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Reminder not to pet the authors.

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I am, of course, the exception to this rule.

How do you handle walls of text in cyoas?

My current project has a massive lore dump on the first page, and I'm worried it might scare some anons off.

Advice that I'd give to you, not just as a cyoa author, but generally as a writer; Avoid lore dumps at all, if possible.

The rule of "show don't tell" doesn't apply to anything written for obvious reasons, but the general concept is still important. Try to weave lore into the general body. If there's a situation where you think the readers need to know something, ask yourself these questions:

1: Do the reader REALLY need to know? Are they missing important context, or is it just "pointless" fluff?

2: Can you work an explanation into it?

Ex. Your reader doesn't understand that guns shoot bullets, so rather than an aside where you explain guns need bullets, you write "guns are powerful, but are limited by their ammunition, bullets."

Perhaps not the best example, but you get the point.

3. Can you work it into something else?

As in the above, but in another option.

Ex. "Whilst a big stick won't deal as much damage as a gun, it can operate independently of bullets, which guns cannot."

4. Can you work it into something irrelevant?

Ex. "Dave was mistrustful of guns, due to their reliance of bullets."

This works particularly well as it can help add flavour to other choices/elements. If done well, at least.

Hope this helped

Just make sure you don't hide the game mechanics in a wall of text.

Is there a BnHA CYOA?

>You will never pat SDA's head right between her kitty ears when she gets upset or overwhelmed and tell her it's all gonna be okay
Life is truly merciless at times...

I want to pet Angieanon.

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anons, what would you want to see in a comfy camping tent CYOA? The tent would have both internal and external features.

Shit, nigga. I'm camping right now.
Go for it.

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I'm the last person who should be giving advice on text walls, but see if you can boil your lore down a bit, then figure out how to convey them in the actual options. Hopefully, your world and your options are related, so when you explain an option mechanically you can also drip feed lore through that explanation.

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>Go for it.
Oh, I am. Right now. But what would you most want in terms of (low power, no immortality here) magic stuff from a magic tent?

Enjoy the camping, regardless!

>Left

>Right

>glowing, floating light
Warm, inviting, but not hot or dangerous.
>backpack of fresh laundry
Anything you put in that is dirty or sweaty comes out clean and fresh
>lavender perfume
Puts insects and forest spirits into a good mood, encouraging them to sing softly but not bite
>water bottle
Lightweight and self filling within reason, the water tastes the way mountain spring water "should" (just a hint of pine/mint and very cool) rather than the way it realistically does
>sleeping bag
Teddy-best print

requesting that really good 3 or 4 parter sci-fi one with a ton of companions to choose from

>inb4 ZBG's Dumping For Attention
There are only 12 images in the thread, at least In not just shitposting

>Left

Order
>Shield

Powers
>Inspiration
>Divine Might
>Protection

Weapon
>Warhammer

Armor
>Power Armor

Artifact
>Griffin Egg

Stronghold
>Castle

Companion
>Oracle
>Dire Wolf

Nemesis
>Crusaders

The Road Ahead
>Lord

>Right

>Back

>Fires are easy to start, and maintain
>Smoke no longer actively seeks you face
>Bugs leave you alone
>Flocks of birds won't land above your tent and wake you up an hour before dawn
>Large predators and territorial herbivores will leave your campsite alone
>Animals are friendly, and delicious
>The ground is even, warm, and comfortable
>Wind won't blow your tent away
>Rain won't get into your tent
>Snow won't crush your tent
>The sun won't turn your tent into an oven
>Water is easy to find, and won't kill you
>Trees won't fall and kill you
>Reliably edible mushrooms grow nearby that won't kill you
>Reliably fun mushrooms grow nearby that won't kill you
>Wild edibles in general grow nearby
>Cooking pan, and oil that won't burst into flames on your campfire
>Rope
>Infinite toilet paper
>Clean latrines
>A dog
>A cat is fine, too
>Maybe a human, but only if they're cool
>God damn, I could go for some eggs right now
>Loading bench of unlimited reloads
>Coffee
>Fuck off, you dumbass skunk
>Did I mention rope?


>Enjoy the camping
I can't not.

Picking right was the r correct choice

How did you get that L upside down?

