Does Slaanesh have a future?

Slaanesh is based the concept that every society/civilization has taboo/moral limit and people desire to go beyond those limit

There was a Slaanesh Sorcerer lord in the WHQ Hammerhal game

The just did Start Collecting Slaanesh

Fulgrim is coming soon

Hopefully they will just remove the cringe associated with the fanbase.

>If the god of pleasure is a corrupting power, then any pleasure is potentially corrupting.
That's the point. EVERYTHING in 40K is potentially corrupting.
>Learning is great. I'm gonna learn as much as I can because wisdom and knowledge are awesome!
>I am a man of honor and valor. I stand in the face of my enemies and fear nothing. I will never know defeat so long as I breathe!
>I love my family. I shall spend my time with my family and we will grow and thrive and prosper.

And now you're all daemon princes because you liked that one thing too goddamn much.
Hell, if you like fedora tipping on the internet too much you become an acolyte of Nehoco. there's nothing too pure, innocent or banal that overindulgence in it doesn't lead to corruption.

Which is an absurdly meek moral stance to take, on the order of "be nice to people" and "clean up after yourself" on the scale of complicated morality.

>Which is an absurdly meek moral stance to take, on the order of "be nice to people" and "clean up after yourself" on the scale of complicated morality.
Or
>don't be a dick
>be awesome to each other
>just be a decent person
Goddamn, that's such a vague way to define your morality.

>Slaanesh personifies going beyond cultural norms
>Relegated to the dustbin of 40k history

In a way, it had to happen.
The only way out is to castrate the god and dilute its juices.

What do you get when you castrate of god of excess? It just doesn't work anymore. You're adding limit to the unlimited.

With Fulgrim practically confirmed, I can see a shift in focus from hedonism to the EC's Perfectionism to insane degrees for the whole faction.

>I love my family. I shall spend my time with my family and we will grow and thrive and prosper.
>Legends tell of the demon prince of Slaanesh, Senpai Leeman
>He loved his family to excess and fell to the temptation of the ruinous powers
>Now daemonettes hunt for his descendants to drag them kicking and screaming into the warp where they will be forced to dwell his unnaturally pleasant cottage in the eye of terror
>There they will be forced to endure the torments of home cooking and wholesome family activities for eternity
>For in the grim darkness of the far future every night is family night

right, it's so vague that literally everyone agrees. There shouldn't be any controversy there.
It doesn't even make the holder a bad person to believe it, since even if you don't have a complicated, nuanced and rigorous moral philosophy that you espouse and hold yourself to, you can still manage to be a good person, since it's pretty rare that in real life an axe murderer comes to your house and asks if there's a switch in your attic where if you flip it a trolley will crash into a lifeboat, but if you don't flip it, you strangle baby hitler in his crib. So a moral attitude of "I try to be a positive influence on people around me" is enough to generally be a pretty good person.

So no, Slaanesh is not encouraging homophobia and it's self-serving political grandstanding to claim anything about 40K has any significant positive or negative moral message.

loving your family and focusing on their growth and prosperity is Nurgle.
Each of those examples were different chaos gods. Papa Nurgle is Papa Nurgle for a reason. Honorable warriors still fall to Khorne, even without giving in to raging bloodlust. And literally every nerd who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room is an acolyte of Tzeentch.

They're reinventing the god.

It was once all about seduction and intoxication which makes perfect sense. You can easily embody these concepts. You can also easily imagine yjr Space Marines of old becoming corrupted by these things.

That had to go. Not kid friendly. Not intelligentsia friendly. Linking carnality and intoxication to violence and death has become a minefield.

They tepidly tried changing the god of drugs and sex to one of obsession and excessive perfectionism, but it didn't catch on. Moreover, how do you even embody these concepts in miniatures. And is not ever faction of the Imperium obsessive?

And so it's come to this. Slaanesh has been deliberately shrouded in obscurity for some time now, and for some time to come. This has been done to create a blank slate of sorts one upon which a new vision of Slaanesh will be inscribed.

Are the rumors true? Will Slaanesh be reinvented as a god of 'pleasure through pain'. If so, will they explore sexual territory, or will they play it safe and settle for flushed faces and torn flesh.

