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I wonder why they did this. Maybe GW actually cares about diversifying the different Chapters more again?
Liam Hernandez
There is literally no explanation for this restriction other than spite.
Lucas Sanders
GW wrecks them furries.
Logan Mitchell
I can't be the only one that see's moonman here.
Alexander Reyes
9th for Tzeentch
Brayden Brown
Gimme your 1k or 1.5k necron lists
Cameron James
Khorne worshipers confirmed
Benjamin Kelly
>Chapters best a close combat >Give them the gimpiest weapons
Why?
Samuel Foster
Last time posting this: Anyone in the Albany NY/western MA area up for a 500pt game this weekend?
Colton Thomas
try reading edition
Mason Jenkins
Witnessed.
Now watch this 7 for Nurgle counteract you.
Michael Torres
Fuck yiffs.
Julian Hernandez
They don't even have chainswords. Will the multi-part one come with them?
If they do, I'm going to be pissed my vanilla guys can't take chainswords.
Michael Phillips
maybe they get specific bonusses to Chainswords? like chainswords being actually better than Powerswords
William Lee
Sorry user, close but no cigar. Maybe you'll get it next time.
Joseph Cox
>like chainswords being actually better than Powerswords
That would be OP considering how many chainswords you can spam. Imagine a horde army full of 13-14 point marines, all with super power swords.
Jeremiah Brooks
>maybe they get specific bonusses to Chainswords?
Well they don't, and their codexes aren't on the horizon so what gives?
Luis Bailey
At least put in the effort user
John Diaz
It's almost exactly how Blood-Angel (death company) is supposed to be.
They still before they get close enough
Eli Martin
>we dont provide rules for models we dont make where is the logic
>gw logic yeah..
Nicholas Hall
still die*
Zachary Garcia
>>gw logic More like legal system logic. Blame chapterhouse
Brandon King
did you not just notice they provided rules for a primaris sarge with a chainsword who they dont make a model for?
and yet autocannon dreads are gone
Jose Watson
>deathwatch can take primaris apohtecary >deathwatch can't take regular apothecary but y tho
Leo Moore
P-Post your models, b-baka
Owen Clark
Contemptor Dreadnoughts Lost almost half their Weapon Variety
Austin Baker
Witnessed. The Fateweaver knows all.
Evan Gray
yeah so theres zero consistency, yet again
Aaron Ross
Intercessor sergeants with curse of the wulfen were just too damn strong in pre-testing.
Carter Peterson
>who they dont make a model for
You saw the Intercessor multi-part sprues already?
>and yet autocannon dreads are gone
No they're not. The fuck? It's like you have no idea how to play 8E.
Blake Peterson
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Blake Sanchez
Jobs a good'un boss
Levi Jackson
Nice Ork. But I don't want too. Might ruin the thread more
Brody Ross
>one additional power sword attack breacks the game okay, and the Blood Angels?
Jonathan Wright
So. Clarification needed.
Does, or does not, a single velocity tracker on a Crisis Suit unit leader provide the bonus to the rest of the squad?
Nicholas Richardson
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Zachary Perez
That's... not what that case was about. Fuck it, lets just blame Chapterhouse for everything.
Is 10 Hellblasters with plasma incinerators worth it?
Logan Barnes
How do you even lose to a knight army this edition? Unless you have a little kid army with like 10 models, there's practically no way to lose to them. They're just as tough to AT as last edition, but cost 100 more points, have less damage potential, and can be wounded by the rest of your infantry, instead of them being useless like in 7e.
Are all the people still complaining just running little kid armies instead of grown up armies?
Samuel Cox
hmm youre right, i havent seen the sprues actually its just weird that they would include a chainsword in there and not let generic marines take it
dreads are gone from the codex, you know what i meant so dont be a baka
Christian Foster
Why does he have a face like a fucking moon?
Levi Lopez
Hehehe. I can already hear the song.
Aiden Taylor
So does this mean that Blood Angels, Furries, Dark Angels, ect. aren't getting their own dex?
I sure hope so.
Josiah Mitchell
Does not.
Benjamin Flores
>You saw the Intercessor multi-part sprues already?
Funny that GW would put out rules for something that doesn't even have models announced. So far a bunch of Primarine models have gotten rules as they come out. But here we have a rule with no model for it.
They just want Chapterhouse to fuck them once again...
