Warhammer Fantasy General /wfg/

Pretty sure, they just needed a generic Russian voice to mark Kislev as separate from the Empire. Katarina will swap in once they get to the Kislev dlc.

>tfw no frigid ice waifu to bully you

They'll probably both be Legendary lords. dimitry is the current leader though since they didn't want to bother giving him a unique model if there was a chance kislev wouldn't be a thing

So does Norsca DLC mean that Kislev/Tilea/Estalia/Border Prince DLC is no longer out of the realm of possibility? Think they'll even go as far Araby when they get around to Tomb Kangz?

Maybe even Cathay?[/spoiler

Kislev is massively in demand. It had a full army in Warmaster and IIRC in regular Warhammer and the devs actually had to say 'no, it's not Kislev' officially before revealing Norsca, since people wouldn't stop asking.

Apparently they had to announce that the norsca DLC was NOT kislev so they're aware there's a sizable amount of demand.
As for border princes/estalia/tilea, the real question there is if there's an army list worth caring about there

There's also multiple mods that add in kislev as it's own unique faction. Other than brettonnia, I can't think of anyone else having such mods

>tfw ywn be held in your fimir bf's big strong arms as you two drift to sleep

It hurts

It probably doesn't hurt that, not only did Kislev have its own model range, but unlike Araby there are a lot of things already in the game that work well for slapping together Kislev-like models already - most of the Empire units look close enough, and you take the hats off of some of the Goblins and add some other bits from Bretonnia and call it good.

The guy who said he had a WFRP game starting tonight unlisted his thing on Roll20. I'm thinking of just saying Fuck It and starting my own and seeing if one of the recruits wants to GM.

For the anons here -- I'll say that I generally prefer campaigns out of the book (with some of the necessary modifications that happen in an RPG). Prior, I've run The Enemy Within, a first edition campaign, which I modified for second edition, and it was fantastic. If anyone wanted to do that, all the better.

I'm also looking for 2e, something that works with East Coast US time, and weekends, preferably, though I can probably do weekday evenings.

I usually try to take roleplaying seriously and know a lot about the world (as I'm sure all of you do).

Didn't Araby have some models for Warmaster, and I think Man'O War? They also had a model in Dreadfleet. Which is more than what Cathay, Nippon, Ind, and Khuresh have gotten.

Actually, Fimir present an interesting experiment.

They're monsters of rape...but matriarchal, not overtly racist in any way, and tumblr fucking loves them sum cyclops.

I wonder whether tumblr ends up doing porn and chibi of them or complaining and calling for a boycott.

I honestly think it'll be the former.

Oh yeah, they had all that. It'd be just a lot harder to mod them in with what's in Total Warhammer now. Maybe take the Men-at-Arms robes, color them black, give them some two-handed swords...I don't know. But right now there isn't even a place for them in the game.

Technically Nippon did get an Ogre. Well, an Ogre Maneater dressed like a samurai, but it was something. And Cathay got a kitbashed army featured in White Dwarf.

Nippon did have a model range, but just for the early lore-light skirmish RPG days of Warhammer and for Warhammer RPG after that.

The old Citadel range is actually ridiculously expansive in ways most people wouldn't guess at. Like pic related, a non-Chaos ordinary circus.

If you considered each of these to be faction...

Found one of the old Nippon adverts. I'm trying to find the one for the entire range.

...

Well I can't find that advert, so I'll just leave it at this.

But yeah, they had enough models for basically two or three Regiments Of Renown back in the day. Even more if you consider the subcompanies that Citadel absorbed and their ranges.

If I painted this red, would it be a good model for Finubar?

Katarina a cute !
>tfw no ice witch gf to warm up as we cuddle under the bear furs

I have no idea why Creative Assembly decided to ass-fuck their own product and make their campaign maps unmoddable. This is why Medieval II is still the best. Fucking faggots.

All I can guess is that they don't want anything getting fucked up if they chose to have an expansion or add a new faction, since a lot of that stuff just gets stuck right into the game as it is, far as I'm aware.

Or maybe they're afraid of what the modding community can do, and if they can't retain some official control there will be modders doing the equivalent of whole expansions that they think will take away business from them. Pretty sure it's just some business decision though.

Maybe it's a GW stipulation? Like how I heard naval battles won't be expanded because GW doesn't want TW to conflict with Man'O War.

I'd love to see a custom campaign map based off the Albion campaign GW did back in the 00s.

SLAMBO

THE ONE TRUE EVERCHOSEN OF CHAOS

So on the advisor guy - I was happy with myself for finally noticing that not only did he have the obvious dwarf and Empire medallion, but a little one for Bretonnia as well and a pair of what I assume are orc teeth. But he also has something curly that looks like a fossilized sea shell on his shoulder - what is that supposed to be from? Can't find an actual picture of him offhand, unfortunately.

