/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

Nagasaki Edition

Previous thread: Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.

List of mini providers:
docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit

List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

ZunTsu Gameboxes:
mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

/hwg/ Steam Group:
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Games, Ospreys & References folders:
mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern

mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon Hill
mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_&_Tactics_Magazine
mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
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Other urls found in this thread:

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mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming Compendium.pdf
mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer Ancient Battles 2E.pdf
mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer Ancient Battles - Armies of Antiquity v2.pdf
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mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster Ancient Armies.pdf
mediafire.com/download/5g9004k6c7w21rk/Osprey - BOR 034 - The Roman Army in the Civil Wars 88-31 BC.pdf
mediafire.com/download/gdr30hxxqs43cqc/Osprey - CAM 174 - Pharsalus 48 BC.pdf
mediafire.com/download/jf6hbeffzo98l9r/Osprey - WAR 071 - Roman Legionary 58BC-AD69.pdf
mediafire.com/download/q1exxflp5wjyamf/Osprey - CAM 084 - Adrianople 378.pdf
mediafire.com/download/y97f7zlehreqie9/Osprey - MAA 093 - The Roman Army from Hadrian to Constantine.pdf
mediafire.com/download/7j30o13k9lzy4tc/Osprey - WAR 009 - Late Roman Infantryman 236-565.pdf
mediafire.com/download/zhw5n81y3pz2xru/Osprey - WAR 015 - Late Roman Cavalryman 236-565.pdf
mediafire.com/download/17mja4dp1zvat4f/Osprey - WAR 017 - Germanic Warrior 236-568.pdf
mediafire.com/download/v80w2pt47xk8t8e/S&T 086 - Cedar Mountain.pdf
mediafire.com/download/cdl41h9cyzwpeb2/Osprey - MAA 030 - The Stonewall Brigade.pdf
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>Advanced Squad Leader
mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_&_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer Ancient Battles 2E.pdf
mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer Ancient Battles - Armies of Antiquity v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster Ancients.pdf
mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster Ancient Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Modern Spearhead

August the 9th in military history:

48 BC – Caesar's Civil War: Battle of Pharsalus – Julius Caesar decisively defeats Pompey at Pharsalus and Pompey flees to Egypt.
378 – Gothic War: Battle of Adrianople – A large Roman army led by Emperor Valens is defeated by the Visigoths. Valens is killed along with over half of his army.
1500 – Ottoman–Venetian War (1499–1503): The Ottomans capture Methoni, Messenia.
1610 – The First Anglo-Powhatan War begins in colonial Virginia.
1810 – Napoleon annexes Westphalia as part of the First French Empire.
1814 – Indian Wars: the Creek sign the Treaty of Fort Jackson, giving up huge parts of Alabama and Georgia.
1862 – American Civil War: Battle of Cedar Mountain – Confederate General Stonewall Jackson narrowly defeats Union forces under General John Pope.
1877 – Indian Wars: Battle of Big Hole – A small band of Nez Percé Indians clash with the United States Army
1914 – Start of the Battle of Mulhouse, part of a French attempt to recover the province of Alsace and the first French offensive of World War I.
1942 – World War II: Battle of Savo Island – Allied naval forces protecting their amphibious forces during the initial stages of the Battle of Guadalcanal are defeated by an Imperial Japanese Navy cruiser force.
1944 – Continuation War: The Vyborg–Petrozavodsk Offensive, the largest offensive launched by Soviet Union against Finland during the Second World War, ends to a strategic stalemate.
1945 – World War II: Nagasaki is devastated when an atomic bomb, Fat Man, is dropped by the United States B-29 Bockscar. 35,000 people are killed outright, including 28,200 Japanese war workers, 2,000 Korean forced workers, and 150 Japanese soldiers.
1945 – The Red Army invades Japanese-occupied Manchuria.
1971 – The British Army in Northern Ireland launches Operation Demetrius. Hundreds of people are arrested, thousands are displaced, and twenty are killed in the violence that followed.