Gabriel Gray
Anyone have the scans for the SM Stratagems?
Logan Long
Does this mean that running a centrepiece Knight in big games is no longer worth it over just a bunch of regular tanks and such? Dammit, I never got to use my Admech Knight last edition because I was magnetising him. Is the Knight Crusader worthwhile, even at like 600 points?
Christopher Ross
No. Their Codices were confirmed months ago by GW. At least one of them will be released in August.
Aiden Moore
unleash rage was just nuts.
Henry Robinson
>as they come out
No, multiple weeks before they come out. See: Reivers and HQs.
John Wright
Because he's sicker than your average nigger killer.
Jace Stewart
I want to start mass converting eversor assassins but I need to get skull helmets for them, does anyone have suggestions on where to get them? I'm going to be making them out of dark eldar wyches and skitarii bits
Nathaniel Kelly
Oh, I'm sure they will.
I for one am eagerly anticipating the Primaris Fallen.
Brandon Wood
>the result of chapterhouse isn't why GW no longer provides rules for things that don't have models The fuck? What do you think chapterhouse was about user?
Lucas Perry
>you know what i meant so dont be a baka
THIS IS Veeky Forums YOU'LL NEVER STOP US FROM BEING BAKAS
Noah Jackson
The next four codex releases are Space Marines, CSM, Death Guard and Grey Knights. Probably not in that exact order.
Angel Bell
Grey Knights is likely coming before DG.
Mason Brown
>How do you even win when going first every game, getting first blood every game, and never giving up any kill points
youre bad
Connor Barnes
>Does this mean that running a centrepiece Knight in big games is no longer worth it over just a bunch of regular tanks and such? Correct. They are trash now. Lose to almost any army in the game.
>Is the Knight Crusader worthwhile, even at like 600 points? Fuck no. They can even be tar-pitted by non infantry in melee. They're a joke unit.
Anthony Lewis
Reiver rules came when the easy to build Reivers came out. Their rules got updated to include all the options when the multi-part kit came. Librarian and non-Gravis Captain rules came around when the models were announced, apothecary and chaplain rules came now that those models were announced.
Sebastian Russell
I want to play Blood Angels but the combination of Robby G, Ultramarines chapter tactics, Ultras Warlord trait are just too fucking good.
I kind of want to hold out to see what BA get but I think we'll get screwed again.
Christopher Cooper
Chapter House made models for units with no rules, thus GW couldn't make models for those units.
Jonathan Baker
>eversore >ass-sassin'
Jack Ortiz
And the easy to build Intercessors have been out for months. Owned bitch
Valiant and handsome defenders of Konor: 1 Chaoscucks: 0
Easy game easy life
Luke Jackson
So then why did you say chapterhouse wasn't about that?
Gavin Green
>>How do you even win when going first every game,
>being too stupid to deploy important units out of los
>>getting first blood every game,
Who cares? They do fuck all damage unless you're running a little kid army.
>>and never giving up any kill points Doesn't matter when you table them turn 2-3 Also good luck ever holding a single objective.
Nathaniel Richardson
God damn it.
Salty Black Templar player.
Jose Long
And now you know why GW doesn't make rules without models, moron.
Jackson Evans
Sonovabitch. Ah well, he'll still look cool when I've finished him, and it's not like Admech is seething with top-level units to replace him with.
Angel Foster
I have a question regarding the Primaris in a Deathwatch army: as of right now, they technically don't enjoy the use of the special ammunitions rule of the DW, because bolt rifle and such are not mentioned among the weapons that can use special ammo.
Would you enforce this on your opponent, or let them use the Spec Ammo rule say, only on the Intercessor?
Zachary Barnes
I still don't understand why BT are upset about being rolled into the SM codex.
Guaranteed updates, guaranteed rules.
Kayden Bailey
>They do fuck all damage unless you're running a little kid army. Nigger what? If you can't do damage with knights then you just suck
Bentley Harris
>good luck ever holding a single objective >stand directly on top of an objective >base size is larger than the range of the objective
Easy.
Jordan Cox
>Would you enforce this on your opponent
Yup.
Hudson Peterson
Chapterhouse was about them making models for the spore pods with the GW name attached to it. GW never registered the name for themselves, but since they had written about them before, they could claim ownership of the term. In written medium. Chapterhouse made models and could thus could claim ownership of the name in miniature form.