Y'know, I genuinely think all this will boil down to is taking the nipples off the models and most of the art focusing on noise marines and torture machines (like a grungier Dark Eldar).
Once the actual visible sex references are sanded off the whole thing will die down.

>I can see a shift in focus from hedonism to the EC's Perfectionism to insane degrees for the whole faction.

How would "perfectionism monsters" look?
Malevolent preening?

>Not kid friendly.
Yet the other 3 are? Khorne is filled as as much blood and gore as the the human body can contain. Nurgle has his followers decaying and becoming masses of filth and death. And Tzeentch is basically a corrupt politician turned up to 11 that does nothing but lie and cheat to get his way. None of them are the best role models, and this doesn't even include the other factions in the universe.

Only one of the chaos gods tends to include sexual content that nerds enjoy. And if there's anything that the left-wing puritans hate, it's men , especially low-status men like nerds/gamers, being happy or feeling comfortable exploring sexuality in media.

What kind of twisted stuff are you in to if you feel happy and comfortable around slaaneshi lore?

Pain, mostly.

Like Marble statues, but exaggerated and stretched to monstrous proportions with uncanny valley features.

You mean of the whole hobby?

The problem of course, is that what constitutes "not being a dick" and "being a dick" generally varies, thus applying a generic Hallmark Card-tier moral bandage on humanity is going to cause all sorts of problems.
>I'll try to be a positive influence
Often said by those who just try instead of being. "Oh I TRIED being a positive influence but X, Y and Z happened, so oops. It's not my fault. At least I tried though." It's just half-hearted bullshittery, like when someone says "I don't care about [subject]." Just mere posturing of being good rather than actually being good.
When someone says platitudes like "don't be a dick," it just feels like he has his heart in the right place, but lack the mental fortitude and power to really delve into what actually constitutes as positivity.

>They tepidly tried changing the god of drugs and sex to one of obsession and excessive perfectionism

When did this happen?

Well it kind of makes sense - Slaanesh is the god of self-indulgence taken to an illogical extreme, whereas Khorne is the god of fucking murdering/killing everything, including yourself - with an unhealthy dose of self-repression in the service of boodlshed thrown in.

chaos god of friendship and wholesomness when

Is there an image dump of this one somewhere?

Tzeentch is too abstract to offend with immediacy
Khorne's carnage is often implied
Nurgle and his rotting hordes are far from everyday concerns and have a cartoony quality to them

Contrast to these a Slaaneshy vixen with spread legs and heaving bosom. That, my friend, has the power to provoke strong emotion at a glance.

people realized that media depictions of violence don't actually make people violent.

Nurgle already exists, user.

>What kind of twisted stuff are you in to if you feel happy and comfortable around slaaneshi lore?

People watch Planet of the Apes to better understand humanity (a story in which murderous monkeys butcher humans). By analogy, the deviant sexual crimes of demon-whores in space can help us think about healthy and normal human behavior.

Same thing with the ancient Athenians and the Amazons or Centaurs.

they did?

I don't know. It was such a failure that no one even noticed.

But where have all the daemonettes gone?

If they keep listening to the "millions of POC and female players who'd spend all their money in the product if they just changed everything about it", yes.
Then they will continue to lose money as they shit on the target audience because they listened to a faggot tumblrite and his immaginary friends.

Excess, you dumb whore.

I see slaanesh as more an eye boob with barbed tongue that slits your throat kind of god.

The left hates sex and themselves just a tiny bit more than they hate white hetero nerds.
A goddess that promises everyone can be eternally blissful in excess is the creepiest shit ever for such people.

The way I see it, the Left objects to Slaanesh because it paints sexual extremes in a negative light.

>tfw modern civilization is so degenerate it is unironically defending Slaanesh

The Fall can't come soon enough.

You're wrong.

