>what are you playing? Affinity, because I forgot my Burn deck in my brother's car at GP Toronto >what are you hating? Grixis Death's Shadow >what's your favorite shitbrew? Abzan Reanimator
Alexander Bell
Eldrazi tron
Ryder Campbell
Splashing black into 8whack for a Night's Whisper, Pain's Reward and Read the Bones draw engine? y/n
James Scott
Recently played against a As Foretold Balance deck that can kill all lands on turn 3, if you're into that. There's some lists online, but the one I played against ran 4 Gideon of the Trial and Remand to stall the game. Packs a pretty decent punch if you don't know what you're up against.
A spin on Merfolk. I feel that Merfolk is primed to be really good in our area since it has turned into midrangey mardu, tron decks, and cheap burn alternatives
Jonathan Moore
I really don't understand why you went and took a good deck and then made it bad.
Jacob Ortiz
>adding a bunch of durdly card draw to the most balls out aggro deck in Modern n, very n
John Edwards
So I can compete on your level.
Easton Butler
Nice
Adrian Gray
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Angel Gomez
I keep running out of gas when my opponent reaches around 5-7 life and then It's all up to if I topdeck burn spells. I need a way to draw more gas.
Jaxson Nguyen
Tormenting thoughts/cathartic reunion?
Landon Harris
And three mana black spells you think is the way to fix it? The deck already needs a ton of things to go right in hand. What you're suggesting contributes nothing to the strength of the deck which is perfect opening hands and blazing fast lethal.
Jonathan Campbell
Gifts Storm with quickens to combo of insta speed on my opponents turn.
Yes/No?
David Collins
No, it's not worth because you need 1 more mana, meaning that you are effectively comboing off 1 turn later.
Anthony Bailey
I like quicken in the storm mirror but in a regular game I'm not really a fan.
Adrian Wood
why don't you play Hearthstone?
Lincoln Perry
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Jonathan Bell
It's bad until you consider you really don't need the lands past two or three mana. Once you hit three you just pay a red to get 6 more damage in your hand.
Jason Jones
It's a completely different less fun game where you have to rely on rng and grinding to build whereas you can go on a website and order all the cards you want for a determined price
Brayden Price
Relinking this in case someone else has some thoughts on it. Gunn try and fit in some Sorins, the 4 drop one that makes vampires.
is there a discord server for this general at all? if so someone should post an invite here
Samuel Foster
Kill yourself
Jackson Powell
r*deposters please leave
Austin Martinez
the fuck is discord?
Jose Wood
The new cancer chat service that is sweeping Veeky Forums.
Nolan Ortiz
Why aren't non-creatures allowed to have cards with just flavor text?
Creatures can have card text, flavor text, or both.
Non-creatures can only have card text, or both. They can't just have flavor.
Is there some conspiracy by WotC to show blatant favoritism to creatures?
Dominic Foster
nice digits.
so basically people are just skyping instead of posting on Veeky Forums? why the fuck would you link that? might as well link reddit or mtgsalvation
Thomas Richardson
wait... wut?
Ryan Stewart
Fracturing discussion into more communities does nothing unless the chat medium adds something to discussion. And it doesn't add anything.
It's just easier if we sit here and flame each other through text because then at least we can quote each other for our bullshit.
William Gutierrez
To be fair, we do have the full art non-creatures like damnation, cryptic, negate, etc. that don't explain what the spell does. So I'm sure if wizards wanted to, they could print something like lightning bolt with just flavour text.
Charles Clark
this isn't pre-lorwyn WotC, guys. They aren't going to print shit like pic related again. It's a damn shame
Colton Walker
I think they were a bad idea. People are going to play these against new players and it's just going to piss them off when there is no text.
Sure, there's a reasonable expectation that people memorize some cards, but it's not reasonable to expect people to expect to have to just take everything your opponent tells you not because of malicious intent, but because people are dogshit at explaining things. Not to mention there are people out there who would just roll their eyes when people ask what a card does or if not them then some other asshole in the room.
I'm against this fucking hug box the game has become, but I don't approve of giving dipshits in this game the opportunity to act all smug with their textless cards.
Evan Sullivan
I agree they probably weren't the best idea, but I want them if only so I can have an entire burn deck of textless promos
Adam Sanders
So you want a vanilla noncreature spell? Without any text and all flavor text?
Hudson Cooper
>Textless Boros Charm >people get even saltier when you use the indestructible mode I don't even own any Textless cards and i want this.
