.

The better question is, why are Orks even a Minority in the first place? If anything, integrated culture would have at least as many Orks as humans, with elves and dwarfs being the rare ones

It is a shadowrun prequel.

I once had a setting where several order of Paladins/Priests and several tribes of Orcs had thing for each other.

Orcs in my setting should do just fine; after all, they were the first to establish modern nation-states and a constitution.

Mad Max: Fury Road had considerable amount of CGI.

If we are going to add fantasy elements to a modern setting, and have a form of terrorism, I feel like the best terrorist would be the druids.

I currently play a Half-Orc ex-"Yakuza" style Fighter in 5e. It's pretty fucking fun being the super over the top tough guy who will pretend getting hit by 3 arrows in a round is no big deal, and will stand up straighter to protect the people behind him.

Weirdly enough, Europe in the colonial time is closer to Tolkien Orcs than anything.

>That's just raceplay porn.
>says the one arguing for humans outbreeding orc men

You just wanted us to post orc girls diddn't you?
Good work

You get drunk and have a one night stand with an orc girl.

The following work day, you find out she works in the same building as you.

It's directed by the same guy who made Suicide Squad, it stars a guy who hasn't made a good movie in 20 years, and it has scenes that look photocopied out of Alien Nation. Like, could they try any harder to make this look unappealing?

It's gap moe, my man. In the same way I find a tall, muscular, green woman with crazy teeth and who wants to dominate me attractive, so too could an orc woman find a human man attractive. People, and orcs, like different things. You're generalizing.

Sounds like Islamic populations in foreign countries, m'dude

Real eco-terrorists with magic powers that make their goals plausible would be so fucking cool.

>Gun nuts
Ok "RPG nut". They would accept orcs as members of a true warrior society, equally as suspicious of authority as they.

Imagine something like P.E.T.A. but actually caring for well-being of the animals.

>P.E.T.A. but actually caring for well-being of the animals
O.E.T.A. ?

and instead of bizarre marketing stunts they stop fucking around and forest-bomb cities or direct a pod of buffed-up whales to sink ships

>No deckers
>No augments
>No adepts
>No dragons
>Literally the only magic we see is a macguffin everyone wants because apparently they've never seen magic before
>Just a modern setting with orcs and fairies and shit
>But since it has orcs and guns in a city everyone keeps calling it "Shadowrun"

WELCOME TO MIDDLE ERF

Clearly it's a prequel staged during the early years of goblinization

>Orcs are divided
This is the best way to handle them if you want playable orcs. Some tribes have become entirely civilized and live and work in the larger cities together with other races. Some tribes make a living as pirates and merchants on the seas. And some tribes are still raiding and pillaging nomads.

Post more cute orc grils

>it'll explore the theme of interracial relationships.
This cannot be done well. Your game is doomed.

>bullies people every day of her life, up to and including killing them
>expects to be treated any differently when she puts herself completely out of her element in a different arena of competition where she no longer has the advantage

Humiliation is too merciful a punishment for her crimes, compounded by her rank hypocrisy.

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That is highly problematic