Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Night Lords Edition

Previously:>Konor Campaign: Chaos STILL BTFO edition
konor.warhammer40000.com/

>Check your local store's contribution
warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/

>New Duncans
youtube.com/watch?v=fCybi5r71RE&t

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>GW FAQ (1.1):
warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/

>FW FAQ (1.1):
warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Latest news :
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>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in pdf(and epub), SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>novels here
mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg

>Other megas
mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA (no 8e stuff here)

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-user doing Abaddon's work)
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

Konor will not fall

Second for da Orks!

Konor will be looted!

Imagine being despised by your own primarch.

WE COME FOR YOU

I've stuck to Power Levels for now, but am I right in calculating a Captain in Gravis Armour with Boltstorm Gauntlet and Master Crafted Powersword as costing 137pts?

I'm guessing there's no army builder for this yet?

Should I play emperor's children, crimson slaughter or black heart kabal?

They're all so cool.

Black Heart Kabal.

Emperor's Children but wait for their release.

Chaos btfo

Whats going on in this pic?

The fuck language do you speak then?

Edited porn.

Yes, kill yourself

Hey /40kg/, I just managed to pick up 3 Imperial Knights, and am looking to run them in a local 75PL tournament, I'm set on running 1 of them as a Knight Crusader (27 PL), but i'm lost on the other two, Any suggestions on what to run them as/what wargear to take? Thanks a bunch!

That marine is helping the Sister with her workout. Why? What did you think was going on?

Anyone got a link?

That SOB is beautiful.

No, no, no.
Konor was supposed to be a goner.
IT'S NOT FAIR

What's the original? Looks hot.

>That Cat face

No it isn't.

He's lying. It's an original done by Yangzhey.

Anyone in the Albany, NY or western MA area up for a small (like 500 points) game this weekend?

Got a link? Son, they've got a whole unbroken chain.

Hang out around actual fucking human beings. If you get buttmad over the way people talk, then a social hobby like wargaming may either not be for you or you're so deprived of human contact that everything about other people pisses you off.

what

He specializes in beautiful Sororitas.

Anyone have a pdf of the 8th edition Space Marine Codex yet?

Well at least Death Guard are getting a new set of miniatures which are tall and detailed.

Space Marines are stuck with stumpy manlets.

>LE SAMEFACE
There got that out of the way.

I like his Eldar. Anyway, if I was rich I'd pay him to commission something lewd. He's done nudity before; but I dunno if he'd be up for anything other than tasteful.

Yeah, kill yourself. Like, literally go and jump off a cliff.
If you bring that to a 75PL event you will instantly and forever be "the cunt that nobody should ever play against unless they're forced to" and yet you'll also lose every single objective-based mission.

You'll probably get the ebook on Saturday.

>I want PDF!

Get a better tablet.

>I don't have a tablet!

Well then an Ebook or PDF is a useless mid-game reference for you.

>anyone have a pdf of something that hasnt been released yet

Fucking idiot.

yeesh, are they really that bad? I managed to pick them up in a really big MTG>Warhammer trade, and were the only thing i could feasibly assemble/get together in 3~4 days

>YALL HERE FOR DEM WOR-HAMMURS? I RECKON YOU'D BE IN FOR A SWELL TIME WITH THIS GAYME!

Protip. Accents are different all over the world and in different countries.

I’ve always wanted to do a Ordo Hereticus Inquisition army after first seeing pic related but I’m not sure what models to get exactly. So far I’ve got Greyfax and two squads of Tempestus Scions to use as inq stormtroopers. I was thinking rhinos for transport but I have no idea what else I would need. I only really want a small force of about 1k points or so.

FUCKING
THIS

If it's PL, then Knights can only brought if your opponent agrees to it. The only time I've seen anyone run a knight in a PL game is when it's some sort of themed mission like a last desperate defence or something like that.

>MTG player
Figures.

To be fair, power level is the powergamer format.

>late night Veeky Forums
>shitposters start coming in
Aight, see ya later, wait for the American and Australian hours to end.

Compared to most of my countrymen my English is excellent, which is why I study the language at university, thank you very much.

And I still stand by that. If your people skills are so atrocious that you get angry listening to other people speak a language the "wrong way" then you need to spend more time around actual human beings or hole yourself up and play a less social hobby.

>yeesh, are they really that bad?
It's an extremely skewed list and not terribly fun to play against if you aren't ready for it. That said it's not even the most powerful list. Depending on how competitive your local meta is it may be perfectly fine.