It is 2,065 years since the Battle of Pharsalus, a decisive battle of Caesar's Civil War. Julius Caesar and his allies formed up opposite the army of the republic under the command of Pompeius Magnus ("Pompey the Great"). Pompey had the backing of a majority of the senators, of whom many were optimates, and his army significantly outnumbered the veteran Caesarian legions.

The two armies confronted each other over several months of uncertainty, Caesar being in a much weaker position than Pompey. The former found himself isolated in a hostile country with only 22,000 men and short of provisions, while on the other side of the river he was faced by Pompey with an army about twice as large in number. Pompey wanted to delay, knowing the enemy would eventually surrender from hunger and exhaustion. Pressured by the senators present and by his officers, he reluctantly engaged in battle.

Pompey anchored his right flank on the Enipeus River and deployed his men in the traditional formation of three lines, each ten men deep. Knowing that he had a larger and better-trained cavalry force, he concentrated his horse on the left. His plan called for the infantry to remain in place, forcing Caesar's men to charge a long distance and tiring them before contact. As the infantry engaged, his cavalry would sweep Caesar's from the field before pivoting and attacking into the enemy's flank and rear.

Seeing Pompey move off the mountain, Caesar deployed his smaller army to meet the threat. Anchoring his left, led by Mark Antony, along the river, he too formed three lines though they were not as deep as Pompey's. Also, he held his third line in reserve. Understanding Pompey's advantage in cavalry, Caesar pulled 3,000 men from his third line and arrayed them in a diagonal line behind his cavalry to protect the army's flank. Ordering the charge, Caesar's men began advancing. Surging forward, it soon became clear that Pompey's army was standing their ground.

Realizing Pompey's goal, Caesar halted his army approximately 150 yards from the enemy to rest and reform the lines. Resuming their advance, they slammed into Pompey's lines. On the flank, Titus Labienus led Pompey's cavalry forward and made progress against their counterparts. Falling back, Caesar's cavalry led Labienus' horsemen into the line of supporting infantry. Using their javelins to thrust at the enemy cavalry, Caesar's men halted the attack. Uniting with their own cavalry, they charged and drove then enemy cavalry from the field.

Wheeling left, this combined force of infantry and cavalry struck into Pompey's left flank. Though Caesar's first two lines were under heavy pressure from Pompey's larger army, this attack, coupled with the entry of his reserve line, swung the battle. With their flank crumbling and fresh troops assaulting their front, Pompey's men began to give way. As his army collapsed, Pompey fled the field. Seeking to deliver the deciding blow of the war, Caesar pursued Pompey's retreating army and compelled four legions to surrender the following day.

The battle cost Caesar around 1,200 casualties while Pompey suffered roughly 15,000. Additionally Caesar reported capturing 24,000 and showed great clemency in pardoning many the Optimate leaders. His army destroyed, Pompey fled to EgyptI. Shortly after arriving at Alexandria, he was murdered by the Egyptians. Pursuing his enemy to Egypt, Caesar was horrified when Ptolemy presented him with Pompey's severed head.

Classical warfare fans will know this one well, it's a definitive early Roman battle that could swing either way and makes a fine test of tabletop generalship.

mediafire.com/download/5g9004k6c7w21rk/Osprey - BOR 034 - The Roman Army in the Civil Wars 88-31 BC.pdf
mediafire.com/download/gdr30hxxqs43cqc/Osprey - CAM 174 - Pharsalus 48 BC.pdf
mediafire.com/download/jf6hbeffzo98l9r/Osprey - WAR 071 - Roman Legionary 58BC-AD69.pdf

It is 1,639 years since the Battle of Adrianople, fought between a Roman army led by the Roman Emperor Valens and Gothic rebels led by Fritigern. The battle took place about 13 km (8 mi) north of Adrianople (modern Edirne in European Turkey) in the Roman province of Thracia. It ended with an overwhelming victory for the Goths and the death of Emperor Valens.

