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GW could have made traitor marine with an abacus. And it would be greatest thing ever. But, they did one step more and made skull abacus. How can loyalist eaven compete?
Adam Jenkins
Even then, bellboy can make a decent typhus conversion
Josiah Sanchez
Has anyone kitbashed admech kataphrons with Necron destroyers? I kinda want to get some necrons to toy around with because the infantry is awesome but I'm way more fond of skynet oldcrons than space Egypt newcrons. Was hoping to make destroyers more like pic related (still play with the appropriate rules though, just changing the cosmetics of the bottom)
Anthony Phillips
Loyalist on suicide watch, professionals claim death guard tallyman to blame.
Ayden Brooks
The Death Guard terminator kit is a duel kit that allows you to build Grave Wardens or Deathshroud.
In 40k Chaos Terminators just wear shity cobbled together mishmash plate. One of the pics we already have of a DG Termie he has a different pattern armour for each shoulder.
Camden Myers
He even fudges how many commit suicide.
Logan Rogers
should workout, the tops are just humans so necrons on the top should be fine. you want to make the necron itself less refined so it fits with the aesthetics of the bottom
Jaxon Sullivan
Xth for Guardbros are literally the most kino posters ITT. They actually play and paint, post, and improve on their work.
Caleb Diaz
You would have the most OP character. Not even the Black Templars are immune to him.
Christian Wood
Can you guys post some silly 40k greentext screenshots?
Also why did GW make Primaris marines and put them in a starter box set?
Aiden Moore
Awesome, thanks user. Will give it a whirl
Brandon Martin
user I agree but don't keep posting this every thread, there's a point where you're just sucking the guys dick and that's gay.
I wish RGG the best with his paintin'.
Austin Moore
How do u know dis?
Gabriel Morales
Or was it just different style pad? I mean, DI lord has domed pads on his Cataphractii and so do Custodes.
Evan Rodriguez
tallyman has fudged the number of alpharius' often.
Because they intend to squat manlets marines in a few years.
Henry Rodriguez
nice digits
Jaxson Long
This guy could go toe to toe with Magnus...and win...
Ryder Green
>READ THE FUCKING MANUAL? >BOY I WRITE THE FUCKING MANUAL
Jaxson Rodriguez
Soul Grinders, time to deploy en masse!
Ryan Garcia
In honor of tally man a death guard story.
Ethan Perez
The DI Lord of Contagion was explicitly said to have scavenged indomitus termie shoulder pads for his cataphractii suit because Chaos gear is scavenged and buckled together from whatever they can get their hands on.
And the other guy I'm talking about has two DIFFERENT shoulder pads, like one pattern on the left and a different one on the right.
Point is, armour pattern doesn't mean shit to 40k DG, so they could easily have a terminator dual-kit that has units which used to be different suits. They're just going to look like a mess of pus and tentacles and rusted plates regardless.
Daniel Gray
Congrats user, you just got a job at GW! For your employee benefit you get to choose a single model or unit to update to nu-GW with new rules. If it does well the rest of the model's range will get an update too. Quick, what's your choice?
Charles Cox
Guys talking about Abaddon's size should know this. Abaddon is said to be the same size as Horus. When Abaddon and Horus Reborn face to face they were identical in every aspect except armour and armaments.
Abaddon should get a new model that reflects that. I mean when Abaddon fought kharn, he towered over him and was overpowered him like some giant. Kharn confirmed manlet
Isaiah Reed
I could see that, but I think there's just no way they're gonna keep Abaddon at space marine size with the way things have been going with important characters. Archaon is a pretty obvious comparison but that's a universe where they can sell a giant model by putting a dude on a giant mount. I think the unfortunate truth is he'll either get killed off and replaced with someone else big (maybe Lorgar? He has a pretty good personal conflict with Emperor stand-in Guilliman and a potential claim to be the most Chaos Undividedy of the Chaos primarchs) or get a dreadnought sized model.
Luis Butler
Let me fudge some numbers
Aaron Hill
Black Templar Sword Brethren, just give Reivers a tabard and a power Zweihander and wrist-mounted bolters.
Andrew Robinson
Good. Magnus still has night terrors about this dude.
Elijah Jones
He still gotta paint them damn hands and clean up that gun. Better though, even though i play agains fucking grey hordes most the time and his original dudes wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
Nathaniel Torres
As I mainly play tyranids, and most of their range is already solid, I'll throw the guard players a bone and update their infantry with glorious Vostroyans.
Adam Morgan
Well, Abaddon refused becoming a Daemon Prince, but really, what's stopping the Chaos Gods from just turning him into one?
Christopher Young
You
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Also you can play Archaon without the mount. Archaon is like three or two times larger than an Stormcast who are supposed to be the same height as space marines sometimes taller.
