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Should I play Alpha Legion primaris successors or Dark Eldar?
Owen Cook
First for heresy.
Nicholas Hernandez
Play any cool games today user?
Matthew Barnes
delet
Blake Sullivan
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Elijah Hill
No, and I dont even get to play in Konor. No painting for a month either.
But on the upside I am in flight school, which is nice.
Blake White
How about playing Alpha Legion primaris successors who are actually loyal to the elder
you never know with those fucks
Brayden Bailey
new EC models?
Colton Gutierrez
Flamebelcha coming along nicely, this kit is beautiful
Isaiah Brooks
With a few less this would be great, one of my plans for a 35k emperors children >Valhallan dude is among us >his opponent uses goblin green bases Truly we are blessed
Andrew Hernandez
Y E S
Lincoln Gutierrez
The Glam Marines, a weapon to surpass Metal Gear
Dominic Gray
who makes these? theyre awesome
Isaiah Baker
What's the end result and what will you use this fantasy model for
Ayden Robinson
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Jaxon Taylor
What is actually happening on the local level?
How is your store, Veeky Forums, Imperium or Chaos?
Easton Brown
No. This is a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.
Asher Adams
I'm looking for a good alternative to Eldar Rangers. Looked through the AoS shit and nothing seems to quite fit or would be a massive paint to convert to hold long rifles.
Willing to go third party.
Parker Perry
Your guard make me fully erect, man.
Played my sisters against some nurgle daemons. Immolators and Dominions are king right now.
Mason Morgan
A lad called Steeljoe
Camden Russell
By the emperor
I feel like some steps are missing
Joseph White
Something.... BURNY
William Martinez
still no pdf?
Lucas Hall
Will we get legion upgrade kits at least 60% chaos, although the hive tyrant destroying the primaris dread is probably essential to that percentage
Charles Martinez
Re-posting from the last thread:
How do I make non-ratling snipers viable? Command Squads with rifles maybe?
Not hating on sniper hobbits, I just really like the IG sniper models (the various metal ones, that is).
Chase Robinson
So Hellblasters are now super OP and better than vet squads and devs. Intercessors are better than tacticals. Aggressors are nuts and better than Terminators. Centurions were nerfed. Inceptors are the best plasma deepstrikers. Redemptor is the best Dreadnought. Repulsor is a Land Raider for 50 points cheaper. Thank god Reivers don't get jump packs so manlets are at least useful for something.
Jace Wilson
That's not one model Try the shadow spectre and cut the rifle in half >sisterfags are included in an imperium win Can't wait for them to get banned from my local club
Luke Wright
>Can't wait for them to get banned from my local club
Justify your heresy.
Parker Wilson
>haha T-Theres no way P-P-Primashit will be better than my glorious marines ever haha
Kayden Cox
Anybody got a pirate 8th Spersh Marayns Codex?
Thanks
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Except if you pay the points for jump packs then your assault manlets are 16ppm, while Reivers are 18ppm for 2 wounds each, can disable Overwatch and give the opponent -1 to hit in CC, have a leadership debuff aura, and can just be infiltrated into position with the Raven Guard Stratagem.
Kayden Perry
Use the other IG snipers as ratlings
Eli Martinez
Thinking about making an army based around centurions, terminators and primaris intercessors and inceptors (maybe reivers too, but aggressors just don't do it for me, basically everything has multiple wounds) is it possible to cover all bases with them?
Jaxon Brooks
You know Smaug has a resin model right You forgot 40 rapid fire shots
Jack Roberts
what about the high elf archer ladies from AOS? sisters of averlorn or whatever.
Jonathan Richardson
>tfw i'm gonna turn in 8 points of painted guard on monday to flip my store to imperium upset that we're enjoying the hobby friend ?
Joshua Morgan
I want an Imperium/CSM "character spam" army
How would I approach this ?
A lot of single model "one against many" elements in an army for both shooting and assaulting.
Inquisitors in Term armour with psycannons? (they got psyk spells)
Anything better ?
Nathan Baker
But Reivers kinda do, grapnel launchers allow them to ignore any vertical distance when moving.
Julian Sanchez
Whenever people play them they make me stand at the table edge and they have to check distances to the models, in fear I whip them with the tape measure Autistic I know
Jordan Mitchell
> it's a imperium/order will dominate the whole campaign again episode
smart move to release a brand new line of space marines during the campaign, GW. that certainly will not affect the outcome.
Jackson Martinez
Hydra Dominatus.
