Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

I picked daemons because it was underrepresented at my LGS and I read a few years of backlogged blog posts on daemons40k about them being anti-meta, which was pretty true for a while since you could just play your own random shit while ignoring the enemy. Was initially miffed at the loss of all of the complexity and the pigeon holing into brimstone DP spam in 8th but it should get fixed with codexes (pls come soon)

my favorite kind of villains are the most depraved. I mean their villains they are not meant to be kinda bad right? I play both dark eldar and slaanesh and I find that I play them as I always gravitate towards the more fucked up and irredeemable races in fantasy. the dark eldar I love simply for their sadism and the levels of fucked up they can be. I play slaanesh because I love a great fall from grace story and fulgrims legion was the best. I also love mad artist villains who tried far far to hard to get better. I find I relate to slaanesh obsessiveness and the Emperor's children. losing all your sanity and becoming what you hate is such a great drama (I also love drama and the plight of the EC and Dark eldar are the best). I also like the dark eldar wyches and slaanesh daemonettes since uh perverted dominatrix women are great. finally slaanesh has a great taste in fetishes!

shitty zit-wizards

Reposting points changes from Index to Codex:SM

Non primaris Lieutenant = 60pts base, primaris version 70pts base
Big bobby G same points cost, stormravens also
Hunter tank is -30pts, Marneus Calgar -50 pts, Ironclad dred -40pts, Chaplain Cassius -40pts. Emperors Champion -33pts, Sergeant Chronus -23pts, Captain in Terminator armour -17pts, Sergeant Telion +(plus)14pts, Librarian -2 pts, Chapter Champion -5pts, Sternguard -1pt (special-issue boltgun got reduced by 1point) Bikes -6pts, Attack bike -10pts, Inceptors -15pts, Land Speeder -10pts, Drop pods -10pts, Land Speeder Storm -10pts
Primaris Hellblasters possibly 2 points more expensive, unsure on this one.

Zitty Shitwizards sounds better.

>Non primaris Lieutenant
any word on what kind of options they have?

Source: youtube.com/watch?v=6DqjcNd9mOY
Nah he didn't mention.

I think it was recently hinted on GW facebook that Daemons aren't getting a Codex for quite awhile.

Someone asked if they would even need the Chaos Index if the CSM Codex is coming out soon with Legion rules, and he basically said if you still want to play Daemons or Renegade Knights that index will be useful for a long time.

Pretty much confirms the theory that they're going to hold off on updating at least one major Faction per index for as long as possible to keep selling them. That's basically the nail in the coffin for blissfully delusional Tau players who think they're getting a Codex this year.

>facebook

Those guys are just a social media team, they don't know anything more than we do.

They know a bit more than we do, sometimes. They do literally work in the same building as the developers.

Poor GSC. At least they'll get some new stuff when IG gets their codex.

that's a shame. Still, nice to not have that unit locked behind primaris I guess

They can see stuff that isn't out for months, they've talked about it in the stream before.

I mean, all I really want is for them to make it so that you can only get brimstone or blues from summon and splitting so people stop their bitching about muh waac when I tell them that I did indeed take my single troop option

Yeah GSC are probably at the ass-end of the list unless they roll them into the Tyranid Codex like back in 2nd edition. But GW isn't going to bank on GSC alone selling Index Xenos 2, they put Tau in so they'd have a popular army to force sales of that book after Nids and Orks got updated, who are at the top of the list of old books.

Dubs decides what army I collect. I only have skaven right now, but I'm getting sick of GW teasing AOS players.

Play the army with the models you like most.

Orks!

Eat shit lesser races!!

Eldar

This would also be nice because Pinks seem fairly lackluster right now in comparison. They are five times as expensive as brimstones in order to get what amounts to a lasgun.

Winner winner chicken dinner

Orks again!

How long before we get third party Primaris support, you think?

Wew, that string of blessed numericals.

Squats

>mfw

LMAO they made Death Korps of Krieg into a real thing XD

Inquisition

Pauldrons and helmets are already compatible with oldmarine stuff, what third party support are you even looking for?

They've got access to all the gear normal characters can get. They can get jump packs too.

Gretchin's Revolutionary Committee

Obviously the stuff that isn't. Backpacks are as well, been considering some low-profile packs for a RG successor list.

But arms and torsos of various styles would be interesting.

So which army do you actually like, user?

so close

I want my new Tau models :sadface:

This is literally only ever the correct answer and anyone who says otherwise is a tremendous fag

>that 9" deep strike shenanigans

this

well now that we have Chadmarines, don't normal marines become squats?

you've just opened yourself up to a shitstorm user

Somebody show this man the most badass models of their army to help him along!

Well I hop you get them, Taubro.

But I hope they are xenos allies for you and not new big suits.

Opinions?

Before anyone asks about the Scions: Because I have the old Stormtrooper models that have been begging me to field them for a long time.

>Squad 1 vomits dakka twice a turn with AoF
>Canoness hunkers down with Squad 1, providing them rerolls.
>Immolator transports Squad 2 to react to enemy
>Squad 3 is auxiliary
>Scions are response team

As another Tau player, I hope this as well. We've got plenty of suits, give us some more diversity. There's plenty of fluff to draw upon for new auxiliaries to flesh out our roster.

funny joke, but normal marines are still not shorter than most other stuff like guardsmen, tau, cultists, etc.