Power of dubs, user

Realm:
>The Free Cities (Braavos) +ruling house

Profession:
>The Coin (+higher education)

Gift:
>Tools of the Trade (Dragonglass weapons)

Companions:
>Muwari Vaballatha

Curse:
>Disfigurement

The plan is simple. Use my gold and business to colonize the lands Beyond the Wall. It's not like the wildlings are properly using it (they don't even know how to use a freaking windmill, for petes sakes). In no time what was previously a barbaric wasteland will turn into my own little merchant republic. Depending on when in the Game of Thrones timeline this CYOA happens I could either do this now (if it happens years before any of the current troubles exist) or I could do it after the White Walkers are beaten back. Just in case the White Walkers still cause trouble I have my Dragonglass weapon and the daggers to hopefully do some damage and provide some defense. My companion, Vaballatha, is a rich man, and his insistence on paying my expenses will save me money in the long run.

dumbass

>>Loading bench of unlimited reloads

That sadomasochist makes me moist.

>Avenger

>Divine Might
>True Sight
>Smiting

>Sword

>Power Armour

>Scabbard

>Sanctuary

>Dire Wolf
>Shaman

>Death Knight
>Khan

>Fallen

Don't mind me, just being that guy

Uhhh...why?

Me too.

>We're happy with anything from Hide and Seek to Warhammer 40k
Immersion broken immediately

Being the ever so elitist book reader, I can assure you that your northern realm just wouldn't work out.

Mode: Reverse Rapture Erotic Horror (I could play noblebright but it seems a bit much)
Joining House Neptune because I'm a sucker like that.

Allure: 3 (+1 from House)
Elusive: 1
Force: 3
Study: 4
Threat: 2

Favorite Class: Language Arts
Friendly (House Points)
Guardian (1 real point): Rapture is a nasty place, but a potent upperclassman who's been above the influence is a good thing to have.
Inherent Magic: Vow (6 Points). At least if I can get someone to agree to something I can be sure it will be followed through
Crush (+2 Points): It's probably a dangerous bad idea, but there's this one Themis girl...
Leftover Points: 4, going to stats (already reflected above)

Mysteries: Fairy Rings, Restricted Section, and Neptune Break-ins. The rings could be handy, and the Restricted section is high effort high reward. The Break-ins are convenient but possibly not super useful...

ENEMY: I pulled a Stalker from House Venus going for the "Controlled" Dark Fate... well, it's certainly not good, but it could be worse.

Most of what you said makes sense, I suppose I just need to practice weaving the lore between gameplay.

My only issue with this is that whenever I want to explain something, something else needs to be explained for the first to make sense. This quickly spirals out of control for me.

Just now butting into the conversation, and I have the same problem, but something that helps me cut back a bit is trying to focus first on what the player can interact with. By which I mean, am I explaining things in third person, or can I bring in a character to 'interact' with the player instead, and how much exactly do I need to explain before they are making choices, as in, how quickly can I move the 'conversation' to one where they can give some kind of feedback before I explain things in more detail.

I'd rather stay inside.

Please don't kill yourself.

It's okay user, I'll only kill myself after I finish the cyoa.

>something else needs to be explained for the first to make sense.
Not always. Sometimes, you can drop a hint about something, then explain what that hint actually refers to later. It helps keep the reader on their toes.

Oh, thank you for reminding me.

>Electricity that I don't have to go through hoops to acquire

I mean, we know that the Frostfangs must have at least copper and tin deposits, since the Thenn have made a small kingdom which uses bronze weapons. Combine that with the timber from the whole region and the furs from the wildlife, and if you're not opposed to slavery you might as well just take the people too like with what happened to Hardhome. Sure, it won't be a great agricultural region with the cold weather, but you can still make a good amount of money from it.

That's a funny picture. I need to watch more anime. It doesn't fill the void in my heart, but it helps a lot.

There are muptiple references to modern technology and such, how is mentioning 40K or Hide and Seek break your immersion?

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sorry i fucked up trying to make the new thread... I'll do better next time.

The 40k part was the straw that broke the camels back, I can imagine them having equivalent tech but the rest of the girls seemed ignorant about the particulars of our world. I would make no sense for them to be able to namedrop that game. The allusions to them looking at 4chins was cheeky and made me roll my eyes but that bit was just too much.

>/cyoag/ becomes sentient
We have created a horrific creature...
We must not let it survive.

Don't screw it up, ever again.

The ultimate waifu: Sentient CYOA Thread.

Just because Earth has no contact with Zodiac, doesn't mean Zodiac has no contact Earth.
Each girl has internet access my friend.
Sorry if it ruined things for you though user.

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I mean it didn't ruin things for me, it was still enjoyable, it was just kind of a moment that made me roll my eyes I guess. I did still like the CYOA overall though.

