Epic is an old specialist game from GW that was discontinued a few years ago, since then the community has taken over. Recently there have been rumors of FW releasing new Adeptus Titanicus rules soonish, and depending on if it succeeds(which likely it will) they plan to expand into classic Epic.
>Where do I get the rules? tp.net-armageddon.org/ It's based off of the Epic Armageddon rule set, otherwise known as Epic 4th Ed, with some minor changes and new army lists. You can also find 30k rules here. >Where do I get those fan made minis that show up everywhere? You post your email in Epic threads and hope that one of the recasters contact you, or post on Tactical Command (tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/index.php) and hope you can find someone after you build up trust there. >Where else can I get miniatures? There is a lot of old epic stuff on Ebay and some manufacturers produce good proxies, like vanguardminiatures.co.uk/. Tacticalwargames.net, and other forums or facebook groups also do lots of trading in second hand epic minis. >What's the game like? Players alternate using parts of their armies called formations rather than moving and fighting with their entire force. Morale and fatigue is represented by giving “Blast Markers” to a formation when something bad happens to it, which gradually makes it less effective and stops more and more units in the formation from acting until they rally. The scale makes units with longer range weapons or high movement speed stand out more, makes maneuvering more important and allows for the use of many units that are super heavy or above in Warhammer 40 000, such as Baneblades, fliers, knights or titans without warping the game too much. The new 30k stuff is also great, and they are rapidly developing more rules for the legions as the actual FW Redbooks release.
So, since there is no Sisters of Battle Epic list on there, would I just run these as Space Marines or something else?
Also tempted to buy some of the 15mm Sisters and say they are orphans in costume, and use them as objective markers in 40K.
Chase White
>they are rapidly developing more rules for the legions as the actual FW Redbooks release.
As someone who has been playing Epic30k for the past two years, the rules development on the HH Supplement are definitely not 'rapidly developing' anymore. The forums have been dead for over a year and nothing new has really been added except for a barebones Legio Custodes list. I hope since the dev team is only like 1 guy, it's because he's dealing with other life stuff instead of letting the system just die off.
Ayden Gomez
Really? It seems they have been good about adding stats for very new recent units such as the mastadon etc..
Thomas Perry
I love the game but don't have many people to play it with. The price and availability of models has led me to get a little creative with balsa wood. I have a huge number of the generic coloured plastic marines/rhinos/land raiders as well as the orks and eldar from those same sets. Because I don't really play much most of it is quite far back in my painting backlog. Banking on the sucess of the new titanicus to bring the game back a bit, although I think a lot of the 40k appeal is lost on the scale of the models for a lot of younger people.
Xavier Fisher
Yeah the Mastodon stats came out in Feb of 2017. For a community driven game, that is ages ago.
Julian Miller
Nothing new has been added to the Mechanicum in probably a year. The guy making Epic30k sculpts already has Vultarax, but I bet nobody is buying them since there aren't any rules for them.
Leo Cooper
I'm actually quite curious what those titans look like next to regular models or on a battlefield.
They will look like low res versions of the real thing of course, but how noticeable is the question.
Austin Gray
whats the rough price for something like a forumware fellblade anyway? or like a lucius warhound?
Leo Garcia
They are awesome. Make more and post results.
Brandon Price
Warhounds are like 20-25 iirc.
Matthew Stewart
Here's sort of what I have. There's more of the little ones but the whole selection is there. I started pretty simplistic with the ork deathroller things, the plague drones and the big death guard tank which is sort of meant to be a plaguereaper. I did them from memory when I was bored on a weekend. The little yellow landspeeders are kinda my own thing I made with the marines that snapped off their bases as we played. I did a better job with the imperial fists fellblade and then moved on the making the titans which were a lot of fun. They look okay, you can see I'm no master painter from the gw models I have, but I'm pretty proud of the homemade stuff. These are about a year old but it might be fun to make something else, what should I make next?
Connor Price
multiple images how
David Bailey
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Matthew Campbell
The first thing I did was actually to turn some of the 40 billion rhinos I have into vindicators with cardboard and sprue bits to indulge my SPG fetish
Angel Young
If you want an easy ork force try plastic card its as simple as doing papercraft. The Epic Ork gargants are essentially just metal boxes in design anyway. Add ork bits if you have any. All you need is infantry and your ork army will look as good as the real thing.
Nolan Gonzalez
So if I want to make a Motor Platoon style army, should I be playing Steel Legion? Anyone have a decent starter list for Net Epic in that style?
I would TOTALLY play you. These creations really capture the essence of the designs.
Noah Nguyen
>Have any of you guys ever tried to play epic games in a campain
Most of the old Epic games had rules for campaign games and Titan crews gaining experience and skills.
Epic 40k allowed every detachment to gain experience and had campaign rules, but Epic Armageddon did away with it, because it is obsessed with tourney play.
Asher Bell
So why did epic drop off? Did GW kill it because it cannibalized 40k sales?
Mason Garcia
Sorry dude, even if I felt like referring you, the caster doesn't accept random people off the internet. The guy actually asks questions about how I know you and ask for your full name so he can check you out on social networks.
Levi Reyes
Like all Specialist Games they couldn't figure out a way to sell people miniatures for the game every week so they killed it off.
Jose Hill
gotta try y'know, I want sum of dem tiny dudes...
Adam Ross
I don't think that's necessarily it. I'm a pretty old dude and i've been in this hobby for more than 20 years. The main problem is that the release of Epic 40,000 really tore the community in two. A lot of people didn't like the rules at all and as a result didn't want to play the game. It then became harder to get a game depending on which side of the isle you fell on. People looking from the outside in saw it and said fuck that noise, i'll just play 40K where getting a game isn't a problem. As a result there wasn't a constant infusion of new blood and as a result both communities gradually died off.
