So what are your space bucks worth?

So what are your space bucks worth?

I'm thinking about making mine worth 1e-7 g of antimatter or ~9 MJ

20'333 kilos of gold for the lowest value unit.

Have you ever thought about how the 'proof of work' is a cryptocurrency is just proof of entropy? A given newly-mined BitCoin, optimized a bit by competition, means a given amount of usable energy resources turned into waste heat.

Well my campaign's baddies have done the same thing writ large. Each verifiably destroyed unique intelligent species generates 1 GenoBuck. (Ordinary everyday transactions are in the billionths of a buck.) The baddies are now after humans for their economy's next buck. They're the first to lament how terrible the system is, but they're so far past scarcity they don't see any viable replacement.

OP here,
In the setting I'm writing I'm making a utopian capitalist society

Lots of other sci-fi societies have been covered but never capitalist utopia
>socialist utopia- Star Trek
>socialist distopia- any regime book ever
>capitalist distopia- cyberpunk

Has anyone made a society like this? How would a society like this function on a galactic scale?

A splinter empire in my setting uses labour performed for the government as a basis for their currency's value much like the nazis did prior to WWII. This isolates their economy from larger economic downturns and all but prevents others meddling with their economy beyond military action against their factories or material resources.

The Union of Human Worlds use a currency backed by energy; the Alliance of Separatist Colonies use corporate shares as currency (each of the colonies is set up as a corporation with residents being both employees and shareholders).

Capitalism utopia is any 1st world country today. You pretty much need to have some kind of scarcity and inequality to justify capitalism, and it sort of works out more or less.

On a galactic scale it would work just like in modern times, assuming you keep the technology fairly reasonable (more like Expanse and definitely not Star Trek). Extremely long-distance trade is slow and expensive, so most populated systems have their own version of global economy that include dystopian hellholes where the simple goods and basic laborers come from and advanced places that consume these goods.

The only real issues 1st world countries have are poverty or caused by poverty. (Well, and pollution, war, etc, but those have nothing to do with the economic model you're exalting)
All "utopian capitalism" really needs is a task that anyone can do that produces enough value to live at a decent standard. Once you invent something to fill that role, basically every problem of capitalism drops out.

It's extreme post scarcity, i.e. They have access to a dimension of pure antimatter

That's why the currency is worth it

What would be a job that everyone could do in a society like this?

Poverty is a built-in feature of capitalism. If you're implementing society-wide systems to alleviate poverty and make life good for everyone involved, you're getting dangerously close to a "socialist utopia".

Extreme post-scarcity world wouldn't be capitalist in any meaningful sense. The same way anarchy and tribalism fall apart when you have a large enough group, capitalism falls apart when you no longer have scarcity.

Well resource differences are a part of capitalism, not poverty

You do have scarcity, the dimension can only produce so much energy.

So a form of scarcity and currency

>The only real issues 1st world countries have are poverty or caused by poverty.
Don't matter, in the capitalist utopia its only the few and hard working that get the utopia.

Poverty is highly undesirable, unless you radically change what poverty means (and not making it godawful will likely require socialism) so you cannot have poverty in a utopia. Therefore a capitalist utopia will have a solution to poverty that is not the "government gives money/resources" answer of socialism.
And I didn't say "society-wide systems", I said a task that anyone can do.

Then it's not a utopia.

If you leave something to the free market, you are essentially saying that you're okay with some people not having it. If you leave things like food, housing, etc. solely to the market, then you will get homeless and starving people no matter how many houses there are and how much food is produced. First world countries have massive food surpluses, food often just goes to waste. Yet absent state intervention there is still food insecurity.

>Then it's not a utopia.
Its an utopia for those that matter.

It is possible for a society to have people who care for the poor, but still retains capitalism

Such as non profit organizations

The thing about FTL and infinite power is that is causes a bunch of things to lower in value(such as food)

To get larger things you have to spend more space bucks

Utopia is by definition an unattainable imagined state of being. The word "dystopia" is comparably recent and it means pretty much the same thing as utopia, just through a more deconstructive lense.

if you look at some of the earlier stories about apparent utopias (like Gulliver's Travels from 18th century, but it's by no means the first) they can generally be summarized as following: Outsider comes into an apparently perfect society. He stays there for a while, notices holes and realizes that while the utopia seems perfect at first glance, it really isn't. Then he leaves.

What you're describing is basically what I'm describing, just in different terms.
I put it as "people get enough money to not suffer from poverty".
You put it as "everything's cheap so nobody suffers from being poor". The implicit subtext is that people also have jobs that pay enough to buy the things needed to make life not suck.

The alternative is non-profit charities, but that's just non-government socialism.

Let's look at this let's say a man requires 3100 Cal to burn each day, and is working a 9-5 minimum wage job(7.25 space buck) he makes 65.25 bucks each day for a total of 587 MJ

3100 Cal * 4.184 KJ = 12970.4 KJ or 13 MJ

13 MJ for a days food( probably at 3 markup) = 39 or about 4.5 space bucks

He could feed himself on 1 dollar an hour, live ok on 4 dollars an hour

And he has a minimum wage job in which 7% of his income is based on food

>war
>real issue
There's a halfass puppet war where no one can be bothered to remember which side they're backing in a region that refuses to develop.
And there's an endless gangwar in Africa over who gets the money from selling tantalum to phone manufacturers.

That's it.
Those are the only wars right now.


We're actually at an all-time high for peace.

War is fleeting, human misery is forever. Part of the human condition and all.

If you like immature libertarian fantasies, I suggest Heinlein's Moon is a Harsh Mistress. It's a pretty good setting if you skip author's highschooler level political screeds.

That book was ass.
>It's a pretty good setting if you [...]
Fair cop.
>human misery is forever
You can beat it as it comes. Take your nihilism somewhere else.

>nihilism is accepting that mortal men are fallible and sinful and true happiness is only possible in afterlife
OK.

>there is no point in making things better if they can get worse
>there is no point in keeping things from getting worse
OK.

Fighting back against misery does not eliminate it. A thousand years ago a peasant is miserable because he has nothing to eat and has the plague, today a peasant is miserable because he is fat from shitty food and has the cancer.

Wow nihilism sucks man.

I for one look forward to my afterlife(religion) and our transhumanism(futurist)

That's just incredibly depressing

Nothing. Space belongs to the machines.

1 spacebux = 1 touchdown.

>peasant
Karl Marx lived in the age of peasants.
There are no more 1st world proletariat.

In my setting, thebTerran Federation went communist so all necessities are provided and we get vouchers for luxuries.