We have a detailed account for the lead up to the battle from the Roman perspective from Ammianus, which forms the culminating high point at the end of his history. The position in his histories and the lack of a detailed history for the following century has tended to exaggerate the significance of the battle for later historians. Ammianus's account of the battle itself, as to be expected from a losing side, is far from clear. Heat, fire and dust seem to have been particularly significant. Much of what follows about the battle itself is modern supposition.

Valens had decamped from Adrianople, where he left the imperial treasury and administration under the guard of the legions. The reconnaissance of the preceding days informed him of the location of the Gothic camp north of the city. Valens arrived there after marching for seven hours over difficult terrain.

At around 14:30 the Roman troops arrived in disorder, exhausted and dehydrated, facing the Gothic camp that had been set up on the top of a hill. The Goths, except for their cavalry, took position in front of their wagon circle, inside of which were their families and possessions. Fritigern's objective was to delay the Romans, in order to give enough time for the Gothic cavalry to return. The fields were burnt by the Goths to delay and harass the Romans with smoke, and negotiations began for an exchange of hostages. The negotiations exasperated the Roman soldiers who seemed to hold the stronger position, but they gained precious time for Fritigern.

Complacent Roman commanders began the battle without orders to do so, believing they would have an easy victory, and perhaps over-eager to exact revenge on the Goths after two years of unchecked devastation throughout the Balkans. The imperial scholae of shield-archers under the command of the Iberian prince Bacurius attacked, but lacking support they were easily pushed back. Then the Roman left-wing reached the circle of wagons, but it was too late. At that moment, the Gothic cavalry, alerted by messengers from the embattled wagon circle, arrived to support the infantry. The cavalry surrounded the Roman troops, who were already in disarray after the failure of the first assault. The Romans retreated to the base of the hill where they were unable to maneuver, encumbered by their heavy armor and long shields. The casualties, exhaustion, and psychological pressure led to a rout of the Roman army. The cavalry continued their attack, and the massacre continued until nightfall.

In the rout, the Emperor himself was abandoned by his guards. Some tried to retrieve him, but the majority of the cavalry deserted. Valens' final fate is unknown; he probably died anonymously on the field. His body was never found.

This battle is a great piece of Late Roman warfare, a marked contrast to Pharsalus above. The legions are diverse and colorful and the Gothic hordes present a fascinating army to play and collect.

mediafire.com/download/q1exxflp5wjyamf/Osprey - CAM 084 - Adrianople 378.pdf
mediafire.com/download/y97f7zlehreqie9/Osprey - MAA 093 - The Roman Army from Hadrian to Constantine.pdf
mediafire.com/download/7j30o13k9lzy4tc/Osprey - WAR 009 - Late Roman Infantryman 236-565.pdf
mediafire.com/download/zhw5n81y3pz2xru/Osprey - WAR 015 - Late Roman Cavalryman 236-565.pdf
mediafire.com/download/17mja4dp1zvat4f/Osprey - WAR 017 - Germanic Warrior 236-568.pdf

It is 155 years since the Battle of Cedar Mountain was fought during the American Civil War. Union forces under Maj. Gen. Nathaniel P. Banks attacked Confederate forces under Maj. Gen. Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson near Cedar Mountain as the Confederates marched on Culpeper Court House to forestall a Union advance into central Virginia. After nearly being driven from the field in the early part of the battle, a Confederate counterattack broke the Union lines resulting in a Confederate victory.

Jackson had moved north in July 1862 after it became clear that the primary Union force in the east, General George McClellan’s Army of the Potomac, was not going to attack Richmond, Virginia. McClellan was camped on the James Peninsula southeast of Richmond, where General Robert E. Lee stopped him at the Seven Days’ Battles in late June. Frustrated with McClellan’s lack of action, President Abraham Lincoln began shifting troops from the peninsula to Pope’s newly formed Army of Virginia, which was operating near Washington, D.C.