This whole "doesn't make rules they don't make models for" isn't all true, since for several editions GW kept giving units and options with no models rules. Conversion beamers, vendettas, etc. lacked (GW) models, but had rules.
Jacob Peterson
I saw somewhere CSM confirmed for Aug 22, and GK described as 'mere weeks away' by GW a week ago
Henry Morris
>At least one of them will be released in August. No they won't.
Evan Cooper
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Jack Thompson
>They can even be tar-pitted
You can't tarpit Knights in 8E.
Angel Flores
I'm thinking about magnetizing my Fire Warriors so I could use them both as FW and BT. Should I just magnetize arms and heads or maybe should I go full autist and magnetize backpacks too?
Gabriel Robinson
How many Quad Launchers is too many for an IW army?
Brody Anderson
>little kid army player detected Meanwhile in grown up 40k, armies with more than 10 models rape them all day long.
>tar-pitting yourself No wonder you think knights are good, fucking idiot.
Robert Mitchell
>since for several editions GW kept giving units and options with no models rules
Until the Chapterhouse case. And now they don't.
Vendettas and Conversion Beamers have had models for many many years, FW is GW.
Daniel Jones
>And the easy to build Intercessors have been out for months.
Yet none of them have a chainsword armed sergeant, even though rules for one exists now.
Maybe you shouldn't blow your load so fast?
Tyler Cox
You can't tarpit ANYTHING in 8th edition unless you magically get enough movement and bodies to surround them.
Thomas Roberts
>being this retarded Go read the rules, brainlet.
Brandon Wilson
>tar-pitting
You keep spamming this word in completely inappropriate contexts but I don't think you even know what it means. Considering that Fall Back is a thing now too.
Brody Kelly
>Meanwhile in grown up 40k, armies with more than 10 models rape them all day long. Ok, so you just suck. Good to know, now git gud faggot.
Samuel Foster
is this user conducting anti knight psyops? cant beat em so dissuade people from taking them?
>8e meta takes a strange turn
Cooper Harris
CSM are not confirmed for the 22nd and almost definitely won't be out that day.
Nolan Collins
you're playing Guard so your objective is to make your opponent fall asleep in your shooting phase or become so bored they die
So yes.
Brody Perry
Because they wreck shit? Watch this! (It's what happens every game I play Knights)
>go first turn one because always less models, and shoot all his anti-armor off the field (not really hard desu) He shoots back with now signifigantly weaker firepower, and puts down all (if any) deep strikers. Usually no melee ensues, and if it does nothing that kills me >I fall back if in combat, sustaining at maximum MAYBE 6 wounds on one guy, then go through the same process of shooting/chopping his anti-armor off the field His turn he's now lost a good deal- if not all- of his anti-armor, and is reduced to regular weapons fire and D1 stuff that has no real effect. >my turn three I repeat the process finally, having killed any and all heavy weapons or melee threats, and start slicing up the rest of his objective grabbers (or at least ones pertinent to me) He's fucked and tries to start playing objectives, but may have killed a knight, hell maybe even two! But he literally can't kill the other two, taking killpoints off the table. >and that's it. I focus on 2-3 objectives and hoarde them while he's hopeless to stop me, and enjoy winning in every arena
A smart tactician can beat em, but even then it's tough. You can down 1-2 easily but will have lost everything with a punch by then, so 90% of armies lose pretty easily.
Remember, ability to wound != good at killing. 50 conscripts rapid-firing with the double shot command only does 3 damage.
I figured out my tactic listening to front line, effectively 'feed' them a knight or balance damage between them, but either way armies just can't muster more guns than I can kill.
Pretty easy desu
Grayson Myers
Knights are still good units, they don't make a very good army by themselves, mainly because none of the variants have enough rate of fire to tear through hordes effectively. But a knight can take a lot of punishement whilst being decent at killing big shit down to elite infantry.
James Foster
RETURN TO THICC WHEN
Connor Lopez
It's amazing how many autists on this board miss the incredibly obvious jokes that don't even try to hide the fact that they are jokes right in their face. Is that what it's like to be autistic? To never be able to get a hint and embarass yourself constantly because of it? That's exactly what autism is like, isn't it.
Alexander Davis
>This whole "doesn't make rules they don't make models for" isn't all true, since for several editions GW kept giving units and options with no models rules. Conversion beamers, vendettas, etc. lacked (GW) models, but had rules. Except those models did have rules, FW exists