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>necrons are bad because they didn't do well at an event where everyone was spamming their only weakness

You have to look at the whole picture. A grand total of 0 of you guys are playing the top BAO lists because none of us are dedicated enough to waste that much time and money buying 6 Storm Ravens (which are FAQ nerfed now) and 200 conscripts just to have a meme WAAC army that will suck in a year, so yeah, Necrons are powerful. Just wait until you play a good Necron build with any army that's not Armored Company or Flying Metal Circus.

Better than being in the Stomachs of our Pokemon.

My brother got some primaras marines. What type of unit are they? Normal muhreens? Fast attack? Heavy? Idk famalam

Transports.

It depends which marines they got.

I cannot see these guys as anything but completely idiotic. Intercessors, Hellblasters and Reivers look good, better than normal Marines, and the Apothecary is gorgeous. Other characters are all decent, but all their big stuff looks retarded. Giant flying babies on skis, even stupider Centurions, a tank with WAY too many random guns and the usual boring brick shape, etcetera.

Also, watching all the Marine players argue and panic about being replaced is hilarious, especially given that my army is Admech and thus almost guaranteed to keep ticking along with decent rules for the next forever and maybe get some new toys to bump them up to good at some point. For once, being the posterboys and getting tons of new toys has bitten them in the ass.

Gw getting sued for 62.5 mill for Price fixing, breach on contract in America. Marines have a 50,000% mark up on them.
spikeybits.com/2017/08/games-workshop-is-being-sued-for-62-5m.html

Disclaimer: I don't play Necrons.

If the army is good, it should be able to deal with anything at the top level to some extent that other non-top armies did. They can't just happen to be countered by both horde spam AND flyer spam and amazing against everything else.

Fake news. The case won't make it to court and the ramblings of a fucking crazy old retard do not equal facts, we have no idea what the mark-up on Marines is.

Even if his cost of plastic is accurate, the raw material is not the only cost of production. The guy is just looking for an easy payoff and he won't get it.

>watching all the Marine players argue and panic about being replaced is hilarious
I think you need to get off the internet, user, that was the only place where idiots were huffing about being "replaced".
Necron dex is considered very balanced, whereas all of the winners in the tournament people like to quote were outlier lists based on whatever the most OP set up that can be found is.
If more armies were like Necrons, tournaments would be a lot more interesting, a lot fewer expected results.

Half of the 40k tourney scene if not more has for years has been pay to win types.

Why would it be any different now?

This is so obviously fake.

In reality the marine would just rip out the metal bar if he tried to hang on it.

F for fatheads

First why is your dick so small yet so visible in those pyjama trousers, second why are you wearing them so late, thirdly what's your height as that will define a large part
inb4 manlet

What're their names again?

New Eldar models fucking when?

Anyone have any large, good line art sideviews of marine weapons? Specifically whatever pattern of heavy bolter this is. Looking to make some props.

Never.
Fuck the AELDARI or whatever the fuck they are called

if you would dip your models in army painter quickshade strong tone and spray them with anti-shine, your figures would look a fuckton better.

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>that was the only place where idiots were huffing about being "replaced".

Doesn't make it less funny. Quite happy about Primaris honestly, they look much better to fight against and have lots of interesting bitz on their sprues that I'd like to get my hands on. The Apothecary parts in particular would look great for outfitting my Genetor Magi.

After tyranids why didn't they get a triumverate they're the main antagonist of 40k

Fun fact: Devilfish are immune to being charged. Their flight stand takes the hull more than 1"+Base Thickness, and since you have to measure from base to hull because of the "Hover Tank" rule, you'll never be able to get within 1" when charging.

They seriously need to go edition by edition and update models. No reason CSM and Eldar still have shitty 3rd and 4th edition models.

Right after Plastic Flesh hounds, Havocs/Chosen and a new Warbuggy

Fatheads.

i can stand on platform near devilfish

If I needed bodies to soak up shots and tarpit units I want to keep my 1ksons away from, should I use cultists or tzaangors. And would squads of 10 be fine or should I all in on 20?