Jordan Wood
Here is how it goes IRL >buy sniper models you like >go to flgs >"Hey bro, i'm proxying thoses as ratlings. >"Ok lets go, but let me get my beer first"
Colton Rivera
I-its a "mount" for my Warboss user.... I thought Burny would be enough of a hint, but im also retarded
Jose Rogers
And why would I do that
Dylan Myers
elysian sniper teams have 2 wounds, bs3+ a 5+ save , can deep strike and are 7ppm
Justin Stewart
>Repulsor is a Land Raider for 50 points cheaper. Plus more small arms guns, an AA option, debuffs the opponents charge rolls, has FLY, and has exclusive rights to transport all the different Chads mentioned in your post that are better than their manlet counterparts as well.
Joseph Phillips
You're right they can just deepstrike with Grav Chutes as well. So they are 2ppm less than Vanguard Veterans with a better pistol, same attacks, and 2W for less move.
Anthony Foster
I've yet to see anyone, ANYONE complain about using kneeling IG as ratling squads.
Just base them differently then the rest of the army so your opponent clearly sees and remembers which unit they are.
Landon Bell
Post it bitch Chaos sorcerers and summo Belakor
Leo Howard
2ppm more I mean.
Robert Green
Who cares? Like it's gonna change anything.
>Those who cast the vote decide nothing, those who count the vote decide everything
In other words, GW will just pretend Chaos didn't win or not record it correctly or something.
Somebody uploaded all the rules that count last thread. Nobody is scanning 200 pages for nothing in return. Wait until somebody buys the pdf and uploads it, but if I were them, I wouldn't, because you guys never shut the fuck up. Just buy the fucking thing or go and ask or Reddit or something.
Gabriel Morales
>chaos is winning in all but America because burgerkeks banned chaos imports due to sharp edges
Xavier Hill
>Take normal Sniper models >Play as Ratlings >????? >Profit
I think you meant >Hellblasters are now actually a viable option and not the overcosted garbage they were before >Intercessors are good, with interesting options, but cannot justify their cost with firepower alone, so you need to find ways to make the most of them >Aggressors are fantastic tarpit-clearers who are horrifically fragile on a per-unit basis (6 Wounds at T5 3+ is not tough) and can punch out the Rhino your opponent sends at them to shut them up >Redeptor is a good Dreadnought, but not bullshit like a Grav-Flux Leviathan and actually reasonably priced >Repulsor is bristling with guns but struggles to find uses as anything but an Aggressor taxi
Come on, man. Yes, their stuff is good now, but not THAT good, stop shit-stirring.
John Taylor
>Hellblasters better than Devastators
For some things. Not really in the case of their heavy guns vs plasma cannons, and they can -only- do plasma.
>Intercessors better than tacs
Doubtful, point for point.
>Aggressors are nuts and better than Terminators.
At anti-horde. Temmies have other roles and their shooty ones were always the shittiest.
>Centurions were nerfed.
Well, shooty ones. Still, you're half right this time.
>Inceptors are the best plasma deepstrikers.
I wasn't aware that was a role that needed filling.
>Redemptor is the best Dreadnought.
Hahahaha that is gloriously ignorant. Redemptors are mono-role and have competition even for the one thing they do.
>Repulsor is a Land Raider for 50 points cheaper.
Yeah, but it's ugly as shit.
Ayden Russell
You don't even need the chutes, since the hooks lets you enter the game 6" from any table edge (as long as you're 9" away from the enemy), letting your dudes get close to some juicy targets behind enemy lines.
I'm a little torn which one to give my Reivers.
Asher Peterson
Eh boss, dis be a better mount
Aiden Anderson
so the chapter relics dont have a points cost associated with them so how the fuck is GW going to balance them if players inevitably find some broken combos?
yeah the answer is they wont cause they dont care /rant
Anthony Mitchell
when I look at the page Imps controll at least over 60% of each sector.
Isaiah Cruz
The way their arms are would not be within my conversion ability to change to a position where they'd be holding a rifle. Much of the Wood Elf line has a look I like, but no good way to re-pose the arms.
Liam Rivera
Most of my stores around me are Imperial or neutral. We even got a total score yet? Yesterday Imperium was winning 65/35.
Colton Brooks
It was. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together understood what your Flamebelcha was meant for the first time around. It's also a great idea. Proceed.
Nathan Allen
>they can -only- do plasma.
Sure, but their heavy incinerator is S8 and can overcharge to S9 and Dmg. 2. Throw in a cheap captain to let them re-roll To Hit rolls of 1, and they can do some damage.
But they're not perfect by any means.
Gabriel Reed
>I wasn't aware that was a role that needed filling.
Where were you the last 4 edition ?
Noah Lopez
for those with SM codex what the fook is auxilary granade luncher - the rules says 11 points for Astraters granade louncher is this the same shit or what ! ?