>in a world where 11 year old girls are taught to twerk as part of a school dance program, 15 year olds have tindr accounts and college aged woman are encouraged to fuck anything that moves with no regard for safety or consequence... THEY ARE LITERALLY GOING TO REMOVE A PILLAR OF THEIR LORE BECAUSE IT'S TOO SEXUAL I SWEAR, PAY NO MIND TO THE STORIES FOCUSED ON IT OR THE NEW MODEL KITS SAYING OTHERWISE

>tfw modern civilization is so degenerate it is unironically defending Slaanesh

It's idiotic at times how much modern media defends unrestrained sexuality.

Like, i was watching "American Gods", and one of the characters was an immigrant black goddess called Bilquis(which may shit on one of the themes in the book being that gods are local, but whatever) who was the Queen of Sheba/various other love deities in the past.

Bitch literally tricks people into devouring her worshipers souls with her vagina to feed her power, either in ritualistic orgies, in the past, or
by hooking up with people in bars or on Tinder in modern times.

Tbh, none of the gods in that show are nice, and they all love human sacrifices as spirit food(except Anubis and Jesus), but this chick is literally a bisexual sexual predator that snuffs people out in weird murder-fucking.

The way the show presents it?
>People fear muh strong, sexually liberated, independent woman of colour because men feel threatened by a queen in power;

Wtf, Bilquis is literally Cio from KSBD when she was Yabalchoath, and the show fucking praises her.
>THEIR LORE BECAUSE IT'S TOO SEXUAL I SWEAR
No, no, they hate it because it says all this kinky weird sex-drugs-and-body-mods is a bad thing.

I'm seriously curious as to what the consequences of Slaneesh actually dying would be.

>dark eldar lose their reason to be batshit crazy tortureporn elves
>1 less chaos god means less fights between the chaos gods -> stronger chaos?
>eldar can start having babies again without fearing they'll be raped for an eternity by the most depraved being in existence
>a ton of eldar souls suddenly free from Slaneesh
>goodbye noise marines, goodbye pink children

I have a really hard time believing this would ever happen but if it did it would probably be the biggest thing to happen in the lore during the time mankind's been around

You know how much everyone wants bridled hedonism. A couple glasses of red wine (and lots of water), a quick attempt at missionary, and asleep by 11. That's what the people crave.

>loving your family and focusing on their growth and prosperity is Nurgle.

>Nurgle
>love

You fell for the memes, user. Nurgle is despair and ruin, which comes so far around that people embrace the nihilism. They believe in nothing, Lebowski; they saw The End and laughed, for those who saw it and wept did not survive.

If we (white male hetero nerds) hated Slaanesh the left would call us sexist, homophobic shitlords for it.

But the minis are purple ladies with their tits out. Nurgle's line comes the closest to actually portraying the horror of the god, but that requires a really talented painter who can go beyond "fat green guy, laughing with some gross red bits spilling out."

Nigger, they're already complaining about SFV's new alternate sports costumes because it doesn't matter if women are under-dressed whores IRL, what matters is not letting low-value white men have access to such women even if they're made of pixels.

>Like, i was watching "American Gods", and one of the characters was an immigrant black goddess called Bilquis(which may shit on one of the themes in the book being that gods are local, but whatever) who was the Queen of Sheba/various other love deities in the past.

The gods aren't local. That's the whole point, the old gods were brought to America in the minds of their followers and then abandoned, because America is poor soil for gods. The new gods have yet to learn this, even though they can see things like the gods of trains and radio decaying.

And there is a strong psychosexual component to Bilquis in the book as well; men are threatened by her, and yet drawn to her, because she controls them body and heart. It's established in both cases by making an innocent man worship her, then sacrificing himself to her (though the book does a better job of it, in that the man's wife/girlfriend calls looking for him and she just says he's not here anymore).

Do any of you faggots have anything to back up your theory that a left wing conspiracy is behind the lack of focus on Slaanesh?

>And there is a strong psychosexual component to Bilquis in the book as well; men are threatened by her, and yet drawn to her, because she controls them body and heart. It's established in both cases by making an innocent man worship her, then sacrificing himself to her (though the book does a better job of it, in that the man's wife/girlfriend calls looking for him and she just says he's not here anymore).

Yeah, i remember that.
Still, Nancy's little rant about her being some innocent strong, independent woman that got dethroned is still kinda retarded.