Carter James
Shit & giggles
Landon Carter
Mortarion and the Death Guard codex will give chaos the points it needs to turn the battle of Konor.
Carson Rivera
Just got the new space marine codex because I'm a slowpoke.
Why the fuck did tech marines lose conversion beamers when they got them in the index?
Likewise why did dreadnoughts lose weapon options like autocannons which were also in the index?
Is GW just covertly removing options or did I miss an faq ?
Justin Allen
They can only corrupt and influence those who willingly give their souls to them
Brody Lewis
>we have 2 examples of marines putting on different shoulder pads >ergo, deathshourds and grave wardens were the same suit
Well, they better have 4" movement and 5+ Inv. save then.
>They're just going to look like a mess of pus and tentacles and rusted plates regardless.
I dunno, so far they've all looked like Cataphractii.
Easton Gray
Will power, Abaddon has literally being given enough blessings by the gods to be turned into a Demon Prince or a Spawn and he keeps denying them the ascension by sheer force of will.
Cameron Jenkins
You guys are all way overthinking this. Abaddon is gonna get cucked to lieutenant tier when they bring back Horus.
They didn't give Ahriman a fuckhuge model on a giant mount. They just updated him to modern standards, and then released fucking Magnus. Same deal will happen with Abby.
GW does not care that much about the old characters. 8e is Primarch Edition.
Ethan Carter
The new novel explains it. Willpower. The Chaos Gods are putting tremendous pressure on Abaddon's body, mind, and soul so that he would give in and become theirs. Abaddon endures but Khayon is really worried about him.
Brandon Davis
It does not make sense, but then Chaos lore is for edgy teenagers
Christian Sanchez
They better win at least one planet or this is going to be dreadfully dull.
Put up a fight you cucks.
Cameron Johnson
[citation needed]
Just so I can have a laugh.
Why would they? How useful have most daemon princes been at leading mortal armies. You have a general who doesn't even occupy the same plane of existence, let alone the same concept of time nor space. How is he going to make a good general?
Lincoln Hernandez
standard chaos space marines and Fallen can swap their bolter for a chain-sword for free or take a chain-sword in addition to their other gear for 1pt per model
Nathaniel Sanders
>when they bring back Horus. >this level of delusion.
Grayson James
GW doesn't put rules in anymore for models they don't currently sell. If you still have those old models or conversions lying around you can use the index entries.
Joshua Ortiz
Space Marines had their codex a month sooner. I'm not sure how powerful the Chaos and Death Guard codices will be but I'm betting they'll rely heavily on model sales for Konor points.
Jayden Roberts
If Sigmar is Thor, who's the rest of the pantheon?
Brody Foster
Because those don't have official models. You can use the index for legacy rules though.
Gavin Nguyen
But the whole point of the Black Legion is the rejection of Primarchs and specifically Horus. Horus has literally no hold over the Legion because it's not just the renamed Sons of Horus it's an entirely new Legion that formed after the official disbanding of the Sons by Abaddon.
Jacob Bailey
What doesn't make sense about it?
Jordan Miller
Has this ever been the case? Chaos was always an influence you couldn't just shake off, and if they wanted it, they'd just do a big fuck-you and fuck up whatever they wanted anyway
Well that sure sounds like some anime-tier mary-sueness.
Juan Nelson
It's happened before.
Jace Stewart
Rumourmongers are already talking about how the fags who run the Black Library HH series are gloating about how they're going to retcon the end of it when the last books come out to leave openings for Horus and Sanguinius to come back, because GW loves money and doesn't give a shit about autists precious outdated lore.
If you don't think every Chaos player will immediately run out and buy the new Horus figure when it comes out just like all the loyalists scrambled to get Guilliman you're a retard.
Adrian Carter
Does this mean that Abbadon's will > Chaos?
Bentley Reyes
>Why would they? How useful have most daemon princes been at leading mortal armies. You have a general who doesn't even occupy the same plane of existence, let alone the same concept of time nor space. How is he going to make a good general?
Actually, the Chaos Gods care not for the wars in real space. Their victory there is assured anyways as the walls of reality continue to crumble with each passing age. What the Chaos Gods care about is the Great Game of Chaos.
Abaddon is the greatest Chaos champion ever was and probably ever will be. Greater than even the primarchs. If any of the Chaos Gods can turn him to his side and bind him with daemonhood, then daemonic Abaddon will ensure the supremacy of the god in the Great Game.
Jayden Davis
>when they bring back Horus >mfw you actually believe this
Nathan Thomas
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Jonathan Smith
Do Night Lord's dicks shrivel up and retreat inside their bodies when they see a Chad Reiver bearing down on them?
Ian Thompson
Don't the Iron Warriors or someone wait for the "true emperor" Horus?