Jackson, who was sent north by Lee to counter the growing Yankee presence in northern Virginia, fell on part of Pope’s force at Cedar Mountain on August 9. Despite being severely outnumbered, Pope’s army dealt Jackson a near-humiliating defeat. Jackson attacked in the afternoon, but a fierce Union counterattack, led by General Nathaniel Banks, almost broke Jackson’s line. The arrival of Confederate General Ambrose P. Hill provided Jackson with enough troops to launch another assault that evening. That attack drove the Federals from the field, and only nightfall prevented a complete rout of the Yankees.

Union losses totaled 2,300 out of 8,000. The Confederates suffered 1,300 casualties out of 18,000. But the battle was nearly a disaster; Jackson miscalculated, and the Confederates almost lost to an army half their size. Clara Barton, founder of the American Red Cross, performed her first field duty at the Battle of Cedar Mountain.

Jackson is a controversial figure in a controversial war, and this particular battle prompts a lot of discussion over his generalship. It was the only time in the entire war when he is recorded as drawing his sword.

Weather and poor communication with his divisional commanders had robbed Jackson of the initiative in the fight. Still expecting to face the same cautious opponent from the Valley, he was taken by surprise and very nearly driven from the field. Excellent commanding by the Confederates at the crucial moment of the battle and the fortuitous arrival of Hill staved off defeat, eventually allowing their numerical superiority to drive the Federals from the field. For his part, Banks, having been soundly defeated by Jackson in the Valley, was anxious to make up for previous losses. Rather than fighting a defensive battle from a strong position because he was outnumbered 2 to 1, giving time for the rest of Pope's army to arrive, he decided to take the initiative and attack Jackson before he could fully form his lines. The bold move very nearly paid off, but in the end he was again defeated by his old foe.

While not a majorly important Civil War battle, I thought it was worth acknowledging for two reasons: it's a classic kind of ACW clash that could be won by either side; and we have an S&T covering it.

mediafire.com/download/v80w2pt47xk8t8e/S&T 086 - Cedar Mountain.pdf
mediafire.com/download/cdl41h9cyzwpeb2/Osprey - MAA 030 - The Stonewall Brigade.pdf

Well this was one hell of an OP, good job on that.

OP delivers.

Who is your favourite daimyo? Mine is konishi yukinaga, kato kiyomasa fags can fuck off.

He almost conquered the whole of japan and was a complete westaboo

Whats everyone working on/playing?

Looking to start my first historic, High Middle Ages period.

What are some decent rank and file systems (prefer 28mm) that aren't totally obscure?

Impetus, DBM, Warhammer Historical Battles

Doing some play-testing for Missile Threat. Vietnam research and aircraft/ordnance lists are all done, as well as a bunch of play-tests. Now moving on to the 6 day war and Yom Kippur war. Learning all about French aircraft and missiles.
Started some research on the Iran Iraq war as well - very interesting and brutal conflict. Interesting to see a helicopter shot down with a maverick missile from an Iranian F-4. I will probably include mechanics to allow this - if a heli is moving slow enough, and fails to evade, it could well get hit by a Maverick.

A friend and I are getting back in the saddle after not playing wargames for a while. We're going with SAGA since it's got a pretty low barrier to entry.

What factions are you guys thinking about playing?

Thinking about getting into saga myself.

He's going Vikings and I'm going Anglo-Danes/Saxons, pretty much just because those are what the cheap plastic 4 point starters are for.

consider 15mm saga

Can I use any miniatures with Black Powder? I only played Warmachine and Warhammer 40K so I have no bloddy idea how this works. Do I get stats listed in the book or do they come with the miniatures?

>Can I use any miniatures with Black Powder?
Any minis you like, most people build their armies from a variety of manufacturers
Welcome to the wonderful world of no longer being beholden to the same overpriced jerks

>Do I get stats listed in the book or do they come with the miniatures?
They're in the rules, yes
The various sourcebooks go into more detail but the core rules contain everything you need

In historicals, miniature manufacturers and rules writers are often completely independent of one another.