Easton Young
Is there even a playable card in the new set? I've been trying out Nimble Obstructionist, but it just isn't good
Daniel Lewis
I've done it with Cryptic Command. It's stupid and you shouldn't be allowed to do it. It should be considered in extremely poor taste to play textless Cryptic Command outside a GP or higher rated event.
After I repeatedly cast Cryptic against a person I realized what a shitty situation it must be to have that card cast against you especially when it's textless. I put the promo away and got some regular ones - of course, this was during a time when Cryptic was cheap. Nowadays with the price of shit if I had to buy fresh Cryptics I would not do it and make people deal with it.
Oliver Fisher
Even if it just force spiked the ability when it entered it'd be so much better. It's like they want to print something at Clique's powerlevel but can't do it without going overboard and printing Gurmag Angler and Siege Rhino stupid powerlevel shit.
Grayson Watson
The annoying thing about the Cryptic one is I'm pretty sure that the order of the resolving text can actually be relevant so resorting to oracle text happens way more than any other card.
Jason Moore
On the one hand, everyone literally has Oracle text in their pockets or you can ask a judge for Oracle text. So it shouldn't be that big of an issue. On the other hand, I've been the guy who didn't remember Cryptic could tap creatures and got a little angry about it.
Nolan Cox
Just because you can reference Gatherer doesn't mean you should create situations where it is almost necessary to and waste everyone's time doing it.
There are better ways to teach new players to call for judges. And wasting a judge's time is a habit I want to stab people for - it's like they can't fucking think for themselves or they use the judge as an excuse to do no thinking.
There's this faggot in my community and he ALWAYS without fail calls a judge the moment the judge starts the event; and he fucking sucks at the game and refuses to learn and calls the judge for trivial bullshit like forgetting to give someone priority before declaring attackers. Angle shooting for shit like warnings and stuff at low rated events and perpetuating the idea that the judge is there to babysit everyone.
David Carter
Dude, I was just saying I see both sides. Textless cards are both cool, and annoying.
> And wasting a judge's time is a habit I want to stab people for Asking for Oracle text is not wasting a judge's time. A judge is there to oversee an event, and that is one of their job duties. 99% of judges would rather you ask them if you have any question concerning rules than you play like you know everything. Asking a judge for a sandwich is wasting their time; asking them for Oracle text on a textless Cryptic Command is not.
Isaiah Roberts
Sorry, I get it.
Levi Williams
>discord is cancer
nice try sperglord, its only cancer for those who can't talk to other human beings
Austin Garcia
Having a discord for a general encourages tripfaggotry and drama. Only reddit-tier attention whores would actually want something like that for a thread like this.
Jonathan Murphy
but isn't thgat what were doing right now?
Ryan Murphy
>trying to make new friends who are like-minded and have similar interests and having a convenient place to talk to them is for reddit-tier attentionwhores
nice meme
Hunter Ortiz
>wanting to become friends with the subhumans who browse this site lol no thanks
Cooper Ramirez
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Sebastian Cook
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Carson Howard
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Matthew Brown
Is there only one BW manland? the 2/3 lifelinker?
Ayden Torres
you could use dread statuary
Bentley Howard
Would sooner use Blinkmoth
Cameron Green
Spawning Pool, Forbidding Watchtower, and Mutavault also exist.
Isaiah Rivera
I've been away from Modern quite a while, but it seems like Eldrazi Tron had a (small) drop in popularity, the last weeks. Any reason for this drop?
Nathan Perry
I did, until i bought into mtgo. Hearthstone is a fun game, bit I prefer magic
Jaxon Long
basically it didn't keep placing in paper or higher level online tournaments, so peopled started playing something else.
Xavier Campbell
i played this in atarka red. 100% gas.
>playing mono white d&t >hating lingering souls until my shop gets a pair of orzhov pontiffs for me to buy
>shitbrew uw taxes with sky hussar. i WILL make this work. sky hussar and thraben inspector: more gas than the hindenberg.
Thomas Adams
Thinking of switching from legacy to modern, is it true that dredge is dead or simply neutered with grave troll ban?
Colton Stewart
The rumors of dredges demise were greatly exaggerated. But srsly its pretty viable but since people pack graveyard hate for GDS you're at a small disadvantage
Owen Edwards
That's more than a small disadvantage though
Jaxon Morales
Kinda want to make a shitty tron deck with the new bolas. I figure I'll need oath of nissa, sylvan scrying, and the usual tron artifacts and lands. Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
Grayson Morgan
>Favorite land
Jordan Cruz
look up tron superfriends, they t1 oath of nissa then start loading up on planeswalkers
Ryan Walker
Oh shit, thanks user
Aiden Moore
>uw taxes with sky hussar. i WILL make this work. >sky hussar and thraben inspector: more gas than the hindenberg Sky Hussar is fun, I've been thinking of running one in the Bant Martyr-Proc list I'm working on.