> Ohi Ninja

Nice pun, and cool that we potentially have a name for a semi-canon ninja clan.

Nah. They did the same thing with Rome and Attila. It's definitely Creative Assembly/Sega being faggots.

Wish I could read the names of the models.

Those should be from the old Citadel catalogs, which I know we have scanned somewhere. If not here they should be on Lost Minis Wiki.

I'd really do wonder what the GW take on India, China, Indochina, and Japan would've been like. But then again, maybe one reason they chose not to was because they weren't intimately familiar with those regions history and culture to do something interesting with it like they were able to combine Tolkien and Moorcock with the real life cultures they had chances to learn about (Norse, Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Celtic, Slavic, French, German, etc)

Something more than racist pygmy tribes and junk from proto-Warhammer I hope.

To get ultra heretical I just headcanon (see: fanfiction) that some chaos boys from the north attacked Cathay and were driven east were they met a small colony of elves they proceeded to rape. And that's how the nobles were born.
As the years wore on the elves in between being slaves and used for r34 slowly weaned the men out of full chaos worship, which since most of them only did out of convenience it only took a couple generations, and then made them worship a bunch of random fucking things (yes human, that rock is a spirit. Everything has a soul!).
Parts of their former religion is still in the culture, such as red being the color of war, green of pestilence, blue for guile, and violet for the courtesans.
Since only the female elves weren't butchered and eaten they became the shrine maidens and all the noble houses can claim descent from them and swear loyalty to them and their gods.
The elves themselves don't want to see any other elves because the fact they were used for various ducked up hentai with humans is still a sore point.
They're a full empire with clans in constant competition for the grace of their spirit mother.

So I take it his getting kicked in the ass by Tzeench is canon?

I mean it was racist because it was a shallow interpretation of the culture it was based on right? And that's boring. So maybe they phased them out not just because of the racist aspects, but because it lead to something that was not particularly interesting. And that's why they never expanded upon what happened east past Ogre Kingdom's because of that. Warhammer was made by British nerds in the 80s, which meant they would've been more likely to have exposure to not just the various Western European mythology and folklore to draw upon, but also a good amount of Egyptian and Mesopotamian, and the Huns and various other Turkic invaders Europe had to deal with. How many of them would've had exposure to Oriental mythologies that they could add them to the Moorcock/Tolkien/Historical Fantasy mixing pot that Warhammer? Probably not many.

And I guess it did work from a narrative point of view, because it really does make the world seem bigger to not really have a clear picture of what goes on in Cathay, Ind, Nippon, and Khuresh.

>India, Indochina,
Tiger Beastmen and spice ports
>China
Cathay, pretty much Han era china
>Japan
1500's Sengoku Japan

Now now, judging from the time period China would probably be Ming or Qing. Probably Ming just because having a bunch of recent-takeover folks in charge wouldn't go well with most other races having kept control of themselves for centuries.

How would a Vampire Count bloodline inspired by the Pillar Men be like?

What would their background be? And how would you explain their powers in a way that does not go too much against the general fluff of the Vampire Counts and the setting itself?

>How would a Vampire Count bloodline inspired by the Pillar Men be like?
I don't know anything about Jojo, so I'm going off their wiki.

The body-manipulation power is something that some Vampire Counts can do already, just make shapeshifting a more common Bloodline trait and represent it with constant Regeneration and the ability to take one upgrade like Flying or whatever for free.
Advanced Intelligence, just give them a roll to dispel a miscast.
Absorption would probably just improve their ability to regain a Wound after dealing damage, say that they get back one Wound at the end of very turn they are in base contact with an enemy.
"Elemental Battle Mode" is just magic and doesn't need its own rules.
"Ultimate Being" is more of a magic item than an innate power.

To balance that they become a more expensive Bloodline to be.

>What would their background be?
They came from the Americas. Its suspected based on cocaine found in ancient mummies as well as coins discovered on top of the basic idea of pyramid designs that Egyptians somehow had contact with South America. Given the real life connection between Egypt and China is why Neferata is tied to Cathay, just say that Nehekhara was raiding the coastlines of Lustria before their fall and after the vampirism she sent one of the first vampires to there to establish a permanent colony.

>And how would you explain their powers in a way that does not go too much against the general fluff of the Vampire Counts and the setting itself?
They found some Old One shit and altered themselves, then made a Bloodline using Norscan colonists. Dwarfs mostly wiped them out so there's only a few left.

>tfw you get through a level in only half the time it normally takes with a PUG and they pick up the Tomes and Grimoires

Jojo Pillar Men made the Stone Masks originally to try and become the ultimate beings and go past their vulnerability to sunlight and Hamon. Unable to do so without a greater power source, however, they found that it made vampires, lesser beings of their own nature. Pillar Men are unique in that they're the top predators in the vampiric food chain and they feed on the vampires. They have decent shapeshifting abilities similar to other vampires but they can absorb a being not powered by Hamon with a mere touch.