Isaac Nelson
>Yeah, but it's ugly as shit. It's sleek perfection
Nathan White
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Leo Ramirez
>GW changed stormraven wording just to fuck with Death Stars Sure they'll just let all those sales go to waste
Easton King
>REEE-ing for no fucking reason Here's the balance: You get ONE. Just ONE. 1. If you want more, you pay Command Points for them. And the ones in the Space Marine Codex range from niche trash (Burning Blade) to merely good (Shield Eternal, Primarch's Wrath). There's nothing remotely game-breaking in there. They're just some fun, fluffy additions.
Jacob Miller
>grenades don't ignore cover
Benjamin Jones
The only problem is where to put all those turret-mounted weapons if you want to get rid of it. I broke my head trying to figure out how to nicely convert it.
Brandon Martin
Grenades never ignored cover?
But if you use the cities of death rules (which everyone should at all times) they get huge buffs against infantry in ruins.
Jeremiah Rodriguez
>Imperial Fist Hellblasters Hide behind walls all you like, you are never getting a save again.
Angel Ross
Hey all, now that I am painting up my IG army I have to start thinking about composition. I have ~30 of these little faggots and some tallarn squads and was thinking about making a skirmisher IG army, with tallarn guardsmen and lots of ratlings.
Would that be a remotely viable army core in this day and age of overpriced and overpowered bullshit LOW the size of my forearm?
Jaxson Rodriguez
>not abusing the Command Point strat to give all your dudes relics since you can use the strat multiple times to get multiple relics for 1CP each rather than having to pay 3CP for 2.
Tyler Turner
Exept nobody hide against imperial fists and just go balls out agressive from the start.
Robert Price
>Hahahaha that is gloriously ignorant. Redemptors are mono-role and have competition even for the one thing they do
They aren't mono role at all 4 s14 d6 attacks against vehicles and 18 HB shots and 8 bolter shots against infantry. Its the only all around multi-target effective dread besides the leviathan.
Tyler Collins
You do know the point of a grenade right
Oliver Bell
You get one per spess muhreen detachement, Enjoy scout, buffed up HQ, scout buffed up HQ, actual force.
David Edwards
No, but there is limitations. You can only get 1, you have to use CP for more. A unit can only have 1 each. Some can't be given to certain units (Primaris can't take Primarch's Wrath for example).
Leo Garcia
So are they gonna make chad terminators?
Jacob Myers
>overpriced LoW No it's actually better to do many large units now And why aren't you filling up the gaps on those squat bases
Brandon Murphy
>30 ratlings
Andrew Rivera
They get to enjoy the universes finest bolter drill then.
Kayden Murphy
You are clearly misunderstood on the state of the game. 1) Ratling is one of the most broken units with some top player fielding 80 of them. YUGELY POPULAR in 8th. 2) Most LoW are Turboshit.
Anthony Torres
To provide troops with explosive ordnance for clearing out enemy positions?
Landon Hughes
stupid fucking GW. In the french leak it has the same name in the intercessor squad and in the point cost table. The price was 4 points. No idea what the fuck happened in the english version.
Dominic Gray
They are called gravis.
Chase Cook
bought off eBay. Will fix the bases or just replace them at some point.
Nicholas Sanders
I was in the meta where flame and meta were the deep striking thing of choice.
Yeah, there were some combi-plas suicide units, but those were expensive suicide units. The people who relied on those were desperate or retarded.
Whilst redundancy in a list is important, you should plan a unit to be able to contribute at any time, not once, unless it's utterly throwaway cheap. Leave the chess style piece trading for after you hit the board.
Hunter Sullivan
Got the double dex release, not the date
Caleb Carter
I haven't played regularly since 2003 so I only surmised that LOW were bullshit based on their appearance.
If ratlings are broke that makes me want to field them less, since I don't want to be some WAAC fagmaster. There are enough of those around.
Jeremiah Johnson
Which part of "not that amazing" is so hard to get? Also, how many Characters do you intend to take? Or do you want to give Teeth of Terra and shit to random Sergeants just because you have more Relics to throw around? Whoops, you can't, only Characters can take them and only one per Character at that.
Austin Perez
Not even flamers ignore cover
Jeremiah Murphy
beergut armor replaces terminators. i hope not
Cooper Russell
Already been addressed, that's almost certainly just bullshit.
Xavier Robinson
great now find points cost for it at the end of the book ...
Isaac Mitchell
Hey Veeky Forums i got into 40k last year with orks, with only a starter box and another box of boyz. So what happens now with the 8th edition transition?
Will all the 40k models including orks be getting upgraded models like the primaris?
Should i wait until that happens or just keep getting orks?