Nolan Hall
It's still really good, especially if your meta isn't prepared for it. If you have the money or the cards I'd have a second deck laying around once your meta has adjusted to dredge.
Ian Kelly
Should I wait till after the recent bans or start building affinity now?
Thomas Taylor
Affinity will always be a deck in some capacity. It's like dredge, in that it waxes and wanes with the amount of sideboard hate people pack. Go for it.
Ethan Wilson
Lit. I'm hoping to jump between affinity and dredge depending on the meta changes.
Gavin Young
Maybe one or two of these.
Kayden Wood
Affinity will always be around and none of its important cards will get a reprint or banning anytime soon so it's never a bad time to buy. You better get the right ravager art though.
Brandon Sullivan
predictions for b&r: thoughtseize is banned
Easton Sullivan
FREE SFM
Logan Robinson
predictions for the b&r: nothing banned or shadow/something from Etron banned.
Jordan White
god I wish the tron lands would get banned fucking fast mana bullshit needs to be aborted
Bentley Hernandez
Why doesn't grixis DS run temur battle rage, claim//fame, or apostle's blessing?
Caleb Hall
Tron wasn't nearly as bullshit before the Nudrazi and Ugin were printed. They got some new toys so we should get something new to fuck with them to discourage retarded coinflip magic.
>inb4 crumbling dust
t. Abzan player
Benjamin Martin
>TBR/Blessing because it isn't a combo deck.
claim/fame would be OK if you can find room for it.
Nolan King
DS used to back when it was Suicide Zoo with Probe, Become Immense, Swiftspear. Now it cares less about early kills and more about disruption
Juan Ward
How to nerf eldrazi and maybe even shadow
1W Enchantment Each player chooses a basic land type. Nonbasic lands are the chosen type.
Ignore the syntax error shit
Edit: thanks for the gold
Gabriel Wright
well we either need better hate printed (unlikely) or we need a ban
Jordan Sanders
>shitting on blood moon Fuck off.
Nathaniel Bennett
Note that wastes isn't a basic land type. Also, this really shouldn't be printed. What Modern needs is decent /interactive/ things to deal with lands, not more Stony/RIP/Blood Moon style slam and win mega-hosers
Christian Harris
I see, so making a more agressive DS shadow in grixis would actually be worse than whats used now?
Nicholas Rivera
They can choose Swamp and use their forest to cast Abrupt Decay.
It is kinda shitawful though, you are correct there, but basically make an enchantment that makes lands tap for a single colored mana and not (((3)))
Jose Jenkins
Probably, you end up with a lot of moving pieces that do nothing on their own. Plus your upside of killing people quicker probably isn't better than just playing Burn
David Brooks
>basically make an enchantment that makes lands tap for a single colored mana and not (((3))) Why not literally have an enchantment that does that instead then?
Michael Torres
you know what isn't on the reserved list?
Nathan Cruz
REPRINT ON MTGO WHEN
Parker Wilson
Was there ever a more disappointing creature than this one? It got an awesome visual design, yet for all its hype it goes down like a chump in both crunch *and* fluff.
Evan Clark
Decided to build a Jund deck and was just looking at lists for it - has traditional Jund died off in favour of Death's Shadow? I was about to pick up 3 Lilianas and a playset of Bobs when I noticed that, and I'm wondering about it as it seems like Bobs aren't run anymore, and Lili is a 2 of in a lot of Death's Shadow decks.
Ryder James
Don't go Oath of Nissa, keep your Ancient Stirrings Just remove whatever, add Nicol Bolas and That's what I did, it works great You can't tutor Bolas but you can tutor Cataracts
Connor Young
If you guys really wanted to see Tron ban, then just start ramming it into any deck. Almost every deck could make room for at least a trinity
Thomas Wood
Hey /tg If I wanna make a sultai zombie tribal deck, should I go aggrocontrol/midrange, or dredge maximum fuckery?
Logan Powell
What do you think, user? If what you want is an actual competitive deck, than fuck tribal. Just take dredge, season for flavour and meta and have at it. Seems like a stupid question, because it answers itself