Woah

The eldar could go back home for one

I'll only accept the permadeath of a chaos god if it's done in a way that's so ridiculous that you can't help but shake your head and go "ok, sure!"

Like Mork and Gork just punch her/him REALLY hard, and that's what does it.

noise marines will just ride with/worship Fulgrim

It's excessive indulgence, not just doing things that Mom and Pop said were naughty. It's indulgence to the point of obsession, of self-obliteration.

who cares, the memes will live on

>>He loved his family to excess

In a Slaaneshi context, that would manifest as the most fucked up, selfish obsession you could imagine.

I hope you know that's not a girl.

Also I think there's only one other pic in lingerie.

Of course they don't. It's the left boogeyman all over again, it hasn't yet left their psyche, never mind the fact that america not only are almost alone in still using the imperial system, they also almost solemnly use a completely different political compass from the rest of the world. The positions they attribute to left and right are all over the place.

Never mind the fact that the AMERICAN right wing are the people that hate sex, culture and poor people. The AMERICAN left wing at least stands intelectually honest behind it's position to just ban everything they don't like (of which sex is not a part, hell, they'd present it as a bad thing you wouldn't engage in things you perceive as sexualy depraved), while the AMERICAN right wing just wants to ban all the other stuff the left forgot, whilst advocating the dissolution of all good and sensical rules in the name of your "freedom" so that they can then buy and lie and cheat their way to ban/subvert it with money.

They are both spawn of satan that deserve nothing but a tortured slow death, but the right hides it better, so all of these pseudo intelectual cucklords are too stupid to realize they are gladly accepting the baited boogeyman and then go on to self mastubatory heights to praise themselves for they clairvoyance as they are being assraped anyways.

And the extreme rights all over the world rejoice, for they are getting free propaganda to use, an entire army of mongoloid keyboard warriors that try to hammer in conotations of "good" and "bad" in relation to left and right that make no sense in the rest of the world.

>Sex becomes, by its nature, morally dangerous… which is only a short hop, skip and jump to things like slut-shaming, homophobia, transphobia.

Goddamn. Fucking. Degenerates.

Their stance is that their primary market is kids with rich parents cause edgy metalheads don't have as much free cash as they used to, so yeah they will totally kill off the god of rape-crabs.

As to if it will stick, given that the community is an infinite echo chamber that still clings onto stuff from the era when space marines were Judge Dredd in power armour, then probably not forever, but expect squat levels of denial for the foreseeable future.

Slaanesh is proof that trannies are Chaos-aligned. That can't fly at nu-GW.

>all this fucking salt about something that isn't even going to happen

They literally just released a book where Slaaneshi characters play a very influential role, and are very obviously degenerate hedonists in all forms when they're present.

It makes no sense for them to create releases and give background (that coincides with what is already established in most respects) and then axe that entire pillar on the grounds of, "muh kid friendly" bullshit - from the company that literally wrote an article making fun of PETA criticizing Space Wolves using fur. Being PC and FAMILY-FRIENDLY isn't their selling point - while they're not trying to be actively offensive, they also handle big-boy concepts like morality, religion, violence, human nature, and survival in a universe so shitty that the hyper-religious Nazis In Space are actually the good guys.

It makes absolutely ZERO financial sense either. What are they going to do with all the molds and existing models if they kill Slaanesh? What are they going to do with all those kits that include Slaaneshi bitz, which is virtually EVERY Chaos model? That's a shitload of investment just to REMOVE something, and it makes no sense whatsoever when both 40K and 30K are huge cash cows that are stronger than they've ever been.

Y'all niggas need to jump off the panic bus and learn basic business sense.

>trannies are Chaos-aligned

But the Blood Angels are Imperial, user.

But in the book she's portrayed as a hideous, vile sexual predator. She's not strong, she's weak-willed for stooping to those levels just to stay alive. Her entire existence is degenerate and pitiful, like so many of the old gods.

>I love my family so much, we're going to go to a talent agent to show him our new family stage performance.

If it was gonna happen, it'd have happened by now. And they CERTAINLY wouldn't have released a SC box just last week

True, but hollywood places much greater emphasis on "social justice" than an author does, which results in things like the mauling of Bilquis' character (among many other things in the book).