Interesting, so I assume they battled with the Dwarfs of Karak Zorn?

I imagine that they may have also had some interactions with the Vampire Coast (if those guys were around at that time), and maybe the remnants of their Bloodline could make an appearance in a campaign set in Lustria where the plot involves exploring and discovering what happened to Karak Zorn.

Can't think of any way to make that work without shitting on lore.

Dark Elves invented Dark Magic, in older continuity because Slaanesh taught them and otherwise because they're assholes.

Nagash learned Dark Magic, then created Necromancy.

Neferata learned Necromancy, then with Arkhan's help created Vampirism.

That's a direct chain of events where nothing can be inserted.

Now you can say that they were possibly inspired by Abhorash curing his Vampiric weaknesses by being some of the first Blood Dragons, or were maybe inspired by hearing of the Blood Dragons. But you can't make them the first of anything but another Bloodline from one of Neferata's court without stepping on lore and cutting in.

Then again, Rick Priestley said the only canon is your own so do what you feel you want.

Oh no, i'm not saying change anything, i'm just detailing jojo just because you'll see it a decent amount around here.

That's an idea.

Maybe they end up the third faction fighting for control in the Southlands. Maybe all three want the same thing, some kind of mystical giant golden McGuffin from the Old Ones.

Warhammer ties into real world history/modern events and literary/pop culture work best, and Johannesburg in real life South Africa was founded specifically because of a gold rush in the 1880's. Maybe you can tie that in alongside Jojo?

I still want someone to make a Brexit/King Lear story.

Why do you think that Witch Hunters of WFB aren't as popular as the Inquisitors of 40k?

40k got vidya, and they got a meme character in the form of The Redeemer as well as the wonderfully mematic HERESYBLAM and EXTERMINATUS which was posted just about everywhere for quite a while.
I don't say meme in a bad way mind you, rather things that become popular through mematic expression across mediums to the point that people unaware of the source are aware of the meme, and people discovering the source are thus more likely to give it a chance.

So since the 40k setting was more popular via widespread social media, the 40k meme faction became more popular.

Had some form of Vermintide come out around 2005 maybe the Witch Hunters would be more popular. Or maybe if The Redeemer was in a series of Mordheim comics instead of Necromunda ones. Or if Exterminatus referred to a village being torched instead. Or if Greatswords killing furfags had been shitspammed during the golden age of /b/ instead of Space Marines.

>>Grand Theoginist Volkmar hasn't aged a day since his capture and torture by Be'lakor ten years ago. In fact, he seems younger, more virile and aggressive than ever. Between his more divine duties, the gossip mongers say he has his way with many beautiful young ladies.
What do.

This is a quest I want to give my WFRP group at some point. My contention being that Vokmar is host to a daemonic spirit that keeps him young and powerful, while also making him much more impulsive.

>getting at Grand Theoginist Volkmar
holy fuck good luck

sounds like they'd either have to A) plan the assassination of the decade, spending a long time plotting just to finally execute something crazy

or B) worm their way into church politics to try to discredit and later expose him enough that the church takes care of it on its own

probably some of both

...

This is a very late game quest, probably in their third career or so. I reason that Volkmar doesn't spend all his time at the cathedral or even in the Emperor's court (who is deathly ill in our timeline), but wooing other men's wives and breaking the hearts of young girls all over Altdorf. Ideally they shouldn't kill him, but convince him that something is terribly wrong with him and try to exorcise the daemon within him.

Although they could use it to their advantage as my group tends to pick a patron for their characters and dutifully takes part in the religious power-gaps of the Empire, specifically between Sigmar and Ulric.

it won't exactly be hard to find high-ranking Sigmarite church officials who have noticed the change and who also vie for the title of Grand Theogonist

they could probably just find and support someone high ranking enough to try to take him out

I've taken that into account. While his behaviour isn't exactly saintly, he's the 'hammer' of Chaos. He may be an adulterer, but his success in rooting out cults, leading troops in battle and stifling civil unrest speaks for itself. He's just too popular to replace. There may be elements that want a return to the Esmer way of things, but it just wouldn't fly unless they knew what was really wrong with him. Basically it isn't what you know, it's what you can prove, and at that point nobody can prove anything that would deter him from his holy mission.

As far as I know there are no rules that prevent Sigmarite priests from taking wives and having children, even out of wedlock, at least in the WFRP books unless I missed it. I adhere to the Black Plague trilogy idea that Sigmar's priesthood don't have families because it can give an enemy power over them. Volkmar bedding thirsty Altdorf women doesn't break the rules, if only because of a technicality.

Luthor Huss ain't gonna like that

I've toyed with the idea that Huss is the one that sets the PCs down this path. He's gotten a bit older, a bit slower, but his once ideal pick for Grand Theoginist seems younger than ever.