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>Ultimate Waifu
>Sentient CYOA Thread
Are you insane?!
If /cyoag/ were a Waifu she'd be like an even more unstable version of pic related!

if the text takes up noticeably more space than the pictures, it's too much for me (though the size of the text obviously matters too)

you could try splitting up the lore into a number of sections (for example, talk about the people, races, cultures, etc in the companions section)

Root Beer. It just seems to give me the best of what I want in life.

The fantastic. Sounds like a fantasy world, so yeah, going with this one.

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>Sounds like a fantasy world, so yeah, going with this one.
You willn't be disappointed.

>Age: 15
CHALLENGE: Something in the Dark! (0)
>Modern Suburban Tokyo World (0)
>Athleticism (3)
>Back Row Seat (4)
>Little Steel Blade (2)
>Cool Snow Globe (3)
>Golden Star Staff (4)
Probably learn teleportation, it's the most subtle one.
>Me? (2)
>Mayumi (1)
>Fumie (1)

I considered doing the challenge with a Fantasy World, but figured "hey, why not be a magical girl/go super-edge". A big sister to keep my potentially psychotic tendencies in check, and I guess Fumie as another moral anchor, as I realize that someone appreciates me in a much greater way. Also, I've always thought the Me? option was the best.

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P-e-r-f-e-c-t

>Futa/Zombie
I have acquired a new combo fetish.

Would you play a CYOA that is a multiple choice story (like classic CYOAs) with rewards at the end?

>Hero Academy
>School
Odesium
>Classes
Smithing III
Knowledge III
Tactic I
First Aid I
Ranged Combat I
Teamwork I
>Chosen Class
Airship Training
>Classmates
Malyvin
Hana
Silene
Liene
Chandara
>Events
Escort
Security
Blind Date
>Clubs and Organizations
Cultural Club

>School
St. Flares

>Classes
Year 1- Potion Mixing, Ranged Combat
Year 2- Stealth, Potion Mixing II
Year 3- Maneuvers, Illusion
Year 4- Druidism, Monster Hunting
Year 5- Potion Mixing III, Illusion II
Bookworm Bonus- Physical Training, Martial Combat
Exchange Class- Diplomacy

>Companions
Malyvin
Luvyna
Valerie Bluewood

>Events
The Great Tournament- The Great Hunt
The Harvest Festival- Basilisk Den
The Grand Summit- Research Proposal

>Clubs
Paranormal Research

>Drawbacks
Bookworm
Exchange Program

I don't see why not, sounds like fun.

Only if the waifus are good.

I don't really know anything about graphic design and am sort of coming up with this all as I go along. A, is this an obnoxious way of doing shapes and textures and stuff, B, should the white follow the contours more exactly like the top or just be a box like the bottom, and if it should look like the top should the text also follow said contour?

Is it weird I hear him as this guy?

Well, this looks like a fun affair, don't it?

>B-02 GRACE, M-06 SKILL, S-09 MAGIC
Super-fast! Super-powerful! The perfect combination!

>Lucianna of House Leo
Angelica's a pretty gallant gal, but not my type (subhuman, and all). The others before her were pretty boring. Suri's too shady, Catherine, while an onee-sama, lacks the greatness of Lucianna, and everyone else past that is a nutcase. She also seems to be a pretty passionate person. I need that fire in myself, too. Together, we will grasp victory with a burning grip!

I don't mind it

We believe in you!

Here's the real problem. How is SHE having sex with a zombie? It's a female zombie, yet SHE is somehow penetrating it. I KNOW she can't have a penis.

I bet you do Doctor penis

either or with the border contour
but i think the text should NOT follow the contour

>Garbage Queen
>Perfect
I knew there was a lot of shit taste in this thread, but I had no idea things were anywhere near this dire...
She's not even the best girl in the series you fucking troglodyte.

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Faggot.
Junko a Best.

Not even remotely.
Just give him a British or Scottish accent and that's fairly close to how I thought of him sounded.
Which is actually fairly close to the dub of Slayer's voice.
Coincidently, I'm unable to read thes intro without hearing it in Rob Cantor's voice:
youtu.be/o0u4M6vppCI

>Regal Fortune Cookie
>Red Bean Soup
>Almond Biscuit
>Lucky Charm Bracelet
>Jade Ring
>Long
>Mute

cringe

Always love to see new builds for WotZB!
>Lucianna
You have no idea how hard it was to make her different enough from Nero but still have her be the character I wanted her to be.

Simple.
Git gud fagget

Or spread the lore throughout. I don't need to know the king's uncle's second in command has a horse named George.
Tell me the most important shit and spread the rest out so I have to search for it. Keep me engaged and interested.

muumuu

Vitality, analysis, magic
Alone