/HHG/ The Horus Heresy General Thread

Ride like the Wind!

Damn Scars was a good book.

Anyone else have a book that completely turned you around/got you interested in a legion?

>That double reply

That's what I get for talking to someone else while trying to post

3k user here. Worked out what to do with my spare 200ish. 10 more vets in a melta rhino

Hey, just got 30 marines and a contempter for a SoH force. I've also got the Abbadon and Loken combo. Would a fire raptor be another good choice for me to grab?

Only if you plan on never running Black Reaving, which is a fair decision to make.

Convince me to join your Legion

Convince me to stay Loyal to the Emperor or go Traitor

Loyalty is it's own reward.

Alpharius, Lion-El, Rogal, Sanguinius, or Jagahti, which of the last five primarchs will be next in the character series, Veeky Forums?

You know what? I'm looking through my old BT Codex right now and you're right that there are a lot of references to things being holy, prayer, etc. However, nothing in the old codex mentions the entire force praying.

I seem to remember Grimaldus saying they don't worship Him in Blood and Fire, and there are some other sources that are ambigious/give the impression that they don't worship Him in the sense that He's their god, but rather that their devotion is such there is little obvious difference. Doesn't Fall of Cadia say the Black Templars weren't inspired in the same way as the Cadian forces because they didn't share their belief?

Either way they always hated any and all psykers, with very very few exceptions to that rule, and that is part of the retcon I dislike.

>youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY
>youtube.com/watch?v=E-WHW-QNswE
>youtube.com/watch?v=yx61xeDV_60
>youtube.com/watch?v=Pf9AaTV4-yw

Why settle for less that the greatest of them all?

If you're a traitor you'll be on the same side as Erebus.
Think about it.

The emperor's champion recieving a vision during prayer was from the 3rd ed vanilla codex I think. As for the FoC I just checked and while the other chapters weren't affected it singles out the Templars as being an exception who were inspired.

Cant really comment on Blood & Fire though as I haven't read that one.

You're right about the psykers one being a retcon though, while I can understand them tolerating navigators as they're kind of a nessesity, I always thought their refusal to fight alongside psykers other than GK was a cool, fluffy rule.

Come stand on the walls of Terra.
Resist. Hold. Endure.

If you're a loyalist you're on the same side as Leman Russ.

Thanks for the clarification. Might make a BT army again someday, the 3E codex is awesome.

Demonic possession is cool

Who's the shittiest Primarch?

I'm really not a fan unless for fluff since I can just take Mal if I want reavers. And personally I don't like reavers because if I want them to have bolters I have to screw around with the model with magnets because they have so many options.

no problem, good luck if you do!

Pert.

Lorgar
Not even cus he started the whole shit show, just because he is a whiny little bitch

Russ, obviously. I normally don't much care which space dad I'm shooting at, but his complete disregard for collateral damage combined with complete failure at capitalizing on the carnage means I take particular pleasure in crushing him. Wiping out the grand centres of learning and knowledge in Tizca was by far a greater crime than wiping out the 1KSons, in my opinion.

Don't bother with the Marines. Join the Mechanicum, or the Legio Cybernetica if it has to be a Legion, we come bearing boops, gorgeous models and an army list that can do pretty much anything they can save the White Scars' tricks. Also, completely and utterly expendable, and there's no shortage of joy in that.

Know no fear made Ultramarines pretty cool for me.

Shroud of Night made me like the Alpha Legion after the HH series reduced them to a shitty meme.

He was but no longer. He defeated Guilliman and he'd have killed him if Angron hadn't charged. He defeated Ka Bandha. He burned Ultramar and managed to save Angron from himself. He bitchslapped possessed Fulgrim and terrified him.
He's no longer a whiny bitch.

Didn't he defeat Anggrath?
That's even more of a feat

Yep, Scars did it for me. I liked Path of Heaven even more, though it does lose its cheeriness.

Fire Raptors are always great.

Yep, that user got the wrong thister. It was Angry-Roth.

Unironically the best Primarch

Your favourite.
In fact, everyone in this thread's favourite primarch is the worst.

Do you want worlds to bow their heads and sink to their knees at the very mention of your name? Do you want to raise humanity above it's base instincts and elevate them into a civilized race to be proud of? Do you want to forge your own path in a galaxy of tyrants, despots, oppressors and mad gods? Choose justice. Choose the VIII Legion.

Even if you are a rad wasted survivor, the blood of the legion can turn you into an 8 foot tall demigod with the most extensive changes out of any of the astartes.

You'll probably die during the change as it is the most dangerous out of the legions, but whatever.

Probably Dorn, but I'm hoping for Sang.