Nice!
Can 8mm figurines look nice if you put some effort into them? I seen people do horrible job of panting them. I want 8mm because only Bachus has shiping that is not higher than the set itself, I live in Serbia so shipping can be a problem.

>Can 8mm figurines look nice if you put some effort into them?
Definitely, it'll take practice and effort, but they do look great, and en masse it's a fantastic sight
I don't really know about 8mm as a scale? I heard heard of 6 and 10mm though, and I'm sure its much the same
Anyway google around a bit, have a look at some pics, you'll quickly get the idea

I think if user was thinking about buying Baccus then he's confused 8mm with 6mm. Easy mistake to make, honestly.

So in the end what scale does Baccus sell?
6mm or 8mm? user is confused.

Baccus sells 6mm. 8mm is not a very common scale, honestly.

Where can I get General Darmee rules for free? I want to see if I like them before buying it.

I don't think they are in the repository. Too bad, because there is a pdf version available to buy.

Baccus figures are 6mm "to the eye" which means they are generally 8mm to the top of the hat. Adler these days are basically 8mm to the eye and almost 10mm to the top of the hat.

Many 10mm companies are creeping towards 12, 15s to 18, 25s became 28 and basically everything is getting bigger .

Scale Creep is a bitch, nothing is sold as 8mms, but a surprising no of 6mms basically are.

>order paint
>sry we out of gun metal gray
>order different kind of gray listed as on stock
>get confirmation
>oh ye my man we got 5/6 paints gray is missing tho

What the fuck. I'll have to check with them in person what fucking grey they have on stock.

Also, for painting light grey plastic wehrmact in green, should I prime white or black?

I used black primer for mine(pic related).

It's more forgiving in the sense that if you forget a little corner or something it's a dark shadow and not a flagrant white spot. It's also a better base for metal bits.

Shimazu Yoshihiro. One of the most regularly successful daimyo against the Koreans and Ming Chinese during the Imjin War.

一式半装軌装甲兵車 ホハ

And a ching chong doki doki to you too, friend.

What's a good system to introduce a 10 year old to historicals?

Whatever that one is that uses plastic army men.

Maybe Command and Colours?

Something self-contained like that anyway.

I dunno, I got into wargaming at age 12 with 40k 2nd edition so fuck knows what is actually 'appropriate' in terms of system complexity and style.

That one NEA was making. It had a pretty neat system for reactionary fire too, IIRC. Don't have a PDF handy atm, but I'm sure someone here does.

take them down your local Hampshire town's gaming club and embroil them in a large team game (sort of 3v3 type) which largely takes them out of mechanics and decision making but still lets them roll dice for "their guys"

works 100% of the time.

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Whatever Lindybeige plays, if he can manage it then a child can

This is getting old.

t.angrybrit

I really like the AMX-13. Or just that era of tanks and other vehicles in general.

Have more finesse, guys, are you really gonna let this general die at less than a hundred posts ?

I usually wait till page 9 before a bump

I've got a few of those little guys, the desire to get more armoured cars is real.

Wheeled combat vehicles are one of my fetish. I'm not sure if real world or Battletech is originally to blame.

Armoured Cars are my fetish, famalam. Post em if ya got em

Combining two great flavors.

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COOK THE MAN SOME FUCKING EGGS

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Holy hell, and we're still just in the brit vehicles.

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I actually almost only have Dingos and Daimler Is because I love them deeply and tenderly.

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Nothin' wrong with that.

That is a fair and just reason.

Armoured car turned into a jeep?

Kinda puzzled by this picture. 15th Scottish markings but I read their unit history and it mentioned Humbers.

I've been posting Panhards, so light smattering of French too.

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Post more. Love the mortar one.

Those poor, dumb, young Soviet bastids.