I'd argue that the Patriarch, Primus and Magos of the genestealer cult are a kind of tyranid/Genestealer mixed triumvirate, just like the one with the baby slaanesh is a triumvirate of multiple eldar factions.

>implying I don't convert my models to have tendrils hanging below their own bases for just such an occasion
sasuga

My favorite is still Mon'Keigh Business

They weren't relevant to Gathering Storm.

They're saving Tyranid updates for a much later plot development when they've gotten all the Primarch wank out of the way.

Also the Tyranid model range is mostly up to date, Eldar need new models much more badly. Nids just need a Codex and they'll have it soon.

In what way were the Stormraven nerfed ?

>Doesn't make it less funny
No, it means you are taking the internet too seriously, user.
It's like the stupid Matt Ward meme that leaked into real life.

They don't count as being on the table.
Thus if your min unit of Tacticals and Captain die you auto lose.

they weren't nerfed, the game was just balanced that flyers didn't count as models on the board for purposes of sudden death.

How is this for an army:

1498 points / 78 PL
Supreme command detachement

1× Pask, punisher, las cannon, plasma sponsons

1x tank commander, bc, las cannon, plasma sponsons

1x tank commander, demolisher, las cannon, melta sponsons

10 veterans; 1x heavy flamer, 3x plasma gun, 1x autocannon, sarge with a plasma pistol and a powersword

1x Chimera, 2x heavy bolters, 1x storm bolter, hk missle

1x knight crusader with a stormspear missle pod and a meltagun

Some of the things he did were k, some things he did, were not k.

If you no units on the board besides airborne units you auto-lose.

You don't measure up, its horizontal distance only.

Is there any cool semi-cheese you can pull off with Ogryns ?

I just want them to be viable and hog ALL the fucking spotlights.

Slabshields with astra psykers seems legit.

Anything else ?

Again, not looking for WAAC, I just wanna duke it out AGAINST WAACfags and come out ontop once a while; with OGRYNS.

How would you fix the Vanquisher? I love the idea of just a dedicated tank that kills tanks.

Would S9 and then 2D6 damage do it?

>better than a Neutron Laser
No, fuck off. Post stats that are actually balanced according to other units that are intended to be better.

The actual margin on marines is more like 40-50%.

Molds are expensive and their packaging is not trivial.

Will Death Guard in their codex have access to Dark Hereticus?

They're powers are amazing. Pretty much everything is good. The mortal wounds and str buff one are stiuational but its just so strong.

They can literally murder a commisar on a 4+ after casting a 6+ spell AND gain a spawn.

They can turn off invulnerable saves on a 8, which is high... but you will rape stormshields and girlymen easily after.

You can get +1 to hit, making plasma amazing.

You can move twice for GOTTA GO FAST and turn 1 deep strike charges.

Fuck, so good.

for 25 points it's fine. Just grab the FW one with a co-axle for rerolls to hit.

Oh, ok. That's only bad news for WAACfags.

Abaddon list of vanquished opponents :

-Loken (highly likely twice). Broken body left in the rubble.
-Sigismund the Emperor's Champion. Was known as the best blademaster in Imperial history. Disembowelment via the Talon of Horus
-Kharn the Blood God's chosen. Pinned and losing consciousness due to ironically blood loss, he could not struggle out of Drach'nyen slowly descending towards his head. Got saved by a Bloodthirster
-Celestine Avatar of the Emoeror and the Last of the Living Saints. Overpowered and backhanded to the ground by Abaddon.

Is there any character in the setting that can defeat Abaddon in a duel?

Rerolls wounds.

Deals 2d3 damage instead of d6.

I've just realised why I hate the Ultramarines. They're perfect to a hilarious non-ironic level.

>They can literally murder a commisar on a 4+ after casting a 6+ spell AND gain a spawn.
Firstly you need to get within 6", which you will never, ever do against a good player, and if you think otherwise you've never played against the conscript terror.

Secondly you have to pay points for that spawn.

s9 and 2d6 against non-titanic VEHICLES only

Perhaps a price bump too.

Seeing as there isn't a 40krpg general up, I have a question for folks who've done Only War.

Have any of you played/GM'd No Surrender?