>Curze is at once my favorite and the worst
Makes a lot of sense honestly

Don't be a pansy, join the *real* elite forces: The Legio Custodes and the Legio Cybernetica.
Both play very interestingly, look amazing, have a small starting size with some of the most elite units around and can be built in a large number of ways.

How could you ever play any Legion that isn't the greatest? Horus was Warmaster because he was the best, and all the filthy plebs in here that will claim otherwise are gay jealous retards.

Bald primarchs are the worst

Alpharius will be dead last, and with rumors churning about on how Lion will be the next loayalist primarch for 40k I don't see him getting a HH model anytime soon. Rogal is irrelevant until Terra and barely anyone gives a shit about Khan.
People are pretty stoked for Sang, unsurprisingly, so my money is on him, especially considering just who the next FW book is about.

Uh oh, gay jealous retard detected

But user, Horus was super gay for Sang.

>Justice
>Skinning children

Second worst Legion confirmed.

The Cybernetica are probably WAY more numerous than the Marines, too, despite being way better individually. Truly second best Legio.

Best is obviously pic related, although I'm miffed that the only two options for Titans are "Full Chaos McMegaspike" and "Massive aquilas everywhere". I just want a Cog Mechanicum for my Renegade Mech, dammit.

Are you saying that you wouldn't be go gay for Sang?

My bad. Daemon names are not my cup of tea

Oh yeah, totally forgot that the Collegia Titanicus has technically also a legion structure.
It's a trinity of best legios, then: Custodes, Cybernetica and Titanicus.

You just need Malal and you can be a hipster quadrangle.

Is Custodes gold the new Ultramarine blue?

I miss when Custodes had more colour to them.

Because of that pic I basecoated a custodes landraider for 40k use red. It looked like garbage next tot the mostly-gold infantry.
Let it go, dude. I did the same.

Sometimes, you have to break a few egg to make an omelette. It's nothing personal.

Kid.

>jump pack custodes
>with lances *and* shields
Thank fuck this is concept art.

the first one?

Maybe you're just a shit painter?

Quite possible, but why are you posting a picture that supports my point?

Your objectively wrong point?

If I have to choose between a shitty looking gold&red army and a shitty looking nothing but gold army, I'll take the one that looks less shitty to me.

Those clash m8

Leman "Fuck the Wolves literaly" Russ

I suspect that there are more Mechanicum players than players of any one Legion, and Custodes are probably catching up pretty damn quickly. Personally I don't really like playing Marines because they're rather dull IMO, but I've seen some rather cool Marine armies with various tricks, so they make good opponents.

What armies do you prefer to beat upon, anons? Personally Reductor vs. Death Guard is always fun, just because of the sheer amount of war crimes flying around and how bloody it gets when close-quarters combat starts and chem-flamers, Irrad, grav and melta starts flying around. I basically take a 50% damage cut on my Irrad Engines, but they're still not bad.

The one that decided to worship the fucking chaos gods.
Fuck you Erebus

Leaving aside the awful dread and the 'I stopped caring' tacticals, the gold/black/red custodes clash pretty badly with the red/white/black vehicles.
Matter of taste, of course, but I think the color choice is pretty bad overall.

So why do Custodes have gold and red as their colours if they clash? Why do BA have dudes in golden armour next to dudes in red armour? Why are there so many things in the world coloured gold and red?

those look terrible.

Speaking as a custodes player, bullying melee legions, especially World Eaters, in melee is always fun. Doubly so if there's a primarchstar involved.

I bet if FW had painted Custodes vehicles red, everyone would be sucking their dick.

There is a non-insignifiant group of people that strongly dislike the custodes vehicles in the first place or find they don't match the custodes design, so chances are that people wouldn't give a shit in this case.

this level of petty butthurt is pathetic.

people disagree with you, get over it.

That's not me, user. People have the right to hate gold and red Custodes as much as I have disliking an all gold Custodes.

Primarchstar tears are joy distilled. There's six thousand of the damned things here, only DGbro and NLdude don't run them.
I'm fine with the IH player running them, since it fits with the IH theme and Ferrus isn't going to do shit otherwise, and the EC player keeps his small - Command Squad in a Raider.
The UM player runs nothing but pure boredom, though. 10 Suzies, Rowboat, Chaplain and FnP dude in a Spartan, mortars, Levi Dread and minimum troops.
I need to get some Droplites just to burn that thing.

I don't run Primarchs you fuck.

What? I never said anything about people here. I was just talking about the people at my store.

Ah, fair cop.