I still play Net Epic from time to time with a friend of mine. I'm hoping that the new AT will bump up some local interest for either Net Epic or Epic Armageddon once it's finally released.
Those forumware sculpts are fucking incredible. I honestly think they're of better quality than the stuff Forgeworld released back when they were doing Specialist games stuff.
Austin Moore
ahahah . That shit is golden.
Brayden Smith
I liked space marine/titan legions, and didn't like the overhaul /changes with armageddon. I grew to like it (probably more) but only after GW stopped selling models. So it was probably a 3 way split between versions
Jayden Moore
So I dug up my old, nearly untouched epic collection of marines
What the fuck can I do with these guys
Justin Ramirez
Paint them up, obviously.
Unless you want to just sell them.
Nicholas White
I mean list wise, I have no idea if that many tacticals(?) and land raiders is dumb or not
Owen Powell
Who made those miniatures?
Elijah Perez
>Who made those miniatures?
You did. You just forgot about them.
Jackson Diaz
So they are conversions and homemade sculps?
Juan Hall
Here's the PDF version.
There is one in the NetEA section of the list builder webapp (traitor-legion.appspot.com) and its development is discussed in the Tactical Command forum. But you're better off running them with a marine list because that's what the models line up with.
They must be having discussions in private, because the EpicAU forums really are dead, and it's not happening anywhere else I know of. Epic 30k has some balance issues anyway. The larger formations mean that going first is a pretty harsh advantage, especially if you manage to get two activations in a row.
Nolan Harris
Yes, they're the mechanized Guard list. Here's a sample:
INFANTRY COMPANY [300] Commander, 12 Infantry, 2 Ogryns
TANK COMPANY [650] 9 Leman Russ, 1 Vanquisher
ARTILLERY BATTERY [250] 3 Basilisks
ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150] 6 Rough Riders
SENTINEL SQUADRON [100] 4 Sentinels
FLAK BATTERY [150] 3 Hydra
VULTURE SQUADRON [300] 4 Vultures
THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150] 2 Thunderbolts
The idea is that, for armies with cheapish but slow formations, you should keep one on your rearward objective. Then I have two large formations that try to take the opponents'. Be sure your two most expensive formations aren't the same cost; bad for the Break Their Spirit victory condition. For support you have to have at least a little anti-air, and the planes can either provide more or hunt down broken formations. A scout unit or two are valuable too. It's perfectly reasonable to use more artillery but I'd avoid using the company; too vulnerable. Few people use Vultures, that's just me.
Henry Williams
Almost everyone who liked 3rd edition (Epic 40,000) liked 4th edition (Armageddon), while fans of 1st and 2nd moved to NetEpic.
The bad news is that you need 3000 points and the dreadnoughts are a lot better accompanying devastators. Try eBay; Vanguard's marines are rather large for mixing in with old plastic minis, and Onslaught's have boobs (but are closer in scale - oh, and their Athenas/Terminators aren't really noticeably female). One option is to go Slaanesh and use Onslaught's Fallen Sisters to fill in the ranks.
But back to eBay: I see bikes, Rhinos (which everyone should have except Devs w/ Dreads), and infantry at decent prices.
Jace Long
Brilliant, thanks! Now to find models that are reasonably priced.
Gavin Gray
It's pretty easy with humans - Vanguard (Tusculum Nova) and Onslaught (Terran Federation, maybe some Grudd artillery and Denizens/Mercenaries for Arbites/PDF) will have you well covered. Vanguard's Centurion (not-Leman Russ) tanks are great, and they're among the few Vanguard vehicles that aren't oversized, imo. Most of the turret variants are for the Minervan all-tanks list.
Jace Carter
You can also buy from Trolls Under The Bridge on ebay. I picked up pretty much all of my Leman Russes (Russi?) from them and the prices are pretty reasonable (4.5-5 bucks a tank) and the quality is great.
Justin Stewart
I have always wanted to do a space skaven army, and recently found pic related for 6mm.
Now I was wondering which army you all think would work well for this? I was thinking maybe renegades AKA lost and the damned or just using guard. But they also have these "power armored rats" so maybe I could do Space Marines? What are your thoughts anons?
Michael Smith
Orks.
Zachary Ward
Yeah, makes sense. Mostly for the infantry because you've got a nice nobz/boyz/grots breakdown. The downside is that ork lists get pretty complicated. And a lot of their models have open cockpits so you can't just use Vanguard's not-ork bikes and other light vehicles. Maybe use "Skinnerz Micro Tanks" as buggies?
Is there a Renegades/Lost and the Damned list that people like? I know there was a Vraksian list but it's really just the Steel Legion list plus a few goodies.
Kayden Sullivan
Might run them as orks, could easily fluff the grots as slaves, boyz as clanrats, and nobs as stormvermin.
Although, my other question is what models to use as my vehicles. I have been looking around, and the Vanguard ork models sadly wouldn't work so well.
If I do the renegades/guard tho the vanguard Novans work super well of course. Which I might just end up doing.
>tfw you immediately recognize the shadowcat that isn't a shadowcat
Charles Garcia
Man there really is a lot of great third party stuff, bookmarked that.
Levi Miller
Vanguard miniatures really are great, probably the most reasonable supplier of "Definitely not Epic" miniatures I've come across.
Brandon Diaz
I'm a Battlefleet Gothic fag and want to play a sector wide campaign by combining Epic and BFG (and possible Zone Mortalis for boarding actions). Roughly what timescale do Epic Battles take place in? Hours? Days? Is it easy/possible/impossible to integrate it with a BFG battle?
Tyler Smith
I can see that haha. funny you say that, the other game I dont play nearly enoughis battletech, still have to paint the other half of those starter set mechs, the backlog backloggens...