How is it?

It's a little too obvious the guy is looking for a pay out.
Trying to leverage the influences that helped get 40k started decades later gives it away.

I love that the thunderhawk and stormbird aren't affected by this because they're LoW

>realized just now

No one cares carnac

Newbie here

I have a set of rubric marines and tzaangors from a box. Once I start acquiring more dudes, how do I actually put together an army? I know the basic rules but I don't understand how army lists work. Should I go by the "power" listing or by points if I'm not trying to go hard?

Yes, you do.

>Will Death Guard in their codex have access to Dark Hereticus?

No. They'll get their own powers. Bring an allied Sorc if you want.

Link to old thread which is STILL on page 7

S10 AP-4 D6. Counts damage of 1-2 as 3

>They can literally murder a commisar on a 4+ after casting a 6+ spell AND gain a spawn.
If you can actually get close enough to spawn a commissar then he's already done his job.

Originally I thought it was ironic, as in, mocking. But reading the 8th edition codex it's clear it's not meant as ironic.

>Forge World shit is still OP
Color me surprised.

>whenever Commissar tries to force Conscripts to pass a morale check, roll a D6. On a 4+, unit will pass a morale check and take a mortal wound; otherwise, unit will fail moral and Commissar will be removed as a casually

Y/N?

I might actually do that you know. I like Word Bearers, Alpha Legion and Black Legion.

Could start a small force of them to ally with my Death Guard in a separate detachment.

And the memery was worse.
Amusingly enough, the same people who bitched about Ward were the same types who complained about 8e. Fuck'em.

go by points, its more commonly used.

if you run into the odd fellow using levels, its easier to to figure out you levels on the fly.

Deep down inside I know you do. I believe in you, user!

D3 shots OR 2d6 rolls for damage against vehicles, pick the highest. Both if the point cost would increase.

If you think paying 1000 points for a non-macro turbolaser and 10 heavy bolters is OP, I guess

You can't make that claim when you don't even know what was being played and in what numbers.

BAO is the same event where orks DE and CSM have all had tops in 6E and 7E. Simply making statements based on top lists is retarded.

Go points, power is just suppoused to give rough balance. Next you should buy this games-workshop.com/en-GB/exalted-sorcerers , then one of this games-workshop.com/en-GB/start-collecting-chaos-space-marines , and build the terminator lord as a terminator lord

Can't wait to ruin those Thunder hammer termi dickheads

Heretek discipline when?

>being this new

come on, at least educate yourself.

FW shit needs to leave.

>Is there any character in the setting that can defeat Abaddon in a duel?
Girlyman probably. Abaddon's plot armor and GW's desperate attempt to make him seem badass pales in comparison to the illumination of the Ultramarines plot armor and GW's desperate attempt to make them seem badass .

warhammer-community.com/2017/05/30/new-warhammer-40000-choosing-your-army-may30gw-homepage-post-4/

>Pask
Why not Heavy Bolter sponsons?
He doesn't have rending anymore, so his role is more anti-infantry than tackling monsters or vehicles.
I know units can choose multiple targets now, but it's still better to specialise in one role.

If you make conscripts unable to affected by orders theyre hardly worse than poxwalkers

Only thing more saddening than utter void that is Abaddon's character is BLs failing to make people take him seriously despite trying so damn hard.

>2d6 rolls for damage against vehicles, pick the highest.
That is what it already has.

Nope. E-mail GW and ask, tell me what they say when you try and claim Devilfish are literally immune to being charged. Go on.

Someone said renegades don't get access to any command traits or "Votlw" style stratagems... is that true?!
Why use them then?!

played a game today, chaos demons and EC csm vs guard, 1750 he brang 7 tanks is this a dick move?

They're like 750 points. Not OP.

>guard
>not playing baneblade creed
He did well on you user

In what way?
How Guilliman came back, looked at the Ultramarines, and asked them why they were fucking up so bad?
That they are winning, being led by one of the most capable commanders the Imperium has ever had?

Archaon at least had an arc

Abaddon is just the same asshole he was in 30k but with SSJ4(tied directly to his top knot length rather than hair color)