Anyways. Just got back from a 3000 point game against Iron Warriors with my Sons of Horus.
Lists
My Sons of Horus
Maloghurst
Chaplain with Jump pack and Axe.
49 Veterans in Rhinos
14 Reavers
2 Malcadors and 2 Lightnings

Him
Warsmith in Cataphractii with Power Fist
Centurion with Power Sword
30 Tacticool marines
15 Breachers
20 Havocs (10 auto and 10 las)
10 flamer support in a rhino
5 Tyrant Terminators
8 standard terminators
2 Leviathans

Came out with a significant win, he came in expecting me to charge the board, and bleed white on the way in. Instead I deployed en masse via outflank (only the Malcadors deployed on the field), and appeared on his sides, ripping horrific wounds in his formations. He fought hard but was basically sectioned off and devoured piece by piece.
I took pics, but the combination of shocking lighting in the venue, and my phone cams general shittiness non of the fucking things look right.

Men of the Match
Mine, Veteran Squad Aekeddon, who while being charged by 8 Cataphractii terminators, casually gunned down 5 with overwatch and cut the rest down.
His, either his Leviathan with Grav cannon. It made it all the way across to my Malcs, cornered them and raped them death with its drill hand, or his Breacher Sgt, who blew up a good third of my Reavers with a well placed breaching charge, and held his boys together for 5 rounds of combat against my Reavermob.

As an aside, I learned a couple of things, one a pair of Malcadors, in a friendly game are a touch overkill, and thier ability to fire thier top mount weapon and then turbo boost (or vice versa), I used that to drive my friend crazy. Basically operating the tanks like super heavy tau battle suits, popping out of cover, nailing something with battlecannons, the hopping behind other cover.
And my Reavers are just a joke. Expensive and tied up by breachers for fucking ages, doing sweet FA for premium cost. Those fucks are about to get dropped like a brick.

>reavers are a joke
No, really? Who would have thought?
More seriously, at least they aren't Rampagers, right?

Look man, when they got thier shit wrecked by Breachers, BREACHERS. Breachers that didn't outnumber them by the by... Something has gone spectacularly wrong.
This is fucking insane, that Reaver Squad and its leader were pushing 500 points. Nearly 1/6 of my army, and it just fucked about and did nothing.

>tfw phalanx warders

>Rampagers...
I'm so, SO sorry.
>Warders
Well I guess they can teleport and are hilarious if they are charged while being kitted with a million breacher charges.

Breachers are the quintessential tarpit, the kind of unit you avoid touching with your specialists. That's on you. (What were they armed with?)

Chainaxes, Jump packs and a chaplain. I agree it was on me, I got too focused on advancing on his havocs and lost sight of the threat on the flanks.

All well, I'm looking at more standard assault squad in its place now, maybe with an apothecary and a couple power axes.

Nightlord here, running two or more big blobs of assault marines is a legit thing, especially with some variety of massed veterans coming in off the side, even if your inferior veterans lack choom in great quantity

I make up for it with BS 5, sniper and storms of plasma.

CHOOOOOOOM

...

I am surprised you let me charge them to be fair, but I couldn't have a unit of jumpacks marauding as they pleased. Honestly the breachers were the only thing which really did there job (Fuck your Malcadors.) The Tyrants did absolutely nothing. The lascannons (my usual MVP) just couldn't do anything, and the auto cannons were next to useless.

I wish I'd have taken the Deredeo instead of the auto Havocs, not only to fuck with your planes, but to fuck up transports too.

The thing I'm salty about the most though is you knocking out the storm Leviathan's siege drill turn one, because when you charged it, it weren't doing shit for the rest of the game.

The dice betrayed me, the Imperium chewed us up and spat us out for the last time. Round two will be different. Mark my words.

- Forrix -

Look ditch digger, get back to readying your own mass graves and failing to do much worth a fuck in the siege of Terra.

I'm surprised a squad that big with chainaxes couldn't hack its way through. Add a couple of power fists next time?

Yeah, my power fist was on the chieftan, he got flash fried by the flamer support squad.

You have to admit it, I didn't fight like a bitch.

This roughly the same army you saw charge at, and beat a XIIth Red Butcher bus.

P.T.F.O

Always to the bitter end, whether you like it or not.

I won't pretend otherwise buddo. You just got the XVI appear from unexpected quarters and fight in a manner completely unorthodox from what you have encountered up until this point.
We both took lessons home from this I'd like to think.

Post a pic of your bitterboys if you haven't already.

He hasn't. I'll pester him to post them. The work hes done on his leviathans (both still wip) is sweet as fuck.

Wait, why are Terminator Bodyguard thunder hammers 15pts. when everything else costs the same as with regular terminators? Why would I ever buy thunder hammers for that cost, when I can have a non-Concussive equivalent in a power fist for 10pts. less or a vastly superior anti-tank weapon in the chainfist for 5pts. less?