It's almost like Slaanesh would be better served by the chaos gods having more depth to them.

God of Excess is far more interesting and variable than "LOLBOOBSJOINCHAOS".

>It's almost like Slaanesh would be better served by the chaos gods having more depth to them.

They actually do have a lot of depth to them for people who actually read the lore.

The problem is that people read 1d4chan, watch TTS, and take 40K memes as gospel without ever actually reading any of the fluff.

Hey I have a similar tattoo, mine is a different design and closer to the middle of my lower back though.

Fulgrim, for all it's faults, did a good job showing Slaaneshi infestation. Everything is fine until you face a hurdle between you and what you want, you overcome the hurdle with some effort, and everything is fine again until the next hurdle.

It's not until someone else comes along and asks why there's all these corpses that the scale becomes apparent, and which point it's too late for takebacks.

Puritanical UK and USA have always taken violence over sex as a vice. As sacrilegious as 40K is/used to be, for many there is a strong Christian root to our moral fiber that is totally cool having kids butcher people in video games but porn is a no-no.

>hey what's with all these bodies
>oh, uh, they just sort of, got in my way?
>so you killed them?
>well, I mean, when you put it like that I sound like the bad guy, it was self defence
>self defence?
>at first sure

It's often fairly deep in the lore though, or fairly far back though.

Visually, which is what hits most people first, there isn't a lot of the other aspects like search for perfection in something, or even just like gluttony and stuff (cause nurgle is the fat one).

So a tramp stamp

I thought the point of the Chaos gods was that they were virtues taken to absurd extremes?
Khorne was Courage and martial valor
Tzeentch was Knowledge and the ability to change
Nurgle was supposed to be perserverance maybe? Was never sure about him
Slaanesh was passion.

Nurgle is joy and despair. He literally feeds on hopelessness, turning it into a deranged sense of acceptance and happiness. He also took your physical and mental pain away.

He's a swell guy.

Source: Liber Chaotica

I literally know this person. You're a fucking idiot.

>I hope you know that's not a girl.
Even better.
>Also I think there's only one other pic in lingerie.
Gib nao.

>15 year olds have tindr accounts
Guess I gotta get a tinder.

stop lusting after cultists, user. They all need to be rounded up and purged for the glory of mankind.

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see

I'd tell you to reconsider but from those trips the Dark Prince approves so try not to get caught I guess.

>Nurgle gives people a false sense of comfort and causes them to not reach for anything

Literally the worst of the ruinous powers.

I get what you're saying, but war, disease, and the like don't directly affect the general public of most first world countries. Many people in first world countries either deal with addiction themselves or have close loved ones that do.

War is always there, but also such a far off thing.

Not that I agree with that being a reason to remove Slaanesh.

Nice get.

Wouldn't the left have a lot more concerns about The imperium?

Despair is Love, user, just as surely as Death is Life. And remenber, Nihilism does not always mean Defeatism.

All life is suffering. You have not lived a single instant of your life that wasn't stolen from whatever you ate. This whole cursed world turns on pain, but one day even it will end; the Gods will consume everything. A kalpa will pass, the wheel will turn, and a new universe of suffering will be born.

But, there is freedom in suffering. One who will die lives his last days immortal; nothing can take his life, for he knows it is no longer his. Rejoice, for you are dying! Love your rival; your hatred is a drop in the ocean of suffering that is theirs. Share your food; it will feed the maggots one day anyway! Show "mercy" to your enemy; death will only hasten the inevitable.

Let love be a part of everything you do, for Nurgle loves you! He sees that life is suffering, and he pitties us poor living things. He comforts us in our suffering, and ends it when the time is right.

Nurgle is Love. Nurgle is Life.

Here you go, user. Be glad I have a friend who likes traps.

reverse image search tells me that it's a (apparently cancerous) namefag from /lgbt/.
So yeah, it's not a girl.

I'm a little concerned that a trap besides myself also got a mark of Slaanesh tattoo.
It's cool that there are others though.

Would totally smash, don't care what parts they have. Slaanesh isn't going anywhere, and not changing. SC coming out, and lots of mention of Slaanesh in the new books.