Maybe he's just super jelly of that moustache.

Definitely within the realm of possibility, and I'd say probable, at this point. Not sure about Tilea/Estalia... but they do have stuff to do in the 'new world', so maybe.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kislev ended up being a free DLC down the road.

Procedurally generated maps with the current amount of data mean that it would take half a week to load the map every time you start the game.

damn those are awesome! so much character!

also
>£2.50 for 6
holy fuck!

>vampire bloodline derived from mosquitos instead of bats
wouldn't that be awesome?

That'd be fucking horrifying. If this is based on the two bloodlines that disappeared, I'm glad they did. I can't stand a tiny mosquito buzzing in my ear, let alone some macrovirus.

If things were right with the universe, Abhorash used them as training dummies.

well, not just mosquitoes, also leeches and ticks. all the bloodsucking creepy-crawlies

Still, I hope the entire line is exterminated. Though I could see such creeps being aligned with the Strigoi, as unloved as they both are.

but FB has no insect theme at all, it needs some. 40k at least has Tyranids

For good reason.

there's no good reason
creepy-crawlies are cute

BEGONE THOT

Just re-reading through Realm of Sorcery 2ed and I realised a few things that had never really leapt out at me before:

>Magisters don't actually own anything. Each Order is functionally it's own barony that the Magister serves and to whom all their worldly possessions belong.
>Wizards that you can play as in WFRP - even the high end guys - are not even close to being on the same level as guys you'd see in WFB. And that's intentional. They're a different order of mage that you can't even level up as.

The first line I tend to agree with. The second one, not so much.

A weird though came across my mind while I was bored, how would warhammer olympics go with every major faction participating?
Also do we know name of the planet warhammer fantasy is located in?

>vampires winning everything that involves physical strength
>elves winning everything that involves reflexes
>kenyans winning marathon
>jamaicans winning sprint
it would go pretty predictable

no, it has no name

It's simply the world

>planet warhammer fantasy is located in?
Fated Place.

ZOATS

WHEN

the elves call it "the fated place".

I like calling it mallus, but that would canonically be just the name of its core, and it's not WHFB canon anyway.

Does our world have a name?

I wonder if dragon ogres animations would work for them

Terra, Earth, Gaia.

Realm of Sorcery flat out spells it out. Battle Wizards are stronger than the wizards you can play as, and they don't include a career for it.

Makes sense though - none of the spells you can learn are really 'army' level. They also specify that Battle Wizards tend to have a short lifespan.

I hope they include Finubar as one of the High Elves remaining LL's alongside the queen.

His leader bonuses would be havily economic and other based around running the kingdom instead of for battle, also he would have an oh so slight reputation bonus with the dorfs.

Wizard lords are stronger than battle wizards

I was thinking of getting some Lizardmen, is it worth it or will they be scrapped within the next couple of years then gone for good?

They should be man sized!!

You know Katarina is literally as cold as ice right?
You'd be getting frozen trying to cuddle up to her.

>Maybe it's a GW stipulation? Like how I heard naval battles won't be expanded because GW doesn't want TW to conflict with Man'O War.
That's dumb.

Well the fact they consume other vampires would have to be included.
Also their many body-modification abilities are a side-effect of trying to surpass normal vampire limits and become truly 'perfect' beings.

notRipple Users would be really cool to have in Warhammer.

Those all translate roughly to "ground"

if I had to choose a new name I'd look for a way to translate "tabletop" into a short enough word in one of the setting's languages, but I'm not sure there're lexicons that inclusive.

I wish we had Finubar as a special character in tabletop

I also wish i could read in the lore about Tyrn sprerging out against the dwarf kings for some reason and Ungrim punching him in the dick while Finubar and Thorgrim try to remain cool

> if they're gonna get scrapped then it's all the best reason to buy them now

They look like they are there to stay

if anything I'd consider the not plastic stuff at risk

You should be man sized

Inquisitors are just so much more SWAG than witch hunters.
Power to do pretty much anything, retinues of badasses, their own pimp spaceship(s) and of course the fact most Inquisitors are superpowered badasses with their bionics and their archeotech and their psychic powers and their power armor etc.

A witch hunter can be badass but they can't be as badass as all that, or have the HURR EXTERMINATUS FOR NOT SAYING BLESS YOU AFTER A SNEEZE

Finubar isn't really that much of a fighter or mage. But fielding him allowing you to get some extra dwarven mercenaries sounds fun.

>planet name(s) are loosely based and originate from the surface beneath our feet
Welp. Guess we better stop calling our planet Earth.

Whats it going to be like when we meet other space civilizations and we tell them every name for our planet is "Dirt".
Its gonna be fuckin humiliating that's what it is, our only hope is they exterminate us on the spot to spare us the shame.