What level paintjob is this?

1 being complete amateur who can't into thinning, 10 being Golden Daemon winner.

Had a tough time against a Space Marine list with my Orks the other day, and he didn't even have chapter tactics.

Mine was a hodepodge of the normal units that I just like to play:

1750 - 1 Battalion

Warboss w/PK and Kustom Shoota
Weirdboy w/Da Jump

30 boyz w/slugga (also nob w/PK)
20 boyz w/shootas (also 2 w/ Rokkits and nob w/Kustom Shoota)
10 Gretchin

Painboy w/Orderly
5 Nobz w/2 PKs and 3 Big Choppas
3 Meganobz w/1 Combi-Scorcha

10 Stormboyz (also Nob w/PK)

Dakkajet w/6 Supa Shootas

Def Dread w/1 Big Shoota and 1 Scorcha
Battlewagon w/Kannon and 4 Big Shootas
Mek Gun w/Kustom Mega-Kannon

2 Trukks w/Big Shootas and Wreckin' Balls

Shoota Boyz went in the Battlewagon

I don't remember exactly, but he had something like:

1750 - I think a Vanguard and a Battalion

Captain on Bike w/Power Fist
Librarian on Bike w/Power Sword and Strength of Heroes and Warp Time
Lieutenant w/Assault Bolter

5 Tac Marines w/Metlagun
5 Tac Marines w/Plasmagun
5 Tac Marines w/Grav Canon

?Sicarian? (I think that's what it's called)
Contemptor Dread w/Assault Cannon and Storm Bolter

5? man Bike Sqaud (I think, might have been 6) and w/Grav Gun and Sarge w/Power Axe

6 Devastators w/2 Las and 2 Missiles

Razorback w/Heavy Bolter
Razorback w/Assault Cannon
Rhino


Can't really speak for him but I think we both had a good time, but I can't help but wish my Boyz had performed a bit better. I was able to surprise him by jumping my 30 boyz unit into his backline and charging his Captain and Librarian but I wasn't able to get many attacks off and the Librarian lived on 1 wound with the Cap taking no damage. My Dakkajet was almost destroyed turn 1 and then took 3 wounds off of a Razorback before dying. All in all I had a hard time concentrating any force onto his side of the board while he was able to pick off my stuff one at a time. I was also rolling pretty poorly that game, but I don't want to that at fault for everything. I guess it didn't help that it was the Hammer and Anvil.

A 6 I'd say. It would be a 7 if he hadn't bothered doing (and botching) the object source lighting.

Like a 4-5? Neatly done, but just basecoating, washes and dry brushing. Little in the way of highlights.

Anyone seeing a turn in Chaos's luck at any point or is it just a foregone conclusion?

That might have been the intent, but it has become the "lets have fun with plastic soldiers" format, and it's all the better because of that. 30PL could be a fuck ton of plasma, but it can also be a mix of units with risky moves and do or die assaults.

I think it's in Xenos's hands to rescue Chaos.

I think the script adds a point, though.

What is the least model count army! GK? Deathguard?
By the way how does playing these two armies feel?

>Veterans are Elite choices
>Tempestus Scions are Troop choices

Literally why. This is like Army Rangers being considered more elite than SFOD-D, it's fucking stupid.

There's been a slight pushback, but nothing significant. Praxmia Skyport might become a 50/50 split, but I don't think it'll fall over to chaos, at least not for any significant amount of time, since it's worldwide.

Oops, just remembered they were Veteran Bikers. Wondered why he was short an Elite choice.

Imperial Knights. If you mean infantry then a Termy heavy GK list or Battlesuit only Tau list.

The faction with the lowest model count is Imperial Knights, which I understand are very powerful in powerfaggot levels.

Not really getting the 40k Grand Alliances.

What links Orkz, Tau and Tyranids to ally together?

I get Chaos and the Imperium, though I don't get why Imperial Guard can't ally with Space Marines but can with Custodes.

Titan legions followed by kmoghts followed by GK followed by deathwing

Scions are supposed to be their own army, Veterans are supposed to be the Elite of normal guard units. Yes, it is stupid, but I at least see the idea they had when doing it.

Technically? Knights. If we're talking least model count that people actually play against, then Grey Knights with lots of Paladins, Dreadnoughts and Dreadknights or a Tyranid Monster Mash.

Thousand Sons can be quite low model count if you don't wanna take Tzaangors.

If you really want to see Power Level abuse, make an ork list filled with nobs with power klawz

How to arm Rievers?