Xavier Barnes
>8e is Primarch Edition
Yess, more posthuman meat for the grinder. They've yet to make one I can't beat to death with an angry pack of electro-priests, although I suspect Mortarion will be that Primarch. Sure, I may lose a bunch, but it's satisfying as all hell when those things die. My favoured Lords of War are either a Knight or a Marauder Destroyer, but I can't find any autocannon bitz that don't take up loads of room and look ugly on the side of my Space Whale I'm making into one.
Ian Bennett
>implying a properly reborn Horus wouldn't break Abbadabadoo over his knee and the will of the black legion at the same time
Chase Bell
>spouting old lore like GW gives a shit They just pulled PRIMARIS SPESS MAREENS out of there ass with no fucks given, you think they care what the Black Legion lore says? They'll write something new to go with the new developments.
Chase Walker
The Codex is not being released until September, and Konor will be basically finished by then.
So in order for Morty to have any tangible effect on the outcome of Konor, he would have to be some seriously broken ass shit.
Nathaniel Turner
Te Black Legion series and other novels say that Horus's soul was erased from existence
James Hill
>Well that sure sounds like some anime-tier mary-sueness.
Maybe but thats been the case since like 4th edition at least and in general its how posessed marines keep their demons in check so they dont consume their souls.
Kevin Bell
>can only corrupt and influence those who willingly give their souls to them >willingly give their souls >willingly Nurgle must have one hell of PR team, because those Nurgle Zombies and Poxwalker sure happen rather easily.
Brayden Morgan
>as the walls of reality continue to crumble with each passing age
Gee, I wonder what could have facilitated that. Gee, I wonder what the point of Abaddon's Crimson Path was. Gee.
Gabriel Reyes
See It's happening whether we like it or not.
Gavin King
I dunno, at this point, after the Master Of Mankind novel, killing the fuck out of Horus is about the only thing left that the Emperor actually did right (eventually). I could definitely see ADB wanting to take his one and only remaining achievement away from him.
Grayson Foster
I can get behind the idea of supressing a daemons will with your own, but the Chaos Gods?
Nicholas Collins
I think they are more like the DC New Gods.
Sigmar is the Highfather, Nagash is Darksied, Archaon is the Antimonitor, etc.
Blake Flores
They can easily kill you and also take control of your body, but total dominion is only given when the user willingly gives their soul and submits to corruption.
Brandon Parker
He wouldn't, because that would mean having someone superior to abbie and ADB just can't have that
Matthew Miller
He has no shortage of attention.
Easton Reed
It's ending that soon?!
Man, that's some broken shit. Why would GW have a campaign between their blue posterboys and stinky bad guys that haven't even been released?
Ayden Gray
>demonhost are a thing Hell random demon possession happens without the psyker willing wanting to be daemon toy pussy.
Cooper Hall
Can I use a mixture of index entries and the codex then? That seems bizarre.
Mason Wood
There are still some factions of the old Sons of Horus who worship their Primarch but not the Iron Warriors.
Daniel Rivera
Did Nagash job recently?
Jose Evans
What part of retcons don't you understand. Let me explain to you how this process works because you seem to think the GW executives give a fuck about your continuity opinions.
>Hey these Primarchs are really selling, what are we putting out next? >Well, that was all the living ones >Okay, so bring back some of the dead ones >But the old novels written by guys that don't work for the company any more say their soul was erased from existence... >That's nice, call up Laurie, tell him to unerase their soul from existence, and also put our new PRIMARIS MARINES prominently in the new book, start doing the prototype mockups for this Horace guy
Aaron Reed
>waylandgames >next week Next year more likely
Camden Cruz
Thinking of picking up a contemptor dread for my Thousand Sons, would an ectoplasma cannon + hellflamer work well either fluffwise or in a general TS army?
Charles Ramirez
>Emperor kills Horus effortlessly >Abaddon stumbles in, somehow Drachnyen shows up and they tear the Emperor a new one >Emperor gets away anyway because something something JUST AS PLANNED and WE ALREADY WON LIKE A BILLION YEARS AGO MUAHAHAHA >Abaddon retreats because something something MUST LEAD THE LONG WAR AND NOT JUST TAKE TERRA NOW >Somehow Sanguinius dies Screenshot this.
Wyatt Roberts
Only if the index entries weren't updated in the codex. And you use the points values from the codex wherever they contradict each other.
Charles Foster
Abaddon accelerated the process. The walls of reality are only being held up by the Pylons. The pylon network was damaged and would get more damage as time proceeds and the power of Chaos grows.
Olly's storyline points at him stabbing Horus with the god killing dagger though.
Chase Foster
All the time.
Justin Foster
Bring Anti-tank dreads TSons don't struggle with infantry