Dark eldar it is then. I think a bit of cum came out when I saw the scourges

Even if Tau are pushed forward for some inscrutable bad-business reason this year they would then fall into a rules-only release slot. New models for Tau are a long way away, their last update was way too recent.

All signs point towards Orks being the first Xenos race to get model updates in 8th. Tyranids will probably be a rules-only release.

Good lad!

Definitely would not allow that. Faggot behavior.

>All signs point towards Orks being the first Xenos race to get model updates in 8th.

>Lesser
>Still made of weak flesh

Wow, they're part of the squat brigade that all looks like manlets next to the new Primaris Marines and Cult Legion Marines, congrats!

dark eldar have the best women

What's a good starting buy list? Lots of spikey sky boats?

I love the Dark Eldar's whole 'fey folk' thing. Dark fairy tales work in 40k.

Best of luck.

Remember you can field Eldar with them as well now.

It's fully within the rules, not much to not allow

eldar are superior to humans in every way i'm pretty sure that a captured farseer would just fry everyone's brains

>2 models hanging off the table edge
No, it's not fully within the rules. Redeploy.

Rub their ears they'll immediately go Asanagi-mode.

>being this autistic

>craftworld bitch elves

Don't sway him from the true path

They're on the table. The mat is scrunched and no one fixes it. Try again

Shit is so cash. You have any Fey like lore for your dudes?

what a predictable and shallowminded response that makes you seem insecure in your height.

I just want new players to know their options.

>Mork's (or possibly Gork's) seal of approval

>i'm pretty sure that a captured farseer would just fry everyone's brains
You say this like the Imperium doesn't have an entire sub-faction of Witchhunting specialists in the Inquisition which have to deal with powerful rogue psykers on a daily basis in order to keep feeding the Golden Throne, including anti-psychic tech, blanks, Culexus assassins, and so forth.

Why are you taking the Deathwing Champion? Could use those points elsewhere (should ask is this power or points? I guess points from your 1999 at the end)

Elites look fine, stick Belial and apothocary behind your knights, find a bottle neck the enemy will come at and you can hold even against a Primach.

Storm shield might be a bit much for your librarian, he gets 5++ anyway and I doubt you'll ever move him infront of your men so most wont be able to fire on him anyway. Useful if you want him in combat I guess but most of the game he's going to be smiting or destroying the enemies rolls.

Troops look fine, could maybe make a 10man squad from the points you save from the Champion - I really see no point in him or the Ravenwing one other than cheap HQ if you need him, maybe I'm missing something and you have a plan?

heavy support is perfect, maybe a combi-plasma or grav on your sergeant, cheaper anyway and gives you extra shots/choice.

overall it will be fun I think. Much more options than my 2000 point Deathwing I'm using tomorrow.

>Getting mad because you're cheating
I guess you've been cucking your friends the whole time then. Cheat away I don't care, just know if you kill anything with that unit, you've forfeited and didn't really win.

I have an Eldar army, should I get Reavers or Windriders?

They have similar costs but Reavers have much better special rules imo.

No, I should come up with some. I only have a raider, 10 kabalites and three reavers so far.

lovely model user
>my succubus would roughly bang/10

this

The Kabals have truly turned out today.
GLORY TO THE DARK CITY!!

Dark Angels.

I heard Deathwatch Marines are slightly bigger than normal Marines. How do they compare to Chad Marines? I've been thinking of adding a Marine army to my collection, but I don't really like them outside of Deathwatch.

Threadly reminder that Tau are objectively worse at combat than Humans.

When a Fire Warrior is genetically engineered, trained for war since birth and sent through non-stop combat simulations, brainwashed and conditioned to supreme loyalty, and given equipment that helps aim for them, you get a fire warrior.

When a human is genetically engineered, trained for war since birth and sent through non-stop combat simulations, brainwashed and conditioned to supreme loyalty, and given equipment that helps aim for them, you get an Imperial Assassin.

I hope Yvraine opens another daemon portal in your shite city.

>lovely model
It's not mine. I saw it in /wip/ and I don't remember seeing any updates.

Dude don't be Gay about things, they rte just the murder rape elves of your nightmares. If you want fairy tales go do warmachine or malifuex

Good start up I've actually been trying to build up my kabals movements through the games I play. Participating in Fate of Konor and my first ever match was against chad marines then Khorne deamons/chaos marines.

>slopmaw maggotmancer
>mfw

Nigga please dark eldar are Fey as fuck.

Where does GW say that old models use the index if their rules aren't in the codex?

Me too so we can close that bitch in there this go round! Vect has a plan that dosent involve making a new slannesh to get bored and hungry later.

as a eldar/dark eldar player would my kabal of the black heart boys be cool with teaming up with yvraine? I know lilith did and in my canon for my archon she is his mother

Me too.

>doesn't know how dark actual fairy tales were
>doesn't know phil kelly's intentional design goals when writing the dark eldar in 5th edition was to base them off the fey

Will Custodes get an HQ for 40k? Since they don't have one now, any advice for houseruling one?