I'm finding I just can't choose their loadout

If I was playing Xenos right now, I'd do nothing but challenge Imperiumfags.

Gotta make the contest a little more interesting than this.

GK are very low count as are "Wraith host" eldar. It takes a bit to kill them but you feel every single death, kinda makes you appreciate their sacrifice when they have to do something crazy but you will feel like a fool if you let them die due to reckless tactics.

my guess is that scions have a lot of training time but comparatively little combat experience whereas vetarans are pure combat experience.

It does not work like that. Factions have keyword. If they sharw the keyword rhey can be in the same army. Orks have keyword ork. No one else has jeyword ork.

Nothing, which is why they don't. You got meme'd. The Grand Alliance thing was a ruse. The only reason Xenos are grouped together for the campaign is because they're all irrelevant for it, so GW wasn't going to bother splitting them apart.

That means that the majority of your country can barely speak the language, proving him right.

What did Lion think of the Dark Angels? I know he didnt really get on with his brothers except Sanguinius and Russ by the end but other than that he was a bit of loner. What was he like with his legion?

>Also NO good Lion art work.

Oh cool, counts as Reivers!

So why are they in the same battle tome?

No, power level was -intended- to be the casual format, but at least in my area people powergame and minmax like -nuts- the minute they don't need to track individual upgrades anymore. And my meta is fairly casual in points games.

Chaos and Imperium have Grand Alliances, Xenos don't.

Eldar, Deldar and Harlies are together. GSC and Nids are together.

Necrons, Orks and Tau are separate from everyone.

>One side of the campaign has 8 factions worth of players
>the other side has 2

Gee wow why is one side losing?

Because its a stop gap until the codices come out.

The script is awful. There's way too much space between the lines and it's too thick.

I want duncan to talk endlessly about painting while I paint, I've run out of fresh duncan :(

Magnets, also deepstrike Bolter boys for objectives shenanigans is good

>in my area people powergame and minmax like -nuts- the minute they don't need to track individual upgrades anymore.
Move to a better area.

Because 5 is easier to produce than 10+, and they are stopgap indexes.

Codices are still around too.

Chaos has the entire Xenos range at their fingertips if they play their cards right.

Treating Xenos players with respect and with some appreciation might just get them to help you win.

t. Orkfag, just kiss my ass Chaos and I'll assign some points your way.

LeL anyone can count a victory for chaos

So,never

>Tfw xenos fags have accepted their cucking and accept becoming NPCs

I will be fighting whoever is winning currently, regardless.

Well, I think the COD loadout is better than the carbine, because a) they have an easy time getting into melee and b) using the Shock Grenade is less counter-intuitive than having to move a unit with 24" range up to within 6" for it.

The choice between Grav-Chute and Grappling Hook comes down to whether you want something that is just decent and reliable (Chute) or something with higher risk and higher reward, namely the chance of either appearing within grenade range or appearing completely stranded.

>Chaos has the entire Xenos range at their fingertips if they play their cards right.
>Treating Xenos players with respect and with some appreciation might just get them to help you win.
>chaosfags
>ever treating xenos with respect.

>I'd do nothing but challenge Imperiumfags.
You don't have to battle Imperials for Chaos to get points. You can just play against Death Guard and give the points to Chaos no matter who wins. That's why Imperium, the most played faction by far, is guaranteed to win.

Keep fighting the good fight user!
Nothing is more boring than a one-sided victory.
>There might even be novels and actual lore tied in to the result.

Xenos wins generally seem to be taking points from the Imperium, at least as far as a few minutes of tracker watching indicates.

You could have just said you won't be fighting for chaos

RIP me. Guess i'll see if I can get nab a pickup game

Nah, it's about evenly split. It leans a bit towards the chaos side, but it's certainly not anything major one way or the other

Chaosfags and respect..........

Actually it doesn't. In Germany, every pupil is requires to learn English from Year 1 (6 years old) until at least Year 10 (15 years old). Nine years of learning a language qualifies as more than "can barely speak the language", I'd say.

Can people convince me to play an established chapter? Every time I start planning to buy marines, I get annoyed at how everything feels so set in stone.
I want to do stuff like make my own chapter master, but all the chapters I look at already have chapter masters with established loadouts. I feel like I can't make up my own stories when I play an established chapter.

Dumb question: I have a dreadnought army, do you think it downsizes well enough to fit into a 500 point list?

Zoggin butifull gif

How many Dreadies is